Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on February 19, 2013 by Allahpundit

The leading Republican on the issue is Senator Marco Rubio, R-Fla., and his office told reporters today that they’ve had no consultation with the White House on the issue of immigration.

“President Obama and the White House staff are not working with Republicans on immigration reform,” Rubio spokesman Alex Conant said in an email to reporters. “Senator Rubio’s office has never discussed immigration policy with anyone in the White House.”

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney disputed that. “We have been in contact with everybody involved in this effort on Capitol Hill,” he said.

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A lot of people are noticing that Marco Rubio’s immigration reform plan has a lot in common with President Obama’s immigration reform plan, which Rubio denounced as “half-baked.” This is not good for Rubio, who is almost certainly running for president in 2016 (if you need further evidence, check out the tour of the Middle East he’s on right now) and would need to keep conservative voters happy to make it through the primary. So Rubio’s office is insisting the two plans are not alike at all — and their offices haven’t even spoken.

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President Obama did some political outreach Tuesday, phoning key Republican senators on immigration.

Obama spoke with a former GOP presidential candidate — Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. — and perhaps a future one, Sen. Marco Rubio, R-S.C.

“The President reiterated that he remains supportive of the effort underway in Congress, and that he hopes that they can produce a bill as soon as possible that reflects shared core principles on reform,” said a White House statement…

Rubio spokesman Alex Conant said the senator “appreciated receiving President Obama’s phone call to discuss immigration reform late tonight in Jerusalem. The Senator told the President that he feels good about the ongoing negotiations in the Senate, and is hopeful the final product is something that can pass the Senate with strong bipartisan support.”

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A draft of the White House immigration bill was leaked over the weekend, detailing a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants that would take about 13 years after the passage of the bill to complete, policy experts say…

Overall, the draft bill’s path to legalization is essentially in line with the proposal by the Senate’s bipartisan Gang of Eight, with one big exception. The Senate plan makes legalization contingent on “securing the border” according to benchmarks that have yet to be laid out in detail. President Obama has refused such requirements.

That conflict over border security has been a sore spot for Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), who blasted the White House draft bill over the weekend as “half baked.” But policy experts and advocates believe that Obama and the Senate gang are far closer than the rhetoric suggests. “I don’t think fundamentally there is that much difference among these proposals,” says Chishti.

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Both Rubio and Obama, for instance, support special pathways to residency for those students and soldiers who were brought illegally to this country as children. In the White House draft legislation, the proposal closely resembles what’s known as the DREAM Act…

Also the [White House] draft bills obtained by The Herald and USA Today show that, contrary to Rubio’s concern, the plan wouldn’t give illegal immigrants a chance to obtain citizenship before those who lawfully entered the country…

Aside from the emphasis on border security, there appears to be relatively little in the White House draft proposals that conflicts with what Rubio wants…

U.S. Rep. Joe Garcia, a Democrat from Miami, said the president’s proposal is “a good place to start. It encompasses everything Rubio’s talking about. Except it has Obama’s name on it.”

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Not wanting to be seen as a shill for a Democratic President’s signature achievement, Rubio’s strategy from the start has been to play up his differences with the White House as much as possible. This weekend’s outburst was only the latest incident: in interviews with the Wall Street Journal, Bill O’Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, and other conservative thought leaders, Rubio has positioned himself as the right-wing antidote to a far-left White House on immigration.

This touring indignation act isn’t just for Rubio’s own benefit. The Republicans he needs to win over to pass a bill will be a lot more comfortable if they think they’re somehow thumbing their nose at Obama by voting for it. We’ve seen this dynamic on other issues in recent weeks, most notably the debt ceiling, where conservative Republicans delivered a lot of macho partisan talk about a bill that was objectively a huge cave to the White House. If a compromise bill ends up passing, expect to see a lot of statements from Republicans supporters about how they stopped some non-existent White House “amnesty” bill.

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“An Obama plan, led and driven by Obama in this atmosphere, with the level of hostility toward the president and the way he goads the hostility, I think it is very hard to imagine that bill, that his bill is going to pass the House,” Gingrich said. But he added that a bill originating in the Senate “could actually get to the president’s desk.”

I believe Gingrich is right. Republican members of Congress have shown a willingness, even an eagerness, to vote against measures that they themselves have sponsored in the past — if Obama is now proposing them.

