Chris Christie: I agree with Andrew Cuomo on probably 98% of the issues

posted at 5:21 pm on February 19, 2013 by Allahpundit

Allegedly.

[Bulman] said when he told Mr. Christie he is from upstate New York, “he said, ‘I’m not much different from Andrew Cuomo. I probably agree with him on 98% of the issues.’ ” Mr. Bulman said Gov. Christie “sees value in the building trades, which are private sector unions. He complimented us and said he uses us as an example of a pro-business union.”

(SNIP)

Mr. Bulman, asked if he thinks Gov. Christie will run for president, said, “I don’t know, but he talked about Israel, and he wanted to make sure we knew he had been traveling abroad.”

C’mon, it’s not true that Christie agrees with Cuomo on most things. Christie’s a famous budget-cutter and union-tamer; Cuomo’s a, er, budget-cutter and union-tamer. Cuomo’s outspoken about gun control; Christie’s, um, outspoken about gun control. Cuomo believes in a path to citizenship for illegals; Christie believes in … a path to citizenship for illegals. Cuomo believes that human activity is contributing to climate change; Christie … also believes that human activity is contributing to climate change. Cuomo’s a big fan of Barack Obama; ahem.

Cuomo’s very, very pro-choice while Christie’s pro-life, so there you go. There’s the two percent. Via the Corner, here’s the man himself addressing what he did or didn’t say about their similarities. Exit question: What if Hillary doesn’t run and we end up with a Cuomo vs. Christie race in 2016? Second look at a Rand Paul independent bid?


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wth is it with all the Christie-hate these days??

Like this:

I seriously, seriously detest Chris Christie. No way in hell I’m voting for him – not even if Obama illegally seeks a third term. That backstabbing, attention-whore, fat-ass of a loud-mouth conservative-bashing RINO will never get my vote, no matter what.

A Rand Paul third-party bid? Sign me up.

DRayRaven on February 19, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Name two or three good reasons that make Christie so “detestable”…

JetBoy on February 19, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Ann Coulter hardest hit.

Conservative Street cred of the Coulter shattered.

PappyD61 on February 19, 2013 at 7:04 PM

I can’t stand Christie, personally.

KingGold on February 19, 2013 at 5:39 PM

If you didn’t think his photo op with Obama helped torpedo Mr Electable, you’d be saying Christie HAS to be nominated if the GOP hopes to win ever again.

ddrintn on February 19, 2013 at 7:05 PM

Name two or three good reasons that make Christie so “detestable”…

JetBoy on February 19, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Maybe it’s those mind-numbed followers of the Christie Personality Cult. Aren’t you the official Personality Cult Monitor? Anyway, read the original post.

ddrintn on February 19, 2013 at 7:07 PM

Come on people……if you’re a “republican” in the Northeast you’re just a Democrat that likes to pretend you’re different.

….either that or it was easier to win the primary on the gop side because no one would run.

PappyD61 on February 19, 2013 at 7:08 PM

KingGold, as a female I take huge issue with your statement regarding Palin. She was trashed ad nauseam, pure and simple being drug over broken crystal naked all the while you Pug males rolled over on your backs with your legs in the air. You don’t deny this as well. She kicked Biden’s ass in that debate soundly but more importantly, the treatment that we allowed her to sustain by herself was nauseating. In all candor QueenGold Republican Males are wimps, always on the verge of tears whether participating in politics or observing. Oh they can beat a pots and pans and write a decent article but when it’s show time? Where are the men? They’re nowhere to be found and that hasn’t changed on molecular whiff in 4 years which is why I reregistered Independent. I couldn’t stomach watching our male representatives crawling in circles on the floor, as demanded by Obama, trying to get some dignity back when the opposite should have been true. Ladies, we have to face a strong assumption here in that we’re in this fight against progressivism alone because all evidence points to republican males having evolved into nothing more than eunuch’s.

Tangerinesong on February 19, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Name two or three good reasons that make Christie so “detestable”…

JetBoy on February 19, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Reason One

Reason two

Reason 3

Reason 4

I could go on.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Come on people……if you’re a “republican” in the Northeast you’re just a Democrat that likes to pretend you’re different.

….either that or it was easier to win the primary on the gop side because no one would run.

PappyD61 on February 19, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Paging Arlen Specter. Arlen Specter, you have a call on the white courtesy phone.

/heh

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 7:12 PM

Paging Arlen Specter. Arlen Specter, you have a call on the white courtesy phone.

/heh

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 7:12 PM

Don’t worry about him. He used to be a Democrat and switched to Republican so he should be one of the strongest conservatives we have or so says Kinggold. /

sharrukin on February 19, 2013 at 7:16 PM

JetBoy on February 19, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Aren’t you the official Personality Cult Monitor? Anyway, read the original post.

ddrintn on February 19, 2013 at 7:07 PM

That’s gonna leave a mark.

portlandon on February 19, 2013 at 7:17 PM

KingGold, as a female I take huge issue with your statement regarding Palin. She was trashed ad nauseam, pure and simple being drug over broken crystal naked all the while you Pug males rolled over on your backs with your legs in the air. You don’t deny this as well. She kicked Biden’s ass in that debate soundly but more importantly, the treatment that we allowed her to sustain by herself was nauseating. In all candor QueenGold Republican Males are wimps, always on the verge of tears whether participating in politics or observing. Oh they can beat a pots and pans and write a decent article but when it’s show time? Where are the men? They’re nowhere to be found and that hasn’t changed on molecular whiff in 4 years which is why I reregistered Independent. I couldn’t stomach watching our male representatives crawling in circles on the floor, as demanded by Obama, trying to get some dignity back when the opposite should have been true. Ladies, we have to face a strong assumption here in that we’re in this fight against progressivism alone because all evidence points to republican males having evolved into nothing more than eunuch’s.

