Important PSA from Joe Biden: “Buy a shotgun. Buy a shotgun.”

posted at 7:21 pm on February 19, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via the Weekly Standard, I bet the Onion wishes it had waited an extra month to release that e-book. This would have warranted its own chapter.

Not the first time he’s touted the benefits of shotgun ownership lately either. As goofy as it is, I think this is actually kinda sorta effective at blunting the “gun-grabbing” critique liberals naturally face whenever they get itchy about “assault weapons.” Here’s the vice president of the United States encouraging you to go on out and get yourself a 12-gauge, just like the one he’s got. Why? Because it’s easier to aim and use than an AR-15, which … I’m pretty sure isn’t true, but whatever. Just buy a shotgun. Buy a shotgun. That way, if ever you snap and head off on a killing spree, the death toll will be limited. Unless you bring a bag of shells with you and reload quickly, I guess. In which case, who knows?

That’s the first clip. The second clip, also from today’s Q&A with Parents magazine, is of someone asking why we’d expect an assault-weapons ban to work any better than the ban on illegal drugs does. Biden’s reply: Do you mean we should legalize all drugs? Which, of course, is a non sequitur. Few people (at least outside hardcore libertarian precincts) support legalizing all drugs or all weapons. There’s a national push to legalize weed but not so much to legalize heroin and meth; most are content to leave those restricted on grounds that they’re too dangerous, just like most gun owners are content to leave machine guns and bazookas in the hands of the feds. The better questions are (1) why is Biden trying to expand prohibition even though the data doesn’t support the need for it? And (2) how does he decide when it’s worth limiting the rights of the law-abiding majority in order to make things marginally more difficult for criminals? If banning assault weapons is justifiable, why shouldn’t we ban booze that’s over, say, five percent ABV in order to reduce drunk-driving accidents? The White House refrain throughout this miserable process has been that it’s worth doing if it’ll save even one life. Well, I’ll bet a ban on liquor that’s higher than 10 proof would save at least one. How about it?



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Has the USA ever had an elected official as stupid as Joe Biden?

jake-the-goose on February 19, 2013 at 7:22 PM

I did last week, it has a 3 inch barrel.

meci on February 19, 2013 at 7:22 PM

Last time I looked the second didn’t say shotgun. What is it so hard for libtards to understand shall not be infringed.

stephana on February 19, 2013 at 7:23 PM

The guy in California just shot up a bunch of people with…a shotgun. Libs are excruciatingly thick.

andy85719 on February 19, 2013 at 7:26 PM

Isn’t Washington trying to outlaw shotguns too?

El_Terrible on February 19, 2013 at 7:26 PM

Really wondering what Joe’s going to think when some one informs him that shotguns can shoot slugs….

BigWyo on February 19, 2013 at 7:26 PM

I would if his gun grabbing buddies hadn’t jacked the prices up so high.

cozmo on February 19, 2013 at 7:27 PM

So,um,……Biden,a Lefty,is suggesting
arming up!

Terrific,now I`m confused
(sarc)

canopfor on February 19, 2013 at 7:27 PM

“Has the USA ever had an elected official as stupid as Joe Biden?”

Maybe Spiro Agnew comes a little close. But Joe Biden is a clear winner in stupid.

Warner Todd Huston on February 19, 2013 at 7:27 PM

Or how about one like this Joe?

BigWyo on February 19, 2013 at 7:28 PM

why shouldn’t we ban booze that’s over, say, five percent ABV in order to reduce drunk-driving accidents?

……….

Mayor Bloomberg’s new quest.

El_Terrible on February 19, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Love the second video. It’s LITERALY, LITERALLY, a nonsensical, self-parody of a Joe Biden answer. Had to check that it wasn’t Jason Sudeikis.

Robert_Paulson on February 19, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Last time I looked the second didn’t say shotgun. What is it so hard for libtards to understand shall not be infringed.

stephana on February 19, 2013 at 7:23 PM

Actually the second (Biden) did say shotgun. The Second Amendment talks about the right to keep and bear arms. The Second is not a provision for the right to hunt. The Second is not limited in the way the left wants to curtail our civil rights be it banning weapons, magazines, ammunition, or conducting warrantless searches for weapons.

