Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on February 21, 2013 by Allahpundit

Immigration reform’s chances in the House are looking bleaker after one of the top Republicans tasked with shepherding a bill to passage ruled out a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants.

Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-VA), chair of the Judiciary Committee that will mark up any House legislation on the issue, told NPR this week that he will not support a bill that eventually grants citizenship for the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants in America.

“People have a pathway to citizenship right now: It’s to abide by the immigration laws, and if they have a family relationship, if they have a job skill that allows them to do that, they can obtain citizenship,” Goodlatte said. “But simply someone who broke the law, came here, [to] say, ‘I’ll give you citizenship now,’ that I don’t think is going to happen.”

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Key senators are exploring an immigration bill that would force every U.S. worker—citizen or not—to carry a high-tech identity card that could use fingerprints or other personal markers to prove a person’s legal eligibility to work…

“I subscribe to the ‘if you build it, they will come’ school of regulation,” said Chris Calabrese of the American Civil Liberties Union, who said he worried that the card would be required to board airplanes, to vote or perhaps purchase a firearm. “It becomes in essence a permission slip to do all of the ordinary things that are your rights as an American,” he said.

Alex Nowrasteh, an immigration-policy expert at the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank, said: “It’s not only a gross violation of individual privacy, it’s an enormously high-cost policy that will have an incredibly low to negligible benefit.”

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“I’m not optimistic about common sense immigration reform passing this Congress,” Cruz said during a speech at the Dallas Texas Tool & Die company. “I don’t believe President Obama wants an immigration bill to pass, instead I think he wants a political issue. His objective is to push so much on the table that he forces Republicans walk away from the table because then he wants to use that issue in 2014 and 2016 as a divisive wedge issue.”…

“The president has been focusing on amnesty, a path to citizenship that skips ahead of the line,” Cruz said. “That, he knows, is a position not supported by a great many Americans and not a position that will achieve bi-partisan cooperation. It’s designed to scuttle the bill.”

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[O]n the single most important issue — instant amnesty — there is no real difference between the proposals.

Rubio calls it “probationary legal status.” Obama uses the term “lawful prospective immigrant.” But both would instantly legalize the 11 million illegal immigrants living here today. The moment either bill is signed, the 11 million become eligible for legal residence, the right to work, and relief from the prospect of deportation.

Their life in the shadows is over, which is what matters to them above all. Call the status probationary or prospective, but, in reality, it is permanent. There is no conceivable circumstance (short of criminality) under which the instant legalization would be revoked.

This is bad policy. It repeats the 1986 immigration reform that legalized (the then) 3 million while promising border enforcement — which was never carried out. Which opened the door to today’s 11 million. And to the next 11 million as soon as the ink is dry on this reform…

Regrettably, there appears to be zero political will to undertake this kind of definitive solution. Democrats have little real interest in border enforcement. They see a rising Hispanic population as the key to a permanent Democratic majority. And Republicans are so panicked by last year’s loss of the Hispanic vote by 44 points that they have conceded instant legalization, as in the Rubio proposal.

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Amnesty never shows up in polls as a top concern of Hispanics. It’s a top concern of employers, not workers — which isn’t going to do much to help Republicans shed that “Party of the Rich” image. After Reagan signed an amnesty bill in 1986, unemployment among Hispanics skyrocketed when, suddenly, there was increased competition for low-skill jobs. That’s precisely why businesses want amnesty, not because of their deep concern for the plight of the underclass…

So why do Hispanics vote Democratic? Like most legal immigrants since Teddy Kennedy’s 1965 Immigration Act, Hispanic immigrants are poor. The poverty rate of second-generation Hispanics is lower than the first — but the third generation’s poverty rate is higher than the second…

If Republicans think we can have mass amnesty for millions of government-dependent immigrants and become a more libertarian country, they’re crazy.

This isn’t because of a failure to “reach out.” Republicans can’t beat Democrats at the government assistance game. From single mothers to corporate subsidy-takers, they want your money and the Democrats promise to give it to them.

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Understanding English is supposedly a precondition for gaining U.S. citizenship. Why, then, is it even necessary for politicians to address voters in Spanish? Either their English skills are not what we have been led to believe, or they simply prefer to use Spanish. Neither possibility is reassuring.

