Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on February 21, 2013 by Allahpundit

Immigration reform’s chances in the House are looking bleaker after one of the top Republicans tasked with shepherding a bill to passage ruled out a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants.

Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-VA), chair of the Judiciary Committee that will mark up any House legislation on the issue, told NPR this week that he will not support a bill that eventually grants citizenship for the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants in America.

“People have a pathway to citizenship right now: It’s to abide by the immigration laws, and if they have a family relationship, if they have a job skill that allows them to do that, they can obtain citizenship,” Goodlatte said. “But simply someone who broke the law, came here, [to] say, ‘I’ll give you citizenship now,’ that I don’t think is going to happen.”

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Key senators are exploring an immigration bill that would force every U.S. worker—citizen or not—to carry a high-tech identity card that could use fingerprints or other personal markers to prove a person’s legal eligibility to work…

“I subscribe to the ‘if you build it, they will come’ school of regulation,” said Chris Calabrese of the American Civil Liberties Union, who said he worried that the card would be required to board airplanes, to vote or perhaps purchase a firearm. “It becomes in essence a permission slip to do all of the ordinary things that are your rights as an American,” he said.

Alex Nowrasteh, an immigration-policy expert at the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank, said: “It’s not only a gross violation of individual privacy, it’s an enormously high-cost policy that will have an incredibly low to negligible benefit.”

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“I’m not optimistic about common sense immigration reform passing this Congress,” Cruz said during a speech at the Dallas Texas Tool & Die company. “I don’t believe President Obama wants an immigration bill to pass, instead I think he wants a political issue. His objective is to push so much on the table that he forces Republicans walk away from the table because then he wants to use that issue in 2014 and 2016 as a divisive wedge issue.”…

“The president has been focusing on amnesty, a path to citizenship that skips ahead of the line,” Cruz said. “That, he knows, is a position not supported by a great many Americans and not a position that will achieve bi-partisan cooperation. It’s designed to scuttle the bill.”

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[O]n the single most important issue — instant amnesty — there is no real difference between the proposals.

Rubio calls it “probationary legal status.” Obama uses the term “lawful prospective immigrant.” But both would instantly legalize the 11 million illegal immigrants living here today. The moment either bill is signed, the 11 million become eligible for legal residence, the right to work, and relief from the prospect of deportation.

Their life in the shadows is over, which is what matters to them above all. Call the status probationary or prospective, but, in reality, it is permanent. There is no conceivable circumstance (short of criminality) under which the instant legalization would be revoked.

This is bad policy. It repeats the 1986 immigration reform that legalized (the then) 3 million while promising border enforcement — which was never carried out. Which opened the door to today’s 11 million. And to the next 11 million as soon as the ink is dry on this reform…

Regrettably, there appears to be zero political will to undertake this kind of definitive solution. Democrats have little real interest in border enforcement. They see a rising Hispanic population as the key to a permanent Democratic majority. And Republicans are so panicked by last year’s loss of the Hispanic vote by 44 points that they have conceded instant legalization, as in the Rubio proposal.

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Amnesty never shows up in polls as a top concern of Hispanics. It’s a top concern of employers, not workers — which isn’t going to do much to help Republicans shed that “Party of the Rich” image. After Reagan signed an amnesty bill in 1986, unemployment among Hispanics skyrocketed when, suddenly, there was increased competition for low-skill jobs. That’s precisely why businesses want amnesty, not because of their deep concern for the plight of the underclass…

So why do Hispanics vote Democratic? Like most legal immigrants since Teddy Kennedy’s 1965 Immigration Act, Hispanic immigrants are poor. The poverty rate of second-generation Hispanics is lower than the first — but the third generation’s poverty rate is higher than the second…

If Republicans think we can have mass amnesty for millions of government-dependent immigrants and become a more libertarian country, they’re crazy.

This isn’t because of a failure to “reach out.” Republicans can’t beat Democrats at the government assistance game. From single mothers to corporate subsidy-takers, they want your money and the Democrats promise to give it to them.

