Minnesota Democrats discover their party really likes taxes

posted at 11:21 am on February 15, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Via my former radio partner Mitch Berg, the Associated Press brings us an example of willful political blindness from right here in my home state.  Patrick Condon reports on prominent businessmen who have built and/or run successful organizations, and yet never realized that their support for the DFL (Minnesota’s name for the Democratic Party) and Mark Dayton would mean –gasp — higher taxes.  Now that Dayton and the DFL-controlled state legislature has pushed through its higher-spending agenda, they want to hike taxes on those same businesses. Suddenly, the scales have begun to fall from their eyes:

Dik Bolger is a lifelong Minnesota Democrat, a gray-bearded baby boomer with a braid down his back whose Minneapolis printing company’s plant displays work by local artists and sculptors. He backed Mark Dayton for governor, but his take on the Democratic chief executive’s plan for new business taxes could be the voice-over for a Republican campaign commercial.

“We’re screwed,” Bolger said, if the tax goes through.  His 79-year-old company competes nationwide and overseas for work with major brands like Chanel. “If you’re bidding for a $100,000 job on a national basis and tax expenses push you a couple of percent higher, then I’m not competitive.”

What about people whose business is to manage money and wealth?  Shouldn’t they have been able to do the math on the DFL’s big-spending agenda?

“I’m the kind of person willing to pay more in taxes because of all the attributes and benefits Minnesota offers,” said John Taft, CEO of Minneapolis-based RBC Wealth Management. “But you do reach a tipping point where the cost of government gets too high and this would push us past that tipping point.”

Excuse me, but one can always pay higher taxes voluntarily.  What Taft means in this case is more like this: I’m the kind of person willing to force everyone else to pay more in taxes, until it hammers my own bottom line.  That’s apparently the tipping point for Taft, Bolger, and the other businessmen who supported Dayton and the DFL without reconciling the need to actually pay for all of the “attributes and benefits” that they promised.

These taxes will hammer small businesses harder than large businesses, as do most tax and regulatory policies.  Larger businesses are more self-sufficient and can avoid more business-to-business transactions, but also their economies of scale mean that they can spread the costs out more efficiently, allowing them more flexibility on prices and profit pressures.  Small businesses don’t have those advantages, and this means that these tax hikes will impact their ability to compete against larger players in their fields.

Of course, people like Taft and Bolger have options, as neighboring states have already begun to remind Minnesota business owners:

To the east, Wisconsin is like a photo negative of Minnesota politically.  On the day Dayton unveiled his tax proposal, Republican Gov. Scott Walker said he might “put a little bit more of a push” into luring Minnesota companies.  He had already put Wisconsin “Open for Business” billboards along Minnesota borders; he’s now pushing for a $340 million income tax cut.

South Dakota Gov. Dennis Daugaard‘s administration has sponsored print and radio ads and direct mail directed at unhappy executives.

“Tired of Taxes? Call Me,” read the postcards.

Bolger says he won’t move, but he won’t be able to keep his staffing at the current size, either:

But he said his Bolger Printing company had to shed more than 100 of his 320 jobs because of the recession, and “I never want to go through that again” if he starts losing jobs to lower cost competitors.

“I’m a 58-year-old Minnesota boy. Wisconsin is probably not in my future,” Bolger said. “But I would have to shrink employees, decent middle class jobs. I thought that’s what this is about.”

Not really, no, and many Minnesotans knew that before the election — obviously, not enough of them, though.  To the rest who are shocked, shocked by DFL tax hikes on businesses  and sales tax (including the clothing exemption that brings out-of-state shoppers to the Mall of America), this Captain Louis Renault award is for you.


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Government money good.
Private money bad!

LeftCoastRight on February 15, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Hilarious.

Time for Rick Perry to make an ad buy in Minnesota.

Ward Cleaver on February 15, 2013 at 11:25 AM

“I’m a 58-year-old Minnesota boy. Wisconsin is probably not in my future,”

Amazing with that attitude that he has a successful business…so he only sells to Minnesotaian’s? I would think his job is to protect the business, not be a rah-rah cheerleader for a state that is screwing him and his employees…

right2bright on February 15, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Sow the wind…

Gatsu on February 15, 2013 at 11:27 AM

“I’m the kind of person willing to pay more in taxes because of all the attributes and benefits Minnesota offers,” said John Taft,

Like what?

cajun carrot on February 15, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Things were so easy for so long for most of the boomers that they somehow think it’s always supposed to be that way.

JEM on February 15, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Stacking a sales tax onto professional services is such an obvious job killer only an idiot couldn’t see it.

Professor_Chaos on February 15, 2013 at 11:30 AM

I find it hard to believe that these people are that stupid. They probably always intended to cut employees and preferably to the point where they get a pass on Obamacare to. Then they get to blame someone else and retain or up their own standard of living.

Cindy Munford on February 15, 2013 at 11:31 AM

“I’m a 58-year-old Minnesota boy. Wisconsin is probably not in my future,” Bolger said. “But I would have to shrink employees, decent middle class jobs. I thought that’s what this is about.”

No, buddy. It’s about Democrats loving to spend your money. Welcome to reality.

Archivarix on February 15, 2013 at 11:31 AM

We tried to tell you dumbasses, we really did, but you went and voted for the Crazy Man and his slack-jawed Party.

In a related note about the state of the MN demorat party, there was a firearms-related symposium held recently which was supposed to be a “conversation” for all interested parties on gun control issues.

When two gun supporting men got up to speak about the actual effect an “assault weapon” ban would have by highlighting the Ruger 10/22 rifles, all the demorat pols got up as a group and left, they refused to listen to the other side.

This is what we’re up against, fascist thugs who would love nothing better than to have unrestricted control over your lives.

Bishop on February 15, 2013 at 11:32 AM

I’m the kind of person willing to pay more in taxes because of all the attributes and benefits Minnesota offers,” said John Taft, CEO of Minneapolis-based RBC Wealth Management. “But you do reach a tipping point where the cost of government gets too high and this would push us past that tipping point.”

translation: I’m ok with higher taxes as long as it is someoneelse paying for them. Idiots deserve what’s coming.

unseen on February 15, 2013 at 11:33 AM

I do not feel at all for these folks. Not a bit. In fact, I hope they inconvenienced in a significant way. IT WAS THEIR CHOICE.

I do feel for those that did not vote for the Gov. A lot.
IT WAS NOT THEIR CHOICE.

Jabberwock on February 15, 2013 at 11:35 AM

I’m getting more than a little tired of people who mindlessly vote Democrat and express shock when the politicians they elect do exactly what they’ve been doing for decades. If you don’t know by now that the Democrat Party is about big spending, high taxes, and burdensome regulation, then you’re an idiot.

Doughboy on February 15, 2013 at 11:36 AM

“I’m the kind of person willing to pay more in taxes because of all the attributes and benefits Minnesota offers,” said John Taft, CEO of Minneapolis-based RBC Wealth Management. “But you do reach a tipping point where the cost of government gets too high and this would push us past that tipping point.”

Translaion: I thought my lobbying group and political contributions would protect me.

JFKY on February 15, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Thanks a lