Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on February 20, 2013 by Allahpundit

Why should RINOs hang their heads in shame and be relegated to the fringes of their party? The party is the fringe. Isn’t it time to reclaim the salt lick? RINOs need to be defiantly proud, aggressively centrist and unapologetically sane.

There are a couple of obstacles to this obvious course. First, sane people are too busy Being Normal to organize. No, “normal” is not a relative term. We all know what normal is, and it doesn’t involve carrying gigantic photos of aborted fetuses to political conventions. For example.

[W]hat has become glaringly clear is that RINOs need to stop being so normal and grant their better angels a sabbatical. Forget taking back the country. Start by taking back your party. Do it for your country.

RINOs: The Strong. The Proud. The Many.

***

Why is Rush Limbaugh batting one for six in presidential races? Why is Fox News one for five? Perhaps it is because two decades later, what many of us once considered to be an important balance to left-wing media bias have become the only outlets conservative politicians and thought leaders consider legitimate. That has proven to be a terrible calculation.

This assumption has now become so widespread on the right that any news analysis or media poll that runs counter to Republican interests is dismissed by the right as biased and irrelevant. This mindset took firm hold in 2012 so that the echo chamber syndrome that once made fools of left has now come back to undermine the right. Not only does this approach distort political reality by only reinforcing pre-existing worldviews, it also stifles intellectual debate inside the party. This in turn creates the kind of stale political environment that has been criticized of late by conservative thought leaders like Bill Kristol, John Podhoretz and Pete Wehner. Mr. Wehner wrote a column today in “Commentary” calling for the “intellectual unfreezing” of the right.

Conservatives should celebrate the gains they have made in the media world over the past two decades. But their greatest challenge moving forward is to begin breaking down the walls they have built that keeps them locked inside a comfort zone that distorts political reality and cedes great advantages to Democratic candidates. What conservatives must do instead is dare to think different, apply eternal truths to current realities and then start spreading their gospel of conservatism to the swing voters who have rejected them in five of six presidential races.

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The other point that the reaction to my Rush comments proves is that conservatives continue to view criticism (even the constructive kind) through a lens of ideological suspicion. Even though I defended conservative principles as right, strong and popular, and explicitly said this isn’t about casting strident conservatives out of the party but reworking our messaging, Rush’s fans still decided that my conservatism was discredited. Disagreeing with him, or merely offering that we should feel comfortable disagreeing with party leaders now and then, suddenly made me an untrustworthy, sell-out liberal.

I care deeply about the conservative movement, which is why I regularly put myself in a position to defend it in hostile territory, on liberal media outlets where I am usually outnumbered. It’s why I am my party’s biggest cheerleader when our leaders do the right thing. And it’s why I travel the country telling as many people as possible why conservative policies are better for them than liberal ones.

But it’s also why I risk friends and fans by calling out Republican elected officials, operatives like Karl Rove, the Republican National Committee, and conservative pundits when necessary. It’s no profile in courage, but merely common sense. We’ll never win credibility with new voters if we insist everything that every conservative says or does should be defended and justified.

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In the states, the Republican focus on cost containment and efficiency works best when it is combined with a commitment to providing high-quality government services and an understanding that government can and should be useful. Republican governors’ talk about improving their states’ governments contrasts with national Republican rhetoric, which tends to cast government as an impediment to freedom and growth.

Such a balanced approach is the reason that New Jersey Governor Chris Christie has approval ratings in the 70s, or that governors like John Kasich in Ohio and Susana Martinez in New Mexico did the math and accepted Medicaid expansion funds that will benefit their constituents, instead of dying on the hill of opposition to Obamacare.

***

Why would Glenn Beck or the other right-wing talkers be impressed with a guy like Chris Christie? Hell, he only cut business taxes by $2.6 billion and created 100,000 new jobs over two years in his one state. Oh, yeah. He is also the first pro-life governor to serve in New Jersey since Roe v. Wade passed in 1973.

Why would any member of the Conservative Entertainment Complex want anything to do with a RINO who carries around that kind of conservative record in a blue state that hasn’t gone Republican in a presidential contest in 25 years?…

Glenn Beck must be infuriated. Why, this Chris Christie character has created a new kind of gender gap in this Democratic state that has him actually winning the female vote by 23 percent. Numbers like that have to enrage talkers like Glenn Beck, who have spent most of their adult lives working to make women voters run AWAY from the Republican Party faster than you can say “government-sanctioned vaginal probe.”