So if the president really wants immigration reform to pass, one of the most helpful things he could do is put out his own plan as a decoy, to draw Republican fire, while the Senate works toward bipartisan consensus. Which looks suspiciously like what just happened.

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The “backup plan” stuff is nonsense — the point of leaking the [White House] bill is to enable Rubio to say that his amnesty plan is waaay different from the dastardly Obama plan, even though they’re identical in the only respect that matters: amnesty immediately for all illegal aliens, with work cards, Social Security numbers, driver’s licenses, the right to travel abroad and return, etc. The president has repeatedly said he wants to stand back and let Congress come up with a bill because if he were to send one to Congress it would be toxic for Republicans — i.e., those Republicans who desperately want to sell out their constituents by backing amnesty but are afraid of the voter backlash. The Rubio and Ryan criticisms of the proposed bill sound almost as though they were scripted by Schumer and White House to make the Senate Gang of Eight scheme seem more palatable to such Republicans…

This whole gambit is so transparent even Talking Points Memo is commenting on it. Immigration hawks would do well not to get sucked into this phony controversy. Obama’s bill is Rubio’s bill.

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The only real difference between Obama and Rubio appears to be whether or not a border security “trigger” should be met before those here illegally now could become citizens. But even this is not that big a deal. White House spokesman Josh Earnest has already admitted that while Obama does not prefer a trigger, he will sign a bill that contains one.

And Obama’s willingness to include a trigger is not surprising, considering how utterly worthless any such measure would be. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., conceded as much last week when he told Univision that the satisfaction of any trigger requirement would ultimately be up to whoever was Department of Homeland Security Secretary at the time. And how secure does Secretary Janet Napolitano think our border is now? “Our borders have, in fact, never been stronger,” she testified to Congress last week.

Either Rubio is trying to lay the groundwork for pulling out of the Gang of Ocho immigration group, or amnesty is already a done deal.

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I’m not usually a conspiracy theorist, but it’s hard not to see at least a shadow of a good-cop/bad-cop routine in the reaction of the Gang of Eight to President Obama’s leaked blueprint for “comprehensive immigration reform.” Obama’s plan differs in largely trivial ways from the gang of Eight’s proposal — it would allow illegal immigrants to apply for permanent-residence status after eight years on probationary status, whereas the Gang of Eight’s proposal makes the transition from probationary status to permanent-residence status conditional on a yet-to-be-named commission certifying that the border is secure. That distinction is all but irrelevant in the practical realm. Both proposals send the message to intending illegal aliens that the U.S. is still doling out amnesties — and the most important amnesty is the immediate probationary status in both plans that immunizes illegal aliens already here from enforcement (and that grants them legal presence inside the country ahead of intending legal immigrants still waiting outside the country for permission to enter). The chance that under either the Gang of Eight or Obama’s plan an illegal alien on probationary status will lose that status, short of committing a heinous crime, is zero. However much it might hurt Americans’ feelings, American citizenship is not a high priority for Hispanic immigrants, legal and illegal, who have historically had a very low rate of naturalization. Only Proposition 187 in California increased Hispanics’ naturalization rate. And the difference between probationary status and permanent residency under the Gang of Eight’s proposal does not appear to be particularly significant, either…

The other important message that both plans send out is to illegal-alien advocates in the U.S.: protest works. Since the 2006 spring amnesty protests, the delegitimizing of enforcement has only gathered steam. Do not expect enforcement to become relegitimized after the next amnesty; rather, it will become even more stigmatized as unfair to its targets and a separator of families.

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SWalker on February 19, 2013 at 11:36 PM

Ha! Depends on who you ask.

Bmore on February 19, 2013 at 11:39 PM

SWalker on February 19, 2013 at 11:36 PM

Well, Rock Star and all. How’s a little ole Governor gonna compete?

KCB on February 19, 2013 at 11:40 PM

@INC I really don’t think so. After a few years, you tend to ignore or give less weightage to any candidates mistakes in his/her past. After 4 or 8 or 12 years, nobody will really care. Thats what I see, all the time. :-)

tommy71 on February 19, 2013 at 11:40 PM

Rusty Allen on February 19, 2013 at 11:25 PM

Greetings!

INC Hiya!!

Bishop Hi!

7% Howdy!

RWM Hey lady!