Tangerinesong on February 19, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Oooooooh. Our White Knight, Mirror of Chivalry, Protector of Fair Ladies is NOT going to like that one bit.

ddrintn on February 19, 2013 at 7:18 PM

He denies it.

Schadenfreude on February 19, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Jetboy. I’ll give you three.

1. Stabbing Romney in the back before the election.. aka the hug. Christie knew exactly wat was happening there.

2. Bloviating over Sandy relief for cheap political points after lots of Republicans.. Boehner and Ryan at the forefront had had to do take a political ugly vote and give Obama a pound of flesh. I thought you liked Boehner. Doesn’t it annoy you that Obama beat the guy up and then Christie piled on?

3. His entire schtick is wearing thin. Both Rubio and Christie had minor controversies recently. El Salvador Republicano came out ahead on that one.

Illinidiva on February 19, 2013 at 7:22 PM

Haven’t you heard? Chris Christie’s a Northeastern moderate Republican so therefore he’s pro-choice, not pro-life. Because all Republicans north of the Mason-Dixon line are pro-choice. Tons of commenters here say so, so check your sources, please.

/

KingGold on February 19, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Explain Susan Collins vote for cloture on Chuck Hagen last week.

Then explain to us if Mike Castle would have voted for or against Cloture.

Then explain to us how Coons voted for cloture, but if Mike Castle had won, how his vote would be different.

portlandon on February 19, 2013 at 7:22 PM

Cuomo’s very, very pro-choice while Christie’s pro-life, so there you go.

Haven’t you heard? Chris Christie’s a Northeastern moderate Republican so therefore he’s pro-choice, not pro-life. Because all Republicans north of the Mason-Dixon line are pro-choice. Tons of commenters here say so, so check your sources, please.

/

KingGold on February 19, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Not as many as you think…I live in the south and don’t know one pro-life Republican. This is a non political issue, however, Dems love bringing up every 4 years.

Redford on February 19, 2013 at 7:23 PM

When this character blustered one time at the teacher’s union, millions of conservatives started screaming for him as the next president…and we think the left is stupid.

Don L on February 19, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Name two or three good reasons that make Christie so “detestable”…

JetBoy on February 19, 2013 at 7:01 PM

1. His adoration of Barack Obama just prior to the election
2. He attacks anyone who opposes sharia
3. He is anti-second amendment
4. He is pro illegal alien
5. He is a proponent of global warming

You asked for 2-3. I gave you 5 and I am just warming up.

About the only positive I can think of about the Fatman is that he is pro-life (and obviously pro-Burger King)

bw222 on February 19, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Not as many as you think…I live in the south and don’t know one pro-life Republican. This is a non political issue, however, Dems love bringing up every 4 years.

Redford on February 19, 2013 at 7:23 PM

You need to get out more.

ddrintn on February 19, 2013 at 7:32 PM

He denies it.

Schadenfreude on February 19, 2013 at 7:19 PM

So in other words, what we have here is Romney redux. Brilliant.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Being a Conservative in New Jersey I find CC to be more hype than substance. If CC is the direction of the Republican Party count me out.

alanstern on February 19, 2013 at 7:34 PM

Ann Coulter hardest hit.

Conservative Street cred of the Coulter shattered.

PappyD61 on February 19, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Acid Ann lost me when she stabbed Sarah Palin in the back for the RINO’s R us party.

Don L on February 19, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Being a Conservative in New Jersey I find CC to be more hype than substance. If CC is the direction of the Republican Party count me out.

alanstern on February 19, 2013 at 7:34 PM

CC is the Republican Party and has been ever since at least 1988.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 7:35 PM

It’s how you view those nasty “TrueCons”. They’re the ones standing in the way of the Squishy Pathway to Victory.

ddrintn on February 19, 2013 at 5:36 PM

This problem would be solved if the “TrueCons” could come up with a candidate that people want to vote for. That would help enormously.

All you’ve been doing for the last year was to blame the RINOs for the fact that there wasn’t an electable “TrueCon” candidate.

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 7:36 PM

KingGold on February 19, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Son, you are one of the last people on earth to give an opinion on who i electable.

katy the mean old lady on February 19, 2013 at 7:38 PM

Ann Coulter is really an elitist, but she plays a conservative to sell books and make money off TV appearance.

bw222 on February 19, 2013 at 7:39 PM

This problem would be solved if the “TrueCons” could come up with a candidate that people want to vote for. That would help enormously.

All you’ve been doing for the last year was to blame the RINOs for the fact that there wasn’t an electable “TrueCon” candidate.