Why would Glenn Beck or any self-described conservative like Chris Christie?

***

Like Rubio, Christie is being touted as a candidate for the GOP presidential nomination in 2016. But the Garden State’s tough-guy governor, whose combativeness once drove me to call him a chest-beating “bully,” is no phony. And unlike Rubio, he’s also not a rabid right-winger.

For all of his bluster, Christie has modeled a kind of bipartisanship that has won him the highest approval rating of any governor in the country. He now enjoys the support of nearly half of the Democrats in New Jersey — a state whose voters backed the Democratic nominee in each of the past six presidential elections…

Christie … is betting the American people have tired of the intransigence of the political right and left. He’s hoping that in a tug of war, mainstream Republicans will regain control of the GOP presidential candidate selection process and clear the way for him to become the party’s standard-bearer in 2016. Christie is a greater threat than Rubio to chip away at the coalition that twice hoisted Obama into the White House.

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Today’s Republicans are very good at tending the fire of Ronald Reagan’s memory but not nearly as good at learning from his successes. They slavishly adhere to the economic program that Reagan developed to meet the challenges of the late 1970s and early 1980s, ignoring the fact that he largely overcame those challenges, and now we have new ones. It’s because Republicans have not moved on from that time that Senators Marco Rubio and Rand Paul, in their responses to the State of the Union address last week, offered so few new ideas…

Conservatives should retain their skepticism about government intervention, the preference for letting markets direct economic resources and the zeal for ending government-created barriers to economic growth that they inherited from Reagan. In his first Inaugural Address, Reagan famously said that “government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.” The less famous yet crucial beginning of that sentence was “in our present crisis.” The question is whether conservatism revives by attending to today’s conditions, or becomes something withered and dead.

***

Last night, Glenn appeared on The O’Reilly Factor and discussed the influence that the Tea Party will have in the country moving forward and the continuing struggle between the establishment GOP and advocates for small government.

In the interview, Glenn told O’Reilly that he was done dealing with the big government establishment GOP, and that they have betrayed their values for too long. Glenn said that the GOP have worked against the Tea Party for too long…

Glenn did not agree with the trend for some in the GOP to become more “moderate” on issues, and said the most moderate position would be to cut spending.


***

This is why I cannot take the RINOs any more ladies and gentlemen. I cannot take the Republicans anymore. And I will be absolutely straight with you. If I believed that a third party would be viable, if I believed a third party wouldn’t elect generation after generation of Barack Obamas and Nancy Pelosis and Harry Reids, I’d go third party. I really would. But I can’t. Because I know what that will do.

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Goodnight Bmore, Fred, trollfish.

RINO in Name Only on February 21, 2013 at 2:48 AM

Oh,….almost forgot. Governor Jellyfish Scott. May have to rework this. Its far to pretty. Turns out he is an ugly man. Very disappointing.

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 2:49 AM

blah blah blah… were often called the nastiest names, in part because they wouldn’t go along with bluegill…!!! blah blah blah!!!

bluegill on February 21, 2013 at 2:16 AM

…you are an hilarious hypocrite!

KOOLAID2 on February 21, 2013 at 2:49 AM

What thread did these comments come from? Neither of the comments you quoted appear in this thread, and Cindy went to sleep over an hour ago.
Were you just trying to find a way to work Palin into the discussion?
RINO in Name Only on February 21, 2013 at 2:42 AM

Second to last page of Romney thread.

It is my hope that we can express our different opinions in a respectful way on here.

bluegill on February 21, 2013 at 2:50 AM

bluegill on February 21, 2013 at 2:16 AM

What thread did these comments come from? Neither of the comments you quoted appear in this thread, and Cindy went to sleep over an hour ago.

Were you just trying to find a way to work Palin into the discussion?

RINO in Name Only on February 21, 2013 at 2:42 AM

Absolutely spot on.

SparkPlug on February 21, 2013 at 2:51 AM

Some of you people attack in packs, as a bunch of rabid wolves would, whenever someone expresses a different opinion. That may be something you guys can work on.

bluegill on February 21, 2013 at 2:51 AM

So let’s all kiss and make up and sleep soundly. Thank you, and good night.

bluegill on February 21, 2013 at 2:52 AM

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 2:49 AM

I’m going to have nightmares after that.

