Can Hillary turn Texas blue?

posted at 1:21 pm on February 22, 2013 by Allahpundit

Look on the bright side: She might not run. In which case we won’t have to worry about Texas imposing a Democratic stranglehold on the White House for the foreseeable future until, oh, 2024 or so.

Or maybe 2020? Much depends on the time frame for that path to citizenship that Schumer, McCain, Rubio, et al. are cooking up.

While the knee-jerk reaction among many Republicans would be to dismiss the idea that the state could be competitive in 2016 — just four years after Mitt Romney carried it by 16 points over President Obama — Texas GOP Chairman Steve Munisteri is in no mood to sneer.

In an interview with RCP, Munisteri said that he has long taken seriously the possibility that Texas could become a battleground as early as 2016, particularly if Clinton becomes the Democratic standard-bearer.

“If she’s the nominee, I would say that this is a ‘lean Republican’ state but not a ‘solid Republican’ state,” he said. “I don’t know anyone nationally who’s scoffing at this. The national party leadership is aware and tells me they’re taking it seriously.”

Munisteri said that he has had recent discussions with Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus about the need to prepare for a significant change in the political dynamic here, noting that the need will likely become even more pressing in the next decade. That’s when Texas is expected to see its minority population rise more sharply — as it adds as many as four additional electoral votes to make it an even shinier target for Democrats than it already is.

Texas had 38 electoral votes last year, second only to California and equal to the EVs of Ohio and Pennsylvania combined. If RCP is right about there being four more EVs on tap by the end of the decade, Texas’s 42 would match the sum of Florida and Virginia. Assuming California and New York hold steady at their current totals, winning those two plus Texas with 42 would start Democrats off with 126 electoral votes, just shy of halfway to the 270 needed to win the White House with plenty of reliably blue northeastern states still to be counted. If that doesn’t put in perspective for you how important it is for the GOP to hold the Lone Star, chew on this: After Texas, the state that delivered the most electoral votes to Romney last year was Georgia with … 16. Obama won seven states with 16 or more EVs. Iceberg, right ahead.

More from the Times:

Democrats are hopeful that the immovable object — the overwhelmingly male, conservative Republican power structure — is about to meet the unstoppable force: demography. Texas is home to 9.5 million Hispanics, about 38 percent of the population, just seven points behind the non-Hispanic white population. In 2020, Hispanics will begin to surpass the white population and will outright dwarf it in 2030…

But the biggest problem is voter participation. Only about half of eligible Hispanic voters show up nationwide; this edged up slightly in 2012 to 53 percent. In Texas, just 4.1 million Hispanics are registered to vote, and only about half of them make it to the voting booth…

[Improving Latino turnout] requires ground troops, voter education and turnout efforts over a multicycle campaign. It also requires that Democrats stop assuming they’re going to lose. “If we start treating this as a purple state,” said Matt Glazer of the activist group Progress Texas, “we would be one that much sooner.”

Yeah, what’s most alarming about all this isn’t Hillary’s star power or demographic nuances, it’s that Democrats haven’t really even been trying in Texas recently. There was no reason to; defeat was a fait accompli, so money and manpower were best applied in other states. That won’t be true for much longer. In fact, one of the more amazing details in the RCP and NYT pieces is that Rick Perry only pulled 39 percent of the Latino vote in 2010. That’s exceptionally good by Republican standards, but Perry’s not a standard Republican. He was a two-term incumbent at the time; he presided over jobs growth even as the rest of the country was staggering from the aftereffects of the recession; and he was, as many prominent Republicans in Texas are, more moderate on immigration policy than the GOP nationally. (Which hurt him in the presidential primary debates, natch.) He ended up winning the election with nearly 55 percent of the vote. And yet he still couldn’t crack 40 percent among Latinos. Imagine what Republican numbers will look like once OFA or whatever its successor is gets serious about organizing and turning out Latino voters.

As for Hillary, here’s the PPP poll from last month that has 2016 strategists wringing their hands. Rubio fares best against her but even he’s trailing by a point at the moment (that’ll change, needless to say, as his name recognition rises to rival hers). A Hillary run is bad news for every Republican, I think, except for Rubio, for whom it’s mixed news: She’s the most formidable potential candidate on the Democratic side by light years, but precisely because she performs so well with Latino voters, there’ll be added pressure on the Republican side to try to counter that by nominating Rubio. Will it work? Well, per the NYT piece, Ted Cruz apparently got fewer Latino votes last year than John Cornyn did in 2008. The author theorizes that that’s because he’s of Cuban ancestry whereas most of Texas’s Latino population is Mexican; Rubio’s of Cuban ancestry too, so if it’s a barrier for Cruz it might be a barrier for him. Then again, it could be that the reason Cruz fared more poorly with Latinos is because he ran further to the right than Cornyn did and Latinos are, after all, mostly Democrats. Rubio would run a bit further to the center as a presidential nominee so maybe that would close the gap.

