McCain on gun control: Most of the Senate will support universal background checks

posted at 5:31 pm on February 18, 2013 by Allahpundit

No surprise but newsworthy insofar as I think this is the first time a Republican as prominent as McCain has talked openly about some new form of gun control passing Congress. If you’re not sure what he means when he refers to the plan Coburn and Schumer are working on, read this. They’re going to close the “gun-show loophole” but carve out exceptions for family transfers and maybe for people who’ve already been vetted for concealed carry. How many votes will there be for that? Well, they’ll start at 58: Coburn and Mark Kirk are part of the group that’s working on a compromise bill and McCain’s already hinting that he’s a yes, so add those three to the Democrats’ 55 (no Dem would dare oppose a measure that might complicate Obama’s “Republican obstructionism” message on gun control). Collins and Murkowski are always gimmes on big bipartisan initiatives too, so there you go — 60 votes for cloture, although there’s bound to be many, many more than that. Follow the last link for your reminder that expanded background checks is the one gun-control measure that polls fantastically well across party lines. Even Lindsey Graham, who needs to protect his right flank in case of a primary challenge in South Carolina next year, is open to some form of new background checks albeit not the Democratic plan. You might see a majority of House Republicans vote no, partly as a symbolic rejection of further gun-control regulations and partly to distinguish themselves from the squishy RINOs in the Senate for the benefit of red-district voters, but it’s going to pass that chamber too with bipartisan support. When push comes to shove, I think Boehner would rather violate the “Hastert Rule” and push this thing through with mostly Democratic votes than risk handing Obama a potential weapon for 2014 by rejecting something that even many Senate Republicans support.

Exit question: What’s the over/under on Senate votes? 85?

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There was no “gun show loophole”. Transfer laws at gun shows were exactly the same as everywhere else.

But now there will be a “family transfer loophole”. How long before gun-grabbers campaign to close this?

Socratease on February 18, 2013 at 5:33 PM

TRAITOR!

annoyinglittletwerp on February 18, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Is everybody finally sick and tired of RINO’s stabbing us in the Back?

Where does he think the Feral Government has the Authority to control private property like this?

Where would this fall under the enumerated powers?

Galt2009 on February 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Let’s start with all politicians and their body guards—full background check. What’s good for the goose………

Rovin on February 18, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Fine, but remember the words “poll tax” — such checks should come at no cost to the person asserting his/her 2nd Amendment right….

unclesmrgol on February 18, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Does anyone think that once the government has this level of control over our property that they won’t abuse it?

Abuse such as in the following in the UK:

Now they want to tax jewellery: New Lib Dem wealth plan to target ALL assets – including buy-to-let homes
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2279810/Now-want-tax-jewellery-New-wealth-tax-plan-target-ALL-assets–including-buy-let-homes.html

Families will be forced to pay tax on jewellery and other heirlooms under controversial new plans drawn up by the Liberal Democrats.

Under the scheme, tax inspectors would get unprecedented new powers to go into homes and value rings, necklaces, paintings, furniture and other family treasures.

Householders would be forced to pay a new ‘wealth’ levy on the assets – with the threat of fines for those who refused to let snoops value their possessions.

Galt2009 on February 18, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Probable 75 votes in the Senate, many of the GOP opposing it simple because their votes aren’t needed.
HOWEVER< the odds of the Dems deliberately throwing a monkey wrench in is high. Probably in a conference committee , getting both yes and no for some GOP members.

michaelo on February 18, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Results for #guncontrol

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23guncontrol

canopfor on February 18, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Coburn and Mark Kirk are part of the group that’s working on a compromise bill and McCain’s already hinting that he’s a yes, so add those three to the Democrats’ 55 (no Dem would dare oppose a measure that might complicate Obama’s “Republican obstructionism” message on gun control).

Not even a Dem who wants to get reelected next year?

The fact that background checks poll well is meaningless. What matters is how many votes it flips.

