Colorado legislature makes moves on more gun control — with a little extra push from Biden

posted at 3:31 pm on February 18, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

After a marathon session of debate on Friday, Colorado lawmakers got two steps closer to passing a couple of new state-wide gun restrictions, including background checks on private gun sales and placing capacity limits on ammunition magazines. The NYT reports:

After hours of debate that lasted well into the evening, Colorado’s House of Representatives gave initial approval to legislation requiring background checks on private gun sales and placing limits on ammunition magazines — measures that were being watched nationally by advocates on both sides of the issue. …

“All this bill does is make us law-abiding citizens go through another hoop,” said State Representative Jerry Sonnenberg, a Republican from Sterling. “It doesn’t stop criminals, those that can’t get background checks, those that are felons, from breaking into my house and stealing my guns. Doesn’t stop them from meeting a guy down the street and buying a gun there.”

But with Democrats holding a majority in the House, both bills received preliminary approval. The bills must receive a final House vote, which could come as early as Monday, before heading to the State Senate, where Democrats also outnumber Republicans.

Funnily enough, those happen to be some of the exact sorts of ideas currently being pushed by the White House — which probably explained why the vice president made a few calls to more moderate Democratic Colorado legislators facing the politically difficult vote, just to give ‘em a little nudge in the White House’s preferred direction. Biden happened to be vacationing in nearby Aspen, and took it upon himself to communicate just how helpful it would be for the national narrative the Obama administration is trying to push if state legislatures really got behind the ideas on their own. The Washington Times reports:

Mr. Biden, who was vacationing Friday in Aspen, called a handful of Democratic legislators from swing districts to urge them to support the proposals, which included universal background checks for gun transfers and a 15-round limit on ammunition magazines.

“I was totally surprised,” Democratic state Rep. Tony Exum of Colorado Springs told Fox affiliate KDVR-TV. “He [Mr. Biden] just said he’s watching us and asked if we had a chance to move these bills forward and said what an important signal it would send to the country if we do.”

Really, it would just be so accommodating of Colorado if they could help provide political ammunition with which the White House could bolster their own gun-control messaging and agenda, you know. A Western swing state supporting their own versions of Obama’s proposals would make for some mighty convenient political cover — even if it does mean possible trouble for some of those state Democrats come the next election time, seeing as how the state House just went from Republican to Democratic control last November:

Though it took lawmakers more than five fours to debate the first bill, the magazine measure, Republicans weren’t looking at their watches — but at the 2014 calendar.

They predict Democrats in swing districts who vote for the gun bills are going to be in big trouble back home.

“I think it’s going to produce incredible results for us in 2014,” said Rep. Amy Stephens, R-Monument.


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No bluff: Ammo mag company Magpul, other firms will leave if Colorado gun-grabber bills pass; Update: CO House passes mag limit
http://michellemalkin.com/2013/02/18/no-bluff-ammomag-company-magpul-other-firms-will-leave-if-colorado-gun-grabber-bills-pass/

Arrogant Democrats here in Colorado have fooled themselves into thinking that companies like Magpul are bluffing. The company fired back last night on Facebook:

We’re hearing some rumors that the Gov and the Dem caucus think we are bluffing. Just to clarify for them, then…we’re not a political company. We don[']t play political games. We’ve made our position very clear, very publicly. We would not survive lying to our customer base, nor would we ever consider it. If you pass this, we will leave, and you will own it. We’ve already got plans in place to get PMAG manufacturing moved rapidly, and the rest of the company will follow. We will make sure to at least have a small remain-behind operation through the 2014 elections so that we can remind folks why we are gone.

Galt2009 on February 18, 2013 at 3:35 PM

But if they can save just one life…/

I’ve been going to Colorado to do my Elk hunting – guess it’s time that I started spending my money elsewhere.

