Supreme Court to take hard look at federal campaign donation limits

posted at 12:41 pm on February 19, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

If you loved or hated the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision, you’ll want to gear up for next session’s review of McCutcheon v FEC.  The case will determine whether the little-known federal cap on aggregate contributions to candidates and political parties will stand constitutional scrutiny, and may impact campaign contributions more generally:

In a move that could signal the end of a key restriction on political giving, the Supreme Court announced Tuesday it will consider a case challenging the limit on how much individuals can donate directly to federal candidates and political parties[.]

The court’s action comes three years after its Citizens United decision ended the ban on corporation donations to independent groups seeking to elect or defeat presidential and congressional candidates. That decision kept in place a 106-year-old ban on corporations giving directly to federal candidates. But it helped pave the way for a proliferation of deep-pocketed super PACs that can spend unlimited amounts of corporate and union money in federal contests, as long as they operate independently of candidates.

The case, brought by an Alabama businessman and the Republican National Committee, seeks to do away with the aggregate limit on how much an individual can donate directly to candidates and parties. Currently, an individual cannot donate more than $123,200 to all federal candidates, parties and traditional political action committees during a two-year-election cycle.

I hadn’t heard about the aggregate cap before now, and it’s a bit puzzling.  Why limit aggregate contributions at all?  As the plaintiff’s attorney argues, it only encourages contributions to flow into the super-PACs which remove accountability from candidates and political parties, and contributes to the irrationality in election campaigns:

Lawyers for Shaun McCutcheon, the Alabama businessman and GOP activist, argue those limits violate donors’ free-speech rights and severely restrict the ability of candidates and parties to compete in an age of free-for-all spending by super PACs and political nonprofit groups.

“In a rational universe, you wouldn’t want candidates and parties to become bit players in elections,” said Indiana lawyer Jim Bopp, the lead counsel in the McCutcheon case and an architect of the legal challenge that led to the court’s Citizens United decision. “You want their voices to be heard.”

Well, yeah.  Of course, that’s an argument against all restrictions on contribution amounts, too.  If the cash flows to the candidates and the political parties, they become accountable for the messaging produced.  PACs and super-PACs become unnecessary and cumbersome.

What is truly needed in such a system, and in campaign finance reform generally, is immediate transparency.  Thirty years ago, that wasn’t possible.  With the near-ubiquity of broadband Internet access, it’s almost cost-free now.  Instead of erecting artificial barriers to contributors that create opacity and unaccountability by design, we should be crafting systems that make candidates and their political parties fully responsible for their messaging and tactics, rather than allow them to hide behind organizations built by their big donors.

This case focuses on the aggregate cap, and the Supreme Court’s decision to accept McCutcheon’s appeal shows an interest in addressing at least that part of campaign-finance reform efforts since Watergate. Hopefully, the court will use the opportunity to eliminate the obstacles to people to use their cash in the manner they see fit for political activism within elections, and kick the rest of it back to Congress to establish requirements and mechanisms for immediate and full transparency.

Update, 7:15 ET: I fixed the last sentence after several readers pointed out to me that by using the word “ability” I had made exact opposite argument from what I had intended.


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Bishop on March 27, 2013 at 10:44 PM

r “cling” loosely to their guns..:)

Dire Straits on March 27, 2013 at 10:52 PM

You bible thumpers are nuts. Don’t you know that male rodents in the wild hump each other. Come on, that means its natural, obviously. Male rodents have humped each other way before marriage was invented.

SparkPlug on March 27, 2013 at 10:52 PM

+1 king gold

cmsinaz on March 27, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Bishop on March 27, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Or “cling” loosely to their guns..:)

Dire Straits on March 27, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Fixed..:)

Dire Straits on March 27, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Come to think of it, I have never heard the term “Koran Thumpers”.

KCB on March 27, 2013 at 10:45 PM

I . . . I don’t think you are allowed to thump a Koran.

Only Muslim women, and even then, you have to be a Muslim man and be married to her. Or her father. Or a close male relative.

Axe on March 27, 2013 at 10:53 PM

*I didn’t mean married to her father or a close male relative. That would be bad. It was unfortunate phrasing. Unless you are a Muslim woman.

Axe on March 27, 2013 at 10:54 PM

We have done a very poor job of selling the idea of marriage tothe younger generations in so many areas..:(

Dire Straits on March 27, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Again. 3.4% of the population.

3.4% of the population.

3.4% of the population.

Three. Point. Four. Percent.