There are a lot of Dems who carefully cultivate their NRA “A” ratings. How many election-year Dems will sacrifice that?

HitNRun on February 18, 2013 at 5:41 PM

background checks is the one gun-control measure that polls fantastically well across party lines

will it catch the psycho 19 yr old who takes his mom’s weapons and murders 2 dozen people at an elementary school? If no, then move toward another plan, fellers.

ted c on February 18, 2013 at 5:42 PM

DISENFRANCHISED!!!

ted c on February 18, 2013 at 5:42 PM

infringed…

equanimous on February 18, 2013 at 5:48 PM

One of the major gun-control efforts in Olympia this session calls for the sheriff to inspect the homes of assault-weapon owners. The bill’s backers say that was a mistake.

Forget police drones flying over your house. How about police coming inside, once a year, to have a look around?

As Orwellian as that sounds, it isn’t hypothetical. The notion of police home inspections was introduced in a bill last week in Olympia.

That it’s part of one of the major gun-control efforts pains me. It seemed in recent weeks lawmakers might be headed toward some common-sense regulation of gun sales. But then last week they went too far. By mistake, they claim. But still too far.

The Seattle Times

Rovin on February 18, 2013 at 5:48 PM

As long as these checks are instant, the database is easily accessible to everyone, and they don’t cost anything, then okay. Otherwise, not good. Everything necessary should be over the internet so that private party transactions are not impeded. Also, the family loophole sounds stupid.

andy85719 on February 18, 2013 at 5:49 PM

If MCcAIN votes for this, it’s time to un-elect McCain and put someone in his place that is pro-gun. And being pro-gun does not mean you compromise. Theres no compromise. Period. Done.

SHALL

NOT

BE

INFRINGED

( DAMNIT ! )

McCain has talked openly about some new form of gun control passing Congress

TX-96 on February 18, 2013 at 5:49 PM

You can bet your azz the Dems will add some provision for registering the serial numbers on any guns being ‘checked’. Then – bingo – after the next crazed killer uses firearms, they’ll have to “do something” and the first place they’ll go is…?

If so, then it’s simply a Trojan Horse.

catmman on February 18, 2013 at 5:53 PM

OT but hey, he did say you don’t need 100 bullets to kill a deer!

http://twitchy.com/2013/02/18/ny-gov-andrew-cuomo-pushing-to-ease-restrictions-on-late-term-abortions/

Slime.

can_con on February 18, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Galt2009 on February 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM

I am so sick of this person being the face of the Republican
Party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course, the MSM loves him.

Wish the people of AZ could do someting to get rid of him.

Barred on February 18, 2013 at 5:55 PM

John McCain is just an ATTENTION WHORE.

Sorry, it’s true. He’s made himself the go-to goper in the Senate and for what?

He’s not a limited government Conservative. He has stated many many times he’s a fan of Teddy Roosevelt and his Progressive policies. And he’s a big fan of globalism (his support of the so called “League of Democracies” being a prime example).

When we have Big loving Progressives/faux “conservatives” leading the gop this is what we get……….BIGGER, and more tyrannical Federal government and a bolder and more arrogant Ruling class like Bloomberg and the other “Mommy knows best” politicians.

and yet, we must like it because…….WE VOTE FOR IT.

PappyD61 on February 18, 2013 at 5:55 PM

cripe..yes he is my senator
*head hanging in shame*

cmsinaz on February 18, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Mexico is asking for for a US gun registry in states along their border.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/18/why-is-mexico-asking-the-u-s-senate-for-a-registry-of-u-s-gun-owners/

Mexican lawmakers will ask the U.S. Senate to create a registry of all commercialized firearms in border states, which includes California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas.

sharrukin on February 18, 2013 at 5:57 PM

This is currently the Republican Party. Moving towards becoming Whigs, one vote at a time.