And everyone hello!!

Scrumpy on February 19, 2013 at 11:41 PM

Happy Nomad on February 19, 2013 at 11:37 PM

When I toured Ellis Island we walked up a Tom of steps. The tour guide said that all of the immigrants walked up them and they watched to see who was out of breath. I’m going to research that.

Rusty Allen on February 19, 2013 at 11:41 PM

SW hey there!

Scrumpy on February 19, 2013 at 11:41 PM

Scrumps is back, Scrumps is back.

Rusty Allen on February 19, 2013 at 11:41 PM

@INC I really don’t think so. After a few years, you tend to ignore or give less weightage to any candidates mistakes in his/her past. After 4 or 8 or 12 years, nobody will really care. Thats what I see, all the time. :-)

tommy71 on February 19, 2013 at 11:40 PM

I cared about Romneycare and the rest of Romney’s center-left, statist past but a plurality in the GOP clearly didn’t.

besser tot als rot on February 19, 2013 at 11:42 PM

I believe Gingrich is right. Republican members of Congress have shown a willingness, even an eagerness, to vote against measures that they themselves have sponsored in the past — if Obama is now proposing them.

What a buffoon.

besser tot als rot on February 19, 2013 at 11:44 PM

Chrissy, glad you are back!

KCB on February 19, 2013 at 11:44 PM

Ha Ken, its you vs. me, dude. I got your secondary pick now. Did you figure out who my secondary pick is? :-) And make no mistake, I’ll win. Hehehe

tommy71 on February 19, 2013 at 11:47 PM

Who’s Chrissy?

Rusty Allen on February 19, 2013 at 11:47 PM

Nevermind, none of my business.

Rusty Allen on February 19, 2013 at 11:47 PM

I think we grasp at likely straws, because we want to believe in them and that they are as they say they are.

Romney was pretty much thrown at us…

We need to be able to pick and stick with our candidate of choice.

But with the media and the GOP backing someone we may not fully like, cuz we don’t like who is in the house, we ended up having little choice.

I think this next election will be vastly different!

We are not looking to kick someone out, but put someone in!

Maybe our choices will be better…

I hope so, but we still are up against the DNC machine.

Scrumpy on February 19, 2013 at 11:48 PM

tommy71 on February 19, 2013 at 11:47 PM

I am trying to remember your first pick? Perry I think?

KCB on February 19, 2013 at 11:50 PM

Not necessarily. Thanks to Obama and Eric Holder trying to ban guns through Operation Fast and Furious, guns have no borders. The United States Government under orders of the Attorney General managed to kill hundreds of Mexicans in Mexico along with a border agent. All to pander to the Brady Group.

The whole lot of them were high-fiving each other when 20 five-yeare-olds were killed at Sandy Hook. It gave them a second chance.

Happy Nomad on February 19, 2013 at 11:06 PM

If the Federal government does not hermetically seal the borders, the ports, and the beaches, along with airports that service private planes, then it will NEVER be able to create a gun-free zone.

Well, I suppose it is possible. In addition to developing a giganormous space magnet/”Mother Wheel in the Sky,” maybe, the government can find a way to get guns to magically prevent themselves from being carried into the country, which it has, thus far, been unable to do with drugs and illegal immigration.

Resist We Much on February 19, 2013 at 11:50 PM

SW hey there!

Scrumpy on February 19, 2013 at 11:41 PM

Hey Scrumpy… ;) How are this evening…

SWalker on February 19, 2013 at 11:50 PM

think i’ll buy a gross of rosetta spanish tapes and double my money next year when spanish becomes our official language. put your order in now and save a buck or two.

Fred

jrsrigmvr on February 19, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Chrissy is back. Thank goodness. I pictured her swooshing around on her broomstick, with a mean looking baseball bat in one hand, and trying to teach someone comprehension. Not a comely picture at all. ;-)

tommy71 on February 19, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Rusty Allen on February 19, 2013 at 11:47 PM

Funny! How are you tonight?

KCB on February 19, 2013 at 11:52 PM

SWalker on February 19, 2013 at 11:36 PM

Ha! Depends on who you ask.

Bmore on February 19, 2013 at 11:39 PM

Don’t be ridicules Bmore… That’s my job… ;p

SWalker on February 19, 2013 at 11:52 PM

put your order in now and save a buck or two.