Scott will be hearing from me. Fortunately, I don’t think it’s a unilateral decision. The legislature has to approve it. Both the Speaker and the Senate President issued statements. The Speaker’s was the best, and the SP was more like wait and see.

More testing the waters before they decide which is the principal of the day.

INC on February 21, 2013 at 2:57 AM

It is my hope that we can express our different opinions in a respectful way on here.

bluegill on February 21, 2013 at 2:50 AM

Some of you people attack in packs, as a bunch of rabid wolves would, whenever someone expresses a different opinion. That may be something you guys can work on.

bluegill on February 21, 2013 at 2:51 AM

….I’m working on it!

*grunts*
.
.
*grimaces*
.
.
*FARTS*…!

KOOLAID2 on February 21, 2013 at 2:58 AM

…ICK…!!!

KOOLAID2 on February 21, 2013 at 3:00 AM

Absolutely spot on.

SparkPlug on February 21, 2013 at 2:51 AM

Honestly, she could have easily done it more directly – people were talking about who to nominate for president in 2016 – that topic is ripe for a “I do hope Palin’s cultists don’t somehow get that ignorant hillbilly nominated” rant.

RINO in Name Only on February 21, 2013 at 3:01 AM

SOURCES FOR THIS SCREED:
The Washington Post
Politico
Bloomberg

They praise the RINOs.
Allahpundit just neatly organizes and presents it to you.

Czar of Defenestration on February 21, 2013 at 3:03 AM

Hmmm, I probably shouldn’t be giving her tips on how to hijack threads.

RINO in Name Only on February 21, 2013 at 3:05 AM

bluegill

PALIN
FOR
PRESIDENT

KOOLAID2 on February 21, 2013 at 3:14 AM

PALIN
FOR
PRESIDENT

KOOLAID2 on February 21, 2013 at 3:14 AM

DITTO THAT

SparkPlug on February 21, 2013 at 3:29 AM

PALIN
FOR
PRESIDENT

KOOLAID2 on February 21, 2013 at 3:14 AM

DITTO THAT

SparkPlug on February 21, 2013 at 3:29 AM

5555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555!

TheAlamos on February 21, 2013 at 3:54 AM

PALIN
FOR
PRESIDENT

KOOLAID2 on February 21, 2013 at 3:14 AM

Let’s be serious.

To choose from we potentially have candidates like Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Scott Walker, Bobby Jindal and others, and do you want to go with the woman who can barely speak in complete sentences and who can’t even finish one term in office without quitting? If you don’t mind, I would prefer we not have a nominee who is almost universally regarded as a gimmicky joke. Nothing against Sarah Palin, as she is a fine woman who is right on many issues, but she is not presidential material.

bluegill on February 21, 2013 at 3:59 AM

Today’s Republicans are very good at tending the fire of Ronald Reagan’s memory but not nearly as good at learning from his successes. They slavishly adhere to the economic program that Reagan developed to meet the challenges of the late 1970s and early 1980s, ignoring the fact that he largely overcame those challenges, and now we have new ones.

Yeah, 21 million new jobs and massive economic growth wouldn’t do us much good these days. Those old ideas of economic freedom and individual liberty are pretty boring I suppose.

It’s because Republicans have not moved on from that time that Senators Marco Rubio and Rand Paul, in their responses to the State of the Union address last week, offered so few new ideas…

Obama’s taxing and spending ideas are so fresh and forward looking. I’ve got an idea: how about we take steps to save this country and avoid total economic collapse?

TarheelBen on February 21, 2013 at 4:04 AM

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 2:49 AM

Not bad!

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 4:34 AM

Let’s be serious.

To choose from we potentially have candidates like Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Scott Walker, Bobby Jindal and others, and do you want to go with the woman who can barely speak in complete sentences and who can’t even finish one term in office without quitting? If you don’t mind, I would prefer we not have a nominee who is almost universally regarded as a gimmicky joke. Nothing against Sarah Palin, as she is a fine woman who is right on many issues, but she is not presidential material.

bluegill on February 21, 2013 at 3:59 AM

Nothing against her..I just go nucking futs when her name is mentioned, so kinda don’t? O.K./

KCB on February 21, 2013 at 4:37 AM

some of the Romney cultist bash Palin to mask the pain of mitts failures and the realization that mitt isn’t a deity.