KingGold on March 27, 2013 at 10:25 PM

I don’t care if it’s only one person, still no excuse to deprive them of their liberty.

alchemist19 on March 27, 2013 at 10:55 PM

You bible thumpers are nuts. Don’t you know that male chimps in the wild dress like the village people. Come on, that means its natural, obviously. Male chimps have dressed like the village people way before marriage was invented.

SparkPlug on March 27, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Axe on March 27, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on March 27, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Axe on March 27, 2013 at 10:53 PM

You left out goats, and boys. Or, if you need to stretch out an orifice to insert a bomb jihad device. Then everything is okay.

cozmo on March 27, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Pic of the Day: Is A Pulitzer Prize In Alex Jones’ Future?

I don’t think that this is what Rand Paul had in mind.

Resist We Much on March 27, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Meanwhile..,the back-door,er,barn-door is wide-open……

……where does it end…….

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Last Update: Mar 27, 2013
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The Horn columnist Mac McCann makes the case for not only legalizing gay marriage, but also legalizing polygamy (even though he thinks it’s very, very weird).

Olson was trying to distance his case from polygamy, which many Americans greatly fear. As Peter Sprigg,

a senior fellow for policy studies at the Family Research Council in Washington wrote on USNews.com, “If same-sex ‘marriage’ is legalized, we can be certain that a push for polygamy will not be far behind.”

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canopfor on March 27, 2013 at 10:56 PM

When A Man Loves A Woman – Percy Sledge

thatsafactjack on March 27, 2013 at 10:57 PM

China, India, Japan, Egypt. Been doing it before the Christians stole it and pretended they invented it. Nevermind that it existed in ancient Rome and indeed all of pre-Christian Europe.

Datscoocoo on March 27, 2013 at 10:37 PM

Hebrew society well predates Japanese society.

Good Solid B-Plus on March 27, 2013 at 10:58 PM

I don’t care if it’s only one person, still no excuse to deprive them of their liberty.

alchemist19 on March 27, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Yeah but come on- we don’t frickin talk about anything else. I can’t even get into a decent prolife argument without it turning into gay marriage. Meanwhile Obama signed a Monsanto Protection Act today..

melle1228 on March 27, 2013 at 10:58 PM

I . . . I don’t think you are allowed to thump a Koran.

Only Muslim women, and even then, you have to be a Muslim man and be married to her. Or her father. Or a close male relative.

Axe on March 27, 2013 at 10:53 PM

And don’t forget, she has to be at least 6 years old!

VorDaj on March 27, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Results for #marriageequality

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23marriageequality&src=hash

canopfor on March 27, 2013 at 10:58 PM

I don’t care if it’s only one person, still no excuse to deprive them of their liberty.

alchemist19 on March 27, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Unless it’s the freedom of a church to not perform a gay marriage. **** those guys.

Good Solid B-Plus on March 27, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Hey when you come back from protesting a Mosque’s definition of marriage.. Come back and tell us how that went..

melle1228 on March 27, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Come to think of it, I have never heard the term “Koran Thumpers”.

KCB on March 27, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Yep. For the same reason they haven’t gone after Muslim-sponsored organizations, and would sooner wrestle a rabid lion than sue an Islamic photographer for refusing to shoot at a gay ‘wedding’.

Every libtard from Obama down to Dumbandkookoo knows very well that the risk of an insulted Jews nor Christians delivering a well-deserved beating is next to nonexistent. He could put up a video on Youtube of him peeing on a stack of Bibles and get no worse than nasty comments.

MelonCollie on March 27, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Hello RWM. Always a pleasure.

KCB on March 27, 2013 at 10:59 PM

I don’t care if it’s only one person, still no excuse to deprive them of their liberty.

alchemist19 on March 27, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Uh, “liberty” is not the first word that comes to mind in marriage.

John the Libertarian on March 27, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Does anyone know what bernake did today? Might have been nothing. I didn’t see him today. The road I was driving down was full of squirrels. That damned squirrel population is large.

wolly4321 on March 27, 2013 at 11:00 PM

It was the right thing to do, many Republican strategists say, to avoid distracting from the GOP’s core economic message.

Give me an effin break! We are always being lectured about economics but in only in that we must accept SSM. Screw you! It’s all about gay marriage — gay gay gay gay gay!

Don’t whine when the gays still hate your guts.

Blake on March 27, 2013 at 11:00 PM

thatsafactjack on March 27, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Every time I here that, I have to play this.

Its mellow time.

cozmo on March 27, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Uh, “liberty” is not the first word that comes to mind in marriage.

John the Libertarian on March 27, 2013 at 10:59 PM

I was married by a judge. I should have asked for a jury. – Groucho

VorDaj on March 27, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Hello Jackie! Such a pleasure to see you.