Fred

jrsrigmvr on February 19, 2013 at 11:51 PM

How many Peso’s is that?

SWalker on February 19, 2013 at 11:53 PM

Resist We Much on February 19, 2013 at 11:50 PM
Ditto!!

Scrumpy on February 19, 2013 at 11:53 PM

SWalker on February 19, 2013 at 11:50 PM

I am in fine mettle this evening!! How are you?

Scrumpy on February 19, 2013 at 11:53 PM

Yes Ken. You got my primary pick correct. Now guess my secondary pick. And I always pick Govs. of a red state. :-)

tommy71 on February 19, 2013 at 11:53 PM

KCB on February 19, 2013 at 11:52 PM

I’m wonderful. Rough day, great night. What are you up to?

Rusty Allen on February 19, 2013 at 11:54 PM

tommy71 on February 19, 2013 at 11:53 PM

Jindal?

KCB on February 19, 2013 at 11:55 PM

tommy71 on February 19, 2013 at 11:51 PM

‘Tis not an easy task!!

Scrumpy on February 19, 2013 at 11:55 PM

Rusty, you ok, dude? Call it intuition or whatever. I’m pickin up some depressing vibes from you. Need to talk bout anything specific?

tommy71 on February 19, 2013 at 11:57 PM

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on February 19, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Evening, Lucky Pierre*!

* Definition of Lucky Pierre: “The middle man in a 3-way buttfvck. Also known as the French Sandwich.”

Resist We Much on February 19, 2013 at 11:57 PM

Ken, bingo. You’re good at this. lol

tommy71 on February 19, 2013 at 11:58 PM

I’m okay. Just a rough day. I’m feeling good now though.

Rusty Allen on February 19, 2013 at 11:58 PM

Rusty Allen on February 19, 2013 at 11:54 PM

Just a little wine and QOTD! With very few exceptions, wonderful people congregate here, like you. I am blessed to be able to associate. Sometimes I get to hit trolls, but RWM is uniquely qualified and enthusiastic in that art.So I get to CRUZ. (Just throwing a name out there.}

KCB on February 19, 2013 at 11:59 PM

So who did you pick Ken and Tommy?

Scrumpy on February 19, 2013 at 11:59 PM

Resist We Much on February 19, 2013 at 11:50 PM

http://youtu.be/QSDyYzTmlm8

wheel

Fred

jrsrigmvr on February 20, 2013 at 12:00 AM

Resist We Much on February 19, 2013 at 11:50 PM

I thought the “Mother Wheel in the sky” was privately owned?

Bmore on February 20, 2013 at 12:00 AM

KCB on February 19, 2013 at 11:59 PM

Like that!!

Scrumpy on February 20, 2013 at 12:00 AM

I’ve come to the conclusion that we no longer have two separate political parties. It seem increasingly clear to me that we only have one political class, all members of the same exclusive club, bent on hanging onto power and privilege without any real regard for their constituents or the well being of the nation as a whole.

Increasingly I note that in some cases, these members of this hyper-elite class are moving to secure access to the political class and that private club for their own children, thus turning a career in politics and membership in the political class into a family business.

Recent events have led me to the conclusion that these same members of the political class are working in concert, not for the best interest of the nation, but to feed and tend their own political and social ambitions.

thatsafactjack on February 20, 2013 at 12:01 AM

Ken, bingo. You’re good at this. lol

tommy71 on February 19, 2013 at 11:58 PM

Jindal has taken some hits..unfair in my opinion. I like him A LOT.

KCB on February 20, 2013 at 12:01 AM

KCB on February 19, 2013 at 11:59 PM

That’s how I feel. Pretty special to be able to come here and feel better because of great people.

Rusty Allen on February 20, 2013 at 12:02 AM

thatsafactjack on February 20, 2013 at 12:01 AM

Evening Jackie! Hence my two peas in a pod. Say,…. the big comment button is back. ; )

Bmore on February 20, 2013 at 12:03 AM

SWalker on February 19, 2013 at 11:50 PM

I am in fine mettle this evening!! How are you?

Scrumpy on February 19, 2013 at 11:53 PM

I’m doing fine, watching TV in the other room checking up on everyone during the commercials… ;)

SWalker on February 20, 2013 at 12:03 AM

thatsafactjack on February 20, 2013 at 12:01 AM

Jackie, I am thrilled to see you, and I am sad that I have to agree with your diagnosis.

