Krauthammer on Florida: Accepting ObamaCare’s Medicaid expansion is an honorable option

posted at 4:41 pm on February 22, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via Mediaite. Before you watch, take five minutes to read Avik Roy and Grace-Marie Turner on what the further bloating of Medicaid will do to Virginia if Bob McDonnell accepts expansion. They’ve got 12 reasons to just say no but the graph at the top is cause enough to question Krauthammer’s assessment. It’s “honorable” to expect services in return for your tax dollars (just ask Detroit property owners), but what if those services are unsustainable? More from NRO:

Florida’s Republican governor, Rick Scott, has announced that his will become the eighth GOP-governed state to accept the Medicaid expansion written into the Affordable Care Act, rather than “having Floridians pay to fund this program in other states while denying health care to our citizens.” The expansion is often described as “voluntary,” but, as Scott’s remark suggests, no state can opt out of paying for it. The Supreme Court, sensing that Obamacare’s provision to expand Medicaid did violence to federalism, amended it to make it less coercive; but its rewritten version did not solve the problem. The “cooperative” arrangement between the states and the federal government still undermines the political accountability that federalism is supposed to serve. Federal lawmakers can take credit for treading gingerly by giving the states options while state lawmakers can say their hands are tied.

Governor Scott has nonetheless made the wrong choice: abetting a broke federal government in expanding a fraud-riddled, debt-fueled entitlement of questionable effectiveness. This decision is particularly painful given that Scott made his bones fighting Obamacare. Scott’s decision undercuts all those Republican governors who have opted not to bilk the taxpayers of other states. His claim that the expansion will be temporary, and rescinded if the feds renege on their funding promises, is hard to credit. Expanding Medicaid tends to be much easier than shrinking it, and even if the feds do not come through in full there will surely still be “free money” on the table in the future.

He’s fantastically unpopular in Florida and trails Smilin’ Charlie Crist by 14 points right now, if this PPP poll from last month is accurate, and can’t afford to be buried deeper under a “Rick Scott hates the poor” narrative. So he took the money. Honorable?

Oh, by the way: Florida’s Medicaid decision isn’t the worst ObamaCare-related news of the week. If you’re married and your spouse gets coverage through your employer, you might want to start planning now for contingencies. 2014 will be here before you know it.


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Is that like “honorable suicide”?

myiq2xu on February 22, 2013 at 4:46 PM

I don’t know…. We bet everything on Romney and he lost. Obamacare is here until this country collapses, so like gay marriage, its coming whether you like it or not.

El_Terrible on February 22, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Charles K.,

That squishing sound you hear, its you shoes, you peed your pants in fear of the GNN (Goebbles News Networks) saying mean things about you and not sending you RSVP’s to their cult meetings.

Goodbye,

Strange to have known so little of the real you.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 22, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Oh, by the way: Florida’s Medicaid decision isn’t the worst ObamaCare-related news of the week. If you’re married and your spouse gets coverage through your employer, you might want to start planning now for contingencies.

Great. Spouses losing medical coverage? That’s all we need is more uninsured wives dying of cancer because of heartless brutes like Mitt Romney….oh wait.

Doughboy on February 22, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Please listen to Mark Levin’s rebuttal to this on his radio show last night. It was an excellent point by point refutation. Dr. K you need to listen to this, too. BTW, Mr. Levin’s excellent commentary came at the very end of his radio show. Started at about 1:45.

The entire show last night was one his best, ever.

ncjetsfan on February 22, 2013 at 4:51 PM

There is no honor in selling out.
It might be politically wise.
If might be practical.
It might even get you re-elected.
But it will not be honorable.

LincolntheHun on February 22, 2013 at 4:51 PM

I think this pretty well puts to rest any notion that Krauthammer is in any way a conservative pundit. Accepting expansion and increased control from the feral government is in no way a conservative principle.

Krauthammer occasionally has some good analyses, but it seems more like a demonstration that even a blind hog finds an acorn every once in a while than any indication of a solid federalist, freedom based core.

