Universal Studios resort to cancel health insurance for part-time employees

posted at 8:41 am on February 20, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Just another sign of progress for the underemployed!  Thanks to the beneficence of ObamaCare, thousands of part-time workers in Florida will become free … free of their employer-provided health care, that is. Universal Studios Orlando had offered health insurance to part-time employees until this year, but will no longer do so thanks to the added costs and mandates of the ACA:

Universal Orlando plans to stop offering medical insurance to part-time employees beginning next year, a move the resort says has been forced by the federal government’s health-care overhaul.

The giant theme-park resort, which generates more than $1 billion in annual revenue, began informing employees this month that it will offer health-insurance to part-timers “only until December 31, 2013.”

And why will those plans be cancelled?  Because they don’t meet the ObamaCare/IRS standard, even though are certainly better than nothing at all:

The reason: Universal currently offers part-time workers a limited insurance plan that has low premiums but also caps the payout of benefits. For instance, Universal’s plan costs about $18 a week for employee-only coverage but covers only a maximum of $5,000 a year toward hospital stays. There are similar caps for other services.

Those types of insurance plans — sometimes referred to as “mini-med” plans — will no longer be permitted under the federal Affordable Care Act. Beginning in 2014, the law will prohibit insurance plans that impose annual monetary limits on essential medical care such, as hospitalization, or on overall spending.

That’s about $936 a year in premiums, a little steep for a mini-med program but not a bad backstop otherwise, depending on the caps and coverage for “other services.”  Employees with other coverage through family members might have liked it for secondary or emergency support, and those with no other coverage at all would have had at least some coverage for unpleasant surprises.  Anyone who thought the plan didn’t work at that price could have gone elsewhere.

Now, they’ll have to buy full comprehensive coverage in the ObamaCare “exchanges,” and now we’ll have to pay a lot more than $936 a year to each of them in federal subsidies for those purchases.  It’s going to get more expensive for everyone, including those part-time workers who may have been happy enough with the mini-med coverage.


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Progress….

itsspideyman on February 20, 2013 at 8:46 AM

Unexpectedly?

Washington Nearsider on February 20, 2013 at 8:46 AM

FORWARD!!!

Thanks Chief Justice Roberts!!!!

Agent of the Cross on February 20, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Surprised that the article failed to mention that Universal Studios is owned by the same people who hired David Astroturf as a pundit on their cable newser propaganda machine yesterday. C’mon, HotGas… you’re letting us down.

Myron Falwell on February 20, 2013 at 8:48 AM

How come progressivism looks like tyrannical regressivism?

Hasn’t all this crap failed 100x in history?

tom daschle concerned on February 20, 2013 at 8:49 AM

Universal Studios, eh? A division of NBC Universal which last time I checked was one of the biggest Obama buttsniffers around. I guess it’s another case of “do as I say, don’t do as I do” from the libs.

Doughboy on February 20, 2013 at 8:49 AM

And yet the only place you’ll hear about it is in the conservative blogosphere. To the extent it’s ever mentioned in the news that most of the country watches it will doubtless be spun as part of some evil GOP plot.

It’s truly the root of all other problems that the voters of this great nation are for the most part fed a full ration of BS for their news. On a level battle field the progs would bleed out on every issue.

SoRight on February 20, 2013 at 8:51 AM

This isn’t a huge problem and could be fixed easily if the government just ran the whole economy.

Dusty on February 20, 2013 at 8:51 AM

*drinks coffee*

BigGator5 on February 20, 2013 at 8:51 AM

The constant interference of the feds into private contracts and arrangements is antithetical to the concept of a free people.

“Mandate” is a word which NEVER should be uttered in the esteemsd halls of government.

But, we do nothing.

Organize the refuseniks!

FOWG1 on February 20, 2013 at 8:52 AM

Yike! *esteemed*.

FOWG1 on February 20, 2013 at 8:53 AM

All part of the plan to get people to demand a nazional healthcare system.

rbj on February 20, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Clearly this is the work of Voldermort.

Or Obama.

…Both? I dunno. But we should blame Republicans.