Bmore on February 18, 2013 at 5:57 PM

If MCcAIN votes for this, it’s time to un-elect McCain and put someone in his place that is pro-gun. And being pro-gun does not mean you compromise. Theres no compromise. Period. Done.

SHALL

NOT

BE

INFRINGED

( DAMNIT ! )

McCain has talked openly about some new form of gun control passing Congress

TX-96 on February 18, 2013 at 5:49 PM

McCain needs to be introduced to a nice 25 foot long 1 inch in diameter length of Stout Hemp Rope and then taken on a field trip to examine Streetlamps.

SWalker on February 18, 2013 at 5:57 PM

McCain is really the John Kerry of the Senate…….he served in Vietnam.

After that, it’s all been downhill.

McCain has one…..and only one…..right decision and that was the Alaskan that shall not be named. Everything else he’s done (even on Benghazi just gets him attention and a little media).

EXPEL THE RULING CLASS.

PappyD61 on February 18, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Camel. Nose. Tent.

The camel’s nose is a metaphor for a situation where permitting some small, seemingly innocuous act will open the door for larger, clearly undesirable actions. A typical usage is this, from U.S. Senator Barry Goldwater in 1958:

This bill and the foregoing remarks of the majority remind me of an old Arabian proverb: “If the camel once gets his nose in the tent, his body will soon follow.” If adopted, the legislation will mark the inception of aid, supervision, and ultimately control of education in this country by the federal authorities.[1]

tru2tx on February 18, 2013 at 5:58 PM

first time a Republican as prominent as McCain

doof!

DanMan on February 18, 2013 at 5:58 PM

HitNRun on February 18, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Not sure about Dems, but I wouldn’t write off Murcokesky and Collins too quickly. Collins has a B+ and Murcokesky an A from NRA. This is Maine and Alaska we’re talking about here, not NY or MA.

Mr. Arkadin on February 18, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Any new laws on mental illness..? Or maybe some new laws requiring enforcement of existing laws..? All the criminals should be compelled to obey the law..?

d1carter on February 18, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Checks should not require disclosing the type of weapon purchased, only the person, and the identity of the purchaser should be deleted if the check comes up clean. Also, these same checks should apply to voting.

andy85719 on February 18, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Do bad guys have to go through background checks too when they buy from the black market? Keep on punishing the law abiding citizen

deuce on February 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM

And buried in the 2000-3000 page background check law (that must be passed before it can be read,) is….???????

Don L on February 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM

If MCcAIN votes for this, it’s time to un-elect McCain and put someone in his place that is pro-gun. And being pro-gun does not mean you compromise. Theres no compromise. Period. Done.

SHALL

NOT

BE

INFRINGED

( DAMNIT ! )

McCain has talked openly about some new form of gun control passing Congress

TX-96 on February 18, 2013 at 5:49 PM

They must disarm the people so that when they come for our private property that they have mortgaged away we can’t defend ourselves.

And don’t think they aren’t taking the long view here. They KNOW exactly what they are doing….

PROTECTING THEIR RULING CLASS power and privilege.

PappyD61 on February 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM

…Also, these same checks should apply to voting.

andy85719 on February 18, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Racist!!! /s

Fenris on February 18, 2013 at 6:04 PM

Another notch in the belt for the “We Did Something That Solves Nothing” party…

hillsoftx on February 18, 2013 at 6:05 PM

http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2020373291_westneat17xml.html

mistake? really?

Forget police drones flying over your house. How about police coming inside, once a year, to have a look around?

As Orwellian as that sounds, it isn’t hypothetical. The notion of police home inspections was introduced in a bill last week in Olympia.

That it’s part of one of the major gun-control efforts pains me. It seemed in recent weeks lawmakers might be headed toward some common-sense regulation of gun sales. But then last week they went too far. By mistake, they claim. But still too far.

“They always say, we’ll never go house to house to take your guns away. But then you see this, and you have to wonder.”