Hill60 on February 18, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Lead by example, Biden. Limit your secret service detail to the ammunition capacities you deem worthy for your subjects.

rogerb on February 18, 2013 at 3:35 PM

And more employers moving to Texas. A manufacturer of magazines that employs hundreds in the states says they are leaving if the measure passes. Other manufacturers will likely follow suit.

michaelo on February 18, 2013 at 3:38 PM

I think it’s a good thing. Why? Because any law passed in blue and purple states that serves to sharpen the divide between the wannabe tyrants on the Left and Constitutionalists is good. Anything that will sharen the divide between Red states and Blue states and cause more conservatives to abandon Blue states is good. It just brings us one step closer to an amicable divorce. Let the socialists go their own way. It will be fun to watch their rapid descent into despotism. I really want to watch unrestrained Liberalism without having to be its victim.

Charlemagne on February 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM

I’m sure all the criminals in Colorado are going to sit up and take notice now….. given that they follow all the other laws on the books..

Galt2009 on February 18, 2013 at 3:43 PM

hmmmmm and then their is this:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/18/concealed-carry-renewed/

RealMc on February 18, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Galt2009 on February 18, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Good for them – I hope they do. Arizona has lovely weather… *hint hint.

You gotta respect companies like these.

On the other hand… I’ve never understood why companies like Smith and Wesson and Remington continue to operate out of states (MA and NY) that have such restrictive gun laws.

Hill60 on February 18, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Wonder what a great number of CO citizens who are for the 2nd think of this? Will they be moving also to states where they aren’t under the d control capital?

I hope that the gun company follows with their treat and moves.

I will tell you something, I will NEVER visit or give one penny to a state that does what CO and NY is doing with our God given 2nd!
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letget on February 18, 2013 at 3:44 PM

^ threat

I should add to the above post, it seems a majority voted for the d’s there in CO so they get what they deserve. Live with it people!
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letget on February 18, 2013 at 3:47 PM

build the rapist’s paradise libruls! build it and they will come!

tom daschle concerned on February 18, 2013 at 3:47 PM

I can’t wait for all the new manufacturing business that will flood into Texas…..

I just crossed Colorado off my list of skiing destinations.

redguy on February 18, 2013 at 3:49 PM

Left that state 18 months ago…no regrets…the Boulder plague had spread southeast to the metro area….

hillsoftx on February 18, 2013 at 3:49 PM

These are the results you should come to expect with one party rule.
Democrat house, senate, and governor result in poor legislation based on “feel good”. The next time a democrat in Colorado says they are concerned about jobs, just throw this back into their face (do you hear me Randy Fischer!!). If the Colorado GOP wasn’t such a joke, they could probably make use of these items to re-take the house and maybe senate in 2014, but I am afraid the stata has become so californicated by now that this is impossible. The state is fast on the road to becoming just another progressive failed utopia, and soon will you will not be able to tell it from all the other failed “utopias” like California, Illinois, and New York. When the collapse comes, where would you rather be, in a progressive hell hole like Denver, NYC, or Chicago, or somewhere where you can see the leecher zombies coming a quarter of a mile away?

djtnt on February 18, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Colorado is turning into California.

Push the middle class out and the wealthy leftists then have a peasant class to push around.

redguy on February 18, 2013 at 3:50 PM

I have been a CO resident since 85 but am now making moves to get out of here. CO was targeted by Soros money and 3 multi-millionaire gay guys . They had a plan which is the name of their book to flip CO to a blue state. Guess they made it. I will be out of here in 2 years.

retiredeagle on February 18, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Our family reunion is in Colorado Springs in June. By then I will have my TX CHL. I will have to keep myself appraised of the the CO CHL state laws.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 18, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Civil unions and Guns thats all the leg care about in CO. at least for now, just wait till they state raising taxes.

ChunkyLover on February 18, 2013 at 3:52 PM

Do these people ever really work, Lordy what a disgrace.

losarkos on February 18, 2013 at 3:52 PM

I have friends that just moved to rural co. I was looking for work there, but not anymore. Build your secular humanist utopian hell on earth Democrats. may you all suffer the consequences to the uttermost.

tom daschle concerned on February 18, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Sharpening the divide.

Dems purging their own.

How long before they publicly go full totalitarian?

Charlemagne on February 18, 2013 at 3:54 PM

The Ayes,No`s,Excused,and Absents,… Roll Call!

