The 60th vote: Republican Richard Shelby to vote for cloture on Hagel; Update: Deb Fischer too?

posted at 2:01 pm on February 21, 2013 by Allahpundit

And so, after days of accusations about what Hagel did or didn’t say at Rutgers Israeli control of the State Department, and despite the nominee’s refusal to let reporters pick through his archives, this guy’s actually gaining votes in the Senate rather than losing them.

I understand the argument that the president deserves deference in his cabinet picks, even if I don’t agree with it in this case. But if we’re going to cave, can we at least not sugarcoat Hagel’s incompetence? This is pure garbage from Shelby:

Shelby said he has concerns about former Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel, President Barack Obama’s nominee for Sectary of Defense, but he plans to vote for him and expects the Senate to confirm the nomination.

“He’s probably as good as we’re going to get,” Shelby said.

No one in the mainstream of either party believes that — Flournoy or Ash Carter would likely be less objectionable to both sides — but we always knew that Hagel would sail through on the next cloture vote (barring any stupendous new revelations) and now here’s confirmation. Johanns, Cochran, Collins, Murkowski and now Shelby plus 55 Democrats equals cloture. Which makes this letter to the White House from John Cornyn, co-signed by 14 other Republicans, almost poignant in its impotence:

“While we respect Senator Hagel’s honorable military service, in the interest of national security, we respectfully request that you withdraw his nomination. It would be unprecedented for a Secretary of Defense to take office without the broad base of bipartisan support and confidence needed to serve effectively in this critical position.

“Senator Hagel’s performance at his confirmation hearing was deeply concerning, leading to serious doubts about his basic competence to meet the substantial demands of the office. While Senator Hagel’s erratic record and myriad conversions on key national security issues are troubling enough, his statements regarding Iran were disconcerting.”

The letter is signed by Sens. Cornyn, Inhofe (R-OK), Graham (R-SC), Wicker (R-MS), Vitter (R-LA), Cruz (R-TX), Lee (R-UT), Toomey (R-PA), Rubio (R-FL), Coats (R-IN), R. Johnson (R – WI), Risch (R-ID), Barrasso (R-WY), Coburn (R-OK), Scott (R-SC). The full text is attached and provided below.

Dave Weigel’s right to snicker at Cornyn’s attempt to move the goalposts over what constitutes a “broad base of bipartisan support.” Just 15 of 45 Senate Republicans were willing to go on record as unalterably opposed to Hagel’s nomination by signing here. Among those who didn’t: McCain, Kelly Ayotte, and Rand Paul. The final vote on Hagel might be party-line, more or less, but at this point I won’t be surprised to see 70+ votes for cloture. But maybe at this point that’s for the best. If you think O’s determined to fulfill his long-held ambition of cutting defense funding in his second term and you disagree with that policy, then you’re likely better off with a guy at the top of the Pentagon who’s politically weak and regarded as a bit dim. Hagel is, I suspect, destined to be a rubber stamp for the White House’s foreign policy and military strategy so he probably won’t do much damage independently apart from the occasional ad lib about Jews. America wanted four more years of “smart power,” now they’re going to get Chuck Hagel as its face. Viva democracy.

Update: Like I say, 70+ votes for cloture:


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As good as we’re going to get?

Criminy, if that does sum up our present state of affairs, nothing else does.

We’re circling the drain, folks…

Corky on February 21, 2013 at 2:03 PM

The 60th vote: Republican Richard Shelby to vote for cloture on Hagel; Update: Deb Fischer too?

They were just negotiating behind the scenes on who was going to vote for Hagel so the others can strut and posture.

sharrukin on February 21, 2013 at 2:05 PM

The letter is signed by Sens. Cornyn, Inhofe (R-OK), Graham (R-SC), Wicker (R-MS), Vitter (R-LA), Cruz (R-TX), Lee (R-UT), Toomey (R-PA), Rubio (R-FL), Coats (R-IN), R. Johnson (R – WI), Risch (R-ID), Barrasso (R-WY), Coburn (R-OK), Scott (R-SC). The full text is attached and provided below.

Missing from this list: Rand Paul.

nobar on February 21, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Well this is sad sad news for the US.

What a horrible man, but he fits right in with bho’s horrible team!
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letget on February 21, 2013 at 2:05 PM

I hate the GOP almost as much as I hate the DNC. I really do..

melle1228 on February 21, 2013 at 2:06 PM

The GOPe will has betrayed you…

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 2:06 PM

We’ve got the best senators money can buy.

