CO Democrat: Even if you feel like you might get raped, you may not, so no guns for you

posted at 9:31 pm on February 18, 2013 by Mary Katharine Ham

Downplaying the threat of rape? Check. Questioning the ability of grown, sentient women to perceive that threat? Check. A man in a position of power presuming to know what’s best for women he knows nothing about? Check. Limiting women’s choices by law in potentially life-threatening situations? Check. Six months ago, this was known as the frightful patriarchy. Now, it’s just another member of the Party of Women doing his part for the good work of gun control.

In arguing for the disarmament of college students in Colorado this week, state Rep. Joe Salazar suggested a novel method of self-defense for women on campus— just chill, ladies.

“It’s why we have call boxes, it’s why we have safe zones, it’s why we have the whistles. Because you just don’t know who you’re gonna be shooting at. And you don’t know if you feel like you’re gonna be raped, or if you feel like someone’s been following you around or if you feel like you’re in trouble when you may actually not be, that you pop out that gun and you pop … pop around at somebody.”

Well, after all, you might not get raped. In Salazar’s world, not only are women incapable of defending themselves against a physical threat, but they are incapable of even identifying a physical threat, and should therefore be deprived of the ability to try. Empowerment! I guess if you are raped, there’s this…safe zone. Look, colleges are welcome to establish safe zones (though criminals are notoriously unobservant of such signage), call boxes, lighted paths, and whistles to help prevent campus attacks. I have benefited from at least a few of these tools, and begrudge no one their use. But I would also like women who choose to arm themselves, in the event that safe zones, call boxes, lights, and whistles don’t work, to retain the right to their chosen tool of prevention.

Revealing Politics has background on the bill in question:

House Bill 13-1226 to prohibit the lawful concealed carry on Colorado college campuses passed the Colorado House of Representatives this morning. Many of the arguments Democrats used to justify the bill included the alcohol and drug use common on campuses coupled with the age and immaturity of average college students. These arguments didn’t resonate with many Republican lawmakers and opponents of the bill who cited Colorado’s intensive training process for obtaining a concealed carry permit and the state’s requirement that permit-holders be 21 years of age, as rebuttal.

Salazar has apologized for revealing how incapable he believes women are. (Notice the framing of the story in local media is not about his comments, but about conservatives objecting to them.)

“I’m sorry if I offended anyone. That was absolutely not my intention,” Salazar said. “We were having a public policy debate on whether or not guns makes people safer on campus. I don’t believe they do. That was the point I was trying to make. If anyone thinks I’m not sensitive to the dangers women face, they’re wrong. “I am a husband and father of two beautiful girls, and I’ve spent the last decade defending women’s rights as a civil rights attorney. Again, I’m deeply sorry if I offended anyone with my comments.”

Charles Cooke notes the University of Colorado’s advice for women under attack. This would be the liberal-sanctioned method of self-defense if the Rep. Salazar method of hoping real hard doesn’t pan out. Passive resistance, bare feet, and your period:

Be realistic about your ability to protect yourself.

Your instinct may be to scream, go ahead! It may startle your attacker and give you an opportunity to run away.

Kick off your shoes if you have time and can’t run in them.

Don’t take time to look back; just get away.

If your life is in danger, passive resistance may be your best defense.

Tell your attacker that you have a disease or are menstruating.

Vomiting or urinating may also convince the attacker to leave you alone.

Yelling, hitting or biting may give you a chance to escape, do it!

Understand that some actions on your part might lead to more harm.

Remember, every emergency situation is different. Only you can decide which action is most appropriate.

“Only you can decide which action is most appropriate.” That is, unless you’d like to use a projectile more potent than vomit, in which case, settle down little missy. You can’t be trusted.

In other “common sense” gun control news, a Washington state bill obliterates the Fourth Amendment for gun owners. Oops:

It seemed in recent weeks lawmakers might be headed toward some common-sense regulation of gun sales. But then last week they went too far. By mistake, they claim. But still too far.

“They always say, we’ll never go house to house to take your guns away. But then you see this, and you have to wonder.”

That’s no gun-rights absolutist talking, but Lance Palmer, a Seattle trial lawyer and self-described liberal who brought the troubling Senate Bill 5737 to my attention. It’s the long-awaited assault-weapons ban, introduced last week by three Seattle Democrats.

Responding to the Newtown school massacre, the bill would ban the sale of semi-automatic weapons that use detachable ammunition magazines. Clips that contain more than 10 rounds would be illegal.

But then, with respect to the thousands of weapons like that already owned by Washington residents, the bill says this:

“In order to continue to possess an assault weapon that was legally possessed on the effective date of this section, the person possessing shall … safely and securely store the assault weapon. The sheriff of the county may, no more than once per year, conduct an inspection to ensure compliance with this subsection.”

In other words, come into homes without a warrant to poke around. Failure to comply could get you up to a year in jail.

When the sheriff shows up, try vomiting or urinating.