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 7:36 PM

Sarah Palin!

No? How about…

Herman Cain!

Nuh uh? Then gee. I dunno.

Considering that I’ve been shafted out of a meaningful primary vote for a good long time now (and that got even worse in 2012), my ability to influence the nominating process is nil. But I think the “truecons” are finding out what Sarah Palin knew years ago: There is no room left in the Republican Party for good, decent people.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 7:39 PM

Christie is like John McCain in that he would rather attack conservative Republicans than liberal Democrats.

bw222 on February 19, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Reason One

Reason two

Reason 3

Reason 4

I could go on.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Do you get all your Christie info from one blog?

Reason 1: Christie was spot-on by saying Obama’s kids should be left out of that.

Reason 2: Christie is right…an armed guard at every school wouldn’t make a dang bit of difference.

Reason 3: At that time, Christie thanked Obama for seeing the devastation from Sandy and making his promises…promises Obama didn’t keep, but that wasn’t known then. What do you prefer Christie do, put The One in a headlock and give him a purple nurple?

Reason 4: What’s so horrible about funding AIDS-related health centers?

That’s one weak argument for calling Christie detestable.

JetBoy on February 19, 2013 at 7:41 PM

Do you get all your Christie info from one blog?

Reason 1: Christie was spot-on by saying Obama’s kids should be left out of that.

Reason 2: Christie is right…an armed guard at every school wouldn’t make a dang bit of difference.

Reason 3: At that time, Christie thanked Obama for seeing the devastation from Sandy and making his promises…promises Obama didn’t keep, but that wasn’t known then. What do you prefer Christie do, put The One in a headlock and give him a purple nurple?

Reason 4: What’s so horrible about funding AIDS-related health centers?

That’s one weak argument for calling Christie detestable.

JetBoy on February 19, 2013 at 7:41 PM

There were secondary sources.

But if you wanna go ahead and be a chubby chaser, you go right on ahead. Christie stands as good a chance as any prospective Republican at scoring the 2016 nomination. And as God is my witness, he will lose at least as badly in the general election as Romney did.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 7:44 PM

If Chris Christie gets the GOP Presidential nomination, it will be the end of the party. I definitely will vote third party. Were it not for Sarah Palin, I would have voted third party in 2008.

bw222 on February 19, 2013 at 7:47 PM

1. His adoration of Barack Obama just prior to the election
2. He attacks anyone who opposes sharia
3. He is anti-second amendment
4. He is pro illegal alien
5. He is a proponent of global warming

You asked for 2-3. I gave you 5 and I am just warming up.

About the only positive I can think of about the Fatman is that he is pro-life (and obviously pro-Burger King)

bw222 on February 19, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Got an example of each?

1. Stabbing Romney in the back before the election.. aka the hug. Christie knew exactly wat was happening there.

2. Bloviating over Sandy relief for cheap political points after lots of Republicans.. Boehner and Ryan at the forefront had had to do take a political ugly vote and give Obama a pound of flesh. I thought you liked Boehner. Doesn’t it annoy you that Obama beat the guy up and then Christie piled on?

3. His entire schtick is wearing thin. Both Rubio and Christie had minor controversies recently. El Salvador Republicano came out ahead on that one.

Illinidiva on February 19, 2013 at 7:22 PM

1: This hug is right after Sandy devastated Jersey, NY, and Conn. DEVASTATED.

2: Yeah, I like Boehner…but he did the wrong thing by putting that Sandy relief bill on the back burner…before having to regret that decision. There’s no politician I agree with and blindly support 100% of the time. Christie was right to get angry.

3: What “shtick” are you talking about?

Sheesh.

JetBoy on February 19, 2013 at 7:48 PM

But if you wanna go ahead and be a chubby chaser, you go right on ahead. Christie stands as good a chance as any prospective Republican at scoring the 2016 nomination. And as God is my witness, he will lose at least as badly in the general election as Romney did.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 7:44 PM

So…here come the fat references… That’s pretty sad.

JetBoy on February 19, 2013 at 7:52 PM

So…here come the fat references… That’s pretty sad.

JetBoy on February 19, 2013 at 7:52 PM

You know what else is pretty sad, Jet? That Christie has to disavow himself from his own remarks. I take that back. It’s not sad. It’s pathetic. Commonplace, I know, but pathetic.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 7:54 PM

Sarah Palin!

No? How about…

Herman Cain!

Nuh uh? Then gee. I dunno.

There is no room left in the Republican Party for good, decent people.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 7:39 PM

I was a huge fan of Sarah Palin, and then of Cain, but in hindsight I must admit that he was a shallow candidate. I defended him, but I cringed, especially when he talked about Foreign Policy. It was not good enough for the national stage.

Palin didn’t run.

Romney is a good and decent man. He was a bad politician.

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 7:54 PM

So we’ll give examples of why we find Christie detestable, and Jet will turn around and tell us why he doesn’t think it’s a big deal. YMMV, I suppose, but I really think we’re headed back up the same road we went down in 2012. Obama will groom a successor, and the pathetic pseudoconservative hack the GOP fields will lose decisively yet again.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 7:56 PM

Reason 3: At that time, Christie thanked Obama for seeing the devastation from Sandy and making his promises…promises Obama didn’t keep, but that wasn’t known then. What do you prefer Christie do, put The One in a headlock and give him a purple nurple?
JetBoy on February 19, 2013 at 7:41 PM

Do what any conservative does, reward people for positive RESULTS.

astonerii on February 19, 2013 at 7:58 PM

Romney is a good and decent man. He was a bad politician.