SparkPlug on February 21, 2013 at 5:07 AM

Quitt Romney ran a not so hot campaign.

To bad Quitt Romney quit by being lazy and not taking it to jug ears.

SparkPlug on February 21, 2013 at 5:09 AM

so msdnc is touting another skewed poll showing that folks like dear leader’s immigration plan and will blame gop for the sequester cuts….

the lsm has done their job well, the low information voters are so bloody gullible…

so we will hear these poll numbers for the next several days, with the lsm asking gop why won’t you change your position?

cmsinaz on February 21, 2013 at 5:38 AM

parker and cupp…tools of the lsm

———————

funny how every single station will not give jesse jackson jr’s party affiliation…if this was a gop, it would be THE conservative republican jesse jackson je

cmsinaz on February 21, 2013 at 5:40 AM

yup, touting the polls, blame those gop…dear leader is awesome and y’all need to follow him

cmsinaz on February 21, 2013 at 6:03 AM

gop is in the bubble, they can’t get rid of the crazies in the party…those crazy right wing radio hosts
-morning joe

how about getting out of your msdnc bubble joe…

clueless

cmsinaz on February 21, 2013 at 6:14 AM

unapologetically sane.

You mean like Medicare Part D? Unfunded? You mean like “No Child Left Behind”

You mean like – we’d have two SANE choices then? A party that wants to warp into Socialism and another that wants to do exactly the same thing – only at “impulse” speed?

No thank you.

RINO’s here’s a tip for ya …

TAKE A FU*KIN HIKE. You had your shot. You’ve controlled the GOP for 50 years. You’ve been thoroughly discredited – not only with America at large – but with your base.

People are talking about Todd Akin and a few bad TP candidates. What’s really happened though is that the ESTABLISHMENT has destroyed party credibility with it’s addiction to big government.

HondaV65 on February 21, 2013 at 6:27 AM

boy is the lsm treating jesse jackson jr with kid gloves…such a sad sad case, what a tragedy, what a shame….awwwwww
a man that talented will rise again…

seriously?

cmsinaz on February 21, 2013 at 6:31 AM

RINOs: The Weak. Liberal. The Few.

Jaibones on February 21, 2013 at 6:36 AM

So there are a lot more conservatives in the GOP than there are RINOs,but RINOs control the party on a national level.The contradiction is the result of one major factor.RINOs are inveterate liars.They lie to you,hell they even lie to themselves.How many RINOs don’t actually call themselves conservatives.They campaign as conservatives to get elected,then turn left once in office,only to campaign as a conservative again to get re-elected.And we let them do it.And then to make matters worse we let them attack us as the “fringe”.If you don’t buy any of this come to South Carolina and watch Lindsey Graham in action.He is the king of the RINOs,or quite possibly the queen.

redware on February 21, 2013 at 6:45 AM

Uh huh. And, Gov. Zeppelin’s wildly popular…in New Jersey.
My take.

kingsjester on February 21, 2013 at 6:45 AM

Let’s try that again. My take.

kingsjester on February 21, 2013 at 6:48 AM

kingsjester on February 21, 2013 at 6:45 AM

please stay in jersey, we don’t need you…

cmsinaz on February 21, 2013 at 6:50 AM

Why is Rush Limbaugh batting one for six in presidential races?

What does that even mean? I don’t remember Rush ever endorsing anyone in the primaries.

A better question is why do RINO’s endorse so many losers? California should be RINO Utopia. But for some reason, it’s not. The RINO’s have cemented the illusion that California is lost. The only Republicans out there that can run, they say, must be RINO’s. And yet… it is a Democrat stronghold. If the RINO’s were so smart.. then California, New York, Massachusetts would be under Republican control.. since all the Republicans there are RINOs.

All a RINO is is a traitor to principles. A person who simply wants to always play it safe. Not safe for their party, but safe for themselves. Why are they even Republicans? They trash their own party more than they do Democrat because it’s safe.

They don’t want to trash the barbarians. Barbarians don’t take it. The sheep do. But they don’t want to join the barbarian party because they know most of America really isn’t barbarian. So they join the sheeple party, and stand out by trashing it often and siding with the barbarians. This will make them like you and useful to you and that way, the barbarians will call you friend. The Sheep will think you powerful and fearful since you have so many barbarians friends. It’s the safest palce to be.
It’s no more complicated than that.