Gatsu on February 20, 2013 at 8:55 AM

*farts*

KOOLAID2 on February 20, 2013 at 8:58 AM

*scratches*

Fallon on February 20, 2013 at 8:59 AM

All part of the plan to get people to demand a nazional healthcare system.

rbj on February 20, 2013 at 8:53 AM

This. They always knew it was going to take more than one step to accomplish. And further “fixes” obviously require further government intervention to save the people.

The beast grows.

NickelAndDime on February 20, 2013 at 9:00 AM

Another reason that we should have skipped Obama-care and gone straight to a mixed single-payer/private suplement plan like Australia.

Mini-med plans are essentially theft.

urban elitist on February 20, 2013 at 9:02 AM

Hasn’t all this crap failed 100x in history?

tom daschle concerned on February 20, 2013 at 8:49 AM

Yeah, but there’s usually a “round the body count off to the nearest million” stage of progressive collectivism before it collapses.

forest on February 20, 2013 at 9:06 AM

Plenty more of these stories coming.After awhile they will become mundane.

docflash on February 20, 2013 at 9:06 AM

The “mini med” plans are quite popular in specific industries.
hotels, restaurants,fast food, ect..
Fl will be hit very hard and all other places with a tourist industry in play.

Yep-they are going away. I have a few clients that offer these plans in lieu of nothing at all. A lower paid employee population can usually afford these plans and the employer doesn’t have to make any contribution. The employees as noted,do not have to be full time either for election. They do not meet OBcare criteria so-bye bye.
They still exist now only due to the waivers issued after McDonald’s and other companies started screaming after O’shite care passed.
Those insurance co’s and hospitality industry make up the majority of waivers on the list.

The tentacles of this monstrosity is going to touch just about damn everything. You got the IRS,DOL,and HHS, in knots..still providing “guidance” and defining.

Another fun one here…lots of seasonal employees…what to do with them? Nice formula they are setting up to define full time vs. part time. good times a comin’

bazil9 on February 20, 2013 at 9:07 AM

Wonder what Comcast’s MSNBC will say about this outrageous outrage perpetrated by Comcast’s Universal Studios-Orlando?

jon1979 on February 20, 2013 at 9:08 AM

Mini-med plans are essentially theft.

urban elitist on February 20, 2013 at 9:02 AM

Yes, because acts of theft always include a voluntary exchange or transaction. Your ignorance is exhausting.

SoRight on February 20, 2013 at 9:08 AM

Mini-med plans are essentially theft.

urban elitist on February 20, 2013 at 9:02 AM

…but government forcing me to make purchases and give them my own hard-earned cash is morally upright. Gotcha.

Douchebag libwit.

gryphon202 on February 20, 2013 at 9:11 AM

Isn’t there ANY way now to be rid of this thing?

Cleombrotus on February 20, 2013 at 9:11 AM

All working as planned…..

Soon there will be no choice, it will be a “crisis” as people have no insurance and will need a white knight to save them……

……and his name will be OBAMA, and he will ride in on his trusty steed FEDGOV

And the Media will swoooooooon. And open up a JIHAD against anyone that dares to oppose the white knight.

PappyD61 on February 20, 2013 at 9:12 AM

Yeah baby
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cmsinaz on February 20, 2013 at 9:13 AM

***

Mini-med plans are essentially theft.

urban elitist on February 20, 2013 at 9:02 AM

And dividend payments to shareholders steal money from employees, right?

Oy.

BuckeyeSam on February 20, 2013 at 9:14 AM

Yes, because acts of theft always include a voluntary exchange or transaction. Your ignorance is exhausting.

SoRight on February 20, 2013 at 9:08 AM

Between administrative costs and benefit limits, mini-med plans so heavily weighted against the patient that they serve very little. They’re a vehicle to strip poor people of what little they have on extremely unfavorable terms.

…but government forcing me to make purchases and give them my own hard-earned cash is morally upright. Gotcha.

Douchebag libwit.

gryphon202 on February 20, 2013 at 9:11 AM

That’s why I felt so bad about the government forcing me to purchase a stupid, pointless and botched war in Iraq.

In the real world, governments tax.

urban elitist on February 20, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Wonder what Comcast’s MSNBC will say about this outrageous outrage perpetrated by Comcast’s Universal Studios-Orlando?

jon1979 on February 20, 2013 at 9:08 AM

I’m sure they’ll let the crickets to the talking.