KCB on March 27, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Alchemist,,,

Define liberty.

wolly4321 on March 27, 2013 at 11:03 PM

cozmo on March 27, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Good evening, Cozmo! Very nice to see you. :) Great tune, too.

thatsafactjack on March 27, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Uh, “liberty” is not the first word that comes to mind in marriage.

John the Libertarian on March 27, 2013 at 10:59 PM

You got me there. As soon as I posted it I wished I had said “due process rights and equal protection” instead of “liberty” for that very reason.

alchemist19 on March 27, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Ken!

Rusty Allen on March 27, 2013 at 11:04 PM

wolly4321 on March 27, 2013 at 10:51 PM

China has decriminalized same-sex relations since 1997, but gay marriage is not part of the legal code;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_China

Egypt officially does not discriminate against homosexuals, but the law is of course interpreted based on Sha’ria;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Egypt#Criminal_laws

India only recently decriminalized homosexual behavior of any kind;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_India

Japan does not legally condone or prohibit homosexuality; its laws just more or less pretend it doesn’t exist;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_Japan

It’s amazing what you can find with a fast online search, these days.

clear ether

eon

eon on March 27, 2013 at 11:04 PM

I don’t care if it’s only one person, still no excuse to deprive them of their liberty.

alchemist19 on March 27, 2013 at 10:55 PM

There might even be more sympathy if the belligerence stopped.

nobar on March 27, 2013 at 11:04 PM

KCB on March 27, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Wonderful to see you, too, Ken! Good evening, my friend. :)

thatsafactjack on March 27, 2013 at 11:04 PM

There’s a Jackie here?

Rusty Allen on March 27, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Daikokuco on March 27, 2013 at 10:37 PM

Was it just a man and woman or were there a smorgasbord of options?

Cindy Munford on March 27, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on March 27, 2013 at 10:55 PM

*southern nod thing*

See what I did up there? I whipped out Romans and “thumped it” to make a statement within a statement. :)

Sort of like wearing white after Labor day, *snap* –

O NO

Axe on March 27, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Yeah but come on- we don’t frickin talk about anything else. I can’t even get into a decent prolife argument without it turning into gay marriage. Meanwhile Obama signed a Monsanto Protection Act today..

melle1228 on March 27, 2013 at 10:58 PM

At least with everyone distracted on gay marriage it’s making it harder for DiFi to get her pig face on TV to talk about gun control. Having all the air sucked out of Washington by a relatively minor issue isn’t all bad. :)

alchemist19 on March 27, 2013 at 11:05 PM

thatsafactjack on March 27, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Back at ya’. Now I’m gonna’ go see if I got assimilated. Or if my wife did.

cozmo on March 27, 2013 at 11:05 PM

I don’t care if it’s only one person, still no excuse to deprive them of their liberty.

alchemist19 on March 27, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Liberty to redefine words, to call a tail a leg and have everyone say, amen?

VorDaj on March 27, 2013 at 11:06 PM

There’s a Jackie here?

Rusty Allen on March 27, 2013 at 11:04 PM

There is and she is a gift.

KCB on March 27, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Gay
Gay
Gay….are we done yet?

KOOLAID2 on March 27, 2013 at 10:35 PM

GLTB marriage… We’re just to Gay. We still have Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender to get through by the end of the week.

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together…

Fallon on March 27, 2013 at 11:06 PM

KingGold on March 27, 2013 at 10:25 PM

I don’t care if it’s only one person, still no excuse to deprive them of their liberty.

alchemist19 on March 27, 2013 at 10:55 PM

The only people being deprived of their liberty are the 92 percent (thereabouts) of America who are not engaged in homosexual activity.

Lourdes on March 27, 2013 at 11:06 PM

The Devil stalks the SCOTUS.

SWalker on March 27, 2013 at 11:04 PM

You should quote a good, brief snip, then link it. I think. I think more people would read you if they knew they were interested pre-click.

/just thinking

Axe on March 27, 2013 at 11:07 PM

This thread is fairly gay tonight.

I mean lighthearted and chipper, that kind of gay, not the evil gay.

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canopfor on March 27, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Moonlight Serenade – Glen Miller

thatsafactjack on March 27, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Unless it’s the freedom of a church to not perform a gay marriage. **** those guys.

Good Solid B-Plus on March 27, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Nope. The first gay couple that wants to force a Catholic church to perform their ceremony should be told to take a long walk off a short pier.