There appears to be no similar stampede of candidates, including Hispanic politicians, beating down the doors of Chinese or Korean Berlitz schools to communicate better with their Asian constituents. The assumption is: Asians and other immigrants will learn English; Hispanics, on the other hand, need to be reached in Spanish. The relative size of the various populations is no excuse: if using someone’s native or legacy language is appropriate and respectful for one language group, why shouldn’t the practice extend to all groups?…

Pro-amnesty conservatives regularly assert that assimilation is proceeding wonderfully, because most second- and third-generation Hispanics allegedly understand English. Is Spanish spreading, then, because the arrival of even more immigrants speaking only Spanish overwhelms this progress, or because Hispanic-Americans themselves prefer Spanish? Again, neither possibility is reassuring…

Conservatives have traditionally stressed the unum rather than the pluribus in our national motto (which originally referred to the unification of the states into a single nation, not to our contemporary notion of “diversity”). If the reality on the ground looks more and more like “E pluribus duo,” shouldn’t we care?

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Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, one of a handful of Senators who have been working on bipartisan legislation on immigration, has already floated the possibility of walking away from the negotiating table if the terms of a deal aren’t acceptable. The political risks of leaving the issue unresolved are significant for a party that won just one in four Hispanic voters in 2012. If the negotiations broke off permanently, Republicans would have to quickly embark on a public relations campaign blaming Obama for making unreasonable demands and playing politics with the issue. (And, yes, that sound a lot like what Cruz is doing right now.) Winning a message battle on immigration could be complicated by some of the louder voices — Iowa Rep. Steve King, for example — who are long time opponents of any sort of immigration compromise…

Rubio — and other smart party strategists — know that if a deal can’t be reached on immigration, Republicans’ chances of winning the White House in 2016 decrease…

Given the stakes, Republicans — Cruz included — had better hope that Obama’s eye is more on building his legacy than on positioning his party politically for when he leaves office. Otherwise, the GOP could be faced with nothing but bad choices on the issue heading into the 2014 midterms and 2016 presidential election.


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Oh Fred!!

Take care. You gotta get home in one piece! God Bless :-)

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 1:38 AM

Goodnight, Fred. Have a joyous reunion with the Mrs.!

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 1:38 AM

Think I’ll walk like this for a while :-)

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 1:34 AM

Nice outfit!

KCB on February 22, 2013 at 1:38 AM

I may have asked this before, memory being what it is and all, are any of you getting no links on refresh every other or so refresh? Just all black type everywhere. No blue links.

Bmore on February 22, 2013 at 1:32 AM

No, but many times when I refresh, it takes me back to the top of the current page, rather than back to the most recent post.

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 1:37 AM

It’s them Chinese hacker I tells ya… All our bases are belong to them… o_O

SWalker on February 22, 2013 at 1:38 AM

Good Night Fred!

KCB on February 22, 2013 at 1:39 AM

I may have asked this before, memory being what it is and all, are any of you getting no links on refresh every other or so refresh? Just all black type everywhere. No blue links.

Bmore on February 22, 2013 at 1:32 AM

I think I’m getting linkes, but when I refresh it doesn’t go down to the last comment, the page goes all the way to the top or back to my last comment. It’s annoying because I’ve usually read well past that.

INC on February 22, 2013 at 1:39 AM

ANGEL

KCB on February 22, 2013 at 1:40 AM

KCB on February 22, 2013 at 1:38 AM

Lol… yeah I resembled that a long time ago!! ;-)

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 1:41 AM

Goodnight, SWalker!

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 1:41 AM

SW, any skeletons in your closet? If you want me to organize a campaign for you, might as well spill it now. We’ll try and smoothen it out a wee bit. But if you pulled a Menendez, won’t be able to help you. Those dem oppo research guys would tear you apart. ;-)

tommy71 on February 22, 2013 at 1:41 AM

Good night Governor!

KCB on February 22, 2013 at 1:41 AM

INC on February 22, 2013 at 1:39 AM

Yep, have to hit refresh twice… lol

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 1:42 AM

tommy71 on February 22, 2013 at 1:41 AM

You got any?

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 1:43 AM

you’re not going to like what I’m doing on the 1-25 Palin thread!…I’m having a one-sided conversation with your girlfriend! (only way I can do it without hurling chunks)…she went down there for attention…so I’m giving her more thoughts and attention than any one person… in the history of Hot Air!…you better start wooing her up here!

KOOLAID2 on February 22, 2013 at 12:59 AM

I just took a look… What you’re doing down there to bluegill is immoral, and I’m pretty sure it’s also illegal in some states.

RINO in Name Only on February 22, 2013 at 1:43 AM

So…

Rusty Allen on February 22, 2013 at 1:43 AM

Goin’ to the city in broad daylight!

KCB on February 22, 2013 at 1:43 AM

Good night SW!

God Bless ya :-)

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 1:44 AM

Yep, have to hit refresh twice… lol

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 1:42 AM

I guess they get twice as many hits, and we get carpal tunnel syndrome.

