Why is Obama threatening to release his own immigration plan?
posted at 4:31 pm on February 18, 2013 by Allahpundit
Kabuki? Or double kabuki? Mickey Kaus says we’re being played by both sides here:
Ah, but Obama has his own bill, waiting in the wings! As a “backup.” If negotiations fail, he just might introduce it! How does that work again? The already pro-amnesty Gang of 8 is unable to reach a deal–but then the President introduces his even more pro-amnesty plan, and the Senate is going to go, “Well, now that the President has introduced a plan it looks like we just have to forget our disagreements and back it.” Is that how the Senate works? I don’t think so. If the President introduces a plan the Senate will say “thank you” and be right back where it was before. The President doesn’t have the power to force the Senate to pass his plan, or even vote for it.
So what’s the purpose of this hollow threat? The only explanation I come up with is that it’s a Double Kabuki play: 1) The President gets to posture as the tough guy demanding a deal (or else he’ll unleash his draft!). Meanwhile the Hispanic caucus and the amnesty lobby can gnaw on all the pro-illegal statutory tweaks they would like to see in the “path to citizenship,” etc. But more important 2) Republicans like Rubio and Paul Ryan get to posture by denouncing the President’s draft (Rubio: “Dead on Arrival” Ryan: “the wrong direction”) thereby earning themselves seeming-tough-on-illegals street cred that might serve them well when they sell out by endorsing an instant-legalization compromise (as, in fact, Rubio has already done).
I’ve wondered about double kabuki myself. The key to an immigration deal is making it safe, or safe-ish, for Republicans to support it, especially in the House where deep-red-district primary challenges are a real threat. The most effective way to do that is for Obama to end up opposing the Rubio/Schumer bill on grounds that it’s simply too darned draconian, either because it demands too much from border enforcement or because it’s too slow about putting illegals on the path to citizenship (or both). The more vocal O is about that, the more amnesty-inclined Republicans get to frame their support for Rubio’s bill as some sort of vote against Obama and for tougher borders, blah blah blah. The trick for O is not to be too harsh in criticizing the Senate, though; if he slams Rubio’s bill as some sort of crazed immigration hawk’s fantasy legislation, as ridiculous as that might be, it could make some liberals in Congress nervous and suddenly he has a problem passing this thing on the other side of the spectrum. The correct way to get this done is to do what he’s doing now, faintly praising the Senate’s work on forging a compromise to reassure liberals while floating his own bill to make sure Republicans know that Rubio’s bill is stricter than the White House prefers.
But wait. What if, by sticking his nose into Congress’s immigration negotiations, O ends up polarizing it to the point where the whole thing falls apart? Wouldn’t that be a disaster for Democrats now that they’re on the brink of legalizing millions of illegals with support from the GOP’s young tea-party rock star from Florida? More to the point, does Obama want to blow up the negotiations so that he can keep demagoging the GOP as the anti-Latino party ahead of the midterms? The answer, I think, is that he sees floating his own bill as a no-lose situation. If he talks it up and Republicans rally behind Rubio to pass his bill instead, great! O gets a path to citizenship for illegals and most, if not quite all, of the credit for passing the bill since he and his party control most of the government right now. The brutal truth, as some Republicans aren’t shy about noting, is that Obama’s bill isn’t all that different from Rubio’s. And to the extent that it is different, Democrats and their immigration-lobby allies will go on agitating to make the final product more like O’s bill if/when it passes. He can live, happily, with Rubio’s bill as law. On the other hand, If Obama talks up his own bill and ends up polarizing the issue until the compromise falls apart, great! He’ll happily use that as leverage for the “GOP hates Latinos” talking point in 2014. Realistically, the only way he’ll have a truly consequential second term is if Democrats can take back the House; that’s what his gun-control campaign right now is all about, and that’s what the fate of things like cap-and-trade rests on. If Republicans hang onto the House next year, O’s last two years will be spent mired in lame-duck misery. If they don’t, he’ll be the rare president who ends eight years in office with a flurry of significant “achievements.” I think Obama would be willing to trade that legacy for the legacy of having passed comprehensive immigration reform with GOP help, especially given what it means for Democratic electoral gains long-term, but if he does get the House back in 2014 then he can pass immigration reform — and an assault-weapons ban, and cap-and-trade — later. The only true disaster scenario for him is if immigration talks collapse now and the GOP holds the House in 2014 anyway. That’s quite possible, and maybe even probable, and that’s why he’s not being more aggressive right now in trying to sabotage the negotiations.
The key to this strategy, though, is for Obama to push his own bill before negotiations over the Rubio/Schumer bill fall apart. If those negotiations blow up on their own and then O swoops in with his bill, it’ll look just as ridiculous as Kaus suggests in the first paragraph above. To really maximize the political benefits, the White House has to be able to credibly argue that negotiations fell apart due to GOP spitefulness towards Obama and his more “undocumented”-friendly immigration proposal. That’s why I think they’re leaking details of his plan now. They want this out there ASAP so that they can point back it to later as the source of GOP upset over immigration, even if it really isn’t. Exit question via Conn Carroll: What exactly is the difference between Obama’s and Rubio’s plans?