That’s no gun-rights absolutist talking, but Lance Palmer, a Seattle trial lawyer and self-described liberal who brought the troubling Senate Bill 5737 to my attention. It’s the long-awaited assault-weapons ban, introduced last week by three Seattle Democrats.

Responding to the Newtown school massacre, the bill would ban the sale of semi-automatic weapons that use detachable ammunition magazines. Clips that contain more than 10 rounds would be illegal.

But then, with respect to the thousands of weapons like that already owned by Washington residents, the bill says this:

“In order to continue to possess an assault weapon that was legally possessed on the effective date of this section, the person possessing shall … safely and securely store the assault weapon. The sheriff of the county may, no more than once per year, conduct an inspection to ensure compliance with this subsection.”

In other words, come into homes without a warrant to poke around. Failure to comply could get you up to a year in jail.

PappyD61 on February 18, 2013 at 6:06 PM

GUNNER-voter law. INSTANT checks on guns apply to voters.

andy85719 on February 18, 2013 at 6:06 PM

…Also, these same checks should apply to voting.

andy85719 on February 18, 2013 at 5:59 PM

At least to the second and third and fourth, etc. times they vote in the same election.

VorDaj on February 18, 2013 at 6:10 PM

SCREW ‘COMPROMISE’ YOU RINO DIPSHITS

rayra on February 18, 2013 at 6:10 PM

It’s not a ‘gunshow loophole’ dumbass, it’s a private sale ‘loophole’.

Some enterprising reporter needs to ask Johnny Mac if he’s ever been to a gun show. In fact, this should be a litmus test of Republican candidates.

slickwillie2001 on February 18, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Most of the Senate will support universal background checks

Most of the Senate is Democrat.

besser tot als rot on February 18, 2013 at 6:11 PM

SCREW ‘COMPROMISE’ YOU RINO DIPSHITS

rayra on February 18, 2013 at 6:10 PM

McCain, Graham and Rubio – The Three Amigos.

VorDaj on February 18, 2013 at 6:12 PM

cripe..yes he is my senator
*head hanging in shame*

cmsinaz on February 18, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Don’t feel too bad, I have harry red.

VegasRick on February 18, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Let’s see the US Military has in place a process to confiscate US citizens guns. Universal background checks….will lead to a national registration and ultimately confiscation….Then we can be just like Canada and Australia, and so on…..I’m really tired of these people in Washington DC.

canesfan on February 18, 2013 at 6:13 PM

‘universal background checks’ is double-speak for ‘national gun registration’

If it becomes law the black market for guns is going to increase dramatically, I predict, perhaps even surpassing the legal market.

FloatingRock on February 18, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Galt2009 on February 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM

I am so sick of this person being the face of the Republican
Party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course, the MSM loves him.

Wish the people of AZ could do something to get rid of him.

Barred on February 18, 2013 at 5:55 PM

The sickening thing about this is that after this lose of our liberty there inevitably will be another massacre – the Proppressives have admitted to the fact that their destruction of liberty this time around won’t change jack squat.

So what are they going to surrender the next time around? Registration? Arbitrarily defined ‘Assault Weapons’?

The what will happen the next time around… and the next……….

Galt2009 on February 18, 2013 at 6:15 PM

I

WILL

NOT

COMPLY

SirGawain on February 18, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Compromise with progressives only means on thing.

Their ultimate goal is only a few more legislative sessions away.

IDIOTS!

katy on February 18, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Hey patriot McCain. I want you to lift and hold your arms up over your head for awhile. You aren’t done suffering for your country.

tom daschle concerned on February 18, 2013 at 6:18 PM

…PROTECTING THEIR RULING CLASS power and privilege.

PappyD61 on February 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM

AZ better un-elect McCain this term. This must happen, or gun owners are in big trouble, if This nonsense passes. Incremental, it will be until we are fighting for the right to have a shotgun like the UK.