ROCnPhilly on February 20, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Isn’t there ANY way now to be rid of this thing?

Cleombrotus on February 20, 2013 at 9:11 AM

Yeah, but voters blew their chance this past November.

BuckeyeSam on February 20, 2013 at 9:16 AM

For instance, Universal’s plan costs about $18 a week for employee-only coverage but covers only a maximum of $5,000 a year toward hospital stays. There are similar caps for other services.

In other words, it’s insurance coverage for those without the means to afford real, adequate healthcare coverage. I’ve seen pet insurance policies with limits higher than $5,000. It’s good to know how much Universal values it’s employees. In reality, people need insurance to protect them from major medical problems that require extended hospitalization or other long-term treatment, not the annual check up or antibiotics for step throat.

The fact that lower income, part-time employees of Universal have no access to adequate healthcare coverage signals how broken the US system has become, despite the massive % of GDP dedicated to healthcare in the US compared to other countries that provide far better outcomes, such as Germany.

bayam on February 20, 2013 at 9:17 AM

The 2 Americas… There is the “hey, I voted for Obama – OMG!!!” And there is the real world

drivingtheview on February 20, 2013 at 9:19 AM

The fact that lower income, part-time employees of Universal have no access to adequate healthcare coverage signals how broken the US system has become, despite the massive % of GDP dedicated to healthcare in the US compared to other countries that provide far better outcomes, such as Germany.

bayam on February 20, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Likely that part time service workers will be eligible for Medicaid once Medicaid once income limits rise.

urban elitist on February 20, 2013 at 9:21 AM

I love that pic.

The hippie doctor is my favorite.

Ben Hur on February 20, 2013 at 9:22 AM

Ever notice how the libiots here always defer to government.

They are julia.

cozmo on February 20, 2013 at 9:23 AM

The fact that lower income, part-time employees of Universal have no access to adequate healthcare coverage
bayam on February 20, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Yeah..the 20 yr old chick selling cotton candy has no access to buying her own private plan.

Even if Universal in this case, paid half the premium for a major med plan for those employees- the employees check would be basically paying for health ins.

Going back to the problem in the 1st damn place…the soaring cost of healthcare…which Bammy care didn’t address.
Good-now people can have 2 part time jobs and no ER offering-wade through the exchange.

bazil9 on February 20, 2013 at 9:26 AM

*yawns*

tommy71 on February 20, 2013 at 9:26 AM

Remember that the Obergruppenführer promised if we liked our coverage we could keep it, so I’m sure none of these folks liked theirs (otherwise the law would be a bad one, right?).

Rufus on February 20, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Universal Studios will be given an opt-out from Obamascare just like the other 100+ companies that worship this wack.

Cherokee on February 20, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Government has never been able to compete with private enterprise…everyone knows this…but facts do not matter…it’s an amazing world/country…

right2bright on February 20, 2013 at 9:28 AM

“Fundamentally transforming the United States of America”… sucks, big time.

Obama has taken a vibrant health insurance industry, gutted it and thrown health care into disarray.

Thanks Obama voters. You’re an easily manipulated, envious and lazy little whining bunch. You have fallen for the “fairness” of spreading misery under the guise that it “don’t cost nothin’.” The quality of our health care will slowly be strangled to death by bureaucratic red tape and rationed by government controls. It would be okay if this only applied to you but now, it will apply to generation after generation of Americans, unless by some miracle we can turn this around.

Fallon on February 20, 2013 at 9:28 AM

The fact that lower income, part-time employees of Universal have no access to adequate healthcare coverage Cadillacs, Caviar, and vacations in the Bahamas signals how broken the US system has become…

bayam on February 20, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Tell me why my version is flawed but yours is not.

Cleombrotus on February 20, 2013 at 9:28 AM

The hippie doctor is my favorite.

Ben Hur on February 20, 2013 at 9:22 AM

Everyone was handed a white coat to wear in order to trick the public into thinking all doctors everywhere support the government’s healthcare coup. That guy is probably a stoner photographer taken from the press pool.