Update: On second thought, is it really a disaster for O if immigration talks collapse and the GOP holds the House anyway next year? It’s a disaster insofar as it means no new assault-weapons ban in 2015, but I think he’ll pass immigration reform in his final two years even if he’s stuck with a Republican House. The GOP’s simply not going to risk another “anti-Latino” messaging barrage from Dems before a new presidential election. Obama might not get this done now but he will get this done, no matter what happens in 2014.
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lolz..Good deal!..Let’s pass it on to our children and we will have completed the circle..:)
Dire Straits on May 24, 2013 at 2:45 AM
Thanks for the link friend..:)
Dire Straits on May 24, 2013 at 2:47 AM
Goodnight, Dire!
John the Libertarian on May 24, 2013 at 2:49 AM
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Moscow Shaker:
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canopfor on May 24, 2013 at 2:50 AM
It has been my honor..Good night..:)
Dire Straits on May 24, 2013 at 3:06 AM
Bureaucrats NEVER unilaterally undertake illegal, politically explosive operations.
The day before the IRS started attacking Americans in a bid to deny them their 1st amendment rights, Obama met at the WH with the rabidly anti-Tea Party president of the National Treasury Employees Union, Colleen Kelley. Kelley’s Union has inordinate influence within the IRS. Their meeting was not coincidental. They did not meet to exchange recipes…
The organization True the Vote was attacked by the IRS, FBI, ATF and OSHA. That degree of coordination comes from the WH. True the Vote is a Texas based organization seeking non-profit status. It’s focus is voter verification. It’s founder worked at voting stations and was appalled at the amount of voter fraud she witnessed in 2009.
True the Vote was targeted because it threatened to derail attainment of the left’s goal; Texas’ electoral college votes moving into the democrat column would guarantee effective one-party rule in America. This bid to deny American’s their 1st amendment rights came straight from Obama. Only ideological apologists and the willfully obtuse can deny it. Obama’s handprints are all over the greatest political scandal in American history.
InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on May 24, 2013 at 4:27 AM
MUST-SEE VIDEO AT BREITBART:
Wow… Just. Effin’. Wow.
<a href="http://“>Senator Obama calls for the Attorney General to step down
PointnClick on May 24, 2013 at 5:28 AM
Crap… Messed up the link on my Pad…
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/05/23/Obama-07-An-Attorney-General-Should-Not-Be-Carrying-Out-Political-Vendettas-Of-the-President#
PointnClick on May 24, 2013 at 5:33 AM
good morning HA crew!
hope all is well for our HA family in seattle, wow just heard about the bridge collapse on I5….
cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:34 AM
Happy Friday, fave morning person!
Liam on May 24, 2013 at 6:36 AM
Obama’s previously unreported speech:
Good evening fellow travelers. Allah be with you all. Jihad is working, my Muslim brothers and sisters. We need a little more time. We have three and a half years. The national debt of the Great Satan is growing. By the end of my term America will be on her knees. We are counterfeiting American currency as fast as we can. Future generations of the Infidel will be weak and broken. Allah Akbar. Death to America. I am doing my best with Marxism. There is resistance. Well, there is no resistance from the Democrats–not surprising. We are dumbing down the children of the Infidel as fast as we can. We have full control of the public schools. We have the media. We have Hollywood. We have the unions. We are in control. America will be dead in ten years. Allah is smiling on us.
InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on May 24, 2013 at 6:38 AM
aw shucks
morning Liam :)
so do we have a pool going for what the 5pm friday afternon news dump is going to be? its a holiday weekend so who knows what they’ll drop
cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:38 AM
+1
cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:40 AM
Whatever it is, it’s going to suck. Liberals can’t be any other way.
Hey — Did you see the Weiner thread? If you want a long laugh, the puns were flying! I bookmarked it.
Liam on May 24, 2013 at 6:42 AM
when dear leader makes eric holder investigate eric holder something is seriously wrong….will the lsm actually question this or just let it go with dear leader is showing leadership, he’s awesome!
cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:43 AM
i did….as Ed said Drudge won the day for internet headlines…
cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:45 AM
Much the same way as a pothead saying, “I took an awesome sh*t this morning!”
Sorry that I’m not impressed.
Liam on May 24, 2013 at 6:47 AM
nyt praising dear leader’s terrorism speech…it was awesome, one of his best and the mj crew agrees natch
cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:47 AM
yup
cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:49 AM
Our fellows, with all their puns, had me in stitches for more than an hour. I’m a fiend for puns, and they had me laughing so hard I could barely type.
