The 60th vote: Republican Richard Shelby to vote for cloture on Hagel; Update: Deb Fischer too?
posted at 2:01 pm on February 21, 2013 by Allahpundit
And so, after days of accusations about what Hagel did or didn’t say at Rutgers Israeli control of the State Department, and despite the nominee’s refusal to let reporters pick through his archives, this guy’s actually gaining votes in the Senate rather than losing them.
I understand the argument that the president deserves deference in his cabinet picks, even if I don’t agree with it in this case. But if we’re going to cave, can we at least not sugarcoat Hagel’s incompetence? This is pure garbage from Shelby:
Shelby said he has concerns about former Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel, President Barack Obama’s nominee for Sectary of Defense, but he plans to vote for him and expects the Senate to confirm the nomination.
“He’s probably as good as we’re going to get,” Shelby said.
No one in the mainstream of either party believes that — Flournoy or Ash Carter would likely be less objectionable to both sides — but we always knew that Hagel would sail through on the next cloture vote (barring any stupendous new revelations) and now here’s confirmation. Johanns, Cochran, Collins, Murkowski and now Shelby plus 55 Democrats equals cloture. Which makes this letter to the White House from John Cornyn, co-signed by 14 other Republicans, almost poignant in its impotence:
“While we respect Senator Hagel’s honorable military service, in the interest of national security, we respectfully request that you withdraw his nomination. It would be unprecedented for a Secretary of Defense to take office without the broad base of bipartisan support and confidence needed to serve effectively in this critical position.
“Senator Hagel’s performance at his confirmation hearing was deeply concerning, leading to serious doubts about his basic competence to meet the substantial demands of the office. While Senator Hagel’s erratic record and myriad conversions on key national security issues are troubling enough, his statements regarding Iran were disconcerting.”
The letter is signed by Sens. Cornyn, Inhofe (R-OK), Graham (R-SC), Wicker (R-MS), Vitter (R-LA), Cruz (R-TX), Lee (R-UT), Toomey (R-PA), Rubio (R-FL), Coats (R-IN), R. Johnson (R – WI), Risch (R-ID), Barrasso (R-WY), Coburn (R-OK), Scott (R-SC). The full text is attached and provided below.
Dave Weigel’s right to snicker at Cornyn’s attempt to move the goalposts over what constitutes a “broad base of bipartisan support.” Just 15 of 45 Senate Republicans were willing to go on record as unalterably opposed to Hagel’s nomination by signing here. Among those who didn’t: McCain, Kelly Ayotte, and Rand Paul. The final vote on Hagel might be party-line, more or less, but at this point I won’t be surprised to see 70+ votes for cloture. But maybe at this point that’s for the best. If you think O’s determined to fulfill his long-held ambition of cutting defense funding in his second term and you disagree with that policy, then you’re likely better off with a guy at the top of the Pentagon who’s politically weak and regarded as a bit dim. Hagel is, I suspect, destined to be a rubber stamp for the White House’s foreign policy and military strategy so he probably won’t do much damage independently apart from the occasional ad lib about Jews. America wanted four more years of “smart power,” now they’re going to get Chuck Hagel as its face. Viva democracy.
Update: Like I say, 70+ votes for cloture:
Deb Fischer says she’ll vote for cloture on Hagel nom, @marieharf relays.
— Blake Hounshell (@blakehounshell) February 21, 2013
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Good evening Moon Goddess!!
You dance!! Good isn’t it :-D
Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 12:55 AM
My Choice
Schadenfreude on May 18, 2013 at 12:55 AM
Ken, where are you from before TX..if I may ask?
VA?
bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 12:55 AM
Trust – The Cure
thatsafactjack on May 18, 2013 at 12:55 AM
the left is on offense…barry is just responding to the awful right wing scotus decision and the evil conservative $$$$$.
Durbin has been a big backer of ‘investigations’ since 2010
no doubt the prog Rs like McCain et al. agree entirely with Durbin…and really enjoy working with him on the Big Issues like immigration.
i guess that includs rubio and flake too, now. Charming
r keller on May 18, 2013 at 12:56 AM
Today was so hinky here, I didn’t know where I was or at what time I was!! Was I there or here? Real freaky… did I post or not? I was faster than the internet at one time I got here before I left!!