ROCnPhilly on February 20, 2013 at 9:29 AM

Crisis averted; Obama has promised to speak at the next Disney employee picnic. He will sing a verse from a Sam Cooke standard and tell jokes about rich old white guys. Then he will do a local interview with the editor of the “What’s Happening at Disney Weekly”

drivingtheview on February 20, 2013 at 9:30 AM

So now the employees are forced into Government Health Control. Since it’s the best thing ever, what’s the problem?

ROCnPhilly on February 20, 2013 at 9:32 AM

We built a country, dams, power grid, roads, bridges, hospitals, schools, 90% of what we have as infrastructure, built by families where there was, primarily, one working head of household and minimum taxes…fighting 2 world wars and numerous other major skirmishes…and we didn’t go bankrupt, our families were “more together”, out of wedlock child birth low, graduation high…all on one salary.

Then the “Great Society” came along…and it ain’t so great anymore.

right2bright on February 20, 2013 at 9:32 AM

The fact that lower income, part-time employees of Universal have no access to adequate healthcare coverage signals how broken the US system has become, despite the massive % of GDP dedicated to healthcare in the US compared to other countries that provide far better outcomes, such as Germany.

bayam on February 20, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Communist scum low IQ and slave of the state… What part of they cancelled their part time employees insurance because of Obamacare your little liberal brain cannot understand? These employees have had insurance and now because of Obamacare they would not have it anymore… Many more companies to follow… In other word as it was always expected by any person with an IQ over 90 and not a left wing lunatic Obamacare destroy people lives…

mnjg on February 20, 2013 at 9:33 AM

Likely that part time service workers will be eligible for Medicaid once Medicaid once income limits rise.

urban elitist on February 20, 2013 at 9:21 AM

Communist scum low IQ and slave of the state… These part time employees have had private service paid by a private company but now you want them to be on Medicaid paid by the tax payers…

mnjg on February 20, 2013 at 9:35 AM

The fact that lower income, part-time employees of Universal have no access to adequate healthcare coverage
bayam

Liar. If young adults that work part time at universal can pay $70 a month for this mini-med plan, they can pay $70 a month(or less) for a full blown health insurance plan in the private market that offers much better coverage…or at least they could have.

xblade on February 20, 2013 at 9:41 AM

In other words, it’s insurance coverage for those without the means to afford real, adequate healthcare coverage.

bayam on February 20, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Why not mandate that Universal has to pay them enough to be able to have the “means to afford real, adequate healthcare coverage”?

I mean, it makes as much economic sense as your proposal and will result in exactly the same thing.

But it makes you feel good in your moral superiority and that’s all that matters, right?

Cleombrotus on February 20, 2013 at 9:44 AM

Likely that part time service workers will be eligible for Medicaid once Medicaid once income limits rise.

urban elitist on February 20, 2013 at 9:21 AM

A woefully underfunded program being expanded by borrowed money is not a lasting solution. And I suggest you try it out sometime to see how well it works. My in-laws were on it and had to keep going to the ER as they couldn’t get a doctor.

Chuck Schick on February 20, 2013 at 9:46 AM

…but government forcing me to make purchases and give them my own hard-earned cash is morally upright. Gotcha.

Douchebag libwit.

gryphon202 on February 20, 2013 at 9:11 AM

That’s why I felt so bad about the government forcing me to purchase a stupid, pointless and botched war in Iraq.

In the real world, governments tax.

urban elitist on February 20, 2013 at 9:16 AM

And in my world, the government didn’t pick pockets before 1913 and the passage of the second amendment. But I wouldn’t count on you libwits to have such a sense of history, or for that matter to know what “enumerated proportional taxation” means. I happen to be for repeal of the sixteenth amendment for precisely that reason. ;)

gryphon202 on February 20, 2013 at 9:49 AM

And in my world, the government didn’t pick pockets before 1913 and the passage of the second sixteenth amendment. But I wouldn’t count on you libwits to have such a sense of history, or for that matter to know what “enumerated proportional taxation” means. I happen to be for repeal of the sixteenth amendment for precisely that reason. ;)

gryphon202 on February 20, 2013 at 9:49 AM

FIFM

gryphon202 on February 20, 2013 at 9:49 AM

In the real world, governments tax.

urban elitist on February 20, 2013 at 9:16 AM

And worth mentioning as well, your pet cause is morally upright, but mine is not? How in God’s name do you make such a determination, libwit? I could go on and on for hours about what a waste of American lives and money the Iraq war was, but you wouldn’t want to hear my solution to that problem.