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you need AR-15′s, right…you people are paranoid idiots and suckers for the gun manufacturers who are lining their pockets off you rubes at the expense of Sandy Hook, Aurora, etc…

DBear on February 18, 2013 at 11:58 PM

To get an idea how ingrained this whole fraud about the AR-15 is, look at mass shootings and the weapons used:

Assault rifles were not used in the following:

1. Blacksburg, 2007, 32 dead, 17 injured by gun: A .22-calibre Walther P22 semi-automatic handgun, and a 9 mm semi-automatic Glock 19 handgun.

2. Columbine, 1999, 13 dead, 21 injured: A 12-gauge Savage-Springfield 67H pump-action, Hi-Point 995 Carbine 9 mm carbine, shotgun, a 9 mm Intratec TEC-9 semi-automatic handgun, and a 12-gauge Stevens 311D double-barreled sawed-off shotgun.

3. Austin, 1966, 16 dead, 32 injured: A 12 gauge semi-automatic shotgun, a .35 calibre pump rifle, a .30 calibre carbine, Remington 700 6mm bolt-action hunting rifle, a 9mm Luger pistol, Smith & Wesson M19, .357 Magnum revolver, and a Galesi-Brescia .25-calibre pistol.

4. Tucson, 2011, 6 dead, 13 injured: A 9mm Glock 19 semi-automatic pistol.

5. Iowa City, 1991, 5 dead, 1 injured: A .38-calibre revolver.

6. Jonesboro, 1998, 5 killed, 10 injured: Two semi-automatic rifles, one bolt-action rifle and four handguns.

7. Chardon, 2012, 3 killed, 3 injured: A .22 calibre handgun

8. Red Lake, 2005, 9 killed, 5 injured: A .22 calibre pistol, .40 calibre Glock 23 pistol and a Remington 870 12 gauge pump-action shotgun

9. Springfield, 1985, 3 killed, 7 injured: A Ruger 10/22

10. Fullerton, 1976, 7 killed, 2 injured: A .22 calibre semi-automatic rifle.

11. Nickle Mines, 2006, 5 killed, 5 injured: A Springfield XD 9 mm handgun, a Browning BPS 12 gauge pump-action shotgun, and a Ruger M77 .30-06 bolt action rifle.

12. Sikh temple, 2012, 6 killed, 4 injured: A Springfield XD(M) semi-automatic pistol.

13. Paducah, KY, 1997, 3 killed, 5 injured: A 22 caliber long rifle, a 12 gauge pump-action shotgun, and a Ruger MK II .22-caliber pistol.

14. Howard Johnson’s New Orleans, 1973, 9 killed, 13 injured: A Ruger Model 44 carbine (.44 Magnum) and a Colt .38-caliber revolver.
.
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“Assault weapons”/”assault rifle” – along with other weapons in some cases – used in:

1. Aurora, 2012, 12 dead, 58 injured by gun and other: A a tear gas grenade, a Smith & Wesson M&P15 rifle, a Remington 870 Express Tactical shotgun, and 2 Glock .22 handguns.

2. Cleveland Elementary School in Stockton, 1989, 5 dead, 30 injured by gun: A Type 56 semi-automatic rifle and Taurus PT92 9mm pistol.

3. San Ysidro McDonalds, 1984, 21 dead and 19 injured: An Uzi carbine, a Browning HP, and a 12-gauge Winchester 1200.

4. Clackamas, 2012, 2 dead and 1 injured: An AR-15 semi-automatic rifle.

5. Newtown, 2012, 28 dead and 2 injured: An AR-15 semi-automatic rifle.
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For all of the focus on the AR-15, undoubtedly driven by politicians and the media, the gun was used in only THREE of the incidents that he cited:

1. Clackamas: A Bushmaster AR-15 semi-automatic rifle

2. Newtown: A Bushmaster AR-15 semi-automatic rifle

3. Aurora: A Smith & Wesson M&P15 rifle

As an aside, Jonesboro, Columbine, Paducah, and Springfield happened when the last AWB was in effect.

Resist We Much on February 19, 2013 at 12:05 PM

It’s not just firearms that these dimwits oppose. My daughter is a sophmore at a public university in VA and they forbid not only guns (which she is trained to use now) but mace and hand-held tasers as well. To be found with either of those means expulsion.

SoonerMarine on February 19, 2013 at 12:11 PM

496: The total number of homicides committed with hammers or other blunt objects in the United States in 2011.

Resist We Much on February 19, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Do you have the stats handy on how many accidental deaths and suicides by blunt objects last year?
Injuries/deaths when a blunt object kept at home – not properly secured – got into the hands of a child?

verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Have you ever heard the saying “two wrongs don’t make a right”?

First of all, calling someone fat does not, in my mind, rise to the same level as calling someone a “cumdumpster.” That is so vulgar as to be inexcusable in any context. Regardless, though, even if the two comments were comparable, one should not respond to liberal trolls with the same kind of vile vitriol they throw at us.

Regardless, though, I can’t believe that Mary Katharine is okay with throwing the term “cumdumpster” around.