Happy Nomad on February 19, 2013 at 7:29 PM

It says “Bear Arms” … which includes munitions.

Of course, I’m partial to any shotgun that Feinstein might want to ban. Especially if it has a barrel shroud, pistol grip and a drum! Saiga anyone? How about a belt fed shotgun?

Guns only became a problem when the government decided to ban certain kinds.

Because they were being used by people who were selling liquor…a banned item.

Yeah..government is like salt. A little is all you need. Too much and it will kill you.

ProfShadow on February 19, 2013 at 7:30 PM

1. Joe Biden is a loose shotgun cannon.
2. The interviewer has the voice of a mouse.
3. Buy a shot gun. Buy a shot gun.

ebrawer on February 19, 2013 at 7:31 PM

“If there’s ever a problem,” Biden said he told his wife Jill, “just walk out on the balcony here–walk out, put that double barrel shot gun and fire two blasts outside the house

So he wants her to go outside and start blasting away without identifying a target first?

Mark1971 on February 19, 2013 at 7:32 PM

“Shotguns are long, black, hard and powerful, and who doesn’t love that, right?
Buy a shotgun! Buy a shotgun!” – Crazy Uncle Joe

Pork-Chop on February 19, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Um, they are trying to ban shotguns too, like Saigas etc.

And ever heard of a semi-automatic shotgun? They are increasingly popular and already regulated like assault weapons in a lot of states.

Nessuno on February 19, 2013 at 7:34 PM

“If there’s ever a problem,” Biden said he told his wife Jill, “just walk out on the balcony here–walk out, put that double barrel shot gun and fire two blasts outside the house

So he wants her to go outside and start blasting away without identifying a target first?

Mark1971 on February 19, 2013 at 7:32 PM

If its a double barrel shotgun, wouldn’t she be out of ammo at that point?

El_Terrible on February 19, 2013 at 7:35 PM

For the past four-plus years, I’ve been the same three-word argument to stifle those who want to see the Kenyan impeached:

President Joe Biden.

Works every time.

Humphrey on February 19, 2013 at 7:35 PM

STFU Joe!

KOOLAID2 on February 19, 2013 at 7:36 PM

I’m thinking of getting a shotgun on the theory that just the sound of me pumping a shell into the chamber would discourage whoever might be prowling around the house and I might not have to shoot them — which I assume would be messy and a bit horrifying.

urban elitist on February 19, 2013 at 7:37 PM

In his little answer he told Jill if she is ever worried about someone out in the woods just go out and fire off two rounds in the air from the deck. Do they arrest you for that back east cause they sure as shit do in CA.?

Ridicule this a-hole and dems like CO’s Salazar, make them own it. Funny when the AP played the clip on the radio two hours ago they left out the wise parts of Biden’s remarks.

arnold ziffel on February 19, 2013 at 7:38 PM

Hey! Come on! It’s Joey ‘The Mouth’ Biden here! NO ONE expects anything intelligent to come out of his mouth.

BTW Joey, in Orange County this morning, a gun WIELDING A SHOTGUN, shot and killed three people.

So when can we expect Joey to announce a ban on…er…shotguns?

GarandFan on February 19, 2013 at 7:38 PM

Oops……..that’s ‘a guy wielding a shotgun……..

GarandFan on February 19, 2013 at 7:39 PM

“Keep Obama In President, You know! He gave us a shotgun! Ammo, Food Stamps, Social Security…”

Curtiss on February 19, 2013 at 7:41 PM

Does he realize that since there is No difference between arbitrarily defined ‘Assault Weapons’ and other arms such that shotguns could also be easily banned?

Is he recommending that women carry shotguns to protect themselves from rape?

Galt2009 on February 19, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Has anyone told Slow Joe about Dragons Breath rounds?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvuWNnKy6t8

sharrukin on February 19, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Absolutely. I’d love to get one of those street sweeper shotguns.

rbj on February 19, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Six shooter and Shotgun

VorDaj on February 19, 2013 at 7:43 PM

So when can we expect Joey to announce a ban on…er…shotguns?