Exit question: Second look at the National Popular Vote movement? (Exit answer: No.)


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Can Hillary turn Texas Blue?

No.

Next question.

Wino on February 22, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Dude, she can’t even make diplomatic locations have security.

Oil Can on February 22, 2013 at 1:24 PM

What are her “qualifications”?

Del Dolemonte on February 22, 2013 at 1:24 PM

No.

Unless the GOP passes amnesty…then yes.

sharrukin on February 22, 2013 at 1:26 PM

I fully expect The Unmade Bed to run, and win, in 2016.

That’s how far America has fallen. Obama was the door to American Marxism – The Unmade Bed will kick the door open.

I have no hope for my country.

I truly don’t.

OhEssYouCowboys on February 22, 2013 at 1:26 PM

Hmmm… How can we begin to build Hillary back up for 2016? I know! Let’s write a puff piece about her and something seemingly impossible and get some Republicans to comment in the affirmative! How many Republicans will we have to interview to find two who will give us the answer we want? At this point what difference does it make? Let’s do it!

stvnscott on February 22, 2013 at 1:27 PM

She’ll be tough to beat regardless of who runs. Might need to get used to the political wilderness for the forseeable future…

As an aside, it’d be helpful if the GOP really focused on making inroads in CA, NY, etc. As the libs ruin those states and move to others to ruin (i.e. CO), maybe there’s hope for a GOP resurgence elsewhere.

changer1701 on February 22, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Hot Air doing whatever it takes to lay the psychological groundwork for getting the Democrat elected. As usual.

crosspatch on February 22, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Oh, what difference does it make?

With a background of four coffins.

Doubtful.

kim roy on February 22, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Ummmm….NO!

workingclass artist on February 22, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Can we please stop with this fear mongering? Yes.

And Ted Cruz got less because he is running to the right of Rubio and being obnoxious about it.

Illinidiva on February 22, 2013 at 1:28 PM

300,000,000 people in America and Hillary is the best democrats can do? Pathetic.

jawkneemusic on February 22, 2013 at 1:28 PM

OH dear God please NO.

If TX goes blue there would be less than a handful of states like ours? If we can keep all the libs getting a foothold in a majority in Austin, we might be ok?

The hispanics will usually vote for d’s because of the bho(santa) thing and giving amnesty will not make much difference in getting them to vote r?
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letget on February 22, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Hot Air doing whatever it takes to lay the psychological groundwork for getting the Democrat elected. As usual.

crosspatch on February 22, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Also trying to get clicks. Traffic to HotAir has been down a lot since last year.

sentinelrules on February 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM

I’ll never understand why people think Hillary is some sort of political juggernaut.

tom on February 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Texas will go blue soon. Austin is in the heart of Texas and it is, next to San Francisco, the most liberal city in the world.

Once Texas goes blue, the GOP can never win an election again. Mathematically impossible.

keep the change on February 22, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Hot Air doing whatever it takes to lay the psychological groundwork for getting the Democrat elected. As usual.

You’re right, I’m sorry. Honest assessment is unhelpful to the cause.

We will DESTROY HILLARY. Prepare for final victory.

Allahpundit on February 22, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Also can we please stop with doom saying about 2016? It is four years away.

Illinidiva on February 22, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Hellary can turn half Texas blue. I mean, the male half. She just needs to undress.

Archivarix on February 22, 2013 at 1:30 PM

In 2016, will Texas be as blue as Hillary’s varicose veins, or as red as her stewbum eyes?

Pork-Chop on February 22, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Assuming California and New York hold steady at their current totals

That’s an assumption that likely won’t prove to be true.

Mr. D on February 22, 2013 at 1:31 PM

(WP doing his best Dick Morris impersonation)

Hey guys, she’s NOT running! She didn’t fall down a while ago. she had a stroke! They’re trying their best to hide it! She’s an aneurism away from turning into a drooler.

In 2016, she’ll be in a wheel chair, gumming her Zwieback and watching Opra re-runs on TV.

(Queue rogerb and his magic ctrl-c, ctrlv!)

The War Planner on February 22, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Hillary Clinton is to Texans what Sarah Palin is to New Yorkers

This is nothing more than Fantasy Island speculation by Liberals who are desperate…Because they have wrecked the economy and they own it.

“Bring It!…” – Gov. Rick Perry in response to Texas turning blue.

workingclass artist on February 22, 2013 at 1:32 PM

We will DESTROY HILLARY. Prepare for final victory.