Shump on February 19, 2013 at 11:08 AM

Conservatives like you are the reason your ideology is a joke right now. Funny how you want to ban me, but cower in fear in front of the leftists on here. You are 100% Republican through and through.

Some day people on your side will understand that speaking to their level is the only way to reach them. And yes I can be a vile son-of-a-b1tch when necessary.

ClassicCon on February 19, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Do you have the stats handy on how many accidental deaths and suicides by blunt objects last year?
Injuries/deaths when a blunt object kept at home – not properly secured – got into the hands of a child?

verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 12:14 PM

you mean like 5 gallon buckets, cars,alcohol, bathtubs, old people who shouldn’t be driving anymore (what’s a matta, afraid to piss off the aarp?), NAIL guns, lead pipes, stairways…..

I’m sure it can be found.

WryTrvllr on February 19, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Do you have the stats handy on how many accidental deaths and suicides by blunt objects last year?
Injuries/deaths when a blunt object kept at home – not properly secured – got into the hands of a child?

verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Outside of the intellectually dishonest way in which you’ve phrased the question, what part of “…the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed” did you miss?

gryphon202 on February 19, 2013 at 12:18 PM

OMG what a baby you are sure why not even though I am not racist against whites, my white ex-bf from North Carolina that I lived with and the many white lovers I have had since would be shocked at this claim. It’s true though I do have a healthy disgust for conservatives, religious people and gun nuts of which *voila* is 99.9% of Hot Air, what a shock!

Personally shump, this part was far more sickening. But at least it revealled itself for what it is.

WryTrvllr on February 19, 2013 at 12:19 PM

So that’s all good. As long as we women don’t protect ourselves from any grown men we can kill all the little innocent guys we want.

Lily on February 19, 2013 at 11:27 AM

I know this is snark, but it sadly has a bit of truth to it. Some of the ‘desire’ to abort a child who is the result of rape has to do with getting back at someone they otherwise feel helpless against.

Is this a consistent concern?

verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Yeah, it is. I’m sure you intend to “contrast” this with abortion by your remark. Sorry, but you don’t get to ignore the other person involved in the case of abortion. It is right to interfere with a woman’s “choice” if that choice is about to kill an innocent person.

GWB on February 19, 2013 at 12:20 PM

swimming pools, magnetic toys, small coins (especially the new zinc pennies), trampolines, rollerblades and healies, baseballs, and of course, my favorite, a rope around your neck while masterbating.

wow.

WryTrvllr on February 19, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Balloons, plastic bags, model glue, any kids toy painted in china, CFL’s moreso than bluefin tuna, oh and 32 ounce soft drinks.

this is so much fun

WryTrvllr on February 19, 2013 at 12:25 PM

a rope around your neck while masterbating.

wow.

WryTrvllr on February 19, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Yeah, but that kind of activity only happens across the border
from me in Jersey…

ToddPA on February 19, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Do you have the stats handy on how many accidental deaths and suicides by blunt objects last year?
Injuries/deaths when a blunt object kept at home – not properly secured – got into the hands of a child?

verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Would it change your opinion on gun rights? More importantly, would it make you stop acting like an idiot?

nobar on February 19, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Balloons, plastic bags, model glue, any kids toy painted in china, CFL’s moreso than bluefin tuna, oh and 32 ounce soft drinks.

this is so much fun

WryTrvllr on February 19, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Tragic and sad when a child is accidently killed or injured by a parent’s 32oz soft drink.

verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Damn Verb

I forgot a WHOLE class.

Boating, skiing, mountain biking, extreme sports, hang gliding, mountain climbing, parachuting, scuba diving, white water rafting, bungee jumping, and again, my personal favorite, playing with the grizzly bears, with your girlfriend and tape recorder in a TENT.

yeah.

It’s so nice of you to be so judgemental against all these activities

WryTrvllr on February 19, 2013 at 12:41 PM

It’s a slow, painful death Verb

WryTrvllr on February 19, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Would it change your opinion on gun rights?

nobar on February 19, 2013 at 12:35 PM

No.
Would it change your opinion on selective statistic referencing?

verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 12:42 PM

This guy needs to be made more infamous than Todd Akin. That’s a project that will aid conservative victory.

sauldalinsky on February 19, 2013 at 12:43 PM

I’m reminded of a friend of mine whose son was killed at a baseball game when a fly ball struck him in the head.

I’m also reminded of Cass Daley, a singer and comedian from the golden age of radio, who died tripping over a glass topped coffee table. A shard of glass slit her throat and she bled to death.

World’s a dangerous place.

If verbaluce and her ilk had their way, we’d all be encased in bubble wrap.

CurtZHP on February 19, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Would it change your opinion on gun rights?

nobar on February 19, 2013 at 12:35 PM

No.
Would it change your opinion on selective statistic referencing?
verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 12:42 PM

You mean like Obama’s selective statistical referencing
on the Economy??