INC on February 22, 2013 at 1:44 AM

she talks to angels black crowes

KCB on February 22, 2013 at 1:45 AM

I’ve got plenty of skeletons

Rusty Allen on February 22, 2013 at 1:45 AM

My darn cat has gone awol, cried to be let out and now hmmm not a sight, looks like I’ll be up for a while!

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 1:45 AM

I think I’m getting linkes, but when I refresh it doesn’t go down to the last comment, the page
goes all the way to the top or back to my last comment. It’s annoying because I’ve usually read
well past that.
INC on February 22, 2013 at 1:39 AM

Depends on the device.

Thank goodness oxygen is running a House marathon. Coming off of night shifts is the worst.

tom daschle concerned on February 22, 2013 at 1:45 AM

Rusty Allen on February 22, 2013 at 1:45 AM

Me too…

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 1:46 AM

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 1:45 AM

Waiting..

KCB on February 22, 2013 at 1:46 AM

KCB on February 22, 2013 at 1:45 AM

Your link went to a HA error page lol

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 1:46 AM

@Scrumpy I’m as clean as a whistle, dear. :-)

tommy71 on February 22, 2013 at 1:47 AM

Schadenfreude on February 22, 2013 at 1:05 AM

…you ever see the pictures of the wooden bowls Bmore made?…I love handy…talented people…I hate that its not me!…KCB putting in floors…’this one’ putting up a shed with a dormer on top…’that one’ building a car from the ground up…so many talented people…and I take on projects with printed instructions and pictures saying “Approximately 20-30 minutes for assembly”…and four or six hours…a day later…I HAVE LEFT OVER SCREWS or parts…and the instructions claim…that I’m not supposed too have anything extra!
…I know I’m supposed to say I am still learning and I get great satisfaction knowing that I am trying to better my abilities to fill fulfilled in my quest to be handy…but really…I HATE YOU GUYS! (:->)…when I had “Shop” in Junior High…my dad got a lot of ashtrays! (yeah!…they started out being lamps or something else!)

KOOLAID2 on February 22, 2013 at 1:47 AM

she talks to angels black crowes

KCB on February 22, 2013 at 1:45 AM

Almost played some Black Crowes earlier. Good taste! ;)

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 1:47 AM

There are skeletons and then there are skeletons…

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 1:47 AM

Who doesn’t?

Rusty Allen on February 22, 2013 at 1:48 AM

tom daschle concerned on February 22, 2013 at 1:45 AM

Good evening, tom dc!

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 1:49 AM

Waiting..

KCB on February 22, 2013 at 1:46 AM

Hmmmmm me too! ;-)

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 1:49 AM

I just took a look… What you’re doing down there to bluegill is immoral, and I’m pretty sure it’s also illegal in some states.

RINO in Name Only on February 22, 2013 at 1:43 AM

…yes…but I had a condom on!

KOOLAID2 on February 22, 2013 at 1:49 AM

My skeletons don’t admit their skeletons.

Rusty Allen on February 22, 2013 at 1:50 AM

Good evening, tom dc!

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 1:49 AM

Evening Grace 8D

tom daschle concerned on February 22, 2013 at 1:51 AM

Rusty Allen on February 22, 2013 at 1:50 AM

Mine have duct tape over their gaping jaws!

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 1:51 AM

Howdy Tom!

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 1:51 AM

KOOLAID2 on February 22, 2013 at 1:49 AM

Now I got to go seeeeeeeeeeee!! ;-)

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 1:52 AM

A little Warren Z

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 1:53 AM

You guys eating already? Dang, I’m just halfway through my cooking, and I can hear my stomach growling. :-)

tommy71 on February 22, 2013 at 1:53 AM

Glade song.

KCB on February 22, 2013 at 1:53 AM

KOOLAID2 on February 22, 2013 at 1:49 AM

Actually it’s probably best to not joke about that stuff – it’s my fault, I was going for an “animal cruelty” thing and it looks like it came out wrong.

RINO in Name Only on February 22, 2013 at 1:54 AM

Howdy Tom!

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 1:51 AM

What’s up, What’s up, What’s up.

You in OK(guessing from the link in your nom)? If so, how bad was snowmageddon in your area? We got 6″ here. Didn’t have to work today, so it was nice to just enjoy it.

tom daschle concerned on February 22, 2013 at 1:54 AM

Good night Hot Air.

KCB on February 22, 2013 at 1:59 AM

tom, hows your back? What did the doc finally say? All healed up as yet, or is it a process?

tommy71 on February 22, 2013 at 2:00 AM

Our skeletons should hang out.

Rusty Allen on February 22, 2013 at 2:00 AM

‘Night, Ken. Sweet dreams to you.