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Understanding English is supposedly a precondition for gaining U.S. citizenship. Why, then, is it even necessary for politicians to address voters in Spanish? Either their English skills are not what we have been led to believe, or they simply prefer to use Spanish. Neither possibility is reassuring.

There appears to be no similar stampede of candidates, including Hispanic politicians, beating down the doors of Chinese or Korean Berlitz schools to communicate better with their Asian constituents. The assumption is: Asians and other immigrants will learn English; Hispanics, on the other hand, need to be reached in Spanish. The relative size of the various populations is no excuse: if using someone’s native or legacy language is appropriate and respectful for one language group, why shouldn’t the practice extend to all groups?…

Pro-amnesty conservatives regularly assert that assimilation is proceeding wonderfully, because most second- and third-generation Hispanics allegedly understand English. Is Spanish spreading, then, because the arrival of even more immigrants speaking only Spanish overwhelms this progress, or because Hispanic-Americans themselves prefer Spanish? Again, neither possibility is reassuring…

Conservatives have traditionally stressed the unum rather than the pluribus in our national motto (which originally referred to the unification of the states into a single nation, not to our contemporary notion of “diversity”). If the reality on the ground looks more and more like “E pluribus duo,” shouldn’t we care?

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Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, one of a handful of Senators who have been working on bipartisan legislation on immigration, has already floated the possibility of walking away from the negotiating table if the terms of a deal aren’t acceptable. The political risks of leaving the issue unresolved are significant for a party that won just one in four Hispanic voters in 2012. If the negotiations broke off permanently, Republicans would have to quickly embark on a public relations campaign blaming Obama for making unreasonable demands and playing politics with the issue. (And, yes, that sound a lot like what Cruz is doing right now.) Winning a message battle on immigration could be complicated by some of the louder voices — Iowa Rep. Steve King, for example — who are long time opponents of any sort of immigration compromise…

Rubio — and other smart party strategists — know that if a deal can’t be reached on immigration, Republicans’ chances of winning the White House in 2016 decrease…

Given the stakes, Republicans — Cruz included — had better hope that Obama’s eye is more on building his legacy than on positioning his party politically for when he leaves office. Otherwise, the GOP could be faced with nothing but bad choices on the issue heading into the 2014 midterms and 2016 presidential election.


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What’s wrong with these people????

Sherman1864 on February 21, 2013 at 10:08 PM

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 10:43 PM

First tentatively

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Oops! Wrong Quote?

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 10:43 PM

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Good evening Ken, how do you do it?

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Hi Chrissy. It’s luck!

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Just us? ;-)

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Hey

Rusty Allen on February 21, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Rubio knew it wouldn’t pass the House. Which is why he went out on a limb. Cue from Obama: it’s all posturing. Look good on the simple stuff for moron low-information voters, and cruise on in to the nomination.

John the Libertarian on February 21, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Evening Rusty!

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 10:47 PM

…“I don’t believe President Obama wants an immigration bill to pass, instead I think he wants a political issue. His objective is to push so much on the table that he forces Republicans walk away from the table because then he wants to use that issue in 2014 and 2016 as a divisive wedge issue.”…

The whole point behind everything 0 does…

Comede cacas et mori liberales spumae

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 10:49 PM

John the Libertarian on February 21, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Lots of kabuki in that town….Good Evening John!

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Hiya Rusty!

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Im sorry, how many latino legislators and governors are gop vs dem

This boondoggle won’t bring folks in

cmsinaz on February 21, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Howdy John !

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 10:50 PM

This isn’t because of a failure to “reach out.” Republicans can’t beat Democrats at the government assistance game. From single mothers to corporate subsidy-takers, they want your money and the Democrats promise to give it to them.

Truth.

Curtiss on February 21, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Exactly! Every issue. Same thing.

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Schadenfreude, are you here yet?

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 10:50 PM

The Stupid Party..

A double barrel shot gun is all you need..

Electrongod on February 21, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Hi cms!

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Good evening Bmore and EG!

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Schadenfreude, are you here yet?

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Whatsamatta? Can’t talk to us?