KCB on February 20, 2013 at 12:04 AM

I’ve come to the conclusion that we no longer have two separate political parties. It seem increasingly clear to me that we only have one political class, all members of the same exclusive club, bent on hanging onto power and privilege without any real regard for their constituents or the well being of the nation as a whole.

Increasingly I note that in some cases, these members of this hyper-elite class are moving to secure access to the political class and that private club for their own children, thus turning a career in politics and membership in the political class into a family business.

Recent events have led me to the conclusion that these same members of the political class are working in concert, not for the best interest of the nation, but to feed and tend their own political and social ambitions.

thatsafactjack on February 20, 2013 at 12:01 AM

Yup, exact same conclusion I came to a couple of years ago.

SWalker on February 20, 2013 at 12:04 AM

Bmore on February 20, 2013 at 12:03 AM

Good evening, Bmore!

You know, I never noticed any change on my laptop on this site. I don’t know why I didn’t get the other button. It was supposed to be red, right? Mine never changed.

thatsafactjack on February 20, 2013 at 12:04 AM

SWalker on February 19, 2013 at 11:36 PM

Ha ha. I like you as well, Mr. W.

Hey, Scrumpy!

tommy71, we’ll have to disagree. This has too many painful consequences. It’s why McCain was never made it to the WH.

INC on February 20, 2013 at 12:05 AM

Scrumpy on February 20, 2013 at 12:00 AM

I picked Walker.

KCB on February 20, 2013 at 12:05 AM

Increasingly I note that in some cases, these members of this hyper-elite class are moving to secure access to the political class and that private club for their own children, thus turning a career in politics and membership in the political class into a family business.

thatsafactjack on February 20, 2013 at 12:01 AM

Yup, exact same conclusion I came to a couple of years ago.

SWalker on February 20, 2013 at 12:04 AM

I call these people the self anointed political aristocracy.

SWalker on February 20, 2013 at 12:05 AM

thatsafactjack on February 20, 2013 at 12:01 AM

That’s quite true.

INC on February 20, 2013 at 12:06 AM

thatsafactjack on February 20, 2013 at 12:01 AM

It has by all intents and purposes become a family business… to our peril.

As I see it, it has been going on since the Kennedys’…

So many of you here put in words what I am thinking to myself…

Bravo!

That way I don’t have to clog up the thread with my blatherings, just agree when I do agree!!

Scrumpy on February 20, 2013 at 12:07 AM

Scrumpy on February 20, 2013 at 12:00 AM

I picked Walker.

KCB on February 20, 2013 at 12:05 AM

I picked me too, but then, I might be biased… ;p

SWalker on February 20, 2013 at 12:07 AM

SWalker on February 19, 2013 at 11:53 PM

Don’t know for sure yet. I hope when the tapes arrive, and i learn the new lingo, I can answer you query.

Fred

jrsrigmvr on February 20, 2013 at 12:08 AM

Scrumpy, Kens primary pick is Walker, secondary is McDonnel. On the dem side, his is Booker. My primary pick is Perry, secondary is Jindal. On dem side, its Cuomo. Let me hasten to add that our picks are not who we necessarily support, just who we think will end up as the pub and dem nominee. :-)

tommy71 on February 20, 2013 at 12:08 AM

Its not big or red again. Tweaking, on, off, on , off………………………

Bmore on February 20, 2013 at 12:08 AM

KCB on February 20, 2013 at 12:04 AM

Good evening, Ken. I’m very glad to see you, too, as always. :)

The recent theater that the political class has engaged in on many issues has led me to these conclusions. They used to at least be better actors. Now this act they’ve engaged in is the ONLY truly transparent thing in Washington DC.

thatsafactjack on February 20, 2013 at 12:08 AM

KCB on February 20, 2013 at 12:05 AM

Nice choice!

Most of the ones I had in mind, have said some pretty dumb things that turned me off them…

It’s still too soon for me to advance anyone I may be keen on.

Scrumpy on February 20, 2013 at 12:08 AM

Bmore on February 20, 2013 at 12:03 AM

Good evening, Bmore!