HB13-1224 passes at the State Capitol on Feb. 18, 2013. (THE DENVER POST | Joe Amon)
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http://www.denverpost.com/portlet/article/html/imageDisplay.jsp?contentItemRelationshipId=4951028

canopfor on February 18, 2013 at 3:54 PM

This is just the beginning. Other industries will start moving out of states and cities.

Eventually, you will see rural farms that will refuse to provide food to the cities.

Ditkaca on February 18, 2013 at 3:55 PM

And just to the south of Colorado, unfortunately:

NM HOUSE COMMITTEE COULD HEAR HB 402, NEW YORK-STYLE GUN & MAGAZINE BAN, THIS COMING THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 21!…..

HB 402 by state Representative Stephen Easley (D-Eldorado), bans the future possession, transfer and transport of so-called “assault weapons” or “large-capacity ammunition-feeding devices.” All such property owned in New Mexico prior to July 1, 2013 would be grandfathered, but the burden of proving ownership prior to that date is placed on the owner. Proving the date of purchase can be almost impossible and serial numbers do not exist on many magazines.

Ownership of the affected firearms and magazines could not be transferred AT ALL. The only means of disposing of them would be through a gun “buyback” or turn-in program to law enforcement – no inheritance, no allowing a friend or relative to take custody of the prohibited property, no selling or transferring the property out-of-state or even to a federally-licensed dealer. Grandfathered owners of the firearms described below would be required to store them in a locked gun safe at all times except when the guns are being transported or used. Transport would only be lawful if the firearm is unloaded, any detachable magazine is removed and the gun is equipped with a triggerlock.

The definition of “assault weapon” in HB 402 is an unmitigated disaster. It doesn’t list specifically-banned models and instead imposes a “one-feature test” for rifles, shotguns and pistols, as well as a catch-all for “a semi-automatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun or firearm.” A banned feature for both semi-automatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and semi-automatic shotguns would be a “secondhand grip” OR a “protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand.” Of course, ALL rifles and shotguns feature some sort of secondary gripping surface, as by definition they are designed or made to be fired from the shoulder and gripped with two hands. So HB 402 could essentially ban ALL semi-automatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and ALL semi-automatic shotguns, unless they fit into one of the very narrow exemptions in this bill.

HB 402 also bans ammunition feeding devices with a capacity to accept more than ten rounds of ammunition or that contain more than seven rounds of ammunition. This is just one example of how poorly-drafted this bill is in a rush to follow New York’s lead (where gun control advocates sought to reduce the existing ten round state limit.) Additionally, HB 402 includes prohibitions on items specifically excluded in even the most far-reaching bans we’ve seen to-date: full ten-round magazines routinely used for competition and feeding devices that are curios or relics!

This is one of the worst gun control bills filed in the entire country…..

LegendHasIt on February 18, 2013 at 3:56 PM

No bluff: Ammo mag company Magpul, other firms will leave if Colorado gun-grabber bills pass; Update: CO House passes mag limit…

Galt2009 on February 18, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Obama will just have the NLRB order them to stay (only half kidding).

Fenris on February 18, 2013 at 3:58 PM

I left 8 years ago. Got sick of the stoners and pervs in every workplace on the Front Range. They have statewide legal marijuana now, so taking the rest of their liberty will be easy.

Demonized on February 18, 2013 at 3:58 PM

If the American people continue to move to states that support their worldview, a good thing if you support federalism, it won’t be long before we can become two nations.

How fast would a Leftist USA become a dictatorship?

Charlemagne on February 18, 2013 at 3:59 PM

I find it incredibly hypocritical how people who have lifetime security details of heavily armed men protecting them and their families 24 hours/day lecture the rest of us about how we don’t need guns to protect ourselves and our families?

Mahdi on February 18, 2013 at 3:59 PM

Eventually, you will see rural farms that will refuse to provide food to the cities.

Well if that was to happen, bho would ‘take’ the farms away from the owners, for the ‘greater good of fairness’ to redistribute the farm produce?

DO NOT put it past bho/team!
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letget on February 18, 2013 at 4:00 PM

I really like the idea of the gun industry limiting the sale of guns and ammunition to law enforcement in gun control states to the guns and ammunition that law-abiding citizens are allowed to carry.