JellyToast on February 21, 2013 at 6:53 AM

cmsinaz on February 21, 2013 at 6:50 AM

But…ma’am…he was the darling of the Convention./

kingsjester on February 21, 2013 at 6:54 AM

Love Drudge, Christie 74%……Body Fat!

tim c on February 21, 2013 at 6:54 AM

This mindset took firm hold in 2012 so that the echo chamber syndrome that once made fools of left has now come back to undermine the right.

A quibble, if I may:
The mindset that “made fools” of the left now acts to merely “undermine” the right?

Because the right didn’t look at all foolish predicting a 300+ EV blowout for Romney last fall. Heck, Karl Rove is still waiting for the final numbers from Ohio!

The “intellectual unfreezing” of the right will happen just as soon as a certain other location freezes over first.

By the way, Rachel Maddow has been begging conservatives to come on to her show for years.

chumpThreads on February 21, 2013 at 6:57 AM

kingsjester on February 21, 2013 at 6:54 AM

heh

his 15 minutes…

cmsinaz on February 21, 2013 at 6:59 AM

chumpThreads on February 21, 2013 at 6:57 AM

Maddow has been begging anybody to come on her show for years.

kingsjester on February 21, 2013 at 6:59 AM

The very term “moderate” as used in the political realm, is but in itself a deliberate corruption of its very meaning. It is essentially another weapon used by leftists in the GOP and their progressive allies across the aisle to inhibit conservatives from speaking the truth.
It is little more than one more of the same tired old word-weapons they hurl at truth tellers such as, “tolerant,” “sensitivity,” “compromise,” “racist,” “homophobe,” or “extremist” are misused, with but one goal, to stop the truth (that alone will set us free)from being heard. It is the anti-thesis of freedom, and needs to be attacked when used as such, for it’s deceit.

Don L on February 21, 2013 at 7:00 AM

Here’s what God thinks of a moderate.

“So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth.” Rev. 3:16

JellyToast on February 21, 2013 at 7:00 AM

KJ

If the gop is smart he would be the gop nominee in 2016
-morning joe crew

Blech

cmsinaz on February 21, 2013 at 7:08 AM

cmsinaz on February 21, 2013 at 7:08 AM

When I’m good, I’m good.

kingsjester on February 21, 2013 at 7:11 AM

Indeed KJ :)

cmsinaz on February 21, 2013 at 7:27 AM

Yawn…….

tommy71 on February 21, 2013 at 7:31 AM

Kathleen Parker wants to go back to the good old days when Republicans were the minority and all their votes were go along to get along. Ah, the days when you could “say” you were a Republican and were in favor of balanced budgets and cutting spending, only if those nasty Democrats would let you do it.

If Kathleen Parker really thinks she’s right, let her enter a Presidential Primary and go up against Sarah Palin and see who gets more votes, put her money (and her ideas) where her mouth is.

At least now she’s come out as a RINO and we can judge her columns accordingly.

bflat879 on February 21, 2013 at 7:36 AM

Interesting tidbit….. ‘Researchers from the University of New England and Australian National University have found that Tango dancing can get you rid of anxiety and stress, and treat insomnia. After just 2 weeks of lessons, “participants showed significant reductions in depression, anxiety, stress and insomnia. Satisfaction with life and self-efficacy were significantly increased,” researchers said’. And thats your first smile and bright spot of the day. :-)

tommy71 on February 21, 2013 at 7:39 AM

Republicans tried working for years with the Dems, only to be excoriated anyway and sit back while Dems promises were never kept. Over time, the Pubs became more willing to try again and got the same results. Only under Reagan did things improve for the country. After him, first under RINO Bush I, the prosperity melted away to what we have now. It is all because of Dem policies when they’re in power, and RINO willingness to get along.

After all that, many Conservatives like me have our heels dug in. No compromises any more. I, for one, refuse to bend any further on issues like gun control, crime, illegal entrants to my country, and a number of other things. I used to be Republican, but that was long ago.

And never again. If the Pubs do ever represent my views again, I don’t think it’ll be in my lifetime.

No.
More.
Compromises.