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Hey scrumpy

cmsinaz on February 21, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Hi Curtiss

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 10:53 PM

The Stupid Party..

A double barrel shot gun is all you need..

Electrongod on February 21, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Blast it in the air sometimes. Sloe Joe calls it target practice.

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 10:53 PM

I hate that word “reform” when used in regards to illegals. It’s not “reform” they’re talking about, it’s amnesty, reward for breaking our laws.

Bishop on February 21, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Evening Scrumpy! ; )

Whatsamatta? Can’t talk to us?

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Of course I can, I have something to give Schadenfreude, a photoshop he asked me to do. I haven’t seen him since earlier. Just letting him know I was here. ; )

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 10:53 PM

I’m catching up on Greta and Rand Paul is talking about the Gov’t studies on Goldfish – and how they respond to…blah, blah.

Am I crazy to be, not excited, but hopefull, that Paul Jr may be a viable conservative that I can support?

ccrosby on February 21, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Hi Bishop and CC!!

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 10:53 PM

*clink!*

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 10:55 PM

ccrosby on February 21, 2013 at 10:54 PM

No, you are not :-)

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Evening All!!

Am I crazy to be, not excited, but hopefull, that Paul Jr may be a viable conservative that I can support?

ccrosby on February 21, 2013 at 10:54 PM

I have my fingers crossed. Also watching Cruz and Walker!

CoffeeLover on February 21, 2013 at 10:55 PM

John the Libertarian on February 21, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Lots of kabuki in that town….Good Evening John!

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Nothing that a couple thousand feet of some good old fashioned Stout Hemp Rope and a few thousand gallons of 91 octane couldn’t fix in a single evening.

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 10:56 PM

ccrosby on February 21, 2013 at 10:54 PM

It’s a long way out, but I’m liking him.

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 10:57 PM

This isn’t the one for Schadenfreude, but rather a part in a series, 0 Ruin. I have about a dozen of them so far. Always in the same suit with the red tie. Thereby insuring that the R’s get the blame for all his good works. What do you think?

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 10:57 PM

…Evening us!…Everyone!

KOOLAID2 on February 21, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Nothing that a couple thousand feet of some good old fashioned Stout Hemp Rope and a few thousand gallons of 91 octane couldn’t fix in a single evening.

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 10:56 PM

That does it! I want to party with you!

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 10:58 PM

KCB, *clink!*

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Hello CoffeeL and SW!!

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 10:58 PM

KA2 !! Hello!

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Nothing that a couple thousand feet of some good old fashioned Stout Hemp Rope and a few thousand gallons of 91 octane couldn’t fix in a single evening.

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 10:56 PM

And not that Ethanol crap either!

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 10:58 PM

This is bad policy. It repeats the 1986 immigration reform that legalized (the then) 3 million while promising border enforcement — which was never carried out. Which opened the door to today’s 11 million. And to the next 11 million as soon as the ink is dry on this reform…

Very true. Nothing has changed since 1986. Democrats still lie and Republicans are still squishes. In 1986 the “official estimate” of illegal aliens in the country was 300k. 11 million has been the “official estimate” for as long as any of us can remember.

3 million in 1986. 11-20 million in 2013. How many million illegal aliens will there be in the next “comprehensive immigration reform”: 40 million, 50 million, 60 million? The likely answer: every uneducated, non-productive individual Mexico doesn’t want.

bw222 on February 21, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Hey Kool, I’m working on a series from up in your neck of the woods. See the above link, let me know if you think its worth a series.

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 10:59 PM

KA2!

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 10:59 PM

*clink * to all

cmsinaz on February 21, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Love it! You are quite talented!

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Nothing that a couple thousand feet of some good old fashioned Stout Hemp Rope and a few thousand gallons of 91 octane couldn’t fix in a single evening.

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 10:56 PM

That does it! I want to party with you!

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Funny thing, rumor has it I am a genuine riot at a party… ;p

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 11:00 PM

. What do you think?

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 10:57 PM

…I think it’s the White House kitchen…before Mooch went on vacation!

KOOLAID2 on February 21, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Evening All!!