AZ!—> Tell McCain hes OUT if he votes for any new gun law that!

TX-96 on February 18, 2013 at 6:19 PM

None of this would do anything to stop what happened in Newtown or Aurora or any of the shootings the gun grabbers are trying to jump on. Compromising on completely unrelated restrictions is not something any Second Amendment advocate should support. GOP being typical useful idiots.

Daemonocracy on February 18, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Its not about that though, dont forget. It’s simply about control.

None of this would do anything to stop what happened in Newtown or Aurora or any of the shootings the gun grabbers are trying to jump on. Compromising on completely unrelated restrictions is not something any Second Amendment advocate should support. GOP being typical useful idiots.

Daemonocracy on February 18, 2013 at 6:19 PM

TX-96 on February 18, 2013 at 6:21 PM

In exchange for uni checks, they should demand gun comity. Everyone has been checked, so this shouldn’t be a problem. Not that this will happen, but doing so would make up for the intrusion.

andy85719 on February 18, 2013 at 6:22 PM

Wish the people of AZ could do someting to get rid of him.

Barred on February 18, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Oh, they could….

ladyingray on February 18, 2013 at 6:23 PM

If this legislation passes I predict it will be a huge boon for BitCoin and the SilkRoad website. Few are going to want to buy guns knowing the government is just going come and take them. They’re going to start buying guns that the government will have no record of, bypassing background checks altogether.

And by driving legal gun owners into the black market the black market will thrive and expand, making it even easier for real criminals to find guns on the black market.

FloatingRock on February 18, 2013 at 6:24 PM

When push comes to shove, I think Boehner would rather violate the “Hastert Rule” and push this thing through with mostly Democratic votes than risk handing Obama a potential weapon for 2014 by rejecting something that even many Senate Republicans support.

How many GOP need to flip?

ladyingray on February 18, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Not sure about Dems, but I wouldn’t write off Murcokesky and Collins too quickly. Collins has a B+ and Murcokesky an A from NRA. This is Maine and Alaska we’re talking about here, not NY or MA.Mr. Arkadin on February 18, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Not sure that means too much. An Alaskan helped get him re-elected.

a capella on February 18, 2013 at 6:26 PM

Is McCain the Rep leader in the Senate now?
What has happened to McConnell?
Why the heck am I reading all this crud about McCain?
Has he been elected Senate minority leader?
The Rino’s are going to destroy this country because they want to please the press with their bi-partisanship! After 2008, it seems McCain would have learned that the media is not his friend.

The Rino’s won’t even support the 2nd amendment now and are supporting illegal activity vis-a-vis immigration. Can Rance Priebus post a memo of what the Republican Party
stands for now? It certainly isn’t a strong military, small government, controlled borders, or the 2nd Amendment.

I’m so sick of McCain being the voice of the Republican Party!

Ibanez Lotus on February 18, 2013 at 6:26 PM

Two things: I don’t think this will pass the house, and Republicans who support this will need to find another line of work.

applebutter on February 18, 2013 at 6:26 PM

And by driving legal gun owners into the black market the black market will thrive and expand, making it even easier for real criminals to find guns on the black market.

FloatingRock on February 18, 2013 at 6:24 PM

YUP!

ladyingray on February 18, 2013 at 6:26 PM

It’s about registration. That’s not possible now because the government doesn’t know when people get rid of their know when someone sells a gun. But when every point of sale is recorded… We have de facto registration. Anyone want to trust Holder to destroy the records? Just because he’s required to by law?

applebutter on February 18, 2013 at 6:32 PM

If this passes, the Republicans will lose control of the House in 2014. Maybe that’s the objective, maybe Boner is tried of the gavel.

jjnco73 on February 18, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Oh great, speaking of RINO’s:

RINO Concern Troll David Frum Wants Congress To Convene Witch Hunt Hearings On Gun Manufacturers Like It Did With Tobacco Companies In The 1990s…
http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/18/rino-concern-troll-david-frum-wants-congress-to-convene-witch-hunt-hearings-on-gun-manufacturers-like-it-did-with-tobacco-companies-in-the-1990s/

Frum hasn’t had a conservative thought in over 20 years, still doesn’t stop the MSM from hyping him as a Republican/conservative.