The Rogue Tomato on February 21, 2013 at 2:06 PM

“He’s probably as good as we’re going to get,”

INCOMPETENCE ONWARD!!!

Bitter Clinger on February 21, 2013 at 2:08 PM

He looks so much smarter with glasses on.

A Balrog of Morgoth on February 21, 2013 at 2:09 PM

So then what was the point of the GOP filibuster last week if they were just eventually going to bend over and take it?

Mark1971 on February 21, 2013 at 2:14 PM

A lot of folks round about these (Hot Air) part genuinely hate Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts because he refused to rule Obamacare unconstitutional. In his majority opinion Chief Justice Roberts said point blank, “I refuse to absolve the American people of the responsibility of who they elected as their Congressional Representatives”. Looks like not only was Chief Justices Roberts right, but he is going to live to get the last laugh as well.

Or, to put Chief Justice Roberts words into simpler easier to understand terms… “You done brung em, now you can damned well dance with em”.

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Sigh

Incompetence thy name is Obama administration

cmsinaz on February 21, 2013 at 2:15 PM

So then what was the point of the GOP filibuster last week if they were just eventually going to bend over and take it?

Mark1971 on February 21, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Kabuki theater.

sharrukin on February 21, 2013 at 2:16 PM

We knew the second Johanns announced his retirement that he would fold. Scumbag.

Smaulz on February 21, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Anyone naive enough to think this kind of bipartisanship will prevent more borking in the future when/if Republicans somehow get elected as President should have his or her water supply examined for hallucinogens. For the press, every Democrat is always moderate and every Republican is always a criminally-minded radical – well, except Chuck Hagel, of course.

Archivarix on February 21, 2013 at 2:17 PM

They’re no better than the dems; they’re arguably worse.

garnkikaloid on February 21, 2013 at 2:18 PM

Wasted effort again.

celticdefender on February 21, 2013 at 2:18 PM

I hate the Rs more than the leftards. The latter do what they say they’ll do, destroy the land. The former pretend not to.

Schadenfreude on February 21, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Watching the GOP is like watching World War II circa 1940. You really, really, want the good guys to win but they surrender and retreat at every possible opportunity.

If the GOP are the French and Italians, where are the Americans to bail them out?

pendell2 on February 21, 2013 at 2:20 PM

“He’s probably as good as we’re going to get,” Shelby said.

That’s a rather sad indictment of our federal government if Shelby believes that.

Doughboy on February 21, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Caved. Eunuchs. Zero testicular fortitude.

rightside on February 21, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Shelby has just shown one of the best reasons to NOT vote for the gop. Screwem all. they are all the same.

johnny reb on February 21, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Or, to put Chief Justice Roberts words into simpler easier to understand terms… “You done brung em, now you can damned well dance with em”.

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 2:14 PM

The only problem is, we didn’t. The electoral system is so mind-bogglingly corrupt that sometimes one has to ask oneself why even bother voting. As an old quote says, “if voting changed anything they’d make it illegal.”

Archivarix on February 21, 2013 at 2:21 PM

“Senator Hagel’s performance at his confirmation hearing was deeply concerning, leading to serious doubts about his basic competence to meet the substantial demands of the office. While Senator Hagel’s erratic record and myriad conversions on key national security issues are troubling enough, his statements regarding Iran were disconcerting.”

The trimvirate of Obama-Hagel-Kerry is perfectly incompetent and the land deserves them in Full!!!

Only Maxine Waters would have been a more sincere pick.

Schadenfreude on February 21, 2013 at 2:22 PM

triumvirate

Schadenfreude on February 21, 2013 at 2:22 PM

TRAITOR!
Shame on you, Sen. Shelby!
AL…time for this RINO to go.

LoneStarGal on February 21, 2013 at 2:23 PM

They were just negotiating behind the scenes on who was going to vote for Hagel so the others can strut and posture.

sharrukin on February 21, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Yep! That’s how Pelosi did it. Musical chairs.

bluefox on February 21, 2013 at 2:23 PM

May the GOP die, soon. They deserve NO less. The party needs to be destroyed. Otherwise they destroy the land more than the leftists, because they enable the libtards’ destruction.

Schadenfreude on February 21, 2013 at 2:23 PM

I can’t believe that Obama did not pick Colon Powell for SOD….what a racist!

redguy on February 21, 2013 at 2:23 PM

So then what was the point of the GOP filibuster last week if they were just eventually going to bend over and take it?