AZfederalist on February 22, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Honorable my rear! But I like what Krauthammer had to say about E-Verify. We do need E-Verify, right? An E-Verify system by which employers must check the legal status of all their hires? So the illegals go home, and problem solved, country saved. After E-Verify is in place for 5 years at least, only then do we consider amnesty. Not until then. That is reasonable plan that voters in 2014 and beyond can agree with.

We got to realize that it’s going to be us against them. And we are never going to get them on our side. Never. Our best hope is to make “us” bigger, and us more unified and monolithic. Don’t try to appease them. Won’t work. Make us bigger.

anotherJoe on February 22, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Stupid. We lost on the mandate but won on the 10th amendment.Wake up you damn RINO’s!

jawkneemusic on February 22, 2013 at 4:52 PM

He stabbed the people who voted for him when he campaigned not to cave to ObamaCare.

Let the recall begin.

JPeterman on February 22, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Amnesty is even more honorable.

Wigglesworth on February 22, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Amnesty is even more honorable.

Wigglesworth on February 22, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Is that like “honorable suicide”?

myiq2xu on February 22, 2013 at 4:46 PM

El_Terrible on February 22, 2013 at 4:54 PM

…behind the orange man?…that is bad!

KOOLAID2 on February 22, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Today we must all be aware that political protocol takes precedence over constitutional procedure, just as evil takes precedence over good. However you say – WHAT THE – what does this mean… in relation to the tabulation whereby we must once again realize that the great reconquesta story is now being rehearsed before our very eyes, in the rise of Marco Rubio… indicating that only a two faced, I mean a bifaced, I mean a bilingual hombre can receive…the award for reconquesta, unlike Kenyan Hussein Obama whose reconquesta plans don’t drink water.

Amigos – friends – comrades, we are gathered here not only to accept on behalf of one man without any borders – one who has found that the world in itself seems to be in a time of the toad. This in itself is an edifice of the great glory that has gone beyond, and the intuitive feeling of the American people, based on the assumption that the intelligence not only as Mencken once said, “He who underestimates the American voter will not go broke.” This is merely a small indication of this vast throng gathered here to once again behold and to perceive that which has gone into the behind and to that which might go forward into the future…we’ve got to hurdle these borders. This is the main deterrent upon which we have gathered our strength and all the others who say, “What the hell did that get?” – We don’t know.

And as Miller once said in one of his great novels- what did he … that language is only necessary when bilingual communication is endangered. And you sit there bewildered, and Pinter who went further said “It is not the lack of communication, but fear of communication.” That’s what the damn thing is that we fear – communication – especially all the Spanish communication that’s even on a box of Wheaties now. Damn it! But we have no paranoia, and through all this Senator McCain has attained, and has created for himself serenity, and it is only his insanity that has kept him alive in his senility.

Alright, moving right along here in my brief remarks. We speak of the organ…of the orgasm…Who the hell wrote this !!!??? And the bi-partisan panel has determined to give the prize to Marco Rubio for his EARNESTY’S RAINBOW. Now EARNESTY’S RAINBOW is a token of this man’s genius…he told me so himself and repeatedly …that he could…in other words, have been more specific, but rather than allude to the mundane, he has come to the conclusion that brevity must be the importance of our nation’s shallow first world existence. God damn!

Ladies and Gentlemen. To the distinguished panel on the, on the dais, the time will come when a first world America will outlive its usefulness. Marx, either Groucho or Karl, I can’t remember which, maybe it was both, once said that America is the opiate of the people. I say that when America outlives its usefulness as a First World country and becomes a majority Spanish speaking nation, then opium…will be the opiate…Ahh that’s not a bad idea… we are going to need that and plenty of it, especially if the booze runs out …