CoffeeLover on February 21, 2013 at 10:55 PM

That’s all I read…

*clink*

Electrongod on February 21, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Hello CoffeeL and SW!!

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Good evening Scrumpilucious… ;)

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 11:01 PM

bw222 good evening!

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Nothing that a couple thousand feet of some good old fashioned Stout Hemp Rope and a few thousand gallons of 91 octane couldn’t fix in a single evening.

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 10:56 PM

And not that Ethanol crap either!

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Ethanol is for drinking… In moderation of course, not for painting the town red… ;p

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 11:03 PM

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Party Hearty!!

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 10:57 PM

I like!

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 11:04 PM

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Party Hearty!!

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 11:03 PM

ROTFLMAO… the local Red NeckCocktail” circuit all have me on speed dial…;p

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 11:05 PM

*Clink*~~

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Amnesty is suicide.

El_Terrible on February 21, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Nothing that a couple thousand feet of some good old fashioned Stout Hemp Rope and a few thousand gallons of 91 octane couldn’t fix in a single evening.

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 10:56 PM

And not that Ethanol crap either!

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Is that a true quote? Good Lord! I knew there was a reason I supported him from the land of make believe (CA for those of you still wondering).

ccrosby on February 21, 2013 at 11:07 PM

I added another. 0 Theatre

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Greetings.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 21, 2013 at 11:08 PM

If there’s one thing the GOP needs to do between now and 2016 its stop amnesty. Taxes, spending, can be undone, amnesty is forever.

El_Terrible on February 21, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Anyhow, they are all somewhat the same, 0 standing in front of ruins.

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 11:09 PM

On the Border

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 11:08 PM

You are on a roll!! Loving them!!

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Different categories of course, church, manufacturing, music etc………………

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Greetings.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 21, 2013 at 11:08 PM</blockquote

Greetings….

Electrongod on February 21, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Anyhow, they are all somewhat the same, 0 standing in front of ruins.

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Admiring his own handy work…

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Howdy! ALT!!

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Hi Barb!

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Admiring his own handy work…

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Yep, and most importantly placing the blame on the R’s, hence that red tie.

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 11:12 PM

ccrosby on February 21, 2013 at 11:07 PM

SWalker isn’t that S. Walker. He is our SWalker and we are keeping him, although there was a rumor a few nights ago that he would run for office in CA. See tommy71.

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Allahpundit!

Serious Canadian concern about Hot Air from your loyal canadian readers. (I believe I can speak for Canopfor on this one).

What the heck is going on with your Banner ads at the top of the page? For the past week, I have had to see ads for the LIBERAL PARTY of Canada candidate Martha Hall Findley.

Do you guys buy a package of ads or is it run through an ad service that displays IP range specific Ads? Would be nice if you could remove those ads from the package if you have a choice.

I live all day in a Liberal Land, and HotGas is where I get away from it. Thanks for your consideration in advance. Eh~

can_con on February 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Won’t be here long. gotta get up @ 3AM.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 21, 2013 at 11:14 PM

There’s a storm coming.

wolly4321 on February 21, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Hiya wolly!

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 11:16 PM

If this can’t make the QOTD, some one’s asleep at the wheel.

For the First Time in My Life, I Am Ashamed of My Country
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/02/21/for_the_first_time_in_my_life_i_am_ashamed_of_my_country

Rovin on February 21, 2013 at 11:16 PM

can_con on February 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Adblock mi Canadian amigo.

El_Terrible on February 21, 2013 at 11:17 PM

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 10:57 PM

B: The 2nd one needs a vial of nitro glycerin teetering on the edge of the cabinets.

Fred

jrsrigmvr on February 21, 2013 at 11:18 PM

I added a couple of more. I have to tweak them all a bit. They change when I convert file formats.

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 11:18 PM

There’s a storm coming.

wolly4321 on February 21, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Damned right there is…

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Rovin on February 21, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Sadly Hot Air has chosen not to post anything yet about this one.

I’ve been harping on these “cuts” for months. Since when in a decrease in the proposed increase in spending a cut.

can_con on February 21, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 10:57 PM

The ruins are from Detroit, are they not? I think I recognize the theater.