You know, I never noticed any change on my laptop on this site. I don’t know why I didn’t get the other button. It was supposed to be red, right? Mine never changed.

thatsafactjack on February 20, 2013 at 12:04 AM

I got no Red Comment button, but all the comments keep blinking back and forth between bold and regular for me.

SWalker on February 20, 2013 at 12:08 AM

Bmore on February 20, 2013 at 12:08 AM

I am not seeing what you are seeing.

Sure you haven’t had a tipple too many ;-p ?

Scrumpy on February 20, 2013 at 12:09 AM

SWalker on February 20, 2013 at 12:08 AM

Really? I don’t have any of that going on. I wonder why not? Not that I’m complaining, mind you. LOL!

thatsafactjack on February 20, 2013 at 12:09 AM

Whats going on? I pick SW also. For what? Picked for what? Its driving me crazy.

SparkPlug on February 20, 2013 at 12:10 AM

tommy71 on February 20, 2013 at 12:08 AM

Aha! Me light bulb went on! Lol…

I got it… phew! ;-)

Scrumpy on February 20, 2013 at 12:10 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on February 20, 2013 at 12:10 AM

Its not big or red again. Tweaking, on, off, on , off………………………

Bmore on February 20, 2013 at 12:08 AM

It started for me on the Chinese hacking thread… I just figured the Chinese had haxored the hotair database… ;p

SWalker on February 20, 2013 at 12:10 AM

My big red submit button went away. At least I got a cool phone still.

SparkPlug on February 20, 2013 at 12:11 AM

I’m voting for Tina Korbe.

Rusty Allen on February 20, 2013 at 12:11 AM

I thought the “Mother Wheel in the sky” was privately owned?

Bmore on February 20, 2013 at 12:00 AM

I think that Calypso Louie brokered a deal between NASA and the owners in the name of “Muslim outreach.”

“Big wheel in the sky keeps on burning, Proud Louie keeps on turnin’!”

- Journey/Tina Turner

Resist We Much on February 20, 2013 at 12:11 AM

SparkPlug on February 20, 2013 at 12:10 AM

Good evening Fire Marshal!

Govenor I believe…

Scrumpy on February 20, 2013 at 12:12 AM

My comment area has remained plain vanilla.

My big red submit button went away. At least I got a cool phone still.

SparkPlug on February 20, 2013 at 12:11 AM

Not fair!
:)

INC on February 20, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Ok everybody. If you have any blocks, give them to Axe, cause he is compiling them to make a platform.

SparkPlug on February 20, 2013 at 12:12 AM

My big red submit button went away. At least I got a cool phone still.
SparkPlug on February 20, 2013 at 12:11 AM

Samsung?

Rusty Allen on February 20, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Dire Straits on February 20, 2013 at 12:10 AM

Mr Dire! Welcome!

Scrumpy on February 20, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Scrumpy on February 20, 2013 at 12:07 AM

I’m always interested in hearing your opinion, Spritely One! You’ve made many wise and pithy comments here at HA and I find them relevant and insightful. :)

thatsafactjack on February 20, 2013 at 12:12 AM

No hijinks going on on my laptop!

Scrumpy on February 20, 2013 at 12:13 AM

Whats going on? I pick SW also. For what? Picked for what? Its driving me crazy.

SparkPlug on February 20, 2013 at 12:10 AM

For President.

Then we can all be WH czars or something.

INC on February 20, 2013 at 12:13 AM

SWalker on February 20, 2013 at 12:08 AM

Really? I don’t have any of that going on. I wonder why not? Not that I’m complaining, mind you. LOL!

thatsafactjack on February 20, 2013 at 12:09 AM

Maybe it’s only those of us whom the Obamanation Administration has already sentenced to the William Ayers Community Memorial Reeducation and Patriotic Conservative Elimination Facility??? O_O

SWalker on February 20, 2013 at 12:13 AM

INC on February 20, 2013 at 12:06 AM

Good evening, INC. Nice to see you this evening. I hope you’re well. :)

thatsafactjack on February 20, 2013 at 12:14 AM

@INC Then we’ll agree to disagree. Love your faith links though. Difficult to find a person who walks the talk, instead of just talking the talk.

tommy71 on February 20, 2013 at 12:14 AM

Scrumpy on February 20, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Governor. Wow, That’s huge. If SW is going to be gov I better start kissing up now ya know. As Fire Marshall I’ll make extra sure his house don’t burn down by accident cause you never know when an accident might happen.