All right…However, I want to thank Charles Krauthammer of the Chamberlain Press, who has made it possible for you people to be here this morning to enjoy the Reconquesta Citation – Marco Rubio’s . EARNESTY’S RAINBOW – a small contribution to a certain degree, since there are over seven billion people in the world today. 450 of them … million live in the United States and Mexico which is a very, very small amount compared to those who will be miserable and dying elsewhere…Well, I say that you will be on the road to new horizons, for we who live in a society where citizenship is a political commodity and a politician can become a TV personality, it’s not easy to conform if you have any morality…I, I, I said that myself many years ago…

But I do want to thank la Raza…I mean the DNC, the organization for the $1,000 in affirmative action scholarships they’ve given out…tonight they took in over $4,000,000 in contributions, but they do have expenses you know, and I think that I have another appointment. I would like to stay here, but for the sake of brevity I, I must leave. I do want to thank you and again I want to thank Mr.Charles Krauthammer. And I want to thank Marco Rubio – acting el Presidente of Mexamerico and also Mr. Obama – acting Pharaoh of the World – and also I want to thank Professor Irwin Corey and thank you.

RasThavas on February 22, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Please listen to Mark Levin’s rebuttal to this on his radio show last night. It was an excellent point by point refutation. Dr. K you need to listen to this, too. BTW, Mr. Levin’s excellent commentary came at the very end of his radio show. Started at about 1:45.

The entire show last night was one his best, ever.

ncjetsfan on February 22, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Agreed.

Krauthammer’s rationalization doesn’t make sense really…unless hoi poloi needs to be conditioned to capitulate cause y’know it’s the law of the land or something…

Honorable…my patootie!

10th Amendment Dr. Krauthammer…

workingclass artist on February 22, 2013 at 5:01 PM

Oh, by the way: Florida’s Medicaid decision isn’t the worst ObamaCare-related news of the week. If you’re married and your spouse gets coverage through your employer,

I’m a State of Texas employee….praying they do not drop our coverage.

maables on February 22, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Accepting ObamaCare’s Medicaid expansion is an honorable option

Honorable? Uh no – - – it is an act of TREASON.

Anyone who helps obama implement his destructive agenda is a TRAITOR. Whether it’s Scott helping to pave the way for obamacare, or Rubio pushing obama’s amnesty plan – or anyone who sides with obama on anything – TREASON is TREASON.

Pork-Chop on February 22, 2013 at 5:04 PM

I get what Dr. K is saying. It’s the same logic used by governors opposed to Porkulus who accepted at least some of the funds from that bill. If your state’s taxpayers are sending money to Uncle Sam who in turn sends it back out to the states, it does seem like a disservice to not secure some of that money for your own people. The problem is long-term you’re committing your state and its citizens to massive new taxes to cover the ever-expanding Medicaid program that will have a larger and larger share picked up by the states who enrolled. And don’t tell me that Rick Scott doesn’t know damn well what he’s doing here. He probably figures though that he’ll be out of office by the time the sh-t really hits the fan(much like the morons running the show in DC).

Doughboy on February 22, 2013 at 5:04 PM

*facepalm*

Midas on February 22, 2013 at 5:06 PM

Rubio pushing obama’s amnesty plan – or anyone who sides with obama on anything – TREASON is TREASON.

Pork-Chop on February 22, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Rubio? But he’s so cute.

VorDaj on February 22, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Yeah, the Nazi’s told the Jews it was honorable to get in the rail cars and go to the work camps.

redguy on February 22, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Krazy krauthammer: the ONLY person in DC who caves to the d-cRAT socialists more than boehner, mcconnelll and all the other Senate RINOS.

TeaPartyNation on February 22, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Krauthammer makes less sense than Professor Irwin Corey, much less sense.

VorDaj on February 22, 2013 at 5:09 PM

OT, but priceless…

affenhauer on February 22, 2013 at 5:10 PM

E-verify will help law-abiding businesses avoid hiring illegal aliens, but it won’t stop the millions of illegal aliens that work under the table.

Wigglesworth on February 22, 2013 at 5:11 PM

And don’t tell me that Rick Scott doesn’t know damn well what he’s doing here. He probably figures though that he’ll be out of office by the time the sh-t really hits the fan(much like the morons running the show in DC).