Crazy
Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 12:56 AM
^This mermaid never answers me you know.
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 12:56 AM
I don’t “get” axe but I “get” willaiam..
hmmmmmm
bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 12:57 AM
It was like was there a there here or there?
Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 12:57 AM
Good evening, Spritely One! :) It’s very good to see you. Yes…dancing. :)
thatsafactjack on May 18, 2013 at 12:57 AM
link
http://pjmedia.com/blog/durbin-asked-irs-shulman-to-probe-several-conservative-501c4-groups-in-2010/?singlepage=true
r keller on May 18, 2013 at 12:57 AM
You want to preempt rogue agents? Remove their immunity.
Just as “ignorance/mistake is no excuse for the taxpayer” so should it be for the agents.
If the agent is wrong then the IRS is liable for triple damages; with 1/6 coming directly out of the agent’s paycheck and another 1/6 out of the supervisor. A few losses in court will force the bad apples out of the business out of self preservation. Simple.
But where are our representatives getting out there pushing a Bill of Rights for taxpayers? If a law is unclear then judgement must default to taxpayer advantage until changed.
Better yet eliminate the IRS and the 16th. But barring that then definitely give the taxpayers tools to fight back, fight being the operative word.
AH_C on May 18, 2013 at 12:57 AM
Sure you can ask! Place called Portsmouth VA. Armpit of the Norfolk/VA Beach area.
KCB on May 18, 2013 at 12:57 AM
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KCB on May 18, 2013 at 12:59 AM
If she sings,or whispers, to a man, she can compel him, should she choose. It’s in her nature. :)
thatsafactjack on May 18, 2013 at 12:59 AM
I’m vowel challenged.
KCB on May 18, 2013 at 12:59 AM
Ken (20 questions)
why is your handle linked to an expired FB page?
Sorry about the armpit. lol
bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 12:59 AM
What up J?
bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 1:00 AM
This one goes out to all the disillusioned Obama pole smokers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsRHj9ZaPCc&list=ALBTKoXRg38BAWCdq2oOhDZR4gSQfAR4EK
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Well, I’m not sure what you are getting at, but . . . I know for a fact you get me. Just FYI. Better than most. If I missed something, skip this. :)
Nice upholstery.
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 1:01 AM
Pambi is our mermaid. I conjured her a special salt water pool in the Glade… there is a passage directly to the sea in the bottom of the pool. :)
thatsafactjack on May 18, 2013 at 1:01 AM
Nice upholstery.
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 1:01 AM
see!
lol
bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 1:01 AM
Don’t be ridiculous. Who’s talking to the pony?
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 1:02 AM
Waited all day to share this :)
Schadenfreude on May 18, 2013 at 1:02 AM
Did it by accident while trying to figure out how it works. Left it.
KCB on May 18, 2013 at 1:02 AM
KCB on May 18, 2013 at 1:02 AM
left the link or FB?
bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 1:03 AM
I know. Just picking on Axe, good naturedly, of course.
KCB on May 18, 2013 at 1:03 AM
Good evening, B9 :) I’m relaxing now that I’ve spent the last week on a particularly difficult and troublesome project and wrapped it up. My main computer won’t be repaired until Monday afternoon, so they tell me, and I’m taking a few days to recooperate. :) I hope you’re well. I understand your cruise didn’t agree with you. I hope you feel better soon.
thatsafactjack on May 18, 2013 at 1:03 AM
The link. I don’t have a site or anything, so I kinda forgot about it.
KCB on May 18, 2013 at 1:04 AM
Ug. No more of that. :)
See this spider? Creepy isn’t it? And I’m just ignoring it. It has every right to the garage, as far as I’m concerned.
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 1:04 AM
I understand your cruise didn’t agree with you. I hope you feel better soon.
thatsafactjack on May 18, 2013 at 1:03 AM
Not me..family visiting.
But thx. :)
bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 1:05 AM
KCB on May 18, 2013 at 1:04 AM
okay..my interrogation is over. ;P
bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 1:05 AM
I like spiders..cool little creatures.
The web.
bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 1:06 AM
Schadenfreude on May 18, 2013 at 1:02 AM
Awwwwwwwwwwww so cool I luvs Budgies… :-)
BTW I showed my neighbours the Giraffes, they loved it!!
Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 1:08 AM
LOL! That was delightful! :) I love parakeets… and those hand raised birds were wonderful! Thank you for cuing that up. :)
Good evening, Schadenfreude. :) Wonderful to see you, my friend.
thatsafactjack on May 18, 2013 at 1:11 AM
W
Very cool! Thanks for the link!
KCB on May 18, 2013 at 1:12 AM
That. Was awesome.
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 1:12 AM
Heh. That was great.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 18, 2013 at 1:13 AM
Anytime!
KCB on May 18, 2013 at 1:13 AM
Lazy river
Schadenfreude on May 18, 2013 at 1:13 AM
Moonlight Serenade – Miller
thatsafactjack on May 18, 2013 at 1:14 AM
:) I knew you’d like it, incl. the fancy attire of the audience.
Evening fair lady.
Schadenfreude on May 18, 2013 at 1:15 AM
Truth or dare.
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 1:15 AM
I gonna fly the coop!!
God Bless everyone!!
Good night and sweet dreams to all!! :-D
* swoosh *
Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 1:15 AM
Fabulous. Thank you. :)
thatsafactjack on May 18, 2013 at 1:17 AM
Good night Chrissy!
KCB on May 18, 2013 at 1:17 AM
Goodnight, Spritely One. Sleep well. :)
thatsafactjack on May 18, 2013 at 1:18 AM
Here’s another one
Schadenfreude on May 18, 2013 at 1:18 AM
Where?
thatsafactjack on May 18, 2013 at 1:18 AM
Night Scrump, published poet. :)
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 1:18 AM
*tilts head*
*stares at question*
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 1:20 AM
I’m invisible.
KCB on May 18, 2013 at 1:21 AM
That was remarkbaly well done. Very moving, and wonderfully concieved and executed.
thatsafactjack on May 18, 2013 at 1:23 AM
Vowel movement.
Just be thankful you still have verbs.
Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 1:23 AM
Thanks.
I love birds in Escher lithographs and rhombus fish.
SparkPlug on May 18, 2013 at 1:23 AM
LOL!:)
thatsafactjack on May 18, 2013 at 1:23 AM
let it be
jrsrigmvr on May 18, 2013 at 1:24 AM
My favorite two poets are Shelly and Scrumpy.
SparkPlug on May 18, 2013 at 1:25 AM
I found this cool mermaid song last night and posted it here for pambi.
Schadenfreude on May 18, 2013 at 1:25 AM
Serenade – F.Schubert
thatsafactjack on May 18, 2013 at 1:26 AM
My favorite writers are Melville and Jackie.
SparkPlug on May 18, 2013 at 1:26 AM
How wonderful. I’m sure she enjoyed it. I think it’s great that we have a mermaid in the Glade. A very fine addition. :)
thatsafactjack on May 18, 2013 at 1:28 AM
LOL! You certainly put me in stellar company, Spark.
“Call me Jackie. I am born.”
thatsafactjack on May 18, 2013 at 1:29 AM
Now – THIS is how I like to listen to and play this song……kid was a MONSTER!!
williamg on May 18, 2013 at 1:31 AM
No sir, they were this and now they are this.
arnold ziffel on May 18, 2013 at 1:33 AM
Mine is Axe.
Schadenfreude on May 18, 2013 at 1:34 AM
Lol.
NotCoach on May 18, 2013 at 1:35 AM
^bump
(Sorry. Just tired of flipping back and forth.)
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 1:35 AM
Schad!
*beam*
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 1:35 AM
You sir are continually awesome. I mean it.
arnold ziffel on May 18, 2013 at 1:36 AM
Spark, really? Present company excluded, Shelly and Melville?
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 1:36 AM
Ave Maria – Schubert (Callas)
thatsafactjack on May 18, 2013 at 1:38 AM
Indeed, indeed!
Schadenfreude on May 18, 2013 at 1:39 AM
nite
Adios: vaya con dios
Fred
jrsrigmvr on May 18, 2013 at 1:40 AM
Was that Goldie Hawn in the middle of the clip?
arnold ziffel on May 18, 2013 at 1:40 AM
Goodnight, Fred. I hope you and yours are well. Sleep well. :)
thatsafactjack on May 18, 2013 at 1:40 AM
Night Fred. :) Apologies for not saying anything til now. Thread wasn’t easy to track tonight.