GarandFan on February 19, 2013 at 7:38 PM

Just as soon as they get rid of AR-15s, ban “high capacity” magazines, and institute universal background checks (which is impossible without national registry of firearms and/or firearm owners).

Happy Nomad on February 19, 2013 at 7:43 PM

Joe, after watching that Obama pic of him with a shotgun, I fear buying one. If such an accomplished skeetist as his His messiahship can’t hold the danged thing right, how’s a little peon like me ever gonna learn? Now that little .44 magnum thing that Clint Eastwood (of the empty chair fame) flashes in those Dirty Harry movies….that’s a gun!

Don L on February 19, 2013 at 7:43 PM

Is he recommending that women carry shotguns to protect themselves from rape?

Galt2009 on February 19, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Nah, why would the gals need shotguns when they can buy whistles?

Happy Nomad on February 19, 2013 at 7:44 PM

I don’t own any shotguns, but if I did, the price point on this one would suit my frugal tastes.

Bmore on February 19, 2013 at 7:44 PM

Hey, can you take down a drone with a shotgun? Is there an open season yet? How do you cook the danged things?

Don L on February 19, 2013 at 7:45 PM

The irony in Joe’s statement:

I would agree that a shotgun might be easier to aim/hit something close range, that is of course if it’s a sawed off, short barrel. But of course those are already illegal.

A heartbeat away.

JusDreamin on February 19, 2013 at 7:46 PM

Oops……..that’s ‘a guy wielding a shotgun……..
GarandFan on February 19, 2013 at 7:39 PM

Or, in libspeak, a shotgun wielding a guy: you know it’s always the gun’s fault…

affenhauer on February 19, 2013 at 7:46 PM

Don L on February 19, 2013 at 7:45 PM

I don’t own one of these mind you, but if I did, I should think it might be capable of taking down a drone.

Bmore on February 19, 2013 at 7:48 PM

Just as soon as they get rid of AR-15s, ban “high capacity” magazines, and institute universal background checks (which is impossible without national registry of firearms and/or firearm owners).

Happy Nomad on February 19, 2013 at 7:43 PM

Shhhhhhhh – their plan is top secret – no one is supposed to know!

Pork-Chop on February 19, 2013 at 7:50 PM

I know I posted this on some other threads, but this kind of thing never gets old:

Andrew Kaczynski / BuzzFeed:
Missouri Lawmaker Introduces Bill To Make It A Felony To Propose Gun Control Legislation

Colbyjack on February 19, 2013 at 7:50 PM

Nah, why would the gals need shotguns when they can buy whistles?

Happy Nomad on February 19, 2013 at 7:44 PM

Who needs a whistle? just barf on command.
http://www.ibtimes.com/colorado-college-advises-vomiting-or-urinating-stop-rapists-after-lawmakers-pass-gun-control-bills

JusDreamin on February 19, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Nah, why would the gals need shotguns when they can buy whistles?
Happy Nomad on February 19, 2013 at 7:44 PM

Who needs a whistle? just barf on command.
http://www.ibtimes.com/colorado-college-advises-vomiting-or-urinating-stop-rapists-after-lawmakers-pass-gun-control-bills
JusDreamin on February 19, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Not a guarantee – some people are into that kind of thing…

affenhauer on February 19, 2013 at 7:57 PM

I’m thinking of getting a shotgun on the theory that just the sound of me pumping a shell into the chamber would discourage whoever might be prowling around the house and I might not have to shoot them — which I assume would be messy and a bit horrifying.

urban elitist on February 19, 2013 at 7:37 PM

Why the change of heart, UE?

Could have sworn months ago you were telling us two things:

1. No one would ever, ever break into your home, because that only happens in movies.

2. If anybody did, you’d use your manly muscles to fight them off with some combination of Krav Maga, a baseball bat and laser-beam eyes.