Yeah, my opinion COULD be changed, now that you bring that up…

ToddPA on February 19, 2013 at 12:49 PM

This guy needs to be made more infamous than Todd Akin. That’s a project that will aid conservative victory.

sauldalinsky on February 19, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Ya – but it won’t make any difference. His district is northeast Denver area. The whole Denver-Boulder area is hardcore Dummycrat. There’s a reason it’s called the Peoples’ Republik of Boulder.

If you look at a voting map, most of Colorado is red except for Peoples’ Republik of Denver-Boulder and Pueblo (old steel mill union territory). But the Denver area has the majority of the population, so they control the state.

dentarthurdent on February 19, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Would it change your opinion on gun rights?

nobar on February 19, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Her opinion on gun rights is irrelevant. They are rights, not privileges. I can have all the opinions I want about someone’s right to freedom of speech, but it doesn’t make a difference in whether they get to exercise that right.

CurtZHP on February 19, 2013 at 12:52 PM

World’s a dangerous place.

CurtZHP on February 19, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Indeed.
But infinitely more dangerous with a gun around.
To dismiss that reality, you’d need to ignore facts…as well as just plain common sense.
So…I can expect many here to dismiss that reality.

verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 12:52 PM

ToddPA on February 19, 2013 at 12:49 PM

What’s next…a a movie review?
(And yes…we know you loved Dinesh’s ’2016′… loved loved loved it.)
There’s a topic here.

verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 12:55 PM

http://www.cdc.gov/vitalsigns/ChildInjury/index.html

wow. something is conspicuously absent from this list

WryTrvllr on February 19, 2013 at 12:56 PM

http://www.cdc.gov/vitalsigns/ChildInjury/index.html

and this one too.

WryTrvllr on February 19, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Apparently, liberals believe that legal gun owners have a devil-may-care cavalier attitude about the way they store and care for their guns.

To hear them tell it, we keep a loaded piece in the silverware drawer, right next to the little spoons that our extra carbon-footprint-increasing children use to eat their excessively trans-fat-laden ice cream. We hide our bullets in the toybox.

It’s like it was during the Reagan administration, when they actually believed (and probably still believe) that the nation’s entire nuclear arsenal could be unleashed by simply pushing a big red button that Reagan kept on his nightstand, right next to the glass with his dentures in it.

CurtZHP on February 19, 2013 at 1:00 PM

http://www.chp.edu/CHP/P01650

Funny this one too. Guess noone hunts in PA.

WryTrvllr on February 19, 2013 at 1:04 PM

What’s next…a a movie review?
(And yes…we know you loved Dinesh’s ’2016′… loved loved loved it.)
There’s a topic here.

verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Hmmm, nice post. I’m struck by the Seinfeld episode with
Kramer giving out movie schedules to unsuspecting callers.

“there’s a TOPIC here Verb.”

BTW, I have not seen 2016…do now catch many movies until well
after thay are out…..I prefer the good ol days…
..you know, Clint Eastwood blowing people away with a
357 MAGNUM, the MOST POWERFUL HAND GUN IN THE WORLD
in Dirty Harry….

Come on Verb, we know you LOVED, LOVED, LOVED it!!

ToddPA on February 19, 2013 at 1:04 PM

But infinitely more dangerous with a gun around.
To dismiss that reality, you’d need to ignore facts…as well as just plain common sense.

verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Sorry, but it’s not a fact. First, there’s your hyperbole (funny that you tried to skewer another on statistics, then use “infintiely more dangerous”). Then, there’s the fact that it simply isn’t true that having a gun around makes life more dangerous. Loads of folks are injured/killed with a firearm in a year that don’t have one in their home. Oodles of those are actually at home when injured/killed.

Unless, of course, you mean more dangerous for those who would do us harm. I’ll agree that it does become much more dangerous for the evil people of the world when the good guys have guns. I don’t have a problem with that.

GWB on February 19, 2013 at 1:06 PM

http://www.listosaur.com/miscellaneous/top-5-causes-of-accidental-death-in-the-united-states.html

oops. sorry

WryTrvllr on February 19, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Funny how the libtards aren’t calling for a total ban on swimming pools, cars, poisonous substances, and stairs/steps/ledges/balconies.
“If we can save just one life…” – and by banning all the above, they could save more than 10 times the number of lives than would be saved by banning ALL guns.
But then non-libtards know this isn’t about saving lives – its about control.

dentarthurdent on February 19, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Ya – but it won’t make any difference. His district is northeast Denver area. The whole Denver-Boulder area is hardcore Dummycrat. There’s a reason it’s called the Peoples’ Republik of Boulder.

dentarthurdent on February 19, 2013 at 12:50 PM

It’s fine if he stays in the public eye. Make every other Democrat nationwide own his statement or apologize for it.

sauldalinsky on February 19, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Legally owned guns prevent/save / /crimes/lives every year than they take by a large amount. The NRA and other Gun orgs have those numbers as does the FBI. Gun grabbing is a tried and true tool of wanna be tyrants, it happens every time. Liberalism/progressivism is a practiced art with a definite end in sight practiced by evil people, for the rest who follow it ,,it is a mental disease.

retiredeagle on February 19, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Unless, of course, you mean more dangerous for those who would do us harm. I’ll agree that it does become much more dangerous for the evil people of the world when the good guys have guns. I don’t have a problem with that.