Allahpundit on February 22, 2013 at 1:30 PM

..I sense a pegged sarc meter, Sarge!

The War Planner on February 22, 2013 at 1:33 PM

300,000,000 people in America and Jeb Bush is the best Republicans can do? Pathetic.

jawkneemusic on February 22, 2013 at 1:28 PM

ChunkyLover on February 22, 2013 at 1:33 PM

At this point, What does it matter?

Bevan on February 22, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Continually amazed that a major U.S. political party officially imports illegal aliens to dilute the vote of actual citizens. This is actually happening.

JeremiahJohnson on February 22, 2013 at 1:34 PM

I think she will stroke out before 2016.

Blake on February 22, 2013 at 1:34 PM

In fact, one of the more amazing details in the RCP and NYT pieces is that Rick Perry only pulled 39 percent of the Latino vote in 2010. That’s exceptionally good by Republican standards, but Perry’s not a standard Republican. He was a two-term incumbent at the time; he presided over jobs growth even as the rest of the country was staggering from the aftereffects of the recession

Since 2002, Rick Perry has never been an extremely popular governor.

He under-performs, winning only 39% of the vote in 2006.

sentinelrules on February 22, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Can Hillary turn Texas blue?

If by blue you mean depressed then I would say yes..along with most of the rest of the country.

HotAirian on February 22, 2013 at 1:34 PM

King Obama might have a say on this.

fogw on February 22, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Allah… There is a difference between honest assessment and basically declaring that the Republicans will never win another election, which is what I think is being hinted at. If Hillary is going to win in 2016, then it makes no sense for me to vote in the next elections. Heck, due to mographic changes it makes no sense for me to vote again.

Illinidiva on February 22, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Also trying to get clicks. Traffic to HotAir has been down a lot since last year.

sentinelrules on February 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Why does no one ever claim that a post they agree with is designed to “get clicks”? I’ve never understood that. I post videos all the time of liberals doing or saying stupid things and know full well before I post that readers will react strongly favorably to them, but no one ever says in the comments to those, “Nice! Smart way to get clicks.”

If you disagree with the analysis in the post, just explain why. Remember, you’ve got the chair of the Texas Republican Party on record here saying he’s a little worried about a Hillary run. What clicks is he trying to get?

Allahpundit on February 22, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Illegal Amigos will turn Texas blue within 20 years unless the state secedes or the borders get sealed…

wildcat72 on February 22, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Hot Air doing whatever it takes to lay the psychological groundwork for getting the Democrat elected. As usual.

You’re right, I’m sorry. Honest assessment is unhelpful to the cause.

We will DESTROY HILLARY. Prepare for final victory.

Allahpundit on February 22, 2013 at 1:30 PM

AP, letting the dumber commentors get to you again? Might I suggest that perhaps a arm wrestling match with your cat for free access to the beer fridge is in order??? again… o_O

SWalker on February 22, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Texas? Really? Ask again in 10 years.

Othniel on February 22, 2013 at 1:36 PM

No…

sandee on February 22, 2013 at 1:36 PM

We will DESTROY HILLARY. Prepare for final victory.

Allahpundit on February 22, 2013 at 1:30 PM

The correct statement would be “we CAN destroy Hillary”. She WILL win if a Republican runs on issues, but she is probably the only person with more personal baggage than Gingrich. Unleash weapon-grade ridicule against her. Turn her into the nation’s laughing stock. Make people giggle when hearing her name, and she won’t even bother to run for nomination.

Archivarix on February 22, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Allahpundit on February 22, 2013 at 1:30 PM

AP, letting the dumber commentors get to you again? Might I suggest that perhaps a arm wrestling match with your cat for free access to the beer fridge is in order??? again… o_O

SWalker on February 22, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Oh… and this time… I suggest you cheat… ;p

SWalker on February 22, 2013 at 1:36 PM

She sure can turn the air over Texas blue. Woman has the vocabulary of a stevedore.

totherightofthem on February 22, 2013 at 1:37 PM

There are far too many factors here for this kind of media driven hand wringing, except it drives up views and posts.
Will the percentage of Hispanics continue to rise in Texas…maybe
Will Hispanics vote more for a Liberal or a Catholic…Unknown
Will the media be as soft with Hillary as they were with Obama …perhaps
Who will the Republican nominee be and how will they connect at the grassroots level…Dunno
Will Karl Rove back or bash the nominee and how will that impact the election…could be
.
Like I said waaaay too many factors to start getting worried about.
Time to build the Republican base and ignore the media attention hoes screaming “Donate to me and I’ll make the bad people go away.”