Good Solid B-Plus on February 19, 2013 at 7:59 PM

Since I can’t conceal a shotgun, I’ll just stick with my .38.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 19, 2013 at 8:00 PM

Has the USA ever had an elected official as stupid as Joe Biden?

jake-the-goose on February 19, 2013 at 7:22 PM

Certainly…Obama…Twice.

IFTYS on February 19, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Shotguns……and anything else you can find.

This is truly one area of the economy which they have stimulated.

That, and Planned Parenthood and their global desire to exterminate every minority they can (google: Margaret Sanger/weeds).

So, Joe there’s two you’ve helped.

PappyD61 on February 19, 2013 at 8:03 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on February 19, 2013 at 8:00 PM

Heh, just wait ’til you’ve played with a fun one Annie.

cozmo on February 19, 2013 at 8:05 PM

cozmo on February 19, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Paperwork went out today. It should arrive in Austin on Thursday, then the wait begins.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 19, 2013 at 8:07 PM

Un-freaking-beleivable! The Vice President of the United State of America has advised his own wife to fire a lethal weapon in an unknown situation, without knowing she is in mortal danger, with intent to scare someone while not having sufficient cause to shoot that person. That is about the most insane, legally unwise thing I have ever heard a prominent political figure say about guns.

Folks, shotguns do make good home defense weapons. They ARE easier to get on target, they deliver a devastating load at home defense ranges, and their configuration covers a lot of other potential mistakes. But when you pull the trigger you have to account for each and every one of those pellets. Where they go and what they do is your responsibility. And you never, ever, under any circumstances fire your only two rounds to scare the bad guy. There are lots of reasons he might not be scared off, like being smart enough to know you are now holding an empty gun.But from a legal aspect, if you don’t have enough reason to kill him you have no business pulling the trigger at all. If you accidentally injure or kill someone in that situation you will be charged with murder in most jurisdictions.

MikeA on February 19, 2013 at 8:07 PM

No matter how stupid you think Joe is………..just remember he beat the crap out of that robot Paul Ryan that tried to answer the questions like an adult.

America voted and they want a Black Marxist with a wife with hot arms and a dumb old white haired politician that talks like their senile old neighbor down the street (that’s lived in the same house since 1962.

……and the gop couldn’t beat them.

PappyD61 on February 19, 2013 at 8:08 PM

I’m wondering if Joe is really just trying to get his wife to shoot a SS agent. Maybe he wants out of that marriage.

warden on February 19, 2013 at 8:08 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on February 19, 2013 at 8:07 PM

Eight weeks last I checked into it.

Have you found a comfortable holster?

Some day you will be all growed up and get real carry gun.

cozmo on February 19, 2013 at 8:09 PM

What. A. Moron.

I’m a middle-aged woman and find my son’s M4 FAR easier to shot than a shotgun. It’s lighter and has very little recoil.

I’ve never been into my family’s shooting hobby before, but the insanity since Obama’s re-election has changed my mind and I’m currently shopping for a firearm for concealed carry. If I could afford it, I would hunt down another AR as well.

I have to do it now before the Dems running Colorado pass the universal background checks gun registration law.

Common Sense on February 19, 2013 at 8:09 PM

. . . . . most are content to leave those restricted on grounds that they’re too dangerous, just like most gun owners are content to leave machine guns and bazookas in the hands of the feds.

excerpt: Allahpundit

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Machine guns and bazookas are NOT “illegal”.

Machine guns (actually ALL fully automatic firearms) require an FFL#3, and bazookas require something above that.

Those Federal Firearms Licenses get a MUCH more thorough back-ground check, than a handgun permit.

listens2glenn on February 19, 2013 at 8:12 PM

There are too many underutilized walls in DC.

tom daschle concerned on February 19, 2013 at 8:12 PM

Oops……..that’s ‘a guy wielding a shotgun……..GarandFan on February 19, 2013 at 7:39 PM

No.according to lizards you were right the first time. It’s guns that kill, not people. Hence the urge to get people off murder raps. But johnny only wanted to mug someone but that reckless gun went off and kilt that victim /

AH_C on February 19, 2013 at 8:14 PM

Get a shotgun and make sure that it’s supports adding a magazine just took keep good ole Joe happy. As soon as my FOID card comes in the mail I’m gettin me one. Thanks for the idea:)!!!!

cmptrnerd on February 19, 2013 at 8:14 PM

cozmo on February 19, 2013 at 8:09 PM

This looks promising.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 19, 2013 at 8:16 PM

Give Joe a break.