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 2:01 AM

You leaving, Ken? Good night to you, dude. Sleep well.

tommy71 on February 22, 2013 at 2:01 AM

tom daschle concerned on February 22, 2013 at 1:54 AM

Not a sprinkle, cold windy cloudy and rain… OKC got snow and quite a bit!! Amazing what 100 miles can do!

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 2:01 AM

KCB on February 22, 2013 at 1:59 AM

Good night Ken, don’t know why The Black Crowes link didn’t work for me :-( God Bless!!

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 2:02 AM

Rusty Allen on February 22, 2013 at 2:00 AM

My skellies are in seclusion, locked away…

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 2:04 AM

Scrumpy still hunting for tigger? ;-)

tommy71 on February 22, 2013 at 2:04 AM

tommy71 on February 22, 2013 at 2:04 AM
Yes!!

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 2:05 AM

Uriah Heep: July Morning

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 2:06 AM

Ok he just came back!…

Now I am beyond sleep!

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 2:06 AM

Good Night KCB, Sleep Well.

Bmore on February 22, 2013 at 2:06 AM

Lol

tommy71 on February 22, 2013 at 2:06 AM

Ok he just came back!…

Now I am beyond sleep!

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 2:06 AM

I waited..

KCB on February 22, 2013 at 2:07 AM

Nite, Chrissy. Sleep well.

tommy71 on February 22, 2013 at 2:08 AM

tommy71 on February 22, 2013 at 2:00 AM

It has been rough. Living on max doses of narcotics. Corticosteroid shot next week, then surgery in about 5 weeks. Don’t ask why it is taking so long. I don’t get it. In the meantime it pretty much sucks.

tom daschle concerned on February 22, 2013 at 2:08 AM

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 2:06 AM

Could have made you Sarah. ; )

Bmore on February 22, 2013 at 2:10 AM

KCB on February 22, 2013 at 2:07 AM

Ken!! Waited for what?

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 2:10 AM

tommy71 on February 22, 2013 at 2:08 AM

Not gone yet!

Unless you want me gone…

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 2:11 AM

Goodnight, Scrumpy! Goodnight, Tigger!

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 2:11 AM

Jeez tom, another 5 weeks for surgery and in the mean time, narcotics? Dude, this sounds very serious. I feel bad for you. You’ll be in my prayers.

tommy71 on February 22, 2013 at 2:12 AM

tom daschle concerned on February 22, 2013 at 2:08 AM

Am keeping you in my prayers for a good and speedy recovery…

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 2:12 AM

Bmore on February 22, 2013 at 2:10 AM

Haha. I was a bit slow catching your meaning.

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 2:13 AM

Never want Chrissy gone. You KNOW that by now. lol

tommy71 on February 22, 2013 at 2:13 AM

Good Night All.

Bmore on February 22, 2013 at 2:14 AM

Rusty did you pop off again?

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 2:14 AM

Haha. I was a bit slow catching your meaning.

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 2:13 AM

Might do it yet. Lol! ; )

Bmore on February 22, 2013 at 2:14 AM

Bmore on February 22, 2013 at 2:14 AM

Good night B! Dream up more pics!!

God Bless :-)

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 2:15 AM

Not gone yet!

Unless you want me gone…

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 2:11 AM

Sorry, Scrump! I think we all interpreted your statement to mean you were off to bed.

Welcome back!! Lolz

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 2:15 AM

I waited..

KCB on February 22, 2013 at 2:07 AM

I got it!! Lol… Jeez am I behind the 8 ball or somthing!! ;-)

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 2:16 AM

tom daschle concerned on February 22, 2013 at 2:08 AM

Am keeping you in my prayers for a good and speedy recovery…

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 2:12 AM

And more prayers from Texas, too!

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 2:17 AM

4Grace, you and I seem to have the same thing, a slow mind!!

Maybe it was the chocolate?

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 2:17 AM

*lights up a cig. Looking around to see if big brother is watching*

tommy71 on February 22, 2013 at 2:18 AM

Goodnight, Mr. Bmore! Always a pleasure to see you.

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 2:19 AM

4Grace, you and I seem to have the same thing, a slow mind!!

Maybe it was the chocolate?

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 2:17 AM

Bwahahaaa. Unfortunately for me, I never made it to the Snickers bar. So, I have no excuse.

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 2:21 AM

lol…

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 2:23 AM

Foods getting done faster than usual. Magic!

tommy71 on February 22, 2013 at 2:24 AM

Just to go ON TOPIC here for a moment (lol). The dems will always move the goalposts. If we cave on immigration, it’s on to gun control, minimum wage, carbon taxes…

It will not end and it will not garner us this massive bloc of new Repub voters. Drives me batty, it does.