Liam on February 21, 2013 at 7:47 AM

tommy71 on February 21, 2013 at 7:39 AM

Morning to ya Geezer!

can_con on February 21, 2013 at 7:49 AM

Meh.
The country is rapidly approaching economic collapse.
After the collapse one end of the political spectrum will then emerge as dominant.
All the debate over nuances within the middle of that spectrum will be irrelevant.

justltl on February 21, 2013 at 7:56 AM

Interesting tidbit….. ‘Researchers from the University of New England and Australian National University have found that Tango dancing can get you rid of anxiety and stress, and treat insomnia. After just 2 weeks of lessons, “participants showed significant reductions in depression, anxiety, stress and insomnia. Satisfaction with life and self-efficacy were significantly increased,” researchers said’. And thats your first smile and bright spot of the day. :-)
tommy71 on February 21, 2013 at 7:39 AM

Good to know, but won’t most kinds of physical exercise do this also?

bluegill on February 21, 2013 at 8:00 AM

@can_con You meanie you. I’ve never been married, and I’m just 42. Wait for another 28 years, and I’ll be in the geezer category. ;-) Top of the morning to you.

tommy71 on February 21, 2013 at 8:02 AM

RINOs: The Strong. The Proud. The Many.

Wait, Kathleen Parker is still around? I think the line should have been written this way:

Kathleen Parker: The Dumb. The Ignorant. And the Only One. Thank God.

Physics Geek on February 21, 2013 at 8:04 AM

“Tango tidbit”? tommy71 on February 21, 2013 at 7:39 AM
You definitely got my interest, T. Would you have a source for that? I might want to track it down. Thanks, I appreciate your wit and wisdom.

indypat on February 21, 2013 at 8:05 AM

@tommy71 Yes you are just a few years younger than me so theres plenty of time but remember:

Geezerdom is also a state if mind and can be turned on and off when the situation calls for it.

Hey you! Get off my lawn!

can_con on February 21, 2013 at 8:09 AM

Sorry for the delayed response. My internetz conn ain’t good. @bluegill Not in 2 weeks, it won’t. @indypat Sorry, my device doesn’t allow me to post links. I’ve given you the relevant info- Names of Universities and tango dancing. Just google it. And thanks for the compliment. @can_con Thanks for the advice, older brother. :-)

tommy71 on February 21, 2013 at 8:30 AM

keep hunting the RINOs guys, itll give you something to do in between losing elections

snoopicus on February 21, 2013 at 8:35 AM

Why is Rush Limbaugh batting one for six in presidential races?

Because in he end, he carried the water for great conservatives like Bob Dole, George Bush, John McCain, and Mitt Romney.

elfman on February 21, 2013 at 8:36 AM

keep hunting the RINOs guys, itll give you something to do in between losing elections

snoopicus on February 21, 2013 at 8:35 AM

So conservatives lost because the establishment backed Bob Dole, George Bush, John McCain, and Mitt Romney… If only they’d have backed more moderate candidates, we’d have won?

elfman on February 21, 2013 at 8:46 AM

tommy71 on February 21, 2013 at 8:30 AM Got it, thanks. Good reading. Who knew University of New England was in New South Wales? G’day!

indypat on February 21, 2013 at 8:47 AM

Why should RINOs hang their heads in shame and be relegated to the fringes of their party? The party is the fringe.

Many thanks to Karl Rove, John McCain, and especially Willard Romney for making this a fact today.

To the Willard supporters,

I
Told
Ya
So!!!

DannoJyd on February 21, 2013 at 8:47 AM

Why should RINOs hang their heads in shame and be relegated to the fringes of their party?

Um… The clue is in the name, knucklehead.

Cleombrotus on February 21, 2013 at 8:55 AM

keep hunting the RINOs guys, itll give you something to do in between losing elections

snoopicus on February 21, 2013 at 8:35 AM

So conservatives lost because the establishment backed Bob Dole, George Bush, John McCain, and Mitt Romney… If only they’d have backed more moderate candidates, we’d have won?

elfman on February 21, 2013 at 8:46 AM

My comment wasnt in reference to our candidates but rather the atmosphere we have created on comment threads like this. It seems kinda nasty as opposed to witty or funny and I think the atmosphere has chased a lot of people off. I think the conservatives are doing this nationally to moderates in the party with the net effect being a smaller republican party

snoopicus on February 21, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Who gave Kathleen Parker any cred to speak for republicans? She’s an Obama supporter. She is in the WaPo stable of liberal journolisters. She’s just another harpy to me.

DanMan on February 21, 2013 at 9:38 AM

I think the conservatives are doing this nationally to moderates in the party with the net effect being a smaller republican party

snoopicus on February 21, 2013 at 9:27 AM

There ya go thinking again!