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 1:41 AM
Yeah – I’ll have to toss in with Schade – provided that Schade and Axe are included as a combination “literary package”……
……well….and Philip K. Dick……
williamg on May 18, 2013 at 1:43 AM
Nessun Dorma – Pavarotti
I bid you all a fond goodnight. It’s been a pleasure, as always. See you soon.
thatsafactjack on May 18, 2013 at 1:44 AM
That’s beautiful, Jackie! Why did you play this? Did you remember something?
williamg on May 18, 2013 at 1:45 AM
Present company not available, except for comments, having gone through entire universal literature, at least the masterpieces…if I had only two weeks to live, I’d reread as much as possible by Will Durant.
If you have not read Transition, yet, start with it, if inclined to look into his writings. America doesn’t appreciate and deserve him.
Schadenfreude on May 18, 2013 at 1:45 AM
I seem to remember an unknown redneck chillbilly laying out almost exactly what was going to happen if Obama was elected. She was laughed at by many of these “intellectuals” that today, are finally telling us how bad O is.
A-holes
CTSherman on May 18, 2013 at 1:47 AM
Nite Jackie
Schadenfreude on May 18, 2013 at 1:47 AM
I haven’t. I am. I will.
Not soon enough, graceful Jackie. :) Have a great night.
I hope Spark sees my Q soon. I really want the answer, and I’m running out of steam.
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 1:51 AM
:) *uptwinkles*
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 1:51 AM
Major impact on everything that happened after.
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 1:53 AM
I bet Obama is thinking that it really stinks that he has another 10 months to go before he gets to fill out his March Madness brackets.
KMav on May 18, 2013 at 1:57 AM
It’s short and absolutely delightful. He was born in Canada, to a very Catholic family and Transition is all about how his mom wanted him to become a priest but he didn’t…even the powers to be in the seminary helped him not to. Not giving away much. It is simply a delightful read, all autobiographical, and how he began to write. He was one of the greatest as far as documenting humanity/civilization, or as I call them ‘humanity’ and ‘civilization’, because they are mostly neither.
Schadenfreude on May 18, 2013 at 2:02 AM
I thought so too.
Schadenfreude on May 18, 2013 at 2:03 AM
– Kimberley Strassel – she is grat.
Schadenfreude on May 18, 2013 at 2:04 AM
Indeed.
AesopFan on May 18, 2013 at 2:09 AM
–Jonah Goldberg
Schadenfreude on May 18, 2013 at 2:13 AM
I just thought of something that I need to write down. :) Before I pass out. And I’m about to pass out. I’ll just grill Spark later.
Night Sophie, who is probably asleep. :) Dreaming nougat dreams, dreaming of troll-slaughter. God, please bless Sophie.
Night Schad. :)
Night everyone.
– About “Barack the Buck-Passer,” above: I’m against it.
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 2:16 AM
Nite Axe.
We tease you because we like you.
Schadenfreude on May 18, 2013 at 2:22 AM
More than a little apropos:
Final graf:
AesopFan on May 18, 2013 at 2:23 AM
Obama will shortly decide to spend the rest of his term onboard the International Space Station.
Where his weightlessness will be more natural.
profitsbeard on May 18, 2013 at 2:58 AM
For viking01 (this rules! – it was one of the first vids I saw on YouTube years ago)
Cheech And Chong – “Basketball Jones”
Anti-Control on May 18, 2013 at 3:13 AM
You got my attention – smooches, beautiful :)
This is for you, b
mine9, one of the best of the ’80s imoRubber Rodeo – “Anywhere With You”
Anti-Control on May 18, 2013 at 3:23 AM
b
mine9, some of the lyrics from that song:I will go anywhere with you
Call my name
And I’ll be there
Say the word
And I’ll pack my bags tonight
I’ll go anywhere
If you are there
:)
Anti-Control on May 18, 2013 at 3:31 AM
My favorite Philosophers are Searle and Schad.
SparkPlug on May 18, 2013 at 3:41 AM
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