Okay, I’ll tell you anyway. We should have carpet bombed the shit out of Baghdad like we did Berlin in WWII. Drop flyers in Arabic, Farsi, and Kurdish warning the locals and giving them 48 hours to clear out. But that’s right, you and your ilk are so morally superior to me. It’s okay for you to forcefully take money from me if it’s done for what you believe are all the right reasons.

gryphon202 on February 20, 2013 at 9:52 AM

In other words, it’s insurance coverage for those without the means to afford real, adequate healthcare coverage. I’ve seen pet insurance policies with limits higher than $5,000. It’s good to know how much Universal values it’s employees. In reality, people need insurance to protect them from major medical problems that require extended hospitalization or other long-term treatment, not the annual check up or antibiotics for step throat.

The CHEAPEST ObamaCare plan will be $20k for a family of 4, and that still has a $8600 deductible, co-pays and then only covers 60% thereafter. And the exchange subsidies only apply to the cost of an individual plan, which is typically 1/3 the cost of a family policy.

How is that better?

The fact that lower income, part-time employees of Universal have no access to adequate healthcare coverage signals how broken the US system has become, despite the massive % of GDP dedicated to healthcare in the US compared to other countries that provide far better outcomes, such as Germany.

bayam on February 20, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Germany’s health care system is deep in the red as is France. And ObamaCare works nothing like what they’re doing in Europe anyway, so I’m not sure why you keep comparing them.

All Germans have to pay 15.5% payroll taxes to fund their system. If you guys want to propose a tax hike like that on the poor and middle class, please go right ahead.

Chuck Schick on February 20, 2013 at 9:54 AM

‘If you like your insurance company, you can keep your insurance company!’

GarandFan on February 20, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Make no mistake. This is not an unintended consequence, it is by design. The ultimate goal is for there to be no health insurance provider other than the federal government. Removing private insurance plans from the marketplace, bit by bit, is the first step.

Shump on February 20, 2013 at 9:59 AM

When the law fully kicks in you cannot be denied insurance for Pre-existing conditions. So why pay for the insurance until you get hurt or sick? DUH!

devan95 on February 20, 2013 at 10:00 AM

‘If you like your insurance company, you can keep your insurance company!’

GarandFan on February 20, 2013 at 9:56 AM

This Universal Studios debacle is proof-positive that in at least this instance, not only is Obamacare not having its promised effects, it is having the opposite of its promised effects. I don’t understand what the libwits here have to gain by peddling the same old tired and provably false propaganda.

gryphon202 on February 20, 2013 at 10:00 AM

What the trolls here do not still understand………

These are Part Time employees
and under Obamacare they still are not eligible
for coverage if they are at 29 hours or less.
That is WHY companies are slashing hours to the magic #
to avoid offering coverage and the tax penalty.

The mini-med plan was an option for those PT people.
Now they have no payroll deducted option at all. Get it?

bazil9 on February 20, 2013 at 10:01 AM

For the people that do shell out more money they will want to get their money’s worth which means they will consume more healthcare.

Wigglesworth on February 20, 2013 at 10:01 AM

I’m looking forward to a nice duck dinner when AFLAC goes belly up! LOL

devan95 on February 20, 2013 at 10:03 AM

That’s why I felt so bad about the government forcing me to purchase a stupid, pointless and botched war in Iraq.

In the real world, governments tax.

urban elitist on February 20, 2013 at 9:16 AM

My favorite liberal retort.

“You idiots never even bothered to tax us for the war we hated!”

Chuck Schick on February 20, 2013 at 10:04 AM

When the law fully kicks in you cannot be denied insurance for Pre-existing conditions. So why pay for the insurance until you get hurt or sick? DUH!

devan95 on February 20, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Well duh! Exactamundo.

bazil9 on February 20, 2013 at 10:04 AM

I’m looking forward to a nice duck dinner when AFLAC goes belly up! LOL

devan95 on February 20, 2013 at 10:03 AM

I always did hate those commercials.

gryphon202 on February 20, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Make no mistake. This is not an unintended consequence, it is by design. The ultimate goal is for there to be no health insurance provider other than the federal government. Removing private insurance plans from the marketplace, bit by bit, is the first step.