But if it ever does come to that (it won’t, so this is purely hypothetical) the first gay couple who successfully sues to get married in the Westboro Baptist Church is getting a wedding present from me.

alchemist19 on March 27, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Dire Straits on March 27, 2013 at 10:49 PM

I wish I thought producers would get sick of it but they continue to cave.

Cindy Munford on March 27, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Ok. Define equal protection. I’m hetero, I can’t marry anothed dude either.

That’s equal, is it not?

wolly4321 on March 27, 2013 at 11:08 PM

I don’t care if it’s only one person, still no excuse to deprive them of their liberty.

alchemist19 on March 27, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Name the “liberty” that “they” (or “only one person”) are (is) being “deprived” of.

Trying to figure out what that fantasy is there of yours.

Lourdes on March 27, 2013 at 11:08 PM

KCB on March 27, 2013 at 11:06 PM

:) You, too, Ken.

thatsafactjack on March 27, 2013 at 11:09 PM

wolly4321 on March 27, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Squirrel!..:)

Dire Straits on March 27, 2013 at 11:09 PM

I was married by a judge. I should have asked for a jury. – Groucho

VorDaj on March 27, 2013 at 11:03 PM

. . . can I steal two things in one day?

Axe on March 27, 2013 at 11:09 PM

This thread is fairly gay tonight.

I mean lighthearted and chipper, that kind of gay, not the evil gay.

Bishop on March 27, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Bishop:Agreed:)

Gay Light!

canopfor on March 27, 2013 at 11:09 PM

You should quote a good, brief snip, then link it. I think. I think more people would read you if they knew they were interested pre-click.

/just thinking

Axe on March 27, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Listen to Axe. He is smart. I read your stuff, but throwing a money line out there would help. Oh, and Good evening to you and Axe!

KCB on March 27, 2013 at 11:10 PM

String of Pearls – Glen Miller

thatsafactjack on March 27, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Men In Tights

Axe on March 27, 2013 at 11:10 PM

But if it ever does come to that (it won’t, so this is purely hypothetical) the first gay couple who successfully sues to get married in the Westboro Baptist Church is getting a wedding present from me.

alchemist19 on March 27, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Are you a fat mouthed liar, or just a crack smoking fool?

SWalker on March 27, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Hello RWM. Always a pleasure.

KCB on March 27, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Dittoes. Mega…on both counts.

Axe on March 27, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on March 27, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Yeah, I know. Chopped liver and all that.

And, Axe, was concerned that you were having a bad influence on me or something…

Resist We Much on March 27, 2013 at 11:13 PM

What was the 14th amendment created to do? And how far has that intent been perverted?

wolly4321 on March 27, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Is it OK to be white and straight these days?

Just askin’

Cody1991 on March 27, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Axe on March 27, 2013 at 11:10 PM

LOL! I love that scene. :)

Good evening to you, Axefellow! :)

thatsafactjack on March 27, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Is it OK to be white and straight these days?

Just askin’

Cody1991 on March 27, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Nope…

SWalker on March 27, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Gay Light!

canopfor on March 27, 2013 at 11:09 PM

No thanks. If the light from CFL’s can cause seizures I can only imagine what gay light would do to me. I might wake up tomorrow whistling the theme to “Annie”.

Bishop on March 27, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Is it OK to be white and straight these days?

Just askin’

Cody1991 on March 27, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Why do you have to jump in here and be a hater?

KCB on March 27, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Is it OK to be white and straight these days?

Just askin’

Cody1991 on March 27, 2013 at 11:13 PM

In the privacy of your own bedroom, freak.

Axe on March 27, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Night all. :)

melle1228 on March 27, 2013 at 11:15 PM

I wish I thought producers would get sick of it but they continue to cave.

Cindy Munford on March 27, 2013 at 11:08 PM

I think some will but they will be out numbered badly..You are probably going to get on me but I think we are seeing a “sea change shift” in USA in the fact that the low info voters are starting to grow in huge numbers and everyone is only concerned about themselves and “damn the future”attitudes ..:(

Dire Straits on March 27, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Evangelicals are now the ugly stepchild.

That has always been case WHEN THE EVALUATION OF “Evangelicals” is the source that is being given the stage today.

That is, among the interests and associations that today make the most noise (internet: media, “youth” and atheists, other Liberals, academics, pRon afficiondos, gamblers), Evangelicals have ALWays been “the ugly stepchild” among society.

The internet, social media, entertainment industry have given that element among us the biggest microphone. They have always denigrated Evangelicals, except at present, they have the biggest stage available and we hear more from them about what they loathe and despise: Evangelicals, Christians, Conservatives…

Lourdes on March 27, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Is it OK to be white and straight these days?