Mark1971

Optics. For dead enders like you. The GOP is irrelevant.

lostmotherland on February 21, 2013 at 2:24 PM

I understand the argument that the president deserves deference in his cabinet picks,

I don’t. Barky’s history of pathetic, awful, anti-American, stupid cabinet picks is well-known. There is no deference to be given to someone with a known history such as this. In fact, given Barky’s history, the only reasonable assumption would be that he only nominates someone for his cabinet if they are specifically aligned against American interests, to reflect the Indonesian Dog-Eater’s own position.

The Constitution says nothing about “deference” in its delegation fo the responsibility of “advice and consent” to the Senate.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 21, 2013 at 2:24 PM

Anyway, what does it matter?

claudius on February 21, 2013 at 2:24 PM

Hagel hates Israel and the US.

Obama agrees with him.

The world deserves them all.

Enjoy the fall, fools.

The Islamists will get your heads.

Schadenfreude on February 21, 2013 at 2:25 PM

Caved. Eunuchs. Zero testicular fortitude.

rightside on February 21, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Yep. You’ve just defined the word RINO.

LoneStarGal on February 21, 2013 at 2:25 PM

May the GOP die, soon.

Who did you vote for last election cycle, I wonder. Hmmm….

lostmotherland on February 21, 2013 at 2:25 PM

We’ve got the best senators money can buy.

The Rogue Tomato on February 21, 2013 at 2:06 PM

I wouldn’t feel so bad if it was OUR money, LOL Someone else bought their vote, but they are voting in OUR name.

bluefox on February 21, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Thinking on that last post: The French didn’t really start to turn things around until they got behind De Gaulle. That meant getting rid of the Petains and the Lavals and all the other defeatists who thought the enemy should be accommodated with. House cleanin’ time!

pendell2 on February 21, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Whoever votes for this asshat, vote THEM out of the office they disrespect by voting for an Anti Israel Hagel.

TX-96 on February 21, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Frat boys (and girls) voting for Frat Boys. Who could have ever imagined it!

I never had any doubts that this worthless anti-American, anti-Jew douche would be confirmed.

LegendHasIt on February 21, 2013 at 2:27 PM

So then what was the point of the GOP filibuster last week if they were just eventually going to bend over and take it?

Mark1971 on February 21, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Oh, that was the Pre-Cave Vote Performance they put on; routine. Even added to their Cast for this one. Good grief!

bluefox on February 21, 2013 at 2:28 PM

“He’s probably as good as we’re going to get,” Shelby said.

 
The worst part is that he’s probably right. I can definitely see Obama choosing a “Saw” (movie) approach to something like this. Refuse Hagel and see an even more anti-Israel/pro-idiocracy candidate up next time. Refuse him and an even worse one comes up than that guy. Refuse him, etc.

rogerb on February 21, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Same old script.

Barky says here’s what I want. The Republicans (supposedly the opposition party) say NO, that’s bad, we won’t allow it; we’re standing up for the tens of millions of people who voted against you (not to mention our own constituents).

Then he gets what he wants anyway.

The Republican Party needs to be re-branded, alright — as the “Nevermind Party.”

IndieDogg on February 21, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Sigh

Incompetence thy name is Obama administration

cmsinaz on February 21, 2013 at 2:15 PM

I have a different word for his/their demise:-)

bluefox on February 21, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Heh, this on Drudge

LIMBAUGH: FOR FIRST TIME I’M ASHAMED OF MY COUNTRY

…and the RL link is down “for repairs” :)

Schadenfreude on February 21, 2013 at 2:31 PM

The Republicans are useless, once again they refuse to fight.

RJL on February 21, 2013 at 2:32 PM

Wow, so we are going to get an incompetent Anti-Semite for SecDef.

I guess the country in a sad way deserves the fate that we going to get.

Idiocracy here we come.

On that note, I do find it highly interesting that Obama and Dems made the presidential election about abortion, women issues and gay issues and now the Dems and their liberal hack foot soldiers are defending Hagel’s record on these issues. It’s almost like these people are complete partisan hacks. Oh wait, of course they are.

Lance Murdock on February 21, 2013 at 2:32 PM

I understand the argument that the president deserves deference in his cabinet picks

I don’t understand it, what’s the point of having a senate or even elections if the prez is just going to get what he wants anyway? Just put a guy in the white house and let him do whatever he wants, don’t waste our time with the whole checks and balances thing if we’re not going to use them.

clearbluesky on February 21, 2013 at 2:34 PM

I have a different word for his/their demise:-)

bluefox on February 21, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Share it. We want to rejoice in it.