Shump on February 20, 2013 at 9:59 AM

What’s happening is these companies will be like your electric utility company in a few years.

Wigglesworth on February 20, 2013 at 10:06 AM

There is no medical system anywhere who does what the US system does – no where – it does more screenings, has better survival rates from serious illnesses than even wonderful Germany. Bayam – you are just stupid – not ignorant, but stupid. You read a WHO report that talks nothing to the general poor health of the US due to our own stupid decisions and accept at face value the infant mortality rates that other countries publish that hide the unpleasant reality.

Saying this in no way discounts the issues our system faces. It is expensive. Partly from subsidizing every govt sponsored program throughout the world that do not pay their own freight for the drug, devise and procedure research that brings the medical miracles to them.

ANd yes – for $70/month you can easily (well no longer – Obamacare is driving those rates up by at least 20% now) comprehensive coverage. Bought some for my son a year ago. Included drug coverage.

So Bayam and Urban Elite – I pity your small mind and your stupidity on health care. You know nothing, you state outrate falsehoods. No democrat in the US has any idea what they have unleashed. It is going to bad – and despite the GOP misteps – will so tick off the population they run to GOP arms – and not because they have deserved it. Just because the democrats were that stupid.

Zomcon JEM on February 20, 2013 at 10:14 AM

All part of the plan to get people to demand a nazional healthcare system.

rbj on February 20, 2013 at 8:53 AM

The fly in the ointment: This is asking the same dummies who wrote 0bamacare to write the single-payer plan. The immiseration was supposed to happen far enough in the future that you can convince the malinformed masses that the current crop of liberal philosopher-kings are much wiser than the ones who wrote 0bamacare.

Sekhmet on February 20, 2013 at 10:16 AM

The US counts in infant mortality statistics anything that was born and breathed at least once. This kid would have been left to die and not counted against Britain’s infant mortality, were it not for a pair of scissors.

The US is also a center for fertility treatments that occasionally produce multiple pregnancies, which often necessitate risky premature births.

Sekhmet on February 20, 2013 at 10:21 AM

That’s why I felt so bad about the government forcing me to purchase a stupid, pointless and botched war in Iraq.

In the real world, governments tax.

urban elitist on February 20, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Low IQ communist scum… We won the War In Iraq because of the Surge that you traitros including your parasite class President opposed…

mnjg on February 20, 2013 at 10:22 AM

Good grief! How can it be that we are under the rule of people with the mentality of bayam and urban elitist?

Cleombrotus on February 20, 2013 at 10:27 AM

That’s why I felt so bad about the government forcing me to purchase a stupid, pointless and botched war in Iraq.

In the real world, governments tax.

urban elitist on February 20, 2013 at 9:16 AM

I meant it when I said that your ignorance is exhausting and I can’t explain why I (or others here) continue to hope that you’ll learn, but here goes . . .

You are angry that the government spent your money on a war you opposed, but it’s the government so outside of elections you were powerless to avoid the expenditure.

You think minimeds are bad, so you are WELCOME to NOT SPEND YOUR MONEY ON THEM. Nobody in this country ever HAD TO spend their money on a minimed, but millions did so voluntarily because in spite of your beliefs, THEY decided that the plan was worth purchasing FOR THEM.

And yet, you choose to move MORE things into the category of the Iraq war — purchases you’ll HAVE to make that you don’t WANT to make, but I would choose to move as much as possible into the category of voluntary transactions in the free market.

Seriously, how can you not understand this, except that you imagine that BO will be President forever and that the government will never make edicts you disagree with. Cause I assume you’re on board with Obama’s wars, right?

SoRight on February 20, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Okay, so do we boycott them, or not? They’re putting profits before people, so that’s bad. But they’re supporters of the one, so that’s good, right? Which way do we go here?

Help me out, willya?