GWB on February 19, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Libtards like verbalunatic DO have a problem with that. They’re all about protecting criminals.

Maybe once the new gun control laws make all of us criminals, the libs will actually like us….//

dentarthurdent on February 19, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Funny how the libtards aren’t calling for a total ban on swimming pools, cars, poisonous substances, and stairs/steps/ledges/balconies.
“If we can save just one life…” – and by banning all the above, they could save more than 10 times the number of lives than would be saved by banning ALL guns.
But then non-libtards know this isn’t about saving lives – its about control.

dentarthurdent on February 19, 2013 at 1:10 PM

What truly pisses me off is their absolute COWARDICE to stand up to the AARP and demand better licensing for older drivers, who can EASILY BE SHOWN, VERB, to kill a highly disproportionate number
of kids. (especially at O’hare in in farmers markets in CA.)

They are pathetic cowards.

WryTrvllr on February 19, 2013 at 1:18 PM

It’s fine if he stays in the public eye. Make every other Democrat nationwide own his statement or apologize for it.

sauldalinsky on February 19, 2013 at 1:16 PM

But idiocy like this didn’t do anything to stop the Dem controlled Colorado House from voting in the 4 new gun control bills.
Now it’s up to the Dem controlled Senate and a Dem governor to stop them – fat chance.

dentarthurdent on February 19, 2013 at 1:21 PM

What truly pisses me off is their absolute COWARDICE to stand up to the AARP and demand better licensing for older drivers, who can EASILY BE SHOWN, VERB, to kill a highly disproportionate number
of kids. (especially at O’hare in in farmers markets in CA.)

They are pathetic cowards.

WryTrvllr on February 19, 2013 at 1:18 PM

AARP is only interested in their own political power. That’s why I will never join it, no matter what kind of trivial discounts I could possibly get.

dentarthurdent on February 19, 2013 at 1:24 PM

World’s a dangerous place.
 
CurtZHP on February 19, 2013 at 12:46 PM

 
Indeed.
But infinitely more dangerous with a gun around.
To dismiss that reality, you’d need to ignore facts…
 
verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 12:52 PM

 
Cite your source.
 
Is it politicsusa.com like before, or somewhere just as scientific and wholly unbiased?
 
Do they have a graphic saying “Kock Block Guns!” or the like?

rogerb on February 19, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Oops. politicususa dot com.
 
And H not k.

rogerb on February 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Indeed.
But infinitely more dangerous with a gun around.
To dismiss that reality, you’d need to ignore facts…as well as just plain common sense.
So…I can expect many here to dismiss that reality.

verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 12:52 PM

The world is infinitely more dangerous without guns around. Ask the Russians, or the Jews, or the Chinese, or any number of people who were disarmed then slaughtered.

The 2nd Amendment was put in place not for personal protection or hunting, but to give people protection from their own government. Nothing is more dangerous than a government that can’t stop meddling in people’s lives and telling them how to live it.

darwin on February 19, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Just looking at this guy you know he’s a perv that bangs underage hookers like his hero menendez.

The more helpless females out there the more arse he gets.

acyl72 on February 19, 2013 at 1:42 PM

What truly pisses me off is their absolute COWARDICE to stand up to the AARP and demand better licensing for older drivers, who can EASILY BE SHOWN, VERB, to kill a highly disproportionate number
of kids. (especially at O’hare in in farmers markets in CA.)

WryTrvllr on February 19, 2013 at 1:18 PM

And imagine if licenses and eye checks weren’t required.
Wait…you’re against that sort of thing.
Right.

verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Now it’s up to the Dem controlled Senate and a Dem governor to stop them – fat chance.

dentarthurdent on February 19, 2013 at 1:21 PM

I hear ya. At the political level we used to be a center right nation just a few years ago and it changed so quickly. Places like Boulder and Berkeley have been laying the groundwork of indoctrination through the education system for decades.

sauldalinsky on February 19, 2013 at 1:46 PM

Come on Verb, we know you LOVED, LOVED, LOVED it!!

ToddPA on February 19, 2013 at 1:04 PM

I liked the first one.
After that…meh.

verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 1:46 PM

World’s a dangerous place.

CurtZHP on February 19, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Indeed.
But infinitely more dangerous with a gun around.
To dismiss that reality, you’d need to ignore facts…as well as just plain common sense.
So…I can expect many here to dismiss that reality.

verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Yeah, the world is a dangerous place with scum like this running it.

A simple question- would you let you son or your dog go out with this vermin? Yeah, that’s what I thought.

acyl72 on February 19, 2013 at 1:47 PM

Indeed.
But infinitely more dangerous with a gun around.
To dismiss that reality, you’d need to ignore facts…

verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Tell that to a woman raped.

itsspideyman on February 19, 2013 at 1:47 PM

And imagine if licenses and eye checks weren’t required.
Wait…you’re against that sort of thing.
Right.

verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 1:44 PM

If a nationalized, POLITICIZED, bureaucracy were in charge, yeah I would be.