Outlander on February 18, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Obama vacations in Florida. Michelle and Biden vacation in Aspen. Interesting.

weaselyone on February 18, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Dear Leader working on his “War on Women” with Tiger..?

d1carter on February 18, 2013 at 4:02 PM

All gun bills are coming out of the WH!

They are being written by the WH.

State reps are being promised goodies and threatened with retaliation at the same time.

The Feds are orchestrating a US gun confiscation program from the top down!

THINGS are so freaking out of control!!!

katy on February 18, 2013 at 4:02 PM

According to State Rep Clare Levy(D-Boulder),on now,it didn`t
come from Biden,but the FACULTY!!!!!!

LIVE STREAMING FEED ON NOW:

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22613895/colorado-house-debate-gun-bills-again-but-limited

Just IN:

Colorado House passes bills to require background checks on private gun sales, fees for those checks – @denverpost

6 mins ago from http://www.denverpost.com by editor
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http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22613895/colorado-house-debate-gun-bills-again-but-limited

canopfor on February 18, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Galt2009 on February 18, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Good for them – I hope they do. Arizona has lovely weather… *hint hint.

You gotta respect companies like these.

On the other hand… I’ve never understood why companies like Smith and Wesson and Remington continue to operate out of states (MA and NY) that have such restrictive gun laws.

Hill60 on February 18, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Me neither – they threatened as such before, but who knows if they will follow through.

Perhaps if we have choice, we all should just patronize those concerns inside the Gun-Freedom zones.

Galt2009 on February 18, 2013 at 4:05 PM

MAGPUL was not bluffing. They will pack up and leave. I hope they move to TEXAS with the rest of us freedom lovers.

TX-96 on February 18, 2013 at 4:05 PM

NM HOUSE COMMITTEE COULD HEAR HB 402, NEW YORK-STYLE GUN & MAGAZINE BAN, THIS COMING THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 21!…..

The definition of “assault weapon” in HB 402 is an unmitigated disaster. It doesn’t list specifically-banned models and instead imposes a “one-feature test” for rifles, shotguns and pistols, as well as a catch-all for “a semi-automatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun or firearm.” A banned feature for both semi-automatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and semi-automatic shotguns would be a “secondhand grip” OR a “protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand.” Of course, ALL rifles and shotguns feature some sort of secondary gripping surface, as by definition they are designed or made to be fired from the shoulder and gripped with two hands. So HB 402 could essentially ban ALL semi-automatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and ALL semi-automatic shotguns, unless they fit into one of the very narrow exemptions in this bill.

This is one of the worst gun control bills filed in the entire country…..

LegendHasIt on February 18, 2013 at 3:56 PM

I really wish people would finally realize that the “assault weapon” scam is just a means to take out the 2nd amendment.

Given that there is no difference between that meaningless term and the ‘Arms’ in the Bill of rights, it should be readily clear this is the intent of the oppressive party in this nation.

Galt2009 on February 18, 2013 at 4:06 PM

build the rapist’s paradise libruls! build it and they will come!

tom daschle concerned on February 18, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Notice how the trolls who like to call us knuckle-dragging rubes for owning guns never come around to tell us how much they look forward to the rapists’ paradise of their own making.

C’mon out, trolls! Tell us how awesome it is living in a “gun-free zone!”

CurtZHP on February 18, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Who here is still against awarding electoral votes to Presidential candidates by district? The cities are being effectively used to drown out the rural folk in entire states. As the Red States continue to boom economically, more and more idiots from Blue States will move in, and illegally immigrant, to the urban areas in search of work. Their success will be their undoing unless urban areas are checked and balanced.