Bob's Kid on February 20, 2013 at 10:38 AM

The fact that lower income, part-time employees of Universal have no access to adequate healthcare coverage signals how broken the US system has become, despite the massive % of GDP dedicated to healthcare in the US compared to other countries that provide far better outcomes, such as Germany.

bayam on February 20, 2013 at 9:17 AM

I love how idiot leftists continue to idolize the countries that are discovering how much of a failure the policies actually are.

If you love Germany so much, move there. Don’t try and make us more like Germany to suit you. We are not Germany. Most of us don’t want to be Germany.

Also, the one big thing lefties fail to comprehend, is that once the U.S. is no longer spending money on R&D (which will happen under obamacare and other socialist ideas), nobody will be spending money on R&D and the advances in medicine/pharmacology will stop. The U.S. has driven that train forward because we are the only nation left in the west allowing profit margins in new drugs/new technologies. Once we get rid of that (as all leftist ideas require), where do you think investment into new drugs/technologies will come from? Oh, I know, the same unicorn that will solve our financial problems by “taxing the rich” more.

Idiot. The left – can’t do honest, math, or common sense. But somehow, it will all work out when Gov’t is in control of everything.

Monkeytoe on February 20, 2013 at 10:44 AM

Okay, so do we boycott them, or not? They’re putting profits before people, so that’s bad. But they’re supporters of the one, so that’s good, right? Which way do we go here?

Help me out, willya?

Bob’s Kid on February 20, 2013 at 10:38 AM

You aren’t paying attention. If you give vocal support to leftism, you can get away with any transgression there is. Hollywood has been doing this for years, as they use every tax break in the book, film in locations with low taxes, film in locations with lower wages, and live opulent, high-carbon footprint lifestyles, treat woman and minorities like garbage, yet are “good liberals” because they say the right things.

on the left, actions don’t matter. Words do.

Monkeytoe on February 20, 2013 at 10:46 AM

I love that pic.

The hippie doctor is my favorite.

Ben Hur on February 20, 2013 at 9:22 AM

Oh, him? Doctor Bigtooth Ponytail?

That picture has bothered me since its first appearance. Not that there was any shortage of genuine MD’s who supported Barky, but somehow, I doubt that those two actually are Doctors. Call it intuition, or else simply having learned that pretty much everything Barky’s People do is crooked and rigged and staged.

I’d like to know the identities of those two “poster children”. Everything in a white coat isn’t a Doctor. (“Hey, we never said they were Doctors…”)

bofh on February 20, 2013 at 10:48 AM

Own it, Democrats! Elections have consequences.

GoodAg77 on February 20, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Ah, the “doctors” applauding another Obamacare failure. Thank you for administering my favorite fix.

Chuckles3 on February 20, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Gee, that list of companies Libs are boycotting is getting longer and longer and longer!

Poor libs. Own it!

can_con on February 20, 2013 at 11:03 AM

You aren’t paying attention. If you give vocal support to leftism, you can get away with any transgression there is. Hollywood has been doing this for years, as they use every tax break in the book, film in locations with low taxes, film in locations with lower wages, and live opulent, high-carbon footprint lifestyles, treat woman and minorities like garbage, yet are “good liberals” because they say the right things.

on the left, actions don’t matter. Words do.

Monkeytoe on February 20, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Most excellent post… The biggest enemies of the Republic are the Limousine Liberals as they are vastly more powerful than you average democrat parasite voters…

mnjg on February 20, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Mini-med plans are essentially theft.
urban elitist on February 20, 2013 at 9:02 AM

So you are saying that anyone who chose to participate in a mini-med plan was being ripped off anyway, and they are just being saved from themselves? Government knows best after all. Is that what we should tell anyone who has lost a job because of Obamacare and not just an insurance option? Yep, don’t worry. Government knows best. And that Medicaid option you think is going to help? The Obamacare health insurance tax hits some of the most vulnerable people, including poor people in Medicaid managed care plans and seniors in Medicaid advantage plans. Individuals on Medicaid managed care will see increase costs on an average of $1,530 per enrollee between 2014 and 2023. This is helpful?

lynncgb on February 20, 2013 at 11:17 AM

Oh – and this will really float Bayam and UE’s boat – here is what is coming!