WryTrvllr on February 19, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Tell that to a woman raped.

itsspideyman on February 19, 2013 at 1:47 PM

The libs will tell her to just lay back and enjoy it…..

dentarthurdent on February 19, 2013 at 1:52 PM

But infinitely more dangerous with a gun around.
To dismiss that reality, you’d need to ignore facts…
 
verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 12:52 PM

 
Googling for something to back up your religious beliefs, verbaluce?
 
Go ahead. Cite your source. Give us some numbers.

rogerb on February 19, 2013 at 1:52 PM

But not to worry verb, cause GM, the UAW, and the AARP ALL have strong evil lobbying groups.

WryTrvllr on February 19, 2013 at 1:54 PM

And imagine if licenses and eye checks weren’t required.
Wait…you’re against that sort of thing.
Right.

verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Or imagine if citizens had to actually prove their eligibility to vote?
Wait…you’re against rule of law when it negatively impacts your power.
Right.

ClassicCon on February 19, 2013 at 1:59 PM

Googling for something to back up your religious beliefs, verbaluce?

Go ahead. Cite your source. Give us some numbers.

rogerb on February 19, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Well Verb can start with the Copts, Christian Malians, and animists for a good start.

WryTrvllr on February 19, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Do you have the stats handy on how many accidental deaths and suicides by blunt objects last year?
Injuries/deaths when a blunt object kept at home – not properly secured – got into the hands of a child?

verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Gun Control By The Numbers

The #1 killer of children is the swimming pool.

Again, “assault weapons” are responsible for a miniscule amount of deaths.

Resist We Much on February 19, 2013 at 2:04 PM

84%: Percentage of homicides committed with handguns among children and adolescents aged 5-19 years.

46%: Percentage of suicides committed with firearms among children and adolescents aged 5-19.

4 million: Number of children and adolescents injured at school each year.

More than 1 million: Number of serious sports-related injuries that are sustained by adolescents aged 10-17 years each year.

9,622: Number of child passengers aged 0 to 14 years, who died in motor vehicle crashes between 1997 and 2002.

2,335: Number of child passengers aged 0 to 14 years, who died between 1997 and 2002, in crashes involving drink drivers;

68%: Percentage of children 0 to 14 years, who died between 1997 and 2002, in crashes where they were riding with the drink driver.

24%: Percentage of the 9,622 children between 0 to 14 years, who died between 1997 and were killed in crashes involving drinking drivers.

67%: Percentage of all deaths and adolescents aged 5-19 years from injury-related causes.

48%: Percentage of deaths among children and adolescents aged 5-19 years from motor vehicle injuries (occupants and pedestrians combined).

21%: Percentage of deaths among children and adolescents aged 5-19 years from all other unintentional injuries.

16%: Percentage of deaths among children and adolescents aged 5-19 years from homicides.

14%: Percentage of deaths among children and adolescents aged 5-19 years from suicides.

68%: The percentage of unintentional injury deaths among children and adolescents between 5 and 19 years old due to motor vehicle crashes, which also include those sustained while walking, riding a bicycle, or riding a motorcycle.

29%: Percentage of motor vehicle-related deaths were bicyclists in 2005.

3,880: Average number of children ages 15 and younger, who die ANNUALLY due to unintentional drowning-related, but non-boating incidents. The death from drowning rate was 2.55 per 100,000 for these children.

5,789: Number of children hospitalised ANNUALLY due to unintentional drowning-related, but non-boating incidents. 20% suffer severe, permanent neurological disability.

#2: The second most often site of drownings for children 15 and under is the BATHTUB.

#1: The number one killer of children in the US and primary place where drownings occur is the SWIMMING POOL.

IF WE COULD SAVE ***ONE*** LIFE, shouldn’t we ban swimming pools and bathtubs?!!!!

Resist We Much on February 19, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Obama Administration: An AWB Will Not Work. Only Confiscation And A National Gun Registry Will Make Any Difference.

“SINCE ASSAULT WEAPONS ARE NOT A MAJOR CONTRIBUTOR TO US GUN HOMICIDE and the existing stock of guns is large, an assault weapon ban is unlikely to have an impact on gun violence. If coupled with a gun buyback and no exemptions (confiscation), then it could be effective.”

- Summary of Select Firearm Violence Prevention Strategies, Department of Justice, 4 January 2013

Resist We Much on February 19, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Hmmm, I see the trolls have decided to flee the scene. Guess they learned they shouldn’t ask for facts unless they really are ready for them.:)

a capella on February 19, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Hmmm, I see the trolls have decided to flee the scene. Guess they learned they shouldn’t ask for facts unless they really are ready for them.:)

a capella on February 19, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Thought the same thing a capella.

Asking us for the facts when their beliefs are based on unicorn farts?

itsspideyman on February 19, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Makes you wonder if maybe Salazar plans on doing a little night-time campus cruising and wants to make sure he doesn’t get hurt.