Good work!

PatriotGal2257 on February 21, 2013 at 11:19 PM

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Duh, thanks…I keep getting calls & emails from Walker & Kleifisch (sp?) so I automatically went there.

If he’s running in CA I may be able to help, let me know.

ccrosby on February 21, 2013 at 11:20 PM

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 11:18 PM

They look good there… :-)

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 11:20 PM

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 10:57 PM

And the grand piano in what was a hotel ballroom.

Sad, sad.

PatriotGal2257 on February 21, 2013 at 11:20 PM

can_con on February 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Adblock mi Canadian amigo.

El_Terrible on February 21, 2013 at 11:17 PM

Thanks Amigo, I run no-script, but I will give that one a try too.

Still burns me just for the principle of it!

can_con on February 21, 2013 at 11:21 PM

I’m fashionably late tonight but I shall try to be fashionably early in the future since it’s too late to fashionably early in the past.

SparkPlug on February 21, 2013 at 11:21 PM

There’s a storm coming.

wolly4321 on February 21, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Why are you going to get more snow.

RickB on February 21, 2013 at 11:21 PM

.Good Evening John!

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Evening! Sorry, I’m late on the up-tick. Got a 7-year-old angel who demands my full attention.

John the Libertarian on February 21, 2013 at 11:22 PM

Won’t be here long. gotta get up @ 3AM.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 21, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Sleep is overrated.

TXUS on February 21, 2013 at 11:22 PM

Howdy John !

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Hey there, Scrump! Guess I shouldn’t be such a tease on QOTD, but have a handful of good lovin’ of darlin’ sunshine taking up every spare second. “Daddy! Daddy, daddy, daddy…!”

John the Libertarian on February 21, 2013 at 11:23 PM

Hiya RB Sparky and TX!

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 11:23 PM

If he’s running in CA I may be able to help, let me know.

ccrosby on February 21, 2013 at 11:20 PM

While running for Gov. of California is something that I just might be crazy enough to try, I’m not sure even California is crazy enough to seriously consider electing me. o_O

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 11:25 PM

John the Libertarian on February 21, 2013 at 11:23 PM

That’s beautiful! Enjoy every second!!

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 11:25 PM

Evening! Sorry, I’m late on the up-tick. Got a 7-year-old angel who demands my full attention.

John the Libertarian on February 21, 2013 at 11:22 PM

You are blessed! My Angel grew up on me….Still my Angel though.

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 11:25 PM

I was going to ask Bish if it was too late to dig. But he’s never seen me with a shovel so it would be speculation. Some of us got a later start, younger with less resources saved up. Shallower bunkers. Less ammo.

When the time comes, I pray we stick together.

It’s coming. This jackass kenyan set it up to bring the pain, and blame us for it for political gain.

wolly4321 on February 21, 2013 at 11:26 PM

I’m fashionably late tonight but I shall try to be fashionably early in the future since it’s too late to fashionably early in the past.

SparkPlug on February 21, 2013 at 11:21 PM

Oh boulder pucky… I have always been fashionable early long after I was fashionable late… o_O

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 11:26 PM

Well it seems like on balance y’all like the series, so each night I’ll upload some different ones. Appreciate all the feedback. ; ) Uptwinkles.

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 11:26 PM

the card would be required to board airplanes, to vote or perhaps purchase a firearm

I guess they could ban the sale of firearms to non-citizens in the US and require the card to determine citizenship. Same with voting. It might be a necessary thing.

I’m pretty sure I heard that the Obama justice department made it easier for non citizens in the US to get firearms. That seems like a strange thing to do for someone who wants to disarm US citizens, but I think I remember that happening a few years ago. Some steps were waived, or something.

Buddahpundit on February 21, 2013 at 11:26 PM

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Hi Bmore, haven’t said Hi in a while, hope you are well.

ccrosby on February 21, 2013 at 11:27 PM

SWalker on February 21, 2013 at 11:25 PM

You can do it!!

Scrumpy on February 21, 2013 at 11:27 PM

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