LincolntheHun on February 22, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Pardon my ignorance, but just who is “The Unmade Bed”?

Another Drew on February 22, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Why does no one ever claim that a post they agree with is designed to “get clicks”? I’ve never understood that.
Allahpundit on February 22, 2013 at 1:35 PM

You know, some of us actually do say that on occasion, some of us do understand that your job is to stimulate conversation and generate positive traffic. Some of us even actually appreciate your efforts. Well,maybe not all of us, but some of us do.

SWalker on February 22, 2013 at 1:39 PM

If you disagree with the analysis in the post, just explain why. Remember, you’ve got the chair of the Texas Republican Party on record here saying he’s a little worried about a Hillary run. What clicks is he trying to get?

Allahpundit on February 22, 2013 at 1:35 PM

I would say he’s rabble rousing during a legislative session…but that’s just my observation as a native Texan during the usual Cowboy Political season.

workingclass artist on February 22, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Demographics and lack of personal responsibility is killing us all. open ‘immigration’ from marxist states, plus explosive birth rates among the government dependent spell doom.

kerncon on February 22, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Bull crap.

gophergirl on February 22, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Why does no one ever claim that a post they agree with is designed to “get clicks”? I’ve never understood that. I post videos all the time of liberals doing or saying stupid things and know full well before I post that readers will react strongly favorably to them, but no one ever says in the comments to those, “Nice! Smart way to get clicks.”

If you disagree with the analysis in the post, just explain why. Remember, you’ve got the chair of the Texas Republican Party on record here saying he’s a little worried about a Hillary run. What clicks is he trying to get?

Allahpundit on February 22, 2013 at 1:35 PM

But your standard mojo is to be “doom and gloom.” These threads generate lots of comments, so that’s the basis for my assumption.

Besides, once the GOP gives Amnesty for 11 million illegal aliens, we can talk to Hispanics about spending which will keep Texas Red in 2016 and for forever, and ever, and ever, and ever, and ever….

sentinelrules on February 22, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Can Hillary turn Texas blue?

…their nuts…maybe!

KOOLAID2 on February 22, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Hillary as a presidential candidate is kinda like marriage. The idea of marriage is often better than the real thing. Lol. Jokes aside I don’t think Hillary would make that great of a candidate.

terryannonline on February 22, 2013 at 1:42 PM

If you disagree with the analysis in the post, just explain why.

I’m from Texas.

Nuff said.

Wino on February 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Allahpundit on February 22, 2013 at 1:35 PM

But your standard mojo is to be “doom and gloom.” These threads generate lots of comments, so that’s the basis for my assumption.

Besides, once the GOP gives Amnesty for 11 million illegal aliens, we can talk to Hispanics about spending which will keep Texas Red in 2016 and for forever, and ever, and ever, and ever, and ever….

sentinelrules on February 22, 2013 at 1:41 PM

No, his standard mojo is not “Gloom and doom” if anything it is Caveat emptor.

SWalker on February 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Yeah, what’s most alarming about all this isn’t Hillary’s star power or demographic nuances, it’s that Democrats haven’t really even been trying in Texas recently.

Yes they have, i live in Texas and there’s been a huge push by Texas dems since Bush 2 won the WH. These days you see Texas Democrat bumper stickers everywhere, that was the campaign started after Bush 2 won the WH. Local lib blogs here in Texas are constantly doing posts about turning Texas blue and let’s not kid ourselves, all the major cities are dem strongholds now including Dallas which was the last holdout.

While a lot of it is dems moving from blue states, illegals account for just as much of the cities now being dark blue. I’ve been warning illegal immigrant supporters for years that it’s only a matter of time before the votes in the blue cities in Texas overwhelm the votes in red rural areas.

clearbluesky on February 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Hillary as a presidential candidate is kinda like marriage. The idea of marriage is often better than the real thing. Lol. Jokes aside I don’t think Hillary would make that great of a candidate.

terryannonline on February 22, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Think of her in four years. I can’t see the youth of America rallying to support her. They are very shallow people. Obama was young and black and “hip” – she’s none of those things.

gophergirl on February 22, 2013 at 1:44 PM

She and Bill need pick their spot in Seychelles because what matters is one helluva big IF this nation makes it through Obama’s last term.

Speakup on February 22, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Hot Air doing whatever it takes to lay the psychological groundwork for getting the Democrat elected. As usual.

You’re right, I’m sorry. Honest assessment is unhelpful to the cause.

We will DESTROY HILLARY. Prepare for final victory.