Obama needs a ‘Plan B’ on guns — David Frum, CNN

Colbyjack on February 18, 2013 at 6:35 PM

Let’s start with all politicians and their body guards—full background check. What’s good for the goose………

Rovin on February 18, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Well, with the chief politician (POTUS) that would open up the “birther” can of worms, wouldn’t it now.

Can’t have that nonsense!
/s

Dr. ZhivBlago on February 18, 2013 at 6:42 PM

If this passes, the Republicans will lose control of the House in 2014. Maybe that’s the objective, maybe Boner is tried of the gavel.

jjnco73 on February 18, 2013 at 6:34 PM

I would hope so, but we need to make sure that the new freedom and liberty party, whatever it’s called, takes over after the GOP’s demise.

FloatingRock on February 18, 2013 at 6:44 PM

why is McCain suddenly the spokesperson on everything? Can’t he please just go away?

whatabunchoflosers on February 18, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Will someone please tell me how universal background checks do NOT constitute universal gun (or at least gun owner) registration? They take all your ID information written on a form that is never supposed to be lost or destroyed. It is used to check a government database that no doubt records that an inquiry was made (despite the law, data never disappears). The ATFE or FBI can demand all sales records from the sellers. When a seller retires or changes his license, ATFE can take charge of his previous check forms. It is registration. This is unAmerican evil and the pandering unAmerican RINOS are evil.

ironked on February 18, 2013 at 6:51 PM

I do hope that someone is keeping a list of all the state-level anti-gun stuff, preferably with a matrix of gun control elements.

Barry is just the figurehead in this. The latest state i’ve heard is now NM.

https://politicalfireball.wordpress.com/2013/02/18/new-mexico-legislator-introduces-new-york-style-assault-weapon-ban-to-house/

the actual bill is included, and seems to include pretty much anything that is semi-automatic. (at least on a first read)

now i know that these things are just fodder for various left wing groups and may not become law..and in some cases (the inspection business in WA) seems to be poorly crafted, or crafted to fail.

r keller on February 18, 2013 at 6:51 PM

Sen. Graham: “My belief is universal background checks are going to require universal registry of weapons,” Graham said when asked about closing the gun show loophole. “My belief is that’s the wrong road to take.”

The end result! Gun taxation and confiscation is the ultimate goal!

jjnco73 on February 18, 2013 at 6:51 PM

If this passes, the Republicans will lose control of the House in 2014. Maybe that’s the objective, maybe Boner is tried of the gavel.

jjnco73 on February 18, 2013 at 6:34 PM

What difference does it make?

The Ruling class Progressive infested Congress will still control the place. If they go full tilt Marxist under Pelosi or 1/2 Tyranny under the enablers in the gop what’s the difference?

The re-education camps start getting full in 2017 or 2025?

PappyD61 on February 18, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Per The National Criminal Justice Reference Service:

“According to the latest available data, those who use guns in violent crimes rarely purchase them directly from licensed dealers; most guns used in crime have been stolen or transferred between individuals after the original purchase.”

93%: Percentage of ALL firearms used in criminal acts that are OBTAINED ILLEGALLY, ie, on the street, through theft, etc, according to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

Fewer than 2%: Percentage of guns inmates had obtained the guns that they used in the commission of their crimes from a flea market or gun show, according to the Survey of State Prison Inmates.

12%: Percentage of guns inmates had obtained the guns that they used in the commission of their crimes from a retail store or pawnshop, according to the Survey of State Prison Inmates.

80%: Percentage of guns inmates had obtained the guns that they used in the commission of their crimes from a street buy, an illegal source, friends or family, according to the Survey of State Prison Inmates.