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 7:54 PM

He was not a good and decent man. He spent his entire life distancing himself from conservatism until he needed conservative votes.

Exhibit A (start at about :50 in)

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 8:00 PM

So we’ll give examples of why we find Christie detestable, and Jet will turn around and tell us why he doesn’t think it’s a big deal. YMMV, I suppose, but I really think we’re headed back up the same road we went down in 2012. Obama will groom a successor, and the pathetic pseudoconservative hack the GOP fields will lose decisively yet again.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 7:56 PM

I always thought you were better than that gryph.

And I didn’t simply brush aside your supposed examples of Christie’s detestability…I told you and other WHY they are not. There are far more important things to like or dislike in politicians and their actions than stoopit crud like that.

JetBoy on February 19, 2013 at 8:03 PM

New Jersey has been a lost cause since FDR.
Too bad, it was a decent place before their tax & spend habid got completely out of control.
Christy is (was?) making an effort to rectify that ‘issue’.
BUT, I’m sorry he’s still a GGSH. (Gun Grabbing Scheistkoff)

Missilengr on February 19, 2013 at 8:04 PM

Name two or three good reasons that make Christie so “detestable”…

JetBoy on February 19, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Gun control. Snuggling up to Zero in the wake of Sandy. Being too cozy w/ radical islam/supporting the GZ Mosque.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 19, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Two words to describe Chris Christie…phat phuck.

IFTYS on February 19, 2013 at 8:06 PM

I always thought you were better than that gryph.

JetBoy on February 19, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Better than what, Jet? You did indeed brush aside my reasons for finding Christie detestable, but I’m not “better” than that because you and I have a difference of opinion?

Look, I can understand the visceral reflexive disgust with the modern Democrat Party. I can not understand the raging desire of some to believe that it renders the Republican Party incapable of nominating and/or employing mercenary scum!

Not Democrat =/= Conservative

And I am well-and-truly sorry if this does indeed lower your opinion of me, but I am proud to say that I’ve always put what is right before what is popular. Presidential politics is no exception to that rule for me.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 8:07 PM

Ann Coulter hardest hit.

Conservative Street cred of the Coulter shattered.

PappyD61 on February 19, 2013 at 7:04 PM

First Romney and now this? She might as well join Rove’s group.

Ukiah on February 19, 2013 at 8:08 PM

Gun control. Snuggling up to Zero in the wake of Sandy. Being too cozy w/ radical islam/supporting the GZ Mosque.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 19, 2013 at 8:05 PM

But Twerp, you have to understand none of that is what it looks like.

/Jetboy

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 8:08 PM

Big.Fat.Rino!

Rockshine on February 19, 2013 at 8:09 PM

JetBoy

1. The hug was over the top and it was all about Christie getting reelected and running for President. He had to know that this helped Obama win and he didn’t care. It helped Christie. Just like the keynote address was about Christie.

2. This happened right after Boehner expended all his political capital on the fiscal cliff bill. He didn’t have any capital to expend. The pork filed monstrosity got passed a few weeks later.

3. The whole bullying Jersey thing.. You catch more flies with honey. Both Christie and Rubio had mini controversies as of late. Mr Sunshine’s handling of water gate has been pretty genius. Christie’s handling of the weight issue was thin skinned.

Illinidiva on February 19, 2013 at 8:12 PM

He was not a good and decent man. He spent his entire life distancing himself from conservatism until he needed conservative votes.

Exhibit A (start at about :50 in)

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 8:00 PM

Ronald Reagan and Rick Perry were Democrats. Breitbart was a liberal.

Churchill changed his party affiliation like other people change their underwear, because he wanted to get elected.

You are going to dismiss all of them?

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 8:14 PM

That’s one weak argument for calling Christie detestable.

JetBoy on February 19, 2013 at 7:41 PM

JB, you’re wrong on every count. And Christie is a fat, detestable liberal jerk.

Jaibones on February 19, 2013 at 8:14 PM

What if Hillary doesn’t run and we end up with a Cuomo vs. Christie race in 2016?

i will give up on america, move to antarctica, and start my own country.

Sachiko on February 19, 2013 at 8:17 PM

Ronald Reagan…

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 8:14 PM

Switched to Republican in 1962. More than a decade before he ran for president and four years before he ran for governor.

sharrukin on February 19, 2013 at 8:17 PM

And I am well-and-truly sorry if this does indeed lower your opinion of me, but I am proud to say that I’ve always put what is right before what is popular. Presidential politics is no exception to that rule for me.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 8:07 PM

Think about the bold text there.

Christie does what’s “right” and, given so many detractors around here, certainly doesn’t do those things for popularity.