Allahpundit on February 22, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Anybody who ignores the very real possibility of Texas becoming going dem is whistling past the graveyard.

clearbluesky on February 22, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Allahpundit on February 22, 2013 at 1:35 PM

.
You are just posting what you think are relevant articles.
This is big media trying to stir up the frenzy, and ignore real issues, like which Kardashian is pregnant now and by whom.
Oh and the Fast and Furious stuff, and Benghazi, and secret email accounts in the EPA, and A Senator hooking up with underage prostitutes, and a Secretary of Defense nominee who received money from Iranian front groups, and Squirrel!
.
You are just reposting what someone else has written along with pity summations for our edification.
No evil intent
.
Of course, it is fun to instigate.

LincolntheHun on February 22, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Remember, you’ve got the chair of the Texas Republican Party on record here saying he’s a little worried about a Hillary run.

I think it’s a little too anxious, I would say to believe that. Why this sudden post AP? I doubt Texas will turn blue and it’s ludicrous to think that Hillary’s numbers will stay the same if she runs. They’ll go down. The reason she is high is because she hasnt been touched while being “above it all”. My take.

Flapjackmaka on February 22, 2013 at 1:46 PM

A Texas Latina here. Rubio 2016 baby!

terryannonline on February 22, 2013 at 1:47 PM

You also have to consider her age. She looks terrible and America is shallow beyond belief. I dont think Texas will go blue, especially with Rubio at the top but Hillary could pose problems in places like Ohio and Virginia. We get Florida if we have Rubio at least and we can build off last years performance.

Flapjackmaka on February 22, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Pardon my ignorance, but just who is “The Unmade Bed”?

Another Drew on February 22, 2013 at 1:39 PM

I think that’s Shrillary. Kind of a good description.

msupertas on February 22, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Only thing I want to see turn blue is Hillary’s face when her health issues finally catch up with her!

pilamaye on February 22, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Hillary: proof positive that Democrats have finally adopted the Republican’s failed policy of “next in line”.

I’m so excited. Hillary is Democrat’s answer to Mitt, McCain, and Bob Dole.

applebutter on February 22, 2013 at 1:53 PM

Why did you post a “Hillary leading in every poll ever” now AP? There really isnt anything new on that front. I think her numbers will be cut but at least 1/3-1/4 if she does run simply because she has to take positions

Flapjackmaka on February 22, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Uh, hell no. I live in the Lone Star State and let me go on record right now in predicting that if Hillary is the nominee in 2016, she won’t even bother campaigning here in the general election. As arrogant as Obama is, he never set foot here in 2012 aside from some Austin-based fundraisers.

Let’s put it this way. The day the Dems come close to turning Texas blue is when we’ve long since lost this country to fiscal insolvency and societal chaos.

Doughboy on February 22, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Dude, she can’t even make diplomatic locations have security.

Oil Can on February 22, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Irrelevant! Presidential politics aren’t about competency or the welfare of the country.

a capella on February 22, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Alright, let me try to explain something about the 2012 presidential election.

I apologize for the brief explanation below.

129,071,197 million people voted, where Whites accounted for 72% according to the Exit Poll, which means 92,937,018 Whites voted.

Uh oh, but look at the 2008 presidential election, 131,313,820 million people votes, where Whites accounted for 74% according to the Exit Poll. This means 98,485,365 Whites voted in 2008.

Whites Voting:

2012: 92,937,018
2008: 98,485,365
2004: 94,167,031

Holy Shit, there were 5,548,347 fewer Whites voting in 2012 vs. 2008.

What happened to those White Voters? Who knows, but if we went back up 2008 levels, the White electorate would be 73%, just 1% less than 2008.

Now if we assume natural growth, there would 102,500,000 White Voters in 2012, which would make it the same 74% of the electorate.

OMG, what happened to those missing 9.5 million White Voters?

sentinelrules on February 22, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Hillary: proof positive that Democrats have finally adopted the Republican’s failed policy of “next in line”.

applebutter on February 22, 2013 at 1:53 PM

She was next in line in 2008 as well. Didn’t work out that way. A Julian Castro or what have you, shows up as she will be toast in 2016 too.

sharrukin on February 22, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Hot Air doing whatever it takes to lay the psychological groundwork for getting the Democrat elected. As usual.

crosspatch on February 22, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Exactly!

The Notorious G.O.P on February 22, 2013 at 1:56 PM

A Texas Latina here. Rubio 2016 baby!

terryannonline on February 22, 2013 at 1:47 PM

I dunno. How impressed are Mexican and Central American Hispanics with a Cuban- American?

a capella on February 22, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Also trying to get clicks. Traffic to HotAir has been down a lot since last year.

sentinelrules on February 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Why does no one ever claim that a post they agree with is designed to “get clicks”? I’ve never understood that. I post videos all the time of liberals doing or saying stupid things and know full well before I post that readers will react strongly favorably to them, but no one ever says in the comments to those, “Nice! Smart way to get clicks.”