Seriously though, the right of self-preservation and self-defense is inherent in all sentient beings. (If you don’t believe this, go catch a skunk.) This is not something some foolish politician can ‘make disappear’ with a wave of his imperial hand. That’s like a politician saying you can only go to the restroom one time a day, or eat once a week.

“The important fact to note about the Bill of Rights is that the founders acknowledged that these rights were not granted by the government, but by the Creator (using whatever name you choose to ascribe to a supreme being), so they cannot be taken away by a government.

There is no legislation, Executive Order, or judicial decision that can alter, diminish, revoke, or repeal any amendment contained within the Bill of Rights.”

People (yes, even politicians) should study the foundational documents of America; The Declaration of Independence, The Constitution, and The Bill of Rights.

xmanvietnam on February 19, 2013 at 3:19 PM

These democrats have the same solution as Islamic misogynist men.

“Make her less attractive. Fake that you are sick or put on a Burqa. You see it is really the woman’s fault that she has made herself the target. Know your place woman! You are weaker and should not defend yourself.”

This is a war on women that is being ignored by feminists. But they selectively ignore it. Think about Iranian women fighting for their rights.

shick on February 19, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Roseanne Barr: ‘Arm the women of the world’ against rapists
http://twitchy.com/2013/02/19/roseanne-barr-arm-the-women-of-the-world-against-rapists/
Count Roseanne Barr among those smacking the University of Colorado at Colorado Springs for its asinine advice to potential female rape victims. No conservative by any stretch of the imagination, Barr has nonetheless come out in defense of the Second Amendment. Today, after retweeting Michelle Malkin, she took to Twitter to voice her support for women arming themselves against sexual predators

Colbyjack on February 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Chico: Farmers! Their families told them we would rape them.
Chris: Well we might. But in my opinion they might have given us the benefit of the doubt.

Pervygrin on February 19, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Hmmm, I see the trolls have decided to flee the scene. Guess they learned they shouldn’t ask for facts unless they really are ready for them.:)

a capella on February 19, 2013 at 2:44 PM

More like their team leaders pulled them off this one.

Can’t have Winston starting to question his programming.

WryTrvllr on February 19, 2013 at 4:33 PM

But for the sake of being humane….

Verb, medicalsupplygroup.com sells ostomy supplies near wholesale.

WryTrvllr on February 19, 2013 at 4:44 PM

oh, I am soooo sorry

WryTrvllr on February 19, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Indeed.
But infinitely more dangerous with a gun around.

verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Yes, to attackers.

Here’s a recent story for you…

dominigan on February 19, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Imagine if Todd Akin said this.

“I’m sorry if I offended anyone. That was absolutely not my intention,”

But he believes it anyway. And low info Democrat women won’t care.

What’s a safe zone, anyway? Is it like a gun free zone? What.. do they have signs up somewhere and a circle drawn on the grass… “Rape Free Zone?” Women are suppose to run to the circle and blow their whistles while the rapists stands there frustrated just outside the circle… angry he couldn’t grab her before she got to the “safe zone” circle?

JellyToast on February 19, 2013 at 5:36 PM

What’s a safe zone, anyway? Is it like a gun free zone? What.. do they have signs up somewhere and a circle drawn on the grass… “Rape Free Zone?” Women are suppose to run to the circle and blow their whistles while the rapists stands there frustrated just outside the circle… angry he couldn’t grab her before she got to the “safe zone” circle?

JellyToast on February 19, 2013 at 5:36 PM

The image has me chuckling despite myself.

But if you read past the concept of a “safe zone”, you wonder what they’re talking about anyway.

itsspideyman on February 19, 2013 at 5:47 PM

What’s a safe zone, anyway? Is it like a gun free zone? What.. do they have signs up somewhere and a circle drawn on the grass… “Rape Free Zone?” Women are suppose to run to the circle and blow their whistles while the rapists stands there frustrated just outside the circle… angry he couldn’t grab her before she got to the “safe zone” circle?

JellyToast on February 19, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Yup – and that works just fine in the libtard fantasy world.
Of course in the real world… well just look up shooting massacres in gun free zones.

dentarthurdent on February 19, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Here’s a recent story for you…

dominigan on February 19, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Looks like that was just 2 days ago.
Do they have any updates with what kind of gun the homeowner (non-victim) used?
I’d love to find out it was an AR.

dentarthurdent on February 19, 2013 at 5:58 PM

I’m a little late to the thread, but I feel sorry for the parents of those daughters living in Co. and Wa. I know that I sleep a little better at night knowing my daughters have conceal carry licenses.

DDay on February 19, 2013 at 6:06 PM

verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Googling for something to back up your religious beliefs, verbaluce?

Go ahead. Cite your source. Give us some numbers.

rogerb on February 19, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Heh like light to a cockroach such a challenge renders the troll silent. Hilarious.