JetBoy on February 19, 2013 at 8:19 PM

IFTYS on February 19, 2013 at 8:06 PM

I’m married to a fat guy. Don’t knock it-’til you’ve tried it.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 19, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Switched to Republican in 1962. More than a decade before he ran for president and four years before he ran for governor.

sharrukin on February 19, 2013 at 8:17 PM

He had a long period in business where he learned why conservatism was superior as well…

astonerii on February 19, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Ronald Reagan and Rick Perry were Democrats. Breitbart was a liberal.

Churchill changed his party affiliation like other people change their underwear, because he wanted to get elected.

You are going to dismiss all of them?

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 8:14 PM

Are you going to dismiss all of them as sellouts? Reagan was not a sellout. He never distanced himself from conservatism. Quite to the contrary, he (along with Breitbart) distanced themselves from liberalism. And I never had any reason to believe that it was some cheap political trick.

As for Perry, I’m not sure he ever left his Dem leanings behind, given the Texas Curriculum flap, or the way he tried to muscle through the Trans-Texas corridor, but I would have reluctantly supported him over the godfather of Romneycare.

But to make a long story short, you’d have to believe that in just three-and-a-half short years Christie would have an a-ha moment and decide that he was wrong all this time in the 98% of things he agrees with Andrew Cuomo about. Doesn’t that beg credulity? Or are you really that stupid hungry to get a Republican in office that you don’t care who it is?

Democrats don’t have a monopoly on mercenary political scumbags. Chris Christie is not only not immune to criticism, but he often invites it. Andrew Breitbart, Winston Churchill, and Ronald Reagan have nothing to do with the political future of our country or the very existential danger we are in. These truths should be self-evident to many, but we are caught in a terrible terrible normalcy bias. That scares me far more than the thought of nominating a RINO in 2016.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 8:21 PM

He had a long period in business where he learned why conservatism was superior as well…

astonerii on February 19, 2013 at 8:19 PM

And at a time when the left was drifting towards embracing the nanny state in a big way.

sharrukin on February 19, 2013 at 8:23 PM

Think about the bold text there.

Christie does what’s “right” and, given so many detractors around here, certainly doesn’t do those things for popularity.

JetBoy on February 19, 2013 at 8:19 PM

He doesn’t. He does what is popular in New Jersey. What happened in Wisconsin should be proof-positive to any right-thinking person that Chris Christie did nothing of any material substance to bust the unions in New Jersey. Governor Scott Walker probably nuked any possibility of running for federal office by doing the right thing. I guaran-damn-tee you, if it means licking Dem boot soles, Chris Christie will NEVER do anything that might jeopardize his chance at a presidential run.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 8:23 PM

Y’all certainly don’t need my permission to vote for whoever you want to in 2014 and going forward. Regardless, I smell a huge steaming stinking pile of normalcy bias. That sense of business-as-usual is really the biggest danger our nation has ever faced. I question how many self-professiong “conservatives” even understand what is at-stake here, and it saddens me beyond words.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 8:26 PM

1. The hug was over the top and it was all about Christie getting reelected and running for President. He had to know that this helped Obama win and he didn’t care. It helped Christie. Just like the keynote address was about Christie.

Tell me how, exactly, did the keynote speech benefit Christie? He was invited…he didn’t beg to do it. And it’s a huge stretch to say Christie made Obama win. Again…the Jersey shore was…say it with me…DEVASTATED. A lot of it still is. Just because Christie didn’t kick Obama in the nuts the minute he got off the plane doesn’t make him and The One best buds.

2. This happened right after Boehner expended all his political capital on the fiscal cliff bill. He didn’t have any capital to expend. The pork filed monstrosity got passed a few weeks later.

I agree that all that pork crud stuck in with Sandy relief was abysmal, disgusting, and a few other euphemisms…Christie is governor of a hard-hit state, so what should he have done when we find out that Boehner back-burnered the relief bill? Break into a rousing version of Que sera sera?

3. The whole bullying Jersey thing.. You catch more flies with honey. Both Christie and Rubio had mini controversies as of late. Mr Sunshine’s handling of water gate has been pretty genius. Christie’s handling of the weight issue was thin skinned.

Illinidiva on February 19, 2013 at 8:12 PM

I honestly have no idea what you’re saying with that. What’s a “bullying Jersey thing”? How has Christie and his weight and his calling bs on those who say his fatness is a detriment to any future POTUS run?

Come on.

JetBoy on February 19, 2013 at 8:29 PM

I honestly have no idea what you’re saying with that. What’s a “bullying Jersey thing”? How has Christie and his weight and his calling bs on those who say his fatness is a detriment to any future POTUS run?

Come on.

JetBoy on February 19, 2013 at 8:29 PM

A “thin skin” did in Palin, Jet.

/PDSer

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 8:30 PM

1. His adoration of Barack Obama just prior to the election
2. He attacks anyone who opposes sharia
3. He is anti-second amendment
4. He is pro illegal alien
5. He is a proponent of global warming

You asked for 2-3. I gave you 5 and I am just warming up.

About the only positive I can think of about the Fatman is that he is pro-life (and obviously pro-Burger King)

bw222 on February 19, 2013 at 7:32 PM

JetBoy:

Got an example of each?