Doughboy on February 22, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Oh yeah, Scott is telegraphing that he is a RINO now.
He wants to be able to be “liked” by the liberal reporters and
make glowing TV spots on how humane he is……

Forget the fact that more bums will be attached to Florida for the “free” insurance.

redguy on February 22, 2013 at 5:12 PM

” John Davidson, health care policy analyst at the conservative Texas Public Policy Foundation in Austin, says he hopes Perry and other republican governors will not follow Scott’s example.

“It’s unfortunate that Gov. Scott caved in to federal pressure to expand Medicaid and I think it’s more important than ever for Gov. Perry and the other Republican governors who have so far rejected Medicaid expansion to stand firm.”

Davidson says expanding Medicaid would destabilize the program in the long run.

What’s clear is that at this point Perry has no intention of changing his position. In a statement, Perry’s spokeswoman Allison Castle says it would be irresponsible to dump more taxpayer dollars into a broken system. While Perry has the ultimate veto power, it is up to the state Legislature to vote on the Medicaid expansion…”

http://app1.kuhf.org/articles/1361469200-Will-Rick-Scotts-Reversal-On-Medicare-Expansion-Influence-Perry.html

workingclass artist on February 22, 2013 at 5:15 PM

I’d rather just Adopt-A-Grandpa …

Jeddite on February 22, 2013 at 5:16 PM

E-verify will help law-abiding businesses avoid hiring illegal aliens, but it won’t stop the millions of illegal aliens that work under the table.

Wigglesworth on February 22, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Yes, it’s much cheaper to pay someone $50 a day to do stuff then to “hire” them.
The government encourages this by having a minimum wage, payroll taxes, OSHA, USDA,
Dept. of Labor, and now ObamaCare……

You let more illegals stay and it will get much worse…..more unemployment.
A growing black market and soon the government will loose control and
resort to martial law for the good of the people…..

redguy on February 22, 2013 at 5:16 PM

If you’re married and your spouse gets coverage through your employer, you might want to start planning now for contingencies. 2014 will be here before you know it.

So let me get this straight. My 23 year-old daughter can stay on the plan till she is 26 but I could get the axe as her mother?

msmveritas on February 22, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Glad we have opinionators like Krauthammer, Noonan and Kristol to keep us honed.///////////////

DanMan on February 22, 2013 at 5:18 PM

This is all rather “ironic” in that ObamaCare, when fully implemented, will probably deny someone in Krauthmmer’s medical/physical condition any medical treatment bar some goodbye pills.

VorDaj on February 22, 2013 at 5:21 PM

Surrender to the Germans would have been honorable.

HitNRun on February 22, 2013 at 5:33 PM

FOX News? LOL

Mr. Arrogant on February 22, 2013 at 5:40 PM

E-verify will help law-abiding businesses avoid hiring illegal aliens, but it won’t stop the millions of illegal aliens that work under the table.

Wigglesworth on February 22, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Yes, except you want teeth in the program, strong disincentives or punishments to those that hire illegals, for business or at home.

anotherJoe on February 22, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Surrender to the Germans would have been honorable.

HitNRun on February 22, 2013 at 5:33 PM

The Loyalists had their pragmatic argument against taking on the British as well….cause there was no way a motley crew of colonial farmers could hope to win against the Crown…

workingclass artist on February 22, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Rubio? But he’s so cute.

VorDaj on February 22, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Yes. He almost looks like a baby. A trustworthy look, but he’s very green, very inexperienced, and if I’m not mistaken the only reason he’s vaulted on to the scene as far as being a presidential contender is that he’s Hispanic. We’ve got to realize that that can’t be our selection criterion. We aren’t going to win by being more like them. It will just make us the laughing stock, and when we lose, we’ll really feel bad, we kowtowed to them, and lost anyway.