He’s absolutely right.

You SHOULD be able to get at LEAST 25% off while you are paying asking price for your AR-15!

WryTrvllr on February 19, 2013 at 8:16 PM

cmptrnerd on February 19, 2013 at 8:14 PM

In Texas…there are no FOID cards.
*Evil laugh*

annoyinglittletwerp on February 19, 2013 at 8:17 PM

To get an idea how ingrained this whole fraud about the AR-15 is, look at mass shootings and the weapons used:

Assault rifles were NOT used in the following:

1. Blacksburg, 2007, 32 dead, 17 injured by gun: A .22-calibre Walther P22 semi-automatic handgun, and a 9 mm semi-automatic Glock 19 handgun.

2. Columbine, 1999, 13 dead, 21 injured: A 12-gauge Savage-Springfield 67H pump-action, Hi-Point 995 Carbine 9 mm carbine, shotgun, a 9 mm Intratec TEC-9 semi-automatic handgun, and a 12-gauge Stevens 311D double-barreled sawed-off shotgun.

3. Austin, 1966, 16 dead, 32 injured: A 12 gauge semi-automatic shotgun, a .35 calibre pump rifle, a .30 calibre carbine, Remington 700 6mm bolt-action hunting rifle, a 9mm Luger pistol, Smith & Wesson M19, .357 Magnum revolver, and a Galesi-Brescia .25-calibre pistol.

4. Tucson, 2011, 6 dead, 13 injured: A 9mm Glock 19 semi-automatic pistol.

5. Iowa City, 1991, 5 dead, 1 injured: A .38-calibre revolver.

6. Jonesboro, 1998, 5 killed, 10 injured: Two semi-automatic rifles, one bolt-action rifle and four handguns.

7. Chardon, 2012, 3 killed, 3 injured: A .22 calibre handgun.

8. Red Lake, 2005, 9 killed, 5 injured: A .22 calibre pistol, .40 calibre Glock 23 pistol and a Remington 870 12 gauge pump-action shotgun.

9. Springfield, 1985, 3 killed, 7 injured: A Ruger 10/22.

10. Fullerton, 1976, 7 killed, 2 injured: A .22 calibre semi-automatic rifle.

11. Nickel Mines, 2006, 5 killed, 5 injured: A Springfield XD 9 mm handgun, a Browning BPS 12 gauge pump-action shotgun, and a Ruger M77 .30-06 bolt action rifle.

12. Sikh temple, 2012, 6 killed, 4 injured: A Springfield XD(M) semi-automatic pistol.

13. Paducah, KY, 1997, 3 killed, 5 injured: A 22 caliber long rifle, a 12 gauge pump-action shotgun, and a Ruger MK II .22-caliber pistol.

14. Howard Johnson’s New Orleans, 1973, 9 killed, 13 injured: A Ruger Model 44 carbine (.44 Magnum) and a Colt .38-caliber revolver.
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“Assault weapons”/”assault rifle” – along with other weapons in some cases – used in:

1. Aurora, 2012, 12 dead, 58 injured by gun and other: A a tear gas grenade, a Smith & Wesson M&P15 rifle, a Remington 870 Express Tactical shotgun, and 2 Glock .22 handguns.

2. Cleveland Elementary School in Stockton, 1989, 5 dead, 30 injured by gun: A Type 56 semi-automatic rifle and Taurus PT92 9mm pistol.