Just askin’

Cody1991 on March 27, 2013 at 11:13 PM

…nope!…double homophobia…right there!

KOOLAID2 on March 27, 2013 at 11:16 PM

You should quote a good, brief snip, then link it. I think. I think more people would read you if they knew they were interested pre-click.

/just thinking

Axe on March 27, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Listen to Axe. He is smart. I read your stuff, but throwing a money line out there would help. Oh, and Good evening to you and Axe!

KCB on March 27, 2013 at 11:10 PM

I do that sometimes, sometimes not…

SWalker on March 27, 2013 at 11:16 PM

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canopfor on March 27, 2013 at 11:16 PM

melle1228 on March 27, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Good Night!

KCB on March 27, 2013 at 11:16 PM

But if it ever does come to that (it won’t, so this is purely hypothetical) the first gay couple who successfully sues to get married in the Westboro Baptist Church is getting a wedding present from me.

alchemist19 on March 27, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Sure, it’ll never come to that. And Americans will never be forced to purchase health insurance in a landmark SCOTUS ruling by a supposedly conservative justice; that’d just be crazytown.

Good Solid B-Plus on March 27, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Well, “clink” to Jackie.

Rusty Allen on March 27, 2013 at 11:16 PM

I’m A Man – Bo Diddley

thatsafactjack on March 27, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Night all. :)

melle1228 on March 27, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Is that some sort of gay code for something sinister?

Bishop on March 27, 2013 at 11:17 PM

Rusty Allen on March 27, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Good evening, Rusty. :)

thatsafactjack on March 27, 2013 at 11:17 PM

C ya on the morning shift

cmsinaz on March 27, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Will CA recognize my AZ carry permit? Equal protection.

wolly4321 on March 27, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Axe on March 27, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Nbody has answered the imporant question on my mind..Which Peanuts character is gay..Peppermint Patty or Marcie??!!???..:):)

Dire Straits on March 27, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Is it OK to be white and straight these days?

Just askin’

Cody1991 on March 27, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Cody1991:

As long as your Morphing/Evolving sumpin sumpin…..:)
(sarc)

canopfor on March 27, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Is it OK to be white and straight these days?

Just askin’

Cody1991 on March 27, 2013 at 11:13 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDtCa8ZgAk4

Lourdes on March 27, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Well, “clink” to Jackie.

Rusty Allen on March 27, 2013 at 11:16 PM

“clink!” I’ll drink to that gorgeous damsel!

KCB on March 27, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Dire Straits on March 27, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Peppermint Pattie AND Marcie. :)

thatsafactjack on March 27, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Good night cmsinaz! Good seeing you on the night shift!

KCB on March 27, 2013 at 11:20 PM

Resist We Much on March 27, 2013 at 11:13 PM

lolz..:):)

Dire Straits on March 27, 2013 at 11:20 PM

Who Do You Love – George Thorogood

thatsafactjack on March 27, 2013 at 11:21 PM

thatsafactjack on March 27, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Are you sure??..:):)

PS..Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on March 27, 2013 at 11:21 PM

Peppermint Pattie AND Marcie. :)

thatsafactjack on March 27, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Yep..Linus???

KCB on March 27, 2013 at 11:21 PM

Good evening, Jackie.

Rusty Allen on March 27, 2013 at 11:21 PM

canopfor on March 27, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Good evening canopfor..:)

Dire Straits on March 27, 2013 at 11:22 PM

Where is Scrumpy?

KCB on March 27, 2013 at 11:22 PM

Good evening to you, Axefellow! :)

thatsafactjack on March 27, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Hi Jack!

KCB on March 27, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Hi Ken!

Sorry, almost missed it. I was all flushed and scattered with thilliness and exthitement — Hee hee — you know how I get when everything is –

O NO

Axe on March 27, 2013 at 11:24 PM

Dire Straits on March 27, 2013 at 11:21 PM

No. LOL! But if I had to guess…about a cartoon character…. Marcie has an overwhelming fixation on ‘sir’, and Patty is definitely a shade beyond just ‘tomboy’.

thatsafactjack on March 27, 2013 at 11:24 PM

Oh Sh*t,D*mmitt,I’ve been played and Snookered!!!!!!!

Curses AllahP:)
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The site HotAir is running a banner ad encouraging their visitors to click to sign a petition against amnesty. It leads to a page (pictured below) at their sister site Townhall.

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canopfor on March 27, 2013 at 11:24 PM

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Lourdes on March 27, 2013 at 11:25 PM

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