Here’s one on sharia:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/chris-christie-slams-fearmongering-over-sharia-law-210648303.html

All of them are well know stands by Christie, but I am not going to take the time to document them all just because you insist on being a jackass.

bw222 on February 19, 2013 at 8:34 PM

Chris Christie: I agree with Andrew Cuomo on probably 98% of the issues

…than the fat boy has a 2% chance of ever getting my vote!

KOOLAID2 on February 19, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Here’s one on sharia:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/chris-christie-slams-fearmongering-over-sharia-law-210648303.html

All of them are well know stands by Christie, but I am not going to take the time to document them all just because you insist on being a jackass.

bw222 on February 19, 2013 at 8:34 PM

Whenever I see or hear someone say they won’t “take the time” to actually source the points they just made, it always means the same thing: You won’t because you can’t.

Really? That nominated judge would rule by Sharia? Give me a friggin’ break. You ever meet many Jersey chicks? Apparently not. Weak.

If asking for you to provide backup for your accusations makes me a “j*ck*ss”, so be it.

JetBoy on February 19, 2013 at 8:42 PM

Final. The two of them really are quite cute together. Lol!

Bmore on February 19, 2013 at 8:46 PM

Switched to Republican in 1962. More than a decade before he ran for president and four years before he ran for governor.

sharrukin on February 19, 2013 at 8:17 PM

And when did Romney say that we was a “progressive”? A decade before he ran for president.

Look at Reagan’s political career. Just 2 examples: He signed the “Therapeutic Abortion Act” and chose Richard Schweiker as his running mate in 1976.

He would be unelectable for today’s conservative base.

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 9:05 PM

And when did Romney say that we was a “progressive”? A decade before he ran for president.

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 9:05 PM

2006 when he passed Romneycare and again in 2012 when he said “I am very proud of what we did”.

And again in 2012 when he agreed with Obama about just about everything at the debates.

sharrukin on February 19, 2013 at 9:10 PM

JetBoy on February 19, 2013 at 8:42 PM

Get real. Next you will be asking me to document that Barack Obama is a Democrat.

Christie’s positions on issues like immigration and gun control are well-known, apparently by everyone like you.

bw222 on February 19, 2013 at 9:11 PM

And when did Romney say that we was a “progressive”?

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 9:05 PM

2004 gun ban.

I also support an assault weapon ban,” he [Romney] said in 2007

sharrukin on February 19, 2013 at 9:15 PM

But to make a long story short, you’d have to believe that in just three-and-a-half short years Christie would have an a-ha moment and decide that he was wrong all this time in the 98% of things he agrees with Andrew Cuomo about. Doesn’t that beg credulity? Or are you really that stupid hungry to get a Republican in office that you don’t care who it is?

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 8:21 PM

I despise Chris Christie. I wouldn’t trust him as far as I can sh*t, if you’ll pardon my French.

It’s just that your link tells us nothing about how Romney would have governed.

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 9:18 PM

2004 gun ban.

I also support an assault weapon ban,” he [Romney] said in 2007

sharrukin on February 19, 2013 at 9:15 PM

He lost. Why do you still fight him? It seems so personal. Can’t you let it go?

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 9:20 PM

It’s just that your link tells us nothing about how Romney would have governed.

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Perhaps Massachusetts where Romney governed would be the place to look to see how Romney would govern?

sharrukin on February 19, 2013 at 9:21 PM

He lost. Why do you still fight him? It seems so personal. Can’t you let it go?

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Ask yourself that question since you brought him up. I was talking about Reagan.

And when did Romney say that we was a “progressive”?

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 9:05 PM

sharrukin on February 19, 2013 at 9:24 PM

He lost. Why do you still fight him? It seems so personal. Can’t you let it go?

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 9:20 PM

First, you asked. Second, the same crap is being replayed all over again. Third, we’ll stop harping on Romney’s loss as soon as the losses of Angle and O’Donnell are forgotten. Romney’s was far more spectacular, anyway.

ddrintn on February 19, 2013 at 9:26 PM

The reason some of us won’t let the whole “Romney losing” go, is because we were assured he was the ‘only one who was electable enough to beat Obama’. This was beaten into us and anyone who disagreed was shamed for disagreeing.

He and those who claimed this are not done living this down. In fact looking at things, it seems we’re about to do it all over again.

No thanks. I played that game too many times.

Sharr on February 19, 2013 at 9:28 PM

This problem would be solved if the “TrueCons” could come up with a candidate that people want to vote for. That would help enormously.

All you’ve been doing for the last year was to blame the RINOs for the fact that there wasn’t an electable “TrueCon” candidate.

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 7:36 PM

Really? Yeah, let’s have about 3 years’ worth of “only THESE are electable — don’t even THINK about anyone else” and then let those “TrueCons” propose someone else.

ddrintn on February 19, 2013 at 9:29 PM

The reason some of us won’t let the whole “Romney losing” go, is because we were assured he was the ‘only one who was electable enough to beat Obama’. This was beaten into us and anyone who disagreed was shamed for disagreeing.

He and those who claimed this are not done living this down. In fact looking at things, it seems we’re about to do it all over again.

No thanks. I played that game too many times.