Schadenfreude on February 21, 2013 at 2:34 PM

Heh, this on Drudge

LIMBAUGH: FOR FIRST TIME I’M ASHAMED OF MY COUNTRY

…and the RL link is down “for repairs” :)

Schadenfreude on February 21, 2013 at 2:31 PM

The first time I was REALLY scared for my country was when
the A$$hat was voted in for a second term.

Amjean on February 21, 2013 at 2:34 PM

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Sounds like Roberts is saying it’s the voter’s fault that he can’t perform the job he was appointed to do.

bluefox on February 21, 2013 at 2:34 PM

Yep! That’s how Pelosi did it. Musical chairs.

bluefox on February 21, 2013 at 2:23 PM

To be fair, she probably got it as a primary weapon from Denny Hastert; he was infamous for it.

And it probably was well-used since about 1789 as well.

Jeff Weimer on February 21, 2013 at 2:34 PM

Schadenfreude on February 21, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Rush just mentioned this. He said it was up now? I heard Rush say this so I don’t need to read the article.
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letget on February 21, 2013 at 2:35 PM

It’s a win win for obama. When Hagel screws up, and we know he will, obama can just say “See I shouldn’t have tried to be bi- partisan by choosing a Republican.”

sandee on February 21, 2013 at 2:35 PM

The 60th vote: Republican Richard Shelby to vote for cloture on Hagel; Update: Deb Fischer too?

But, BOY, did we have you Conservatives going for a bit
with our tough stance last week, huh??

ToddPA on February 21, 2013 at 2:36 PM

Incompetence thy name is Obama administration

While Barry may be and is likely personally incompetent, the same can’t be said for many if not most of his mentors and advisers from whom he takes his instructions.

His admin is full of those with evil intent bent on transforming our republic into a single party dictatorship.

hawkeye54 on February 21, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Amjean on February 21, 2013 at 2:34 PM

…voted in for the first time…it’s scary to see how many fools elect something based on hue alone, with zero accomplishments. It proved so much about who pulls strings.

Soros made over one billion since last Nov….just one example. He made it based on ‘currency wars’.

Something big is going on, much bigger than all this. Expect a forced financial, thus economic, collapse. It will be a made crisis. Lots of freedom will be lost as a result ‘to save us’.

Schadenfreude on February 21, 2013 at 2:37 PM

“He’s probably as good as we’re going to get,” Shelby said.
No one in the mainstream of either party believes that

I think Shelby’s statement was intended as an insult to Obama and the quality of his nominees.

DRayRaven on February 21, 2013 at 2:37 PM

He looks so much smarter with glasses on.

A Balrog of Morgoth on February 21, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Yeah, so does Hitlery.

But both of them are stupid and/or evil to the core.

UltimateBob on February 21, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Jeff Sessions is the only Conservative in this state. Shelby is a former democrat. Need I say more?

MustLoveBlogs on February 21, 2013 at 2:37 PM

We are all Georgians stupid now.

VorDaj on February 21, 2013 at 2:39 PM

“Imagine there’s no countries
It isn’t hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too”

Apparently, I have lived to see the advent of the last man —or at least the last Western man.

“The last man (German: der letzte Mensch) is a term used by the philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche in Thus Spoke Zarathustra to describe the antithesis of the imagined superior being, the Übermensch, whose imminent appearance is heralded by Zarathustra. The last man is tired of life, takes no risks, and seeks only comfort and security.”

claudius on February 21, 2013 at 2:40 PM

End of the GOP. What’s the name our replacement?

nobar on February 21, 2013 at 2:40 PM

*of our

nobar on February 21, 2013 at 2:41 PM

I have a different word for his/their demise:-)

bluefox on February 21, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Share it. We want to rejoice in it.

Schadenfreude on February 21, 2013 at 2:34 PM

LOL AP & Ed wouldn’t approve:-) I’m sure we can all use our imagination.

bluefox on February 21, 2013 at 2:41 PM

o_o <—the shocked look on my face.

Mr. Arrogant on February 21, 2013 at 2:41 PM

Why can’t they just vote *present* ? Either that of take time off and say they were recovering from a concusion.

VorDaj on February 21, 2013 at 2:42 PM

claudius on February 21, 2013 at 2:40 PM

Lieber ein Ende mit Schrecken als ein Schrecken ohne Ende

H/t to HA commenter Gelsomina, who provided this, yesterday, in the Romney thread.