Daemonocracy on February 18, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Nevada looks better and better… all but Clark County

theblacksheepwasright on February 18, 2013 at 4:12 PM

and illegally immigrant immigrate

Daemonocracy on February 18, 2013 at 4:13 PM

totherightofthem on February 18, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Texans to Mexico:F*ck off!

annoyinglittletwerp on February 18, 2013 at 4:14 PM

How wonderful. Now my son, a student at CSU will be afforded all the same advantages that students at Columbine, Virginia Tech, and the Aurora Century theater had, a posted “gun free” zone! It sure worked out well for all them. Randy Fischer, you now have blood on your hand.

djtnt on February 18, 2013 at 4:16 PM

Texans to Mexico:F*ck off!

annoyinglittletwerp on February 18, 2013 at 4:14 PM

“And don’t make us tell you a third time!”

CurtZHP on February 18, 2013 at 4:16 PM

Nevada looks better and better… all but Clark County

theblacksheepwasright on February 18, 2013 at 4:12 PM

We discussed other states CHL law in my class.
Nevada’s CHL laws aren’t the greatest.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 18, 2013 at 4:16 PM

Texans to Mexico:F*ck off!

You got that right! Can you get your head around Perry doing this? ME either!
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letget on February 18, 2013 at 4:17 PM

SKI NEW MEXICO !

Lucano on February 18, 2013 at 4:17 PM

I’ve called my state senator and my state representative and let them know how I would like them to vote. But this is going down party line and unfortunately it will pass.

Time to move out of this state.

tommer74 on February 18, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Biden happened to be vacationing in nearby Aspen, and took it upon himself to communicate just how helpful it would be for the national narrative the Obama administration is trying to push if state legislatures really got behind the ideas on their own.

Uh, Joe?

James on February 18, 2013 at 4:21 PM

In the meantime, Mexico is asking the U.S. Senate to create a registry of all gun owners in the U.S. border states.

totherightofthem on February 18, 2013 at 4:12 PM

A lot of people don’t realize that Mexico has it’s own version of the 2nd amendment, BUT guns are heavily regulated down South of the border.

How is that working out for them?

Galt2009 on February 18, 2013 at 4:21 PM

I’m sure all the criminals in Colorado are going to sit up and take notice now….. given that they follow all the other laws on the books..

Galt2009 on February 18, 2013 at 3:43 PM

CA Gov. Brown Paroles 377 Convicted Killers

davidk on February 18, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Galt2009 on February 18, 2013 at 3:35 PM

I hope they come to Florida.

Cindy Munford on February 18, 2013 at 4:22 PM

our God given 2nd!
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letget on February 18, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Therein lies the problem. most of them don’t believe in God, so they deny that the right is God-given.

davidk on February 18, 2013 at 4:25 PM


State considers law requiring police to inspect homes of gun owners…

welcome to the Totalitarian states of america

ChunkyLover on February 18, 2013 at 4:25 PM

In the meantime, Mexico is asking the U.S. Senate to create a registry of all gun owners in the U.S. border states.

totherightofthem on February 18, 2013 at 4:12 PM

About a registry of the Fast n’ Furious guns?

About the drug cartels have to register their assault rifles and handguns?

See? See? – Mexico can blow me….another place I have crossed off my list.

I guess we will all be outlaws……

redguy on February 18, 2013 at 4:26 PM

I guess we will all be outlaws……

redguy on February 18, 2013 at 4:26 PM

I don’t have illegal firearms. They’re just “undocumented.”

davidk on February 18, 2013 at 4:29 PM

Notice how the trolls who like to call us knuckle-dragging rubes for owning guns never come around to tell us how much they look forward to the rapists’ paradise of their own making.

C’mon out, trolls! Tell us how awesome it is living in a “gun-free zone!”

CurtZHP on February 18, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Go find a ditch to die in. -lostmotherland

22044 on February 18, 2013 at 4:32 PM

letget on February 18, 2013 at 4:17 PM

I feel my post didn’t really say what I meant. Perry would never let mexico dictate what our state did!

Perry has class and he has a way of telling those who demand our state does something to go pound sand and that goes for mexico also!
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letget on February 18, 2013 at 4:32 PM

They won’t stop. They know relentless. It’s their friend.

rrpjr on February 18, 2013 at 4:33 PM

Colorado has become Minnesota with mountains, right down to the crappy NFL team tradition.

Denver’s hipsters are lamer than those in the TC’s, but they do have better skiing.

Suppose Montana is the next target on the Ruined State list.