Sharr on February 19, 2013 at 9:28 PM

Absolutely.

ddrintn on February 19, 2013 at 9:30 PM

KingGold on February 19, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Son, you are one of the last people on earth to give an opinion on who is electable.

katy the mean old lady on February 19, 2013 at 7:38 PM

LOL. Preach it.

ddrintn on February 19, 2013 at 9:31 PM

I’ll go one further. The pain of the next four years is on them.

Sharr on February 19, 2013 at 9:32 PM

3. The whole bullying Jersey thing.. You catch more flies with honey. Both Christie and Rubio had mini controversies as of late. Mr Sunshine’s handling of water gate has been pretty genius. Christie’s handling of the weight issue was thin skinned.

Illinidiva on February 19, 2013 at 8:12 PM

OK, we have the advance Marcobot scout. Prepare for others when there’s an open registration.

ddrintn on February 19, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Nominate another candidate for president who would not even carry his “home” state?

Now that’s a plan …

/of course, if you think CC/KK would carry New Jersey in a presidential race, please tell us all why.

RedPepper on February 19, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Perhaps Massachusetts where Romney governed would be the place to look to see how Romney would govern?

sharrukin on February 19, 2013 at 9:21 PM

… how Romney would HAVE governed. It is obvious that you are still fighting the primaries. But you aren’t the only one here who thinks that he must defeat Romney.

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 9:44 PM

And here’s a thought. Why not pick a nominee who you think will govern and institute, or cut government in a manner you’d want them to, rather then by how ‘electable’ they are?

Its a much more prosperous formulation. Or you’re just repeating a dying pattern of the status quo even if they do get elected…

Sharr on February 19, 2013 at 9:44 PM

And when did Romney say that we was a “progressive”?

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 9:05 PM

I gave you the link, dude! Didn’t you follow it? “I feel my views are progressive.” That’s a direct Romney quote, and I even had the video to back it up!

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 9:45 PM

It’s just that your link tells us nothing about how Romney would have governed.

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Nothing about Romney’s past would have told us about how he would have governed, simp. But I think it’s entirely fair to say that his entire political career in Mass-uh-chew-sits was spent distancing himself from conservatism. And then he’s “severely conservative” when he needs conservative votes. And this doesn’t bother you at all, huh? Holy Moses, Obama must really have you shitting your drawers.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 9:47 PM

… how Romney would HAVE governed.

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Well if what Romney did in the past is no indication of what he might do, then why are you so upset with Obama…after all what he has done couldn’t possibly be any indication of what he might do in the future…right?

sharrukin on February 19, 2013 at 9:51 PM

Ladies and gentlmen, conservatism is what you do and what you believe. NOT what you say you are.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 9:53 PM

Well if what Romney did in the past is no indication of what he might do, then why are you so upset with Obama…after all what he has done couldn’t possibly be any indication of what he might do in the future…right?

sharrukin on February 19, 2013 at 9:51 PM

Past is prologue…

Sharr on February 19, 2013 at 9:58 PM

Really? Yeah, let’s have about 3 years’ worth of “only THESE are electable — don’t even THINK about anyone else” and then let those “TrueCons” propose someone else.

ddrintn on February 19, 2013 at 9:29 PM

No, let’s have 3 years of good conservative spokesmen (and women), like Ted Cruz. Or Rand Paul. I don’t mention Palin because I think she won’t run for office again.

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 10:00 PM

OK, we have the advance Marcobot scout. Prepare for others when there’s an open registration.

ddrintn on February 19, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Wow… is Rubio going to give me money and stuff?? I want some pocket change. :)

Jeez. I think I’ve made my preferences clear as Team Ryan, but a. I don’t think Ryan will run and B. Marco Rubio is much, much better than all the other people running.

Illinidiva on February 19, 2013 at 10:03 PM

Ann Coulter hardest hit.

Conservative Street cred of the Coulter shattered.

PappyD61 on February 19, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Ok. Coulter made a mistake. We all make mistakes. I’m sure she’d admit it was a mistake now.

thuja on February 19, 2013 at 10:03 PM

Past is prologue…

Sharr on February 19, 2013 at 9:58 PM

Unless you are a liberal Republican and then it mysteriously vanishes.

sharrukin on February 19, 2013 at 10:04 PM

Ok. Coulter made a mistake. We all make mistakes. I’m sure she’d admit it was a mistake now.

thuja on February 19, 2013 at 10:03 PM

I’ve been waiting over a year. Don’t hold your breath.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Jeez. I think I’ve made my preferences clear as Team Ryan, but a. I don’t think Ryan will run and B. Marco Rubio is much, much better than all the other people running.

Illinidiva on February 19, 2013 at 10:03 PM

What “other people”? No one’s announced yet.

ddrintn on February 19, 2013 at 10:09 PM

No, let’s have 3 years of good conservative spokesmen (and women), like Ted Cruz. Or Rand Paul. I don’t mention Palin because I think she won’t run for office again.

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 10:00 PM

I don’t know if she will or not. As for Cruz, we’ll see. Paul is just too much into obvious grandstanding for my tastes.

ddrintn on February 19, 2013 at 10:11 PM

The reason some of us won’t let the whole “Romney losing” go, is because we were assured he was the ‘only one who was electable enough to beat Obama’. This was beaten into us and anyone who disagreed was shamed for disagreeing.