Schadenfreude on February 21, 2013 at 2:42 PM

“He’s probably as good as we’re going to get,”

Never though I’d live to see the day when an incompetent such as Hagel was “. . . as good as we’re going to get,”. This is the best we can do? Then, I’m glad I’m old and won’t be around when we pass into oblivion. Reminds me of the decline of the Roman Empire. From the only super-power of it’s time to over run by Attilla and his Huns. Wonder which of the “Attila’s” out there will conquer the US.

polarglen on February 21, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Bunch of spineless Republicans..freaking tired with the majority of them

sadsushi on February 21, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Hagel’s name will be on all of the cuts.He gets the blame for all of the coming layoffs and company closings.At least the ones losing jobs get a 30 day notice.Now they will vote democrat to keep the unemployment checks coming.

docflash on February 21, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Missing from this list: Rand Paul.

nobar on February 21, 2013 at 2:05 PM

So is McCains and 20 other Republicans, what is your point.

RickB on February 21, 2013 at 2:43 PM

bluefox on February 21, 2013 at 2:41 PM

Ah, you want them ‘pitchforked’, politically, of course :)

Schadenfreude on February 21, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Sadly, this Congress is as good as it’s gonna get. Years from now we’ll be looking back at these times as the good ol’ days. Man simply cannot govern himself. Thank you low-life, er, I mean low-information, voters.

HiJack on February 21, 2013 at 2:44 PM

So is McCains and 20 other Republicans, what is your point.

RickB on February 21, 2013 at 2:43 PM

If Rand has aspirations, he would do well to not to sour the base.

nobar on February 21, 2013 at 2:45 PM

bluefox on February 21, 2013 at 2:23 PM

To be fair, she probably got it as a primary weapon from Denny Hastert; he was infamous for it.

And it probably was well-used since about 1789 as well.

Jeff Weimer on February 21, 2013 at 2:34 PM

Oh really? I didn’t know that. Must have been busy working and raising children:-) I have a little more leisure time now.

Pelosi used that with the blue dog votes, LOL

bluefox on February 21, 2013 at 2:47 PM

“He’s probably as good as we’re going to get,”

This is a true statement. Maxine Waters would have been a ‘better’ pick.

Never assume that Obama has positive aspirations for America and Israel, or the Western world, as you knew her.

They will enable the Islamists further.

Obama has the world sookered, while his brothers succeed, apace. He is their de facto leader and the muzzie brotherhood flourishes under him. Hagel will be one of his capos. Kerry is the other.

Schadenfreude on February 21, 2013 at 2:47 PM

He looks so much smarter with glasses on.

A Balrog of Morgoth on February 21, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Misread,thought you wrote smaller.

docflash on February 21, 2013 at 2:47 PM

Jeff Weimer on February 21, 2013 at 2:34 PM

Does the name Gladys have any meaning to you?

bluefox on February 21, 2013 at 2:48 PM

We are doomed to end up opposed to the nation of Israel. Oh, well.

HiJack on February 21, 2013 at 2:50 PM

So glad I removed my Republican affiliation after their last cave in.

tyketto on February 21, 2013 at 2:52 PM

The GOP is irrelevant.

lostmotherland on February 21, 2013 at 2:24 PM

probably the most enlightened thing I’ve ever seen from you…

affenhauer on February 21, 2013 at 2:52 PM

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Sounds like Roberts is saying it’s the voter’s fault that he can’t perform the job he was appointed to do.

bluefox on February 21, 2013 at 2:34 PM

No, what Chief Justice Roberts was saying was, it’s not the role of the Supreme Court to abrogate acts of Congress or to punish Congress for acting in it’s official capacity, it’s the role of the electorate to choose more carefully who they elect to represent them.

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 2:52 PM

The 60th vote: Republican Richard Shelby to vote for cloture on Hagel; Update: Deb Fischer too?
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D*mn……..D*mn….D*mn……Triple D*mmitt!!

canopfor on February 21, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Something big is going on, much bigger than all this. Expect a forced financial, thus economic, collapse. It will be a made crisis. Lots of freedom will be lost as a result ‘to save us’.

Schadenfreude on February 21, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Sadly, I agree. I first felt these vibes in 2007 and they have gotten stronger and stronger. The times make me think of my Mom saying, she was going to dig a hole and bring it in after her.