CW on February 19, 2013 at 6:09 PM

I’m a little late to the thread, but I feel sorry for the parents of those daughters living in Co. and Wa. I know that I sleep a little better at night knowing my daughters have conceal carry licenses.

DDay on February 19, 2013 at 6:06 PM

My wife is trying to figure out how she can concealed carry her Draco AK pistol – with 30 (or 40) round magazine.

dentarthurdent on February 19, 2013 at 6:10 PM

**If we cannot trust women with an inanimate object, like a gun, how can we ever trust them with a child???

/

CW on February 19, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Boom! Greg Gutfeld slams outrageous lib rape ‘tips’; ‘The rapist should be crapping, not the victim’
http://twitchy.com/2013/02/19/boom-greg-gutfeld-slams-outrageous-lib-rape-tips-the-rapist-should-be-crapping-not-the-victim/

Colbyjack on February 19, 2013 at 7:04 PM

I guess a safe zone is suppose to work like this

http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/295826/ZOMBIE/

warren on February 19, 2013 at 7:54 PM

Boom! Greg Gutfeld slams outrageous lib rape ‘tips’; ‘The rapist should be crapping, not the victim’

Yes. He should be.

WryTrvllr on February 19, 2013 at 8:34 PM

But infinitely more dangerous with a gun around.
To dismiss that reality, you’d need to ignore facts…as well as just plain common sense.
So…I can expect many here to dismiss that reality.
 
verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 12:52 PM

 
Googling for something to back up your religious beliefs, verbaluce?
 
Go ahead. Cite your source. Give us some numbers.
 
rogerb on February 19, 2013 at 1:52 PM

 
No luck, eh verbaluce?
 
Easier to flee the thread, isn’t it?
 

So…I can expect many here to dismiss that reality.

 
That laughable “reality” you tried so hard to (unsuccessfully) google into existence is your own shallow, unthinking, faith-based political belief. Nothing more.
 
And you proved it when you ran away, btw. You realize that, right?

rogerb on February 19, 2013 at 9:49 PM

World’s a dangerous place.

CurtZHP on February 19, 2013 at 12:46 PM

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Indeed.
But infinitely more dangerous with a gun around.
To dismiss that reality, you’d need to ignore facts…as well as just plain common sense.
So…I can expect many here to dismiss that reality.

verbaluce on February 19, 2013 at 12:52 PM

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You obviously aren’t the least bit concerned with government (on all levels) having “too much control.”

Just how secure is the neighborhood, where you reside?

listens2glenn on February 20, 2013 at 12:37 AM

My take.

kingsjester on February 20, 2013 at 7:07 AM

That dicky bow is shocking.

We need a gun.. I mean dicky bow control law passed now!

EnglishRogue on February 20, 2013 at 7:31 AM

My take.

kingsjester on February 20, 2013 at 7:07 AM

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That’s a pretty good “take”. : )
I copied your tweet debate below, because I liked it so much.

I had posted the following Tweet under the hashtag:

#LiberalTips2AvoidRape

Move on down to Dixie, where everyone, Southern Belles or Southern Gentlemen, open or concealed carries.

The young lady replied to my Tweet:

“therefore, according to your “logic”, there are no rapes down in ‘ole Dixie?”

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I, then replied:

I did not say that. However, statistics do prove that a well-placed bullet does prevent an attempted rape 10 out of 10 times.

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Here is the rest of the discussion:
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Her: “If you want to use a statistic then give me a site to back it up.”

Me: Ummm…how would a perpetrator rape someone if he was incompacitated? Duuuh. Courtesy of the Kingsjester Institute of the Obvious.

Her: “Suppose the rapist doesn’t want to wait ’til you draw your gun, aim and shoot?Or he comes from behind w/a knife to your neck?”

Me: Shoot him in the foot.

Her: “ok, but I think you’d have to walk around with your hand on your gun for that to work. Rapists are the worst kind of predators.”

Me: You can shoot through a purse or a holster. So, are you saying that you want to comply with what the Dem in CO wants you to do?

Her: “I was trying to point out that a gun won’t stop a rapist unless you walk around w/your hand on the trigger at all times.”

Me: You have no reflexes? Are you unaware of your surroundings? Are you a victim?Are you a fatalist? Would you not fight back?

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It was then that she left the conversation. Perhaps, she was one of those State Legislators in Colorado, I don’t know.
A couple of things in closing:

Where you have the most armed citizens in America, you have the lowest violent crime rate. Where you have the worst gun control, you have the highest crime rate.Ted Nugent

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And, why are they trying to take away the guns from law-abiding citizens, when it is the criminals who use their guns to kill, rape, and rob?
You know, it is almost as if those in power want the American Citizenry to be defenseless.
Until He Comes,

KJ

listens2glenn on February 20, 2013 at 2:30 PM

You know, it is almost as if those in power want the American Citizenry to be defenseless.
Until He Comes,
KJ

No almost about it. They absolutely want law-abiding citizens to be defenseless – in which case only the government and the criminals will be armed – meaning we would in fact depend on the government for our very lives.

dentarthurdent on February 20, 2013 at 2:47 PM

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