Less than 2%: Percentage of inmates incarcerated for gun-related crimes that used a military-style assault weapon.

72.5%: Percentage of ALL gun-related homicides in 2011 committed with handguns.

18.5%: Percentage of ALL gun-related homicides in 2011 committed “firearms, type not stated.”

4.2%: Percentage of ALL gun-related homicides in 2011 committed with shotguns.

3.8%: Percentage of ALL gun-related homicides in 2011 committed with rifles of ALL KINDS, INCLUDING “ASSAULT RIFLES.”

1.1%: Percentage of ALL gun-related homicides in 2011 committed with “other guns.”

0.1%: Percentage of the 71,000 people, who lied on their background checks in 2009 and were prosecuted by the Obama administration.

“We don’t have time to prosecute everybody who lies on background checks.”

– Vice-President Joe Biden

Gun Control By The Numbers

Resist We Much on February 18, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Will someone please tell me how universal background checks do NOT constitute universal gun (or at least gun owner) registration?

ironked on February 18, 2013 at 6:51 PM

The only difference is the private sale that would allow a gun owner to say they sold it to someone and can’t recall who. If that is removed then it is defacto complete registration.

sharrukin on February 18, 2013 at 6:54 PM

THIS is what registering your guns gets you:

In order to continue to possess an assault weapon that was legally possessed on the effective date of this section, the person possessing shall … safely and securely store the assault weapon. The sheriff of the county may, no more than once per year, conduct an inspection to ensure compliance with this subsection.”

In other words, come into homes without a warrant to poke around. Failure to comply could get you up to a year in jail.

“I’m a liberal Democrat — I’ve voted for only one Republican in my life,” Palmer told me. “But now I understand why my right-wing opponents worry about having to fight a government takeover.”

He added: “It’s exactly this sort of thing that drives people into the arms of the NRA.”

I have been blasting the NRA for its paranoia in the gun-control debate. But Palmer is right — you can’t fully blame them, when cops going door-to-door shows up in legislation.

So, is anyone feeling better about being law abiding citizens now? Is anyone happy that they still aren’t involved in the fight at the grass roots level?

If not you, ^^^THIS^^^!

DannoJyd on February 18, 2013 at 7:00 PM

Registering for confiscation

Brian Lilley gives an important warning to his American friends: Registration of firearms will lead to the confiscation of firearms.

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/featu…n/2081848359001

FloatingRock on February 18, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Benedict McCain

Bmore on February 18, 2013 at 7:09 PM

Here’s the link from above, I think it will work in this format.

FloatingRock on February 18, 2013 at 7:12 PM

Why oh why can’t we make him go away. I used to think it was impossible to even imagine some of these laws going into effect. Who would even imagine any lawmaker would suggest the police could “inspect” the home of legal gun owners? Or a father couldn’t give his child a gun as a gift?

Or there would be an Republican anywhere who would even give these regulations a thought. I’m not one to panic, but things are getting scary out there.

marnes on February 18, 2013 at 7:12 PM

Dontcha just wish McCain would shut up?

Guy has made a career of undercutting Republicans ….. and calls it “leadership.”

BD57 on February 18, 2013 at 7:27 PM

I really don’t think the progressives will stop at anything. Liberty and freedom are at stake and our government has become tyrannical. Patriots know what must be done.

trs on February 18, 2013 at 7:33 PM

So once a background check is performed is the data deleted? Or does it go on the data base for future consideration?

Like knowing where every gun owner is.

Speakup on February 18, 2013 at 7:41 PM

You call it compromise and I call it capitulation. We have the exact same result. We lose again.

Third party!

Don L on February 18, 2013 at 7:47 PM

Background checks by any other name is called gun registration.

Don L on February 18, 2013 at 7:48 PM

One of the major gun-control efforts in Olympia this session calls for the sheriff to inspect the homes of assault-weapon owners… The notion of police home inspections was introduced in a bill last week in Olympia.
 