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 2:24 AM

I guess it is time to go…

Yawn…

Always good to be here…

God bless you T and Rusty and 4grace!!

Nite nite!!

*swoosh*

Scrumpy on February 22, 2013 at 2:26 AM

Night

Rusty Allen on February 22, 2013 at 2:28 AM

Goodnight to you, Scrumpy!

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 2:28 AM

I get the feeling that CIR is already done. Its just kabuki now. Going through the motions. Thats why I hardly comment on it. Looking on, we’ll have to resist gun control and climate change legislation.

tommy71 on February 22, 2013 at 2:28 AM

Nite Chrissy. Sleep well, dear.

tommy71 on February 22, 2013 at 2:29 AM

tommy71 on February 22, 2013 at 2:28 AM

Yep, and minimum wage ($50 per hour!!), and probably Fairness Doctrine, and all sorts of lovely departmental decrees.

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 2:32 AM

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 2:24 AM

Appeasing tyrants and totalitarians at all levels doesn’t work.

INC on February 22, 2013 at 2:33 AM

tommy71 on February 22, 2013 at 2:28 AM

Were you here for the 2007 amnesty push?

INC on February 22, 2013 at 2:35 AM

Just to go ON TOPIC here for a moment (lol). The dems will always move the goalposts. If we cave on immigration, it’s on to gun control, minimum wage, carbon taxes…

It will not end and it will not garner us this massive bloc of new Repub voters. Drives me batty, it does.

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 2:24 AM

The democrats and the treasonous media have kept the narrative at a fever pitch for the last four years. They keep the intensity level up and demand that something be done, because we are in a crisis!. It is an Alinsky tactic to overload and wear down the opposition. They are remaking America, and nothing short of armed action at this point is going to stop it. Every institution is being basterdized and undermined. THe corruption is so pervasive, it may be impossible to reverse.

The most frustrating thing to me is this ignorant and perverse population. People can’t be bothered to be informed in this age where information is so instantly available. People choose to remain ignorant. They are also actively voting for people to punish their opposition. The basest human functions are driving a majority of the voting population.

Unless God extends a period of grace to us, I foresee open persecution of everyone who does not tote the party line. The country is ripe for revolution.

tom daschle concerned on February 22, 2013 at 2:35 AM

Appeasing tyrants and totalitarians at all levels doesn’t work.

INC on February 22, 2013 at 2:33 AM

Nope. Never has, never will. But try telling that to our running-scared, gotta-nab-all-those-MSM-watching-moderates “conservatives” that are representing us so well.

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 2:36 AM

What the President really wants is climate change legislation to go through. Go through his speeches, and you’ll notice that when he speaks about climate change, he truly gets passionate. Thats the biggest worry for me. Cos that’ll be an economy killer.

tommy71 on February 22, 2013 at 2:36 AM

@INC No, I wasn’t. But I get what you’re trying to say.

tommy71 on February 22, 2013 at 2:40 AM

tom daschle concerned on February 22, 2013 at 2:35 AM

I particularly agree with your first paragraph. Why do our so-called representatives fall for this??? Why not counter attack by calling out the Left on their tactics, their overall plan? Instead, our side hops dutifully from artificial crisis to artificial crisis.

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 2:41 AM

I’m not saying that will happen again, but don’t give up yet.

INC on February 22, 2013 at 2:42 AM

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 2:41 AM

The Dems have an ideology to which their leaders hold steady.

The R’s certainly have a very conservative philosophy in the party platform, but the leaders don’t hold to it because they don’t believe it.

It’s easier to be corrupted than to withstand the lure of power and money.

INC on February 22, 2013 at 2:44 AM

tommy71 on February 22, 2013 at 2:36 AM

Yes, if he succeeds at major climate change legislation/decree, the effects will be very similar to OCare, IMO. The range and depth of invasion into our daily lives (and pocketbooks) would increase yet again.

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 2:44 AM

The Dems also can appeal to weaknesses like fear and insecurity. It’s easier to lie and stir up a mob, then it is to lead responsibly and encourage people that the game is worth the candle.

INC on February 22, 2013 at 2:46 AM

The R’s certainly have a very conservative philosophy in the party platform, but the leaders don’t hold to it because they don’t believe it.

It’s easier to be corrupted than to withstand the lure of power and money.

INC on February 22, 2013 at 2:44 AM

Agreed, with one addition. Many of our leaders don’t hold conservative ideas. Others may hold them, but the desire to be LIKED can override even the desire for power/money in some.

4Grace on February 22, 2013 at 2:47 AM

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