Bruno Strozek on February 18, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Nevada looks better and better… all but Clark County

theblacksheepwasright on February 18, 2013 at 4:12 PM

We discussed other states CHL law in my class.
Nevada’s CHL laws aren’t the greatest.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 18, 2013 at 4:16 PM

The only obtrusive CCW law in NV is in Clark County. I got my CCW over a year ago and it was easy-peasy. Move to NV and help us unseat Reid…

Wyznowski on February 18, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Mr. Biden, who was vacationing Friday in Aspen, called a handful of Democratic legislators from swing districts to urge them to support the proposals, which included universal background checks for gun transfers and a 15-round limit on ammunition magazines.

Funny, my husband also called Colorado Democrat legislators about this legislation too (we live in Colorado). He explained that if they pass these bills, we will begin the process to move to Texas and take our 1%’er income with us. I’m originally from Texas, grew up there, so it’ll be going home for me.

LilyBart on February 18, 2013 at 4:38 PM

“Since assault weapons are not a major contributor to US gun homicide and the existing stock of guns is large, an assault weapon ban is unlikely to have an impact on gun violence. If coupled with a gun buyback and no exemptions, then it could be effective.”

- Summary of Select Firearm Violence Prevention Strategies, Department of Justice, 4 January 2013

“I believe in the Second Amendment. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won’t take your handgun away… But I am not going to take your guns away. So if you want to find an excuse not to vote for me, don’t use that one because it just ain’t true. It ain’t true.”

- Senator Barack Obama, 2008

“Banning guns is an idea whose time has come.”

– Senator Joseph Biden, Associated Press, 18 November 1993

Resist We Much on February 18, 2013 at 4:42 PM

The only obtrusive CCW law in NV is in Clark County. I got my CCW over a year ago and it was easy-peasy. Move to NV and help us unseat Reid…

Wyznowski on February 18, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Yep. We need more conservative thinkers here in NV.

VegasRick on February 18, 2013 at 4:44 PM

I’m sure all the criminals in Colorado are going to sit up and take notice now….. given that they follow all the other laws on the books..

Galt2009 on February 18, 2013 at 3:43 PM

CA Gov. Brown Paroles 377 Convicted Killers

davidk on February 18, 2013 at 4:22 PM

I take it NY and CA are competing to be the most dangerous.

Galt2009 on February 18, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Wyznowski on February 18, 2013 at 4:35 PM

I live in Texas.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 18, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Washington State’s bill calls for annual police inspections of gun owner homes for compliance..?

d1carter on February 18, 2013 at 3:59 PM

I live in eastern Washington State; if they pass any gun control bills, (which I doubt because we’ve always been a pro 2nd state), I hope that eastern Washington will quickly split from the west side of the state, either forming our own state or joining Idaho. The only problem with Idaho is their income tax. If they get rid of that and switch to a sales tax model them it could work, otherwise we’ll just have to form our own state.

FloatingRock on February 18, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Go find a ditch to die in. -lostmotherland

22044 on February 18, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Yeah, her “shame and embarrassment” campaign worked really well, didn’t it.

CurtZHP on February 18, 2013 at 4:49 PM

A note to liberals who support MJ legalization in Colorado: if you pass gun control you will drive a share of wealthy conservatives and job creators out of your state and then in a few years when your state is in decline big-gov conservatives like Rush Limbaugh will blame MJ legalization, rather than gun control, and MJ prohibition might be reinstated again.

FloatingRock on February 18, 2013 at 4:56 PM

including background checks on private gun sales

93% of ALL firearms used in criminal acts are OBTAINED ILLEGALLY, ie, on the street, through theft, etc, according to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

Per The National Criminal Justice Reference Service:

“According to the latest available data, those who use guns in violent crimes rarely purchase them directly from licensed dealers; most guns used in crime have been stolen or transferred between individuals after the original purchase.”

Fewer than 2%: Percentage of guns inmates had obtained the guns that they used in the commission of their crimes from a flea market or gun show, according to the Survey of State Prison Inmates.

12%: Percentage of guns inmates had obtained the guns that they used in the commission of their crimes from a retail store or pawnshop, according to the Survey of State Prison Inmates.