If you disagree with the analysis in the post, just explain why. Remember, you’ve got the chair of the Texas Republican Party on record here saying he’s a little worried about a Hillary run. What clicks is he trying to get?

Allahpundit on February 22, 2013 at 1:35 PM

The question is whether there is any relevant current (like today) post or issue that is occurring that would make a post like this relevant.

Did something happen that would make Clinton run in 2016 something that we need to discuss today, now? Is there nothing else that is happening *today* relevant that is not being used by this space?

It’s when posts are put up with no special relevancy and the only apparent motive is possibly “riling up the troops” or “page clicks” is when you’ll get these comments.

This is a piggyback off a RCP post (of which I am not going to click to) and a bunch of ancient data (2010 & 2011) and a column from the slimes from two days ago.

It’s hard not to ask “why” and odd to be surprised when someone does ask.

kim roy on February 22, 2013 at 1:58 PM

The bigger question is:

What presidential “products” will the Ruling class trot out for the consumers to purchase in 2016.

All the products will do the same job. Some will just have thick glasses and get the abused woman vote. Some might have a Tex-Mex Latino flavor. Some might be like a really sour New York Hoagie. Some will be Delaware fishery tasty.

Pick your flavor America……..all the products will be the same essential ingredient (Progressivism, and growing federal power).

PappyD61 on February 22, 2013 at 1:59 PM

bho just might decide he needs to ‘king/dictator’ and not ‘allow’ an election in 2016? I think bho would try it if he thought he could get away with it? But that is just me.
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letget on February 22, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Hillary can’t turn anything blue – she is old and blech!! Unelectable at this point.

Could the dems do that? Turn the state – different question.

Zomcon JEM on February 22, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Hot Air doing whatever it takes to lay the psychological groundwork for getting the Democrat elected. As usual.

crosspatch on February 22, 2013 at 1:27 PM

ROMNEY IS GOING TO WIN! ROMNEY IS GOING TO WIN! THE POLLS ARE LYING I KNOW IT!

Flapjackmaka on February 22, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Pardon my ignorance, but just who is “The Unmade Bed”?

Another Drew on February 22, 2013 at 1:39 PM

It’s a line from one of my fav tv shows – Columbo.

Suzanne Pleshette is playing a woman who is involved with an immaculately dressed, ex-military guy, Eddie Albert. Columbo, of course, in his ruffled raincoat, comments about how the Eddie Albert character is dressed – to which the Pleshette character retorts:

Lieutenant, some people don’t want to walk around looking like an unmade bed.

In essence – a slob.

Hillary Clinton looks like a slob. She’s the Rosanne of American poltiics.

She’s an unmade bed.

OhEssYouCowboys on February 22, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Anybody who ignores the very real possibility of Texas becoming going dem is whistling past the graveyard.

clearbluesky on February 22, 2013 at 1:45 PM

If the borders open up, certainly. No one plays Santa better than the Democrats.

kim roy on February 22, 2013 at 2:02 PM

When ever I see a photo of Bill’s wife, I turn blue.

birdwatcher on February 22, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Want to invite Californians to your state, this is what you get.

Russ86 on February 22, 2013 at 2:04 PM

1. The boss from the RNC should know, he and the national party keep helping McCain get elected, they help many more “am-nasty” RINO’s get re-election money, he is at the root of the problem so I do ass-u-and-me he kowns what he is talking about on the more likely voters the illegals will provide in Texas.

2. Yet East Texas used to be the real base of the Democrats in Texas and the way liberal national and state of Texas Democrats have been pushing these rather conservative Texans out of the Democrat Party. How do I know this , because I have put 100,000 miles on my wife and I’s cars the last 12 years doing the foot work.
Republicans will take over all of East Texas soon from the Red River to the Gulf. That is a very highly populated area of the state. There even the long time blacks who were Democrats are coming over to the Republicans as they are farmer/ranchers/bussiness people who love freedom too.

3. Yes Dallas, Houston, San Antonio,Ft.Worth and puke liberal nut case Austin is pure Democrat. Some of it self inflicted some of it pure escape of Republicans to other counties near by. Take Dallas conservatives bleeding off to Denton, Collin, Kaufman, Rockwall, and Grayson County areas.
So the vote in Dallas went way nut job like the FBI new catch Democrat County Comish, John Wiley Price.
The Republicans on Dallas County, Harris County even Bexar County are on the come back. No press on that but it is real, our press here is also full commie hacks so do not belive any thing your read in any of the print rags.