Could get a huge raise out of the deal.

SparkPlug on February 20, 2013 at 12:15 AM

SWalker, that’s hilarious.

Rusty Allen on February 20, 2013 at 12:15 AM

Dire…

KCB on February 20, 2013 at 12:15 AM

SWalker on February 20, 2013 at 12:13 AM

Don’t even joke about such a thing, Walker. I’d hate to have to get together a raiding party to break you all out!

thatsafactjack on February 20, 2013 at 12:15 AM

I wish them all ill.

Schadenfreude on February 20, 2013 at 12:16 AM

thatsafactjack on February 20, 2013 at 12:14 AM

Hey, Jackie, yes, I am. I hope you’re the same.

tommy71 on February 20, 2013 at 12:14 AM

Thank you.

INC on February 20, 2013 at 12:17 AM

Ken & Tommy, my fantasy picks are;

Paul/Palin for GOP and ummm Shrillary/Pelousi for DNC

Scrumpy on February 20, 2013 at 12:17 AM

Rusty Allen on February 20, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Yup. Galaxy Note II. Of course mentioning will make Tommy chuckle or gag.

Anyway he is the spiritual counselor so he has to stay away from the nymphs. Ya know temptation and stuff like that. Poor guy. Glad I’m Fire Marshall.

SparkPlug on February 20, 2013 at 12:17 AM

SWalker on February 20, 2013 at 12:13 AM

Don’t even joke about such a thing, Walker. I’d hate to have to get together a raiding party to break you all out!

thatsafactjack on February 20, 2013 at 12:15 AM

Well, Ed and MarshFox have already hinted that they’ve been sentenced to the same camp as me, so were planning to use all of our potatoes to make vodka… ;)

SWalker on February 20, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Schadenfreude on February 20, 2013 at 12:16 AM

Really? I must not be nearly as nice as you are, Schadenfreude. I wish them what they deserve.

thatsafactjack on February 20, 2013 at 12:18 AM

thatsafactjack on February 20, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Thank you, a nugget of gold sometimes emerges from within the depths of my mind!

Scrumpy on February 20, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Whew, you are talking about SW for real president. Not Glade president. I got all worked up for nuthin’.

SparkPlug on February 20, 2013 at 12:18 AM

I like nymphs.

Rusty Allen on February 20, 2013 at 12:19 AM

Hey guys and gals, I’m goading SWalker to run for Gov of Cali. Not like ‘Republican’ Arnienator though. Warned him not to get too close to the ‘help’. ;-) What you think? SWalker for Gov. of Cali. Join in and encourage him.

tommy71 on February 20, 2013 at 12:19 AM

Scrumpy on February 20, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Frequently. And we’re grateful for them, too. :)

thatsafactjack on February 20, 2013 at 12:19 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on February 20, 2013 at 12:10 AM

Evening dire! What’s up in the world for you this evening?

Bmore on February 20, 2013 at 12:20 AM

http://youtu.be/7Q-S4YNJFc4

us and them

Fred

jrsrigmvr on February 20, 2013 at 12:20 AM

Scrumpy on February 20, 2013 at 12:17 AM

I would like Palin/Paul better just cause I think she would be the better executive. But I don’t think she will run, and i don’t think you do either. Who do you think will win, not who you want.

KCB on February 20, 2013 at 12:20 AM

Governor.

There’s me bragging about helping someone with comprehension and I can’t spell govenor?… oh boy, must have holes in my head!

Scrumpy on February 20, 2013 at 12:20 AM

Hey guys and gals, I’m goading SWalker to run for Gov of Cali. Not like ‘Republican’ Arnienator though. Warned him not to get too close to the ‘help’. ;-) What you think? SWalker for Gov. of Cali. Join in and encourage him.

tommy71 on February 20, 2013 at 12:19 AM

Well, ya know… Technically since I AM single and all… ;p

SWalker on February 20, 2013 at 12:21 AM

SparkPlug on February 20, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Relax, Spark. There will be none of that political shenanigans in the Glade.

thatsafactjack on February 20, 2013 at 12:21 AM

jrsrigmvr on February 20, 2013 at 12:20 AM

Excellent choice, Fred. Good evening. It’s very good to see you. :)

thatsafactjack on February 20, 2013 at 12:23 AM

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