80%: Percentage of guns inmates had obtained the guns that they used in the commission of their crimes from a street buy, an illegal source, friends or family, according to the Survey of State Prison Inmates.

Less than 2%: Percentage of inmates incarcerated for gun-related crimes that used a military-style assault weapon.

72.5%: Percentage of ALL gun-related homicides in 2011 committed with handguns.

18.5%: Percentage of ALL gun-related homicides in 2011 committed “firearms, type not stated.”

4.2%: Percentage of ALL gun-related homicides in 2011 committed with shotguns.

3.8%: Percentage of ALL gun-related homicides in 2011 committed with rifles of ALL KINDS, INCLUDING “ASSAULT RIFLES.”

1.1%: Percentage of ALL gun-related homicides in 2011 committed with “other guns.”

“We don’t have time to prosecute everybody who lies on background checks.”

- Vice-President Joe Biden

Resist We Much on February 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM

Depressing. This state is all but gone. I’m not sure how the GOP gets to 270 without it though. Dark times.

cdog0613 on February 18, 2013 at 4:58 PM

0.1%: Percentage of the 71,000 people, who lied on their background checks in 2009 and were prosecuted by the Obama administration.

Resist We Much on February 18, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Welcome to Colorful Colorado!
(a subsidiary of George Soros, Inc.)

djtnt on February 18, 2013 at 5:02 PM

FloatingRock on February 18, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Denver is already considering opting out of the marijuana legalisation.

Denver City Council to vote in April whether to opt out on marijuana

Resist We Much on February 18, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Some creative towns and cities in Colorado ought to entertain resolutions establishing themselves as “sanctuary cities”. I’m thinking you’d get a lot of them to do it.

Dusty on February 18, 2013 at 5:12 PM

0.1%: Percentage of the 71,000 people, who lied on their background checks in 2009 and were prosecuted by the Obama administration.

Resist We Much on February 18, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Prosecuting Criminals is Hard!

Galt2009 on February 18, 2013 at 5:13 PM

Democrats always say they’re not anti-gun. That’s only true until they’re in power, then they’ll stab gun owners in the back every time.

For those who think they can escape to TX or AZ, that won’t help if the Democrats in Washington are encouraged by states like CO to pass national magazine bans and registration. Can you beat it in court? Maybe, but Democrats will be appointing the federal judges, too. If you don’t fight back when the fighting is easy, you’ll end up having to fight with your back against the wall.

Socratease on February 18, 2013 at 5:16 PM

As a current resident of the New People’s Republic of Colofornia, I can tell you without any question at all, my wife and I WILL be moving. I can’t say when exactly, but as soon as we can sell our house, which in Obamaville is going to be crazy hard, without taking a huge loss that is.

Meople on February 18, 2013 at 5:21 PM

Our family reunion is in Colorado Springs in June. By then I will have my TX CHL. I will have to keep myself appraised of the the CO CHL state laws.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 18, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Colorado Springs is a decent area – very Republican, but there are enough libs here in some areas to elect a couple Dems. El Paso County Sheriff was one of the first to say he would not enforce any law that violates the 2nd Amendment.

Colorado has been shifting Dem for awhile, starting with the flood from Kalifornicatia in the 90s, but most are in the Denver-Boulder area – and because of the population, they control the state. Kind of like Chicago controls Illinois.

dentarthurdent on February 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Prosecuting Criminals is Hard!

Galt2009 on February 18, 2013 at 5:13 PM

Of course. Its much easier to prosecute honest citizens who try to obey the rules.

dentarthurdent on February 18, 2013 at 5:37 PM

I’ve been in Colorado over 30 years – but if these bills go through, I’ll have to start considering Texas.

dentarthurdent on February 18, 2013 at 5:39 PM

the left obviously feels it has a strong hand. They have mounted a multi-state approach which will all take a while to wend thru the courts.

They feel that that is pretty much a win-win strategy. The least they’ll achieve is chipping away, getting SCOTUS to approve this or that qualification to the 2A. They believe they are now in a position to hector and threaten SCOTUS.