Look! You can make up all the excuses you want, but the FACT remains that selecting Romneycare Willard KILLED the winning issue of 0bamacare, trying to sell Romneycare as a conservative idea killed off any chance of getting out the conservative vote, and when the elitists decided to steal the Ron Paul delegates by changing the rules after the primary, DEFEAT was made CERTAIN!

Today the elitists are fighting the efforts of the TEA Party. How do YOU think that will work out?

DannoJyd on February 21, 2013 at 9:40 AM

Who gave Kathleen Parker any cred to speak for republicans? She’s an Obama supporter. She is in the WaPo stable of liberal journolisters. She’s just another harpy to me.

DanMan on February 21, 2013 at 9:38 AM

Go ask Karl Rove. He seems to like her more than the TEA Party Patriots in America today.

DannoJyd on February 21, 2013 at 9:41 AM

A lot of concern trolling from low information media.

You can join us in bringing down America, or you can just stay in the minority chanting, “we told you so.”

Proud minority.

MNHawk on February 21, 2013 at 9:42 AM

Today the elitists are fighting the efforts of the TEA Party. How do YOU think that will work out?

DannoJyd on February 21, 2013 at 9:40 AM

I think as long as we are fighting amongst ourselves we will do the democrats dirty work for them.

snoopicus on February 21, 2013 at 10:08 AM

I think as long as we are fighting amongst ourselves we will do the democrats dirty work for them.

snoopicus on February 21, 2013 at 10:08 AM

And, I think as long as the RINOs keep pulling the Republican party leftward away from their conservative platform and ideology, the RINOs are doing the dirty work for the Democrats. When the choice is between a Democrat or a Democrat Lite, voters figure they might as well go with the real thing.

Fallon on February 21, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Somebody help me with the math that says Rush is 1/6. If you count his radio days in Sacremento you go back to 1984. That would give him 1984, 1988, 2000 and 2004 and missing 1992, 1996, 2008 and 2012. 4/8

He went national in August 1988. That would be 3/7 if you limit it to that. Maf isn’t that hard.

DanMan on February 21, 2013 at 10:32 AM

My comment wasn’t in reference to our candidates but rather the atmosphere we have created on comment threads like this. It seems kinda nasty as opposed to witty or funny and I think the atmosphere has chased a lot of people off. I think the conservatives are doing this nationally to moderates in the party with the net effect being a smaller republican party

snoopicus on February 21, 2013 at 9:27 AM

It’s a challenge to light heartedly lampoon Republicans who enabled two terms of an anti-colonialist president. It’s even more difficult to stay cool when Congress refuse to even recognize their constitutional powers and elected mandates to avoid being repeatedly outmaneuvering by progressive leftists. But I agree that witty sarcasm is probably more effective than angrily insults.

How about we just agree to limit our “RINO hunting” weapons to humor and irony. Or is your larger point that we should eliminate stinging quips to our moderate leaders’ soft underbellies and pledge that we’ll be loyal to the party in the end.

elfman on February 21, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Somebody help me with the math that says Rush is 1/6. If you count his radio days in Sacremento you go back to 1984. That would give him 1984, 1988, 2000 and 2004 and missing 1992, 1996, 2008 and 2012. 4/8

DanMan on February 21, 2013 at 10:32 AM

I didn’t get that either so I just ignored it.

elfman on February 21, 2013 at 12:14 PM

My reading of this and other conservative websites has gone from an hour or so a day to rarely if ever.

I got sick of the defeatism, the gold bugs, the “let the country burn” mindset, the pessimism and the puritans who want everyone who slightly disagrees about a puritanical view of “conservatism” to go away. And not “puritanical” as in social issues, “puritanical” as in if I don’t agree 100% with one sliver of one issue, I am a RINO and need to go the hell away.

We will never win another election with a mindset like this. The talkers have taken over and all they need to do is to build their ratings.

Some of us have children and want to have a future. We don’t want it all to burn down. I don’t agree with the Democrats but I sure don’t agree with what I see out of the right these days either. I’ll vote against Democrats, but as far as politics, I’ve stopped wasting my time. I read the paper once a day and that’s enough.

NoDonkey on February 21, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Tedious.

Bmore on February 21, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Interesting

api on February 27, 2013 at 9:20 AM

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