4. The Republican Conv. just before the primary run off election between Ted Cruz and the inside guy Prebus etal wanted David Dewhurst is a shinning example of the grass roots work that has been on going in Texas.

Ted drew to speak first, when he came to the mic, thousands of signs waving “Ted or Senate” standing ovation by almost 100% of those there in the full house Tarrant County Convention Center.
Four or Five other standing ovations during his talk, and one last long one with signs waving at the end.

Dewhurst, comes, 4 to 8 signs waving, polite applause, boreing tolk then polite applause and he is off the stage. I felt sorry for him.

Ted Cruz filled every hall he went to, every event full and over flowing.

Why,
Conservative and will not back down.

That is all it will take.

Next John Cornyn
Next Rick Perry unless he re-joins us.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 22, 2013 at 2:04 PM

I think that’s Shrillary. Kind of a good description.

msupertas on February 22, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Exactimundo.

OhEssYouCowboys on February 22, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Yes they have, i live in Texas and there’s been a huge push by Texas dems since Bush 2 won the WH. These days you see Texas Democrat bumper stickers everywhere, that was the campaign started after Bush 2 won the WH. Local lib blogs here in Texas are constantly doing posts about turning Texas blue and let’s not kid ourselves, all the major cities are dem strongholds now including Dallas which was the last holdout.
While a lot of it is dems moving from blue states, illegals account for just as much of the cities now being dark blue. I’ve been warning illegal immigrant supporters for years that it’s only a matter of time before the votes in the blue cities in Texas overwhelm the votes in red rural areas.
clearbluesky on February 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Ah, the infamous blog entry and bumper sticker vote.
By the way, Romney had that vote in 2012. It wasn’t enough. In addition, Houston and Dallas and San Antonio are filled with Texans. New residents change the mix, but I’m willing to bet that Texans will have a bigger effect on newby voting habits than the other way ’round.

applebutter on February 22, 2013 at 2:05 PM

keep the change on February 22, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Um yeah, ignorance is bliss.

I’m from Texas.

Nuff said.

Wino on February 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM

And hitting the vino again, really hard.

Anybody who ignores the very real possibility of Texas becoming going dem is whistling past the graveyard.

clearbluesky on February 22, 2013 at 1:45 PM

True enough, but they couldn’t come close with 0bama. They will have to pander so much, to one group, they will loose other votes in other places.

cozmo on February 22, 2013 at 2:05 PM

to be fair, being a long-term minority party isn’t so terrible and does have some advantages after all.

sesquipedalian on February 22, 2013 at 2:07 PM

She polls well now because she’s not the nominee.

When she was the nominee she couldn’t even beat a 1-term senator from Illinois.

I’m not saying we should sleep through the election, but, we don’t need to panic just because she polls high right now when she’s not running for anything.

JadeNYU on February 22, 2013 at 2:08 PM

A Texas Latina here. Rubio 2016 baby!

terryannonline on February 22, 2013 at 1:47 PM

Way to put yourself in the appropriate democrat pigeon hole.

Texans don’t like ugly women. They especially don’t like ugly women with shrill voices that make your sack shrivel up when you hear that shrill voice.
I’d be more concerned with that San Antonio mayor who the Dems paraded around at their convention. Castro. Great name for a statist.

AllahsNippleHair on February 22, 2013 at 2:09 PM

You’re right, I’m sorry. Honest assessment is unhelpful to the cause.

We will DESTROY HILLARY. Prepare for final victory.

Allahpundit on February 22, 2013 at 1:30 PM

This is all depressing stuff, but I prefer to believe large numbers of voters (including Hispannics) will react with abhorrence to the colossal disaster that’s looming for the economy in general and health care specifically.

If two terms of Obama don’t make Democrats unelectable for at least 12 years or more, we really are doomed to become a second-rate power (at best).

DRayRaven on February 22, 2013 at 2:10 PM

The GOP wins if it takes pages from Clinton’s — BILL CLINTON’S — playbook and starts talking about kitchen table (middle class) issues and positions itself as the party of growth, opportunity, and the future.

The GOP loses if it keeps running Northeastern patricians who read off of Sean Hannity’s boilerplate laundry list and who rely on Bill Kristol & Co. for foreign policy advice.

Punchenko on February 22, 2013 at 2:13 PM

if TX ever turns blue, I’m moving back to Oklahoma

burserker on February 22, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Hot Air doing whatever it takes to lay the psychological groundwork for getting the Democrat elected. As usual.

crosspatch on February 22, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Classic example of shooting the messager. This is the kind of person who wants hotair to be an echo chamber a gigantic circle jerk of conservatives beating off furiously and woe be to anyone who interrupts their lemon party.