And…who knows, the big pay off will be if barry gets to replace a conservative justice…then bye-bye 2A.

So having gone underground for 2 decades, even getting the NRA to send money to some Ds, they are back…stronger than ever.

And with Rs in the doldrums, some D will very likely win in 16. So then it will be over. By 2020, very limited 2A (hunters) and single payer.

r keller on February 18, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Depressing. This state is all but gone. I’m not sure how the GOP gets to 270 without it though. Dark times.

cdog0613 on February 18, 2013 at 4:58 PM

You are obviously not Enjoying the Decline.

I am sorry.

GOP=Whigs is a helpful concept.

The GOP showed themselves to be as useless as the Whigs last November.

We need a better alternative, though it will take time and pain.

(Hence, enjoy the decline.)

Let it burn.

Bruno Strozek on February 18, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Denver is already considering opting out of the marijuana legalisation.

Denver City Council to vote in April whether to opt out on marijuana

Resist We Much on February 18, 2013 at 5:04 PM

I hope that they fail, as I hope the anti-gun effort fails.

FloatingRock on February 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Washington State’s bill calls for annual police inspections of gun owner homes for compliance..?

d1carter on February 18, 2013 at 3:59 PM

And from there it goes to searching any house, because, you know..maybe you have an illegal weapon. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear….right?

Mimzey on February 18, 2013 at 6:06 PM

SKI NEW MEXICO !

Lucano on February 18, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Not if their proposed anti-gun law passes.

No more Angel Fire.

No more $$$$ to New Mexico.

Solaratov on February 18, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Nevada looks better and better… all but Clark County

theblacksheepwasright on February 18, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Actually, NV looks worse and worse by day what with all the liberals and illegals from GULAG moving here in droves. Never mind another housing bubble they are making in the process, in another couple of years as Clark Co (and liberal unions full of illegals) go so will NV. Having Arnie Jr . (fake “republican”) as Governor doesn’t help things, either. Look at 2 anti-gun bills, similar to those elsewhere introduced just now and you will understand its just a matter of time.

We moved here a year ago and already looking at our options elsewhere, although AZ may be going same way as NV albeit at slower speed.

riddick on February 18, 2013 at 6:28 PM

And…who knows, the big pay off will be if barry gets to replace a conservative justice…then bye-bye 2A.

r keller on February 18, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Looks like its time for beefed up 24/7 protection to conservative Supremes, ain’t it? God forbid they get hit by a passing car/bus, if you know what I mean.

riddick on February 18, 2013 at 6:30 PM

If you don’t fight back when the fighting is easy, you’ll end up having to fight with your back against the wall.

Socratease on February 18, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Pass the ammo.

chewmeister on February 18, 2013 at 6:36 PM

Looks like Colorado’s takeover by the loons of California is complete.

They totally trash one fine sate and then move on tho the next…like Ebola or swine flu.

Beware Texas…keep the loons and moonbeams out.

Twana on February 18, 2013 at 6:50 PM

…and such proposals will still not stop another Newtown.

CW on February 18, 2013 at 7:07 PM

The only obtrusive CCW law in NV is in Clark County. I got my CCW over a year ago and it was easy-peasy. Move to NV and help us unseat Reid…

Wyznowski on February 18, 2013 at 4:35 PM

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Yep. We need more conservative thinkers here in NV.

VegasRick on February 18, 2013 at 4:44 PM

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I understand there are a number of citizens who would like to FLEE California.

listens2glenn on February 18, 2013 at 7:26 PM

Wonder what a great number of CO citizens who are for the 2nd think of this? Will they be moving also to states where they aren’t under the d control capital?
I hope that the gun company follows with their treat and moves.
I will tell you something, I will NEVER visit or give one penny to a state that does what CO and NY is doing with our God given 2nd!
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letget on February 18, 2013 at 3:44 PM

I’ve had it with these Denver and Boulder liberals. If they retain power in 2014 after this I’m moving my family and my business to Cheyenne. Grew up in colorado. Very pro freedom state up until a few years ago. People from costal states have ruined this place. Sick of it all.

jawkneemusic on February 18, 2013 at 7:54 PM

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