If Rubio can stand on his own, without the affirmative action assist, that’s one thing, but I don’t think he can. On the issues, his neocon tendencies and this amnesty thing is not going to endear him to today’s conservative voters.

anotherJoe on February 22, 2013 at 5:56 PM

I’m a State of Texas employee….praying they do not drop our coverage.

maables on February 22, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Not trying to be snarky or anything here, but if you are relying on your employer (which in your case is the government) to provide you with coverage, how is that different than socialized healthcare?

Seems like the first step to a rational healthcare system is decoupling coverage from employment status.

can_con on February 22, 2013 at 6:02 PM

Why aren’t more people freaking out about ObamaCare? The news just keeps getting worse and worse! Between the health insurance tax that’s supposed to be higher than the penalties, this new stuff about spouses getting dropped, and the stories about families having to pay $20K a year for their insurance, this is a nightmare!

My goodness! Even if I can afford to pay for all these new taxes and these insane premiums, deductibles and co-pays, the days of being able to actually save money will be over for some of us. I’ll be paycheck to paycheck again after years of being able to put a little aside every week.

How can this be happening so easily?

Kensington on February 22, 2013 at 6:06 PM

So let me get this straight. My 23 year-old daughter can stay on the plan till she is 26 but I could get the axe as her mother?

msmveritas on February 22, 2013 at 5:16 PM

She can stay on the plan, but that doesn’t mean you’ll be able to afford to keep her on the plan.

It’s a catastrophe.

Kensington on February 22, 2013 at 6:08 PM

But I like what Krauthammer had to say about E-Verify. We do need E-Verify, right? An E-Verify system by which employers must check the legal status of all their hires? So the illegals go home, and problem solved, country saved. After E-Verify is in place for 5 years at least, only then do we consider amnesty. Not until then. That is reasonable plan that voters in 2014 and beyond can agree with.

anotherJoe

Yeah, he’s already caved on that one too.

I don’t know…. We bet everything on Romney and he lost. Obamacare is here until this country collapses, so like gay marriage, its coming whether you like it or not.

El_Terrible

That’s why it was important for Scott and those 6 other GOP governors to opt out. The more states that opt out, the less chance Obamacare has of surviving.

xblade on February 22, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Rubio? But he’s so cute.

VorDaj on February 22, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Yes. I was waiting for his momma to come to his aid during his rebuttal- with his Binky to wipe away some of the stress on his mouth.

Mr. Arrogant on February 22, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Doughboy on February 22, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Good comment. Was wondering if others listened to everything Krauthammer had to say. He even ended his statement saying that it was a bad law and should be gone.

For Pete’s sake, the guy IS a doctor, and in his condition, he lives and breathes the impacts of health care everyday. I am pretty sure he is not just throwing out his opinions on a whim, or after reading some polls or some blog postings.

Is he a true con? Don’t know, don’t care. Gotta respect the hammer.

can_con on February 22, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Krauthammer worked for Carter, Mondale and supported Mitt Romneycare. His only problem with Obamacare seems to be that the D’s get credit instead of the R’s. If Romney had been POTUS the past four years and signed Obamacare, called National Romneycare instead, Rove-Republicans like Krauthammer would be the biggest cheerleaders.

FloatingRock on February 22, 2013 at 6:21 PM

Krauty…..no thanks.

PappyD61 on February 22, 2013 at 6:26 PM

Dr K, was one of the first if the GOP media elites to shoot down Sarah Palin before we little people could get to decide. I’m quite sick of this RINO Guru leading peoples minds astray. He gets but one vote. Intelligence is not wisdom, and bright as he is, he certainly wouldn’t win my vote if he had the courage to run for office and put his thinking up to the masses.!

Don L on February 22, 2013 at 9:36 PM

The governor should have stayed with the economic realities and ignored people like DC Krauthammer because the minute you start hearing moralistic phrases like “honorable”, you know he’s already in the heady world of politics and left far behind the economic realities of implementing the unimplementable Obamacare.

No state needs to participate in the destruction of their economy.

virgo on February 24, 2013 at 1:23 PM