Rovin on February 18, 2013 at 5:48 PM

 
It would be amazing to see how many people sold their “assault weapons” in-state (no paperwork) before such a law took effect.

rogerb on February 18, 2013 at 7:48 PM

VegasRick on February 18, 2013 at 6:12 PM

touche

cmsinaz on February 18, 2013 at 8:01 PM

TRAITOR!

annoyinglittletwerp on February 18, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Quisling is a far more powerful, and totally accurate, name for McCain. Squishling is a good title for weak idiots like McConnell, Graham, Rubio, Cantor and Boner. I’m sick of the entire lot.

Quartermaster on February 18, 2013 at 8:25 PM

I’m sick to death of this spineless attention whore. As far as I’m concerned, he’s deliberately violating his oath of office. He no longer believes (if he ever did) in the US Constitution. He’s no different than the marxists across the aisle with whom he longs to make kissy-face.

I no longer care that he served his country.

I no longer care that he was a POW.

I no longer care that his experience left him disabled.

He’s become no different that Hanoi Jane pointing an enemy AA gun at her own countrymen.

He of all people should know better.

CurtZHP on February 18, 2013 at 8:30 PM

No surprise but newsworthy insofar as I think this is the first time a Republican as prominent as McCain has talked openly about some new form of gun control passing Congress.

McAShame’s “prominence” is that he’s long been the most detested, abhorred, hated person in the GOP – which is no mean feat; that’s for sure.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 18, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Quisling is a far more powerful, and totally accurate, name for McCain. Squishling is a good title for weak idiots like McConnell, Graham, Rubio, Cantor and Boner. I’m sick of the entire lot.

Quartermaster on February 18, 2013 at 8:25 PM

Minor correction: Rubio is The “Worm”.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 18, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Most of the Senate will support universal background checks
In other words McCain and a few other RINOs will support it with all the Democrats.

McCain is a disgrace. He is the Democrats secret weapon only a Republican because he can help the Democrats more registered as a Republican.

So far as this it is Universal Registration the Confiscation.

This is an utter farce a complete lie. We are following Canada and Australasia and will lose our guns if we allow this.

Steveangell on February 18, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Before the secret memo, there was logic: You cannot ensure that private sellers comply without total registration. Period. Closing the “Gun Show Loophole” is gun registration, and any bill will end up being written allowing the Obama admin latitude to implement it.

Resistance is NOT futile.

Spartacus on February 18, 2013 at 9:34 PM

McCain and the rest of the RINOS: Anything goes just so we can keep out seats of power. Corruption.

bluefox on February 18, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Sen. Graham: “My belief is universal background checks are going to require universal registry of weapons,” Graham said when asked about closing the gun show loophole. “My belief is that’s the wrong road to take.”

The end result! Gun taxation and confiscation is the ultimate goal!

jjnco73 on February 18, 2013 at 6:51 PM

Oh my, Johnny Mac and Miss Lindsay are on the outs. What next.

slickwillie2001 on February 18, 2013 at 10:26 PM

I’m so sick of McCain being the voice of the Republican Party!

Ibanez Lotus on February 18, 2013 at 6:26 PM

McConnell is hiding under his desk, since he’s up for re-election in 2014.

bluefox on February 18, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Tomorrow grandpa mccain will flip and deny he ever said such a thing, then accuse the president of planting a video of him saying the same words…and somehow bring up Bengazi.
Conservative will go wild.

greataunty on February 18, 2013 at 11:16 PM

I’m not giving up or registering jackshit.
When the war begins, I don’t want to be left holding nothing but my yingyang.

justltl on February 19, 2013 at 1:34 AM

I have a letter from Sen Donnelly (D-INDIANA) stating that he would oppose any new gun control laws.

southsideironworks on February 19, 2013 at 8:15 AM

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