3. San Ysidro McDonalds, 1984, 21 dead and 19 injured: An Uzi carbine, a Browning HP, and a 12-gauge Winchester 1200.

4. Clackamas, 2012, 2 dead and 1 injured: An AR-15 semi-automatic rifle.

5. Newtown, 2012, 28 dead and 2 injured: An AR-15 semi-automatic rifle.
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For all of the focus on the AR-15 driven by politicians and the media, the gun was used in only THREE of the incidents that they typically cited:

1. Clackamas: A Bushmaster AR-15 semi-automatic rifle.

2. Newtown: A Bushmaster AR-15 semi-automatic rifle.

3. Aurora: A Smith & Wesson M&P15 rifle

As an aside, Jonesboro, Columbine, Paducah, and Springfield happened when the last AWB was in effect.
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4.2%: Percentage of ALL gun-related homicides in 2011 committed with shotguns.

3.8%: Percentage of ALL gun-related homicides in 2011 committed with rifles of ALL KINDS, INCLUDING “ASSAULT RIFLES.”

Less than 2%: Percentage of inmates incarcerated for gun-related crimes that used a military-style “assault weapon,” according to the Congressional Research Service.

More people die from shotguns than “assault rifles”/”assault weapons;” yet, Biden won’t let go of that AR-15 chewtoy.

Resist We Much on February 19, 2013 at 8:17 PM

Why get a Bren or a crack-barrel 12ga like Biden, when you can upgrade to an air rifle a la Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels?

“Charles, get the rifle. We’re being f@#$ed.”

NSFW

Christien on February 19, 2013 at 8:17 PM

Don L on February 19, 2013 at 7:45 PM

I don’t own one of these mind you, but if I did, I should think it might be capable of taking down a drone.

Bmore on February 19, 2013 at 7:48 PM

Wow, does that metal monster come with an ankle holster and is it legal for snipe shooting?

Don L on February 19, 2013 at 8:18 PM

My Mossberg holds 8 rounds. I’m sure that would be banned soon enough by these jackholes.

Don’t panic! Sheriff Joe insists you be able to keep that shotgun after the Omnibus Firearms Bill of 2014 is passed – but you will be limited to rock salt shells only. Those are all you really need for those pesky those campus rapists.

VengeanceIsMine on February 19, 2013 at 8:22 PM

This looks promising.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 19, 2013 at 8:16 PM

Not available for wheel guns.

cozmo on February 19, 2013 at 8:24 PM

Does Biden know you can’t find bullets for a 12 gauge these days? What good is a shotgun without bullets?

Christien on February 19, 2013 at 8:25 PM

Christien on February 19, 2013 at 8:25 PM

Heck, 12guage is about the only thing I wave that I can find shells (including slugs) for now. Though I did see some .357 (wrong bullet size though) last time I was at Wal-Mart.

cozmo on February 19, 2013 at 8:28 PM

cozmo on February 19, 2013 at 8:24 PM

You lie.
S&W .38 BodyGuard is on the list.
Neener.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 19, 2013 at 8:29 PM

It’s worse than I thought. Earlier I made a point re the AP leaving the part about firing off the balcony out. Just heard a replay and the press is just fine with fire for effect. Love it. Tonight when I’m scared or think I might get scared later, I’ll go fire off some rounds. Unfortunately the woods are about three miles away. Driveway, roadway, woods, it’s all good.

arnold ziffel on February 19, 2013 at 8:31 PM

Neener.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 19, 2013 at 8:29 PM

Okay, but try it…nener, nener.

cozmo on February 19, 2013 at 8:31 PM

MKA 1919? Or a sweet KSG?

Sure. Okay.

But I’m still not going to agree other guns should be banned.

But if some nutcase goes on a killing spree, those shotguns will guarantee more death than an AR-15.

ButterflyDragon on February 19, 2013 at 8:32 PM

ButterflyDragon on February 19, 2013 at 8:32 PM

I drool for that Akdal…

cozmo on February 19, 2013 at 8:35 PM

I’m thinking of getting a shotgun on the theory that just the sound of me pumping a shell into the chamber would discourage whoever might be prowling around the house and I might not have to shoot them — which I assume would be messy and a bit horrifying.

urban elitist on February 19, 2013 at 7:37 PM

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I certainly agree with you that shooting any live mammalian creature INSIDE your house will be somewhat “messy”.
Even if it’s a mouse, shot with .22 Long Rifle “snake-shot”.