They only want to read what they want to reality to be. The 2012 election was the best example of this. They kept telling themselves that Palin would run. And anyone who said otherwise was working for the democrats and lying. Then they said that Romney would win. Anyone who said otherwise was working for the democrats. And lying.

Then when the election was lost, they said it was the fault of the aforementioned liars. If only they hadn’t lied.

keep the change on February 22, 2013 at 2:14 PM

A Texas Latina here. Rubio 2016 baby!

terryannonline on February 22, 2013 at 1:47 PM

My theory on Rubio vs. Cruz is that Rubio has done quite a bit more in terms of outreach to the wider Latino community emphasizing a common culture. He does quite a bit of Spanish language media for instance. After the SOTU response he did as many Spanish stations as English stations. He emphasizes his working class, first generation American background. Cruz just seems to want to be a blowhard.

Also, I think that part of why Rubio is pushing immigration reform is because it does minimize the tensions between the Cuban community and the rest of the Hispanic community over immigration status and gives him more credibility there.

Illinidiva on February 22, 2013 at 2:14 PM

So, the logic is Texas is full of alcoholics and Hillary gets the brotherly bond vote?

ButterflyDragon on February 22, 2013 at 2:16 PM

somebody mentioned Perry won with 39% of the vote and is weak – that was in 2006 in a four way race. The next closest was dem Chris Bell at 29%.

AP mentioned dems haven’t tried in Texas yet. Perry won in 2010 with 55%, beating Bill White by 13 points. David Axelrod was White’s campaign manager.

Both Chris Bell and Bill White were longtime Houston municipal fixtures on coucil (Bell) and as mayor (White) and mayor pro tem (Bell). Neither carried Houston.

DanMan on February 22, 2013 at 2:16 PM

If amnesty goes through, all bets are off. I don’t know if the Republicans would hold any executive office in any state, or be beyond a 10% party in 50 years.

Despite what the brain trust of Rubio/McCain/et al think, amnesty is not going to help the GOP, unless by ‘help’ we mean ‘help accelerate its demise.’

Of course, the country will have disintegrated by then, so… whatever.

Midas on February 22, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Speaking as a native Texan, nope.

Ward Cleaver on February 22, 2013 at 2:17 PM

In addition, Houston and Dallas and San Antonio are filled with Texans. New residents change the mix, but I’m willing to bet that Texans will have a bigger effect on newby voting habits than the other way ’round.

applebutter on February 22, 2013 at 2:05 PM

I live in Dallas, the new residents turned it into a dem stronghold.

True enough, but they couldn’t come close with 0bama. They will have to pander so much, to one group, they will loose other votes in other places.

cozmo on February 22, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Yeah, but they’re going to win the cities from now until the foreseeable future, question is when do those cities start to outnumber the rural areas?

clearbluesky on February 22, 2013 at 2:18 PM

Texas – 1980: 70% Anglo
Texas – 2020: Hispanics will overtake Anglos
Texas: 2040: 70% of Texans will be Hispanic

Source: Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas

bw222 on February 22, 2013 at 2:19 PM

If you disagree with the analysis in the post, just explain why. Remember, you’ve got the chair of the Texas Republican Party on record here saying he’s a little worried about a Hillary run. What clicks is he trying to get?

Allahpundit on February 22, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Uh…how about clicks that raise money for the Texas Republican Party?

It’s like NARAL screaming about how Republican X is going to take women’s reproductive rights away or whatever. Not going to happen and everyone except NARAL’s stupid donor pool knows it, but money has to be drummed up somehow.

This isn’t really so hard is it?

Missy on February 22, 2013 at 2:20 PM

keep the change on February 22, 2013 at 2:14 PM

There is a difference between honest analysis about Romney’s electoral chances two months before the election and screaming the sky! is! falling! and Hillary in a landslide nearly four years before an election. The reason why no reputable pollsters poll GE (and even primaries) until much closer to the election is because of name recognition, etc. Heck, Dubya was leading by 15% over Gore and was winning CA by 5% or so in 1999! It was a foregone conclusion that Clinton would win in 2008.

Illinidiva on February 22, 2013 at 2:21 PM

if TX ever turns blue, I’m moving back to Oklahoma

burserker on February 22, 2013 at 2:13 PM

And don’t forget to torch the Red River bridge, when you do.

OhEssYouCowboys on February 22, 2013 at 2:23 PM

You’re right, I’m sorry. Honest assessment is unhelpful to the cause.

We will DESTROY HILLARY. Prepare for final victory.

Allahpundit on February 22, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Unbelievably-credible-and-not-dubious-in-any-way polls to back up that honest assessment as well, I’m sure!

Midas on February 22, 2013 at 2:24 PM

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