Exchanges – when and if they get built – won’t be around in 2014 unless the govt quits trying to control them – so it will be a two year wait at least. And then the lawsuit coming to the IRS on the subsidy payments for states with a fed exchange. Nothing is being done except in Utah which has had an exchange marketplace in place and is trying to get the feds to agree to their way it will run – like all good statists, the libs in DC have zero interest in letting go. Ask Indiana about that, especially if the state program works.

So you will have these exchanges – every option will be more expensive than today – every one. There will be private insurer options and public options. The private will be the more expensive of the two – but it will act similar to what you have today if you are in medium to large or govt employer plan, or are wealthy. You will however pay more for it – and don’t count on any help from your employer when he dumps you into the exchanges. Most companies will keep most of the savings to pay the taxes for Obamacare – based upon todays taxes, and realize the HHS Secretary can create more and at what level they will be dumping into the exchange will still cost companies close to $4K a year based upon what we know now. The other plan, the public plan, will act like an expanded medicaid – long waits to even see a doctor, long waits for tests,essentially everything you don’t want – a long list of benefits, but no one to make sure you get them very fast. Oh, and these public plans along with Medicare will utilize the infamous death panels that will decide based upon your age, health status and ailment needing treatment will decide whether to try and cure you or just make you comfortable until you die.

For all you egalitarians who say we ration now based upon dollars, I would suggest nothing has changed. Those will dollars will still get treatment, those with less will get less. But now there will be more getting less and it will all cost more money for everybody.
What a great system!

A**holes!

Zomcon JEM on February 20, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Own it, Democrats! Elections have consequences.

GoodAg77 on February 20, 2013 at 10:54 AM

They’ll still blame BOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSHHHH and those Wascally Obstwwctioniwwst Wepubwicans. Or claim that Obama hasn’t had enough time to get it to work right.

Three things Socialists do not possess: humility, empathy, and the ability to consider the possibility they could be wrong.

Myron Falwell on February 20, 2013 at 11:29 AM

“If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.”

Barack Obama on Tuesday, August 11th, 2009 in a town hall meeting

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/aug/11/barack-obama/barack-obama-promises-you-can-keep-your-health-ins/

patch on February 20, 2013 at 11:30 AM

That’s Comcast, an Obama front group, that is canceling it’s part time employee’s health care.

OxyCon on February 20, 2013 at 12:04 PM

who may have been happy enough with the mini-med coverage.

I call these plans the get sick and go Bankrupt plans. Bankruptcy and thus sticking it to everyone else is your only option if you get really sick.

But ObamaCare is hardly the right solution.

The real solution would be to admit that some treatments are simply too expensive to afford. But no one will have that conversation. So Obama Care just uses Death Panels the worst possible way to make the determination of what cost too much.

Steveangell on February 20, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Another reason that we should have skipped Obama-care and gone straight to a mixed single-payer/private suplement plan like Australia.

Mini-med plans are essentially theft.

urban elitist on February 20, 2013 at 9:02 AM

Or perhaps you could have minded your own damn business and left me to work it out with my doctor and insurance company. We were just fine without your help. We said we didn’t want your help. And now your help has cost me both.

That’s right. My company can no longer afford to offer the blue cross blue shield option. The cost, with the new requirements that I will never use (don’t need pregnancy coverage or pap smears or contraception but they are now requirements regardless) was simply prohibitive. So now I’m stuck with a high deductible plan that doesn’t pay a dime until I’ve paid the first $6500. And I still have to pay the premiums.

Also, my doctor, not an old man, is calling it quits. He came to America to practice because he couldn’t deal with the bureacracy in Canada.

So I can’t keep my plan and I can’t keep my doctor. Just as I said I wouldn’t be able to before you shoved this crap down my throat.

Stop helping me. Or I will make you stop helping me. Is that clear enough?

runawayyyy on February 20, 2013 at 5:01 PM

I love that pic.

The hippie doctor is my favorite.

Ben Hur on February 20, 2013 at 9:22 AM

They’re not doctors, they are “Nurse Practicioners” and “Death Panelists”.

Let’s face it, the hubris of democrats, burdened by their innate vanity is running into an inconvenient truth of economics.

And economics will win.

virgo on February 21, 2013 at 12:19 AM