Liam on May 24, 2013 at 6:49 AM
:) HA rocks!!
cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:53 AM
To be sure!
Except for the trolls.
Liam on May 24, 2013 at 6:57 AM
Happy Friday, y’all!
Lt. Col. Allen West
Obama Runs the Ol’ Bait ‘n Switch “Oh, Look…Squirrel!” My take.
kingsjester on May 24, 2013 at 6:58 AM
great take KJ :)
cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 7:01 AM
Now that it’s Friday, how about you kidnap hubby again? He’ll never expect it!
Liam on May 24, 2013 at 7:02 AM
mj crew following the squirrel this am KJ..only wants to talk about his speech…most important speech evah!!
cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 7:02 AM
Now that it’s Friday, how about you kidnap hubby again. He’ll never expect it!
Liam on May 24, 2013 at 7:03 AM
can’t this weekend…family stuff going on
cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 7:04 AM
Too bad Caesar’s Resorts no longer exist.
Liam on May 24, 2013 at 7:07 AM
Lois Lerner, the lying Christian-hating whore, got put on paid administrative leave yesterday so it isn’t that. Nevertheless, my money is on some nagging little detail about the IRS using their authority to smite the enemies of the rat-eared coward.
Happy Nomad on May 24, 2013 at 7:08 AM
joe is giddy, ‘this president has changed the structure on the war on terror’
oh yeah kj, they definitely have their squirrel…
Allah, it was a distraction that lasted more than 7 hours my friend….
cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 7:08 AM
:)
good one…
cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 7:10 AM
cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 7:01 AM
Thank you, ma’am!
kingsjester on May 24, 2013 at 7:10 AM
well that was quick…all the hemming and hawing over dear leader’s actions has turned back to a lovefest for him by the lsm…
cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 7:28 AM
This is garbage. The Journolisters are defending The Magnificent One. Of Course the Chief Executive is responsible. Suddenly IRS, Justice and WH are losing memory.
Is someone telling me that when Bengazhi was happening, Presedent wasn’t aware. Heck… State was watching it Live.
Keep drilling.
Bengazhi is the biggest Scandal.
antisocial on May 24, 2013 at 7:30 AM
i guess that little meeting at the wh with the lib press worked…
cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 7:41 AM
You know its really bad news when the Friday News Dump starts on a Thursday or Wednesday… it’s been doing that for three weeks now.
And for the Special Prosecutor deal… well there is a true oversight function by Congress and it is a two-part affair. First is to find out what is going on in agencies and departments. You have to get to the bottom of things and find out what the problem is.
Part two is changing laws and budgets, with the former being the fastest and most effective as you can start axing entire sections of agencies and departments by not funding them and cutting personnel right out of the budget. If the R’s were smart and went back to the right way to budget, that is by agency or department, then this would be a precise tool to cut out rot and cancer in the government. Instead the multi-agency slush fund approach means that agencies can shift resources between themselves in the slush fund to make up for mandated losses in cash. The personnel part, however, hits no matter what. Congress can start out by saying that for every ‘I don’t know’ or ‘I can’t recall’ or ‘I only became aware of it last week’ they can cut 1% of the budget and personnel from an agency and for every 5th taken that is a 5% reduction: these people are supposed to answer questions to Congress about how they are carrying out the laws MADE by Congress. If the culture is one of deception, then the funding should start to dry up and hard.
Since the House starts the budget and has the purse strings, then that is where it must start and even with the Reidless non-budget agencies and departments look to the House for how they are to use funds. The problem now is Boehner and the House leadership being unwilling to do the hard work of by agency and department funding… which he promised to do leading into 2010 and then dropped the ball on the moment there was a Republican majority. If you want specific powers and functions cut off the place to start is the House and there the Democratic and Republican leadership are unwilling to do that. Once Upon A Time the US Congress used to be jealous of the power it held and keep everyone on a tight leash in the government. This is what happens when they get lazy and try to get the Executive to do their jobs for them.
These Congresscritters VOLUNTEER for their jobs and now seek to excuse not doing it via the abuse of power they have delegated improperly. Even to the dim bulbs lacking enough wattage to even get a glow in their heads, this needs to be stated directly to them: you wanted this job now DO IT AS YOU SAID YOU WOULD DO or QUIT and let the people find someone who is CAPABLE OF DOING IT.
ajacksonian on May 24, 2013 at 7:41 AM
well said aj
cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 7:47 AM
The dumbest coming out of our journalism schools do like to project, don’t they?
MNHawk on May 24, 2013 at 8:21 AM
Interesting post. I found it through a link at Physics Geek’s website:
http://www.bookwormroom.com/2013/05/18/is-the-irs-scandal-the-worst-political-scandal-in-american-history-i-say-yes/
Fallon on May 24, 2013 at 9:32 AM
Whenever you change the founding principles of an organization you announce it’s doom!
RedLizard64 on May 24, 2013 at 10:44 AM
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