Prayer & Preparation would be the best that I could suggest.

bluefox on February 21, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Schadenfreude on February 21, 2013 at 2:37 PM

If you put the pieces together, and you know who raised the President, and I am talking Bill Ayers and the like, and go back and look at their ties and who they were linked with in the 60s and then understand Charles Manson’s theory of how to take over the country, the who of pulling the strings all makes a bit more sense, and your right, it will all be financial to start it, after that it will take its own life as far as where the other collapses and such happen. Funny thing is, I think the elites think they will be safe, but honestly I think it is those in the heartland that will actually survive it all, and the elites will find that they are not as in control as they think.

MarshFox on February 21, 2013 at 2:56 PM

Results for #hagel

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23hagel

canopfor on February 21, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Deb Fischer says she’ll vote for cloture on Hagel nom, @marieharf relays.

— Blake Hounshell (@blakehounshell) February 21, 2013

This would really surprise me. Hagel endorsed Deb Fischer’s Democrat Opponent, Bob Kerrey (D-emocrat who actually lives in NY) in the Nebraska Senate Race last year. Why would she give him a vote for cloture if he wasn’t even willing to endorse her for Senate? She must be thinking that Nebraskan’s might frown upon her not supporting a Native Son, but Hagel hasn’t lived in Nebraska since he left the Senate.

weaselyone on February 21, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Sounds like Roberts is saying it’s the voter’s fault that he can’t perform the job he was appointed to do.

bluefox on February 21, 2013 at 2:34 PM

No, what Chief Justice Roberts was saying was, it’s not the role of the Supreme Court to abrogate acts of Congress or to punish Congress for acting in it’s official capacity,…

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 2:52 PM

I thought he did just that when he struck down portions of the McCain–Feingold Act?

sharrukin on February 21, 2013 at 2:58 PM

Maybe he can work with Muslims. He seems well connected.

BL@KBIRD on February 21, 2013 at 2:59 PM

polarglen on February 21, 2013 at 2:43 PM

I’m sure many Americans never would have thought they would see their Country as it is today. What makes it worse, there is no opposition to the destruction from those that have the power to do so.

White Flags all around.

bluefox on February 21, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Mike Castle would never have allowed this.

sartana on February 21, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Sequester redux:
Hagel will be confirmed by the Senate. He will screw up within 6 months and Obama will blame Senate Republicans for confirming him.

weaselyone on February 21, 2013 at 3:02 PM

this guy’s actually gaining votes in the Senate rather than losing them.

ben ‘manti’ shapiro hardest hit.

sesquipedalian on February 21, 2013 at 3:02 PM

bluefox on February 21, 2013 at 2:41 PM

Ah, you want them ‘pitchforked’, politically, of course :)

Schadenfreude on February 21, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Of course! I was thinking more of a word for their legacy tho:-)

Oh, I see that red “Submit Comment” bar.

bluefox on February 21, 2013 at 3:04 PM

No, what Chief Justice Roberts was saying was, it’s not the role of the Supreme Court to abrogate acts of Congress or to punish Congress for acting in it’s official capacity, it’s the role of the electorate to choose more carefully who they elect to represent them.

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 2:52 PM

That’s pretty much what bluefox was talking about. Benedict Roberts was dead wrong. It’s not the role of the electorate to enforce the provisions of the Constitution. The whole point of having a Constitution is so that the elected representatives (and others) cannot violate it, no matter what the voters want or what the officials want).

And then Roberts had that historic idiocy about taxing inaction (after having found the mandate definitely NOT to be a tax so that the case could be heard at the time).

We are witness to a truly unique point in history – uniquely pathetic and destructive (self-destructive, really) … but unique all the same. Of course, this sort of point has to be unique since civilization would have been long wiped away if there had been this type of occurrence more than a couple of times …

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 21, 2013 at 3:04 PM

“He’s probably as good as we’re going to get,”

Only if the ‘good old boy’ Senate system allows it. But then, it would require some intelligent ‘advise and consent’ on the part of the Senate.

The same folks who haven’t passed a budget in 3 years.

GarandFan on February 21, 2013 at 3:04 PM

Senator Ted Cruz ‏@SenTedCruz

President Obama should withdraw Hagel’s nomination for #SecDef. He lacks the trust & confidence needed to serve: http://bit.ly/ZuEzcv
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http://www.scribd.com/doc/126612835/Letter-Requesting-President-Obama-Withdraw-Hagel-s-Nomination-for-Secretary-of-Defense

canopfor on February 21, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Ineptocrats….all of them!

can_con on February 21, 2013 at 3:06 PM

What difference, at this point, does it make?

LetsBfrank on February 21, 2013 at 3:06 PM

America is a joke on itself.

beatcanvas on February 21, 2013 at 3:07 PM

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