Killing another human being will be “a bit horrifying” no matter where it takes place. The ONLY reason for doing so is to save yourself, or another person from imminent danger.

But since you were talking specifically “around the house”, you could get a burglar alarm that when tripped would play the sound of a pump-action shotgun jacking a shell into the chamber. Make sure small, hidden speakers are strategically located around and throughout your home. VOILA ! … No gun needed. Well … to your way of thinking, perhaps.

Personally, I’d keep a real shotgun, in addition to the aforementioned burglar alarm. Also a couple of handguns, and an AR-15 with “high-capacity” magazines.

But suit yourself.

listens2glenn on February 19, 2013 at 8:35 PM

Does a double barrel fire one bullet at a time or two? Or do you have to pump it each time to load another bullet from the clip into the cylinder?

Christien on February 19, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Of course, I’m partial to any shotgun that Feinstein might want to ban. Especially if it has a barrel shroud, pistol grip and a drum! Saiga anyone? How about a belt fed shotgun?

ProfShadow on February 19, 2013 at 7:30 PM

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Looks like someone’s been watching “FPSRussia” on youtube. : )

listens2glenn on February 19, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Joe puts the loony in the bin.

MCGIRV on February 19, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Does a double barrel fire one bullet at a time or two? Or do you have to pump it each time to load another bullet from the clip into the cylinder?

Christien on February 19, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Google is your friend

koaiko on February 19, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Does a double barrel fire one bullet at a time or two? Or do you have to pump it each time to load another bullet from the clip into the cylinder?

Christien on February 19, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Please tell me this is sarcasm?

sharrukin on February 19, 2013 at 8:41 PM

The “hunters and Target shooters” line dates back to Kerry during the campaign. He would stick out his hand palm down when he said “Hunters” and flip it over to say “target shooters” or sportsmen, which is to say that anything beyond that, like self-defense and defense against Tyranny was a non-starter, framing the debate as though there was only to sides.

Libs WORK at this language destruction. Instead of saying, “Americans have a right to weapons under the 2nd and as Commander and Chief I would have an oath to defend that”, we get these smarmy half truths with the ugly agenda hidden behind the curtain.

This nation is arming up like I have never seen before. Someone is going to push too far.

Bulletchaser on February 19, 2013 at 8:42 PM

Uncle Joe lives in a somewhat secluded area surrounded by armed secret service agents 24/7

iceman1960 on February 19, 2013 at 8:42 PM

Dang that guy has a high pitched voice..yikes

sadsushi on February 19, 2013 at 8:43 PM

koaiko on February 19, 2013 at 8:40 PM

That was too easy.

Christien on February 19, 2013 at 8:44 PM

This nation is arming up like I have never seen before. Someone is going to push too far.

Bulletchaser on February 19, 2013 at 8:42 PM

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We know … but we’re all still praying “too far” doesn’t happen.

listens2glenn on February 19, 2013 at 8:45 PM

koaiko on February 19, 2013 at 8:40 PM

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That was too easy.

Christien
on February 19, 2013 at 8:44 PM

.
Ok ….. what answers did you come up with?

listens2glenn on February 19, 2013 at 8:46 PM

listens2glenn on February 19, 2013 at 8:12 PM

No. You don’t need to get an FFL to get full-auto stuff, or “destructive devices”.
Just send ATF a Form 1 or Form 4, fingerprints, check for $200.00 ($5 for an AOW) and be prepared to wait for what seems to be f.o.r.e.v.e.r. (It’s running 8 to 10 months now)
Then, they send you the tax stamp and you go pick up your new toy.

Solaratov on February 19, 2013 at 8:46 PM

This looks promising.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 19, 2013 at 8:16 PM

Not available for wheel guns.

cozmo on February 19, 2013 at 8:24 PM

It says it fits the S&W Bodyguard .38 – which is a J-frame Smith. Same size as what ALT has.

Solaratov on February 19, 2013 at 8:49 PM

listens2glenn on February 19, 2013 at 8:46 PM

I didn’t check google, so I didn’t get any google results.