He and those who claimed this are not done living this down. In fact looking at things, it seems we’re about to do it all over again.

No thanks. I played that game too many times.

Sharr on February 19, 2013 at 9:28 PM

You know who really assured the voters that Romney was the only one who was electable enough? The other Republican candidates.

Romney had the same problem as Christine O’Donnell. I never understood why she had to be attacked by other Republicans AFTER she was elected.

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 10:13 PM

I gave you the link, dude! Didn’t you follow it? “I feel my views are progressive.” That’s a direct Romney quote, and I even had the video to back it up!

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 9:45 PM

That’s what I wrote:

And when did Romney say that we was a “progressive”? A decade before he ran for president.

I replied to sharrukin who thinks that it matters when Reagan left the Democrats (a decade before he ran for president).

Why don’t you read my entire comment, instead of sharrukin’s spin?

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 10:21 PM

You know who really assured the voters that Romney was the only one who was electable enough? The other Republican candidates.

Romney had the same problem as Christine O’Donnell. I never understood why she had to be attacked by other Republicans AFTER she was elected.

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 10:13 PM

Nope. Not playing that. Romney destroyed anyone who stood in his way to the nomination without regret. A pity he didn’t treat Obama the same way he treated Newt.

Not playing the pity party here. Christine O’Donnell had establishment types in her own party ripping her down. Romney on the other hand had these same establisment types backing him and making sure to take out anyone who got in his way.

Sharr on February 19, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Tell me how, exactly, did the keynote speech benefit Christie? He was invited…he didn’t beg to do it. And it’s a huge stretch to say Christie made Obama win. Again…the Jersey shore was…say it with me…DEVASTATED. A lot of it still is. Just because Christie didn’t kick Obama in the nuts the minute he got off the plane doesn’t make him and The One best buds.

No, the keynote didn’t help Christie because it was all about Christie. This is what Christie cares about.

As for the Sandy visit, I’d like you to assume a few things.. 1. Presidential visits are just photo ops. Obama’s photo didn’t help anyone in Jersey rebuild their homes. 2. Obama was losing. The Sandy photo op turned that around. Sans the Sandy photo op, we’d be talking about President Romney. 3. Christie knew that this would A. have no effect on the money he got. B. It would screw over Romney and make sure Cory Booker didn’t run.

I agree that all that pork crud stuck in with Sandy relief was abysmal, disgusting, and a few other euphemisms…Christie is governor of a hard-hit state, so what should he have done when we find out that Boehner back-burnered the relief bill? Break into a rousing version of Que sera sera?

Umm.. That totally was Christie kicking Boehner when he was down to win reelection.

I honestly have no idea what you’re saying with that. What’s a “bullying Jersey thing”? How has Christie and his weight and his calling bs on those who say his fatness is a detriment to any future POTUS run?

A few weeks ago, a Clinton doctor mentioned that she had “concerns” about Christie’s weight and him dying in office. This led to a full on Christie tantrum which mentioned how his son thought that he was going to die because of it. While I’m sorry about his son being upset (if that was true), it seems to me that families of public figures have to deal with lots of nasty stuff and Christie should have been well prepared for it. Lots of the MSM are going to have “concerns” about Christie’s weight in 2016. Christie should have laughed it off rather than being upset about it.

In contrast, I think that everyone thinks that Rubio was able to turn the Watergate thing into a real opportunity. Very few people remember SOTU addresses, but the water was memorable and Rubio managed to turn what could have been a serious gaffe into a career winner. It is all about being self-effacing and good natured.

Illinidiva on February 19, 2013 at 10:27 PM

You know who really assured the voters that Romney was the only one who was electable enough? The other Republican candidates.

No, they didn’t. Romney was the only one who had zero — ZERO — chance of beating Obama. The others didn’t have 3 years’ worth of propaganda working for them, though. Perry stumbles and it was magnified. Raise that bar. Romney goes on about global warming at the outset and it’s swept under the rug.

Romney had the same problem as Christine O’Donnell. I never understood why she had to be attacked by other Republicans AFTER she was elected.

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 10:13 PM

We didn’t make the rules.

ddrintn on February 19, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Why don’t you read my entire comment, instead of sharrukin’s spin?

Gelsomina on February 19, 2013 at 10:21 PM

What spin would that be?

You want to ignore Romney’s record in Massachusetts, ignore his statements regarding his political views, ignore his cash contributions to Democrats, ignore his votes for Democrats, and ignore his own recent statements about what he believes and what he is proud of.

You want to completely ignore who Romney is, what he said, what he did, and you accuse me of ‘spin’?

sharrukin on February 19, 2013 at 10:28 PM

In contrast, I think that everyone thinks that Rubio was able to turn the Watergate thing into a real opportunity. Very few people remember SOTU addresses, but the water was memorable and Rubio managed to turn what could have been a serious gaffe into a career winner. It is all about being self-effacing and good natured.

Illinidiva on February 19, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Oh, come off it. Nobody remembers anything Rubio actually SAID, either. The guy;s already lost the base. He’s a non-starter except among GOPe wonks and libs wanting to find an easy mark.

ddrintn on February 19, 2013 at 10:29 PM

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