Christien on February 19, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Hey, Joe, can I put the bayonet back on my ’97?/

S. D. on February 19, 2013 at 8:51 PM

It also lists “J Frame revolver”.

Solaratov on February 19, 2013 at 8:51 PM

some .357 (wrong bullet size though) last time I was at Wal-Mart.

cozmo on February 19, 2013 at 8:28 PM

Wrong bullet size for what?

Solaratov on February 19, 2013 at 8:53 PM

arnold ziffel on February 19, 2013 at 8:31 PM

No problem Arnie, when the cops show up, just tell ‘em you were scared sh1tless, then play them a tape of Biden’s greatest hits.
Yep, that should do it.

In all seriousness though, did our Vice President just give license to people to be completely irresponsible with firearms?

JusDreamin on February 19, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Solaratov on February 19, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Actually, I own a Bodyguard.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 19, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Solaratov on February 19, 2013 at 8:49 PM

I saw that later. Its one thing to make that holster, quite another to use it.

Wrong bullet size for what?

Solaratov on February 19, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Desert Eagle, it doesn’t like the lighter weight bullets.

cozmo on February 19, 2013 at 8:56 PM

listens2glenn on February 19, 2013 at 8:12 PM

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No. You don’t need to get an FFL to get full-auto stuff, or “destructive devices”.
Just send ATF a Form 1 or Form 4, fingerprints, check for $200.00 ($5 for an AOW) and be prepared to wait for what seems to be f.o.r.e.v.e.r. (It’s running 8 to 10 months now)
Then, they send you the tax stamp and you go pick up your new toy.

Solaratov on February 19, 2013 at 8:46 PM

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The one (1) individual I’ve met who went through the process, told it to me the way I recounted it, above. However ….. that was fifteen years ago, and things do change.
His was some model by Heckler-Koch, and he showed me his license at work, one day. It had Janet Reno’s signature on it. I told him it probably gave her heartburn, to have to sign that.

listens2glenn on February 19, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Sheriff Joe should have noted that ladies like Jill should stick with a 12ga, because a 20ga is heavier and bucks harder. They’re harder to find, but a 10ga is ideal.

Christien on February 19, 2013 at 8:58 PM

In all seriousness though, did our Vice President just give license to people to be completely irresponsible with firearms?

JusDreamin on February 19, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Yes he apparently did. Note the “advice” coming from a long time gun hater, completely ignorant of them and the press not even missing a stroke when reporting his nonsense.

arnold ziffel on February 19, 2013 at 8:59 PM

The bullet would be fine, the cartridge is a problem.

S. D. on February 19, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Wow, I better hit the hay. Cosmo is not ALT.

S. D. on February 19, 2013 at 9:01 PM

How Did Massachusetts Gun Ban And Other Control Laws Passed In 1998 Workout?

1998: The year Massachusetts passed what was hailed as the “toughest gun-control legislation in the country.”

1.5 million: Number of active gun licences in Massachusetts in 1998.

200,000: Number of active gun licences in Massachusetts in 2002.

65: Number of homicides in Massachusetts in 1998.

122: Number of homicides in Massachusetts in 2011.

1.9 per 100,000: The Massachusetts murder rate in 1997.

2.8 per 100,000: The Massachusetts murder rate in 2011 and represented a rise relative to the rest of the nation, which was decreasing.

6.8 per 100,000: The United States murder rate in 1997 (when the AWB was in place).

4.7 per 100,000: The United States murder rate in 2011 (7 years after the expiration of the AWB).

20.7%: Percentage of increase in robberies with firearms between 1998 and 2011.

26.7%: Percentage of increase in aggravated assault with firearms between 1998 and 2011.

70%: Percentage of Massachusetts’ murder rate that equaled the rate for Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Connecticut, Rhode Island, and New York in 1998.

125%: Percentage of Massachusetts’ murder rate that equaled the rate for Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Connecticut, Rhode Island, and New York in 2012.

1998: The year Massachusetts State Senator Richard Moore accurately predicted: “Much of what has been said in support of this bill will not come to pass. The amount of crime we have now will at least continue.”

Resist We Much on February 19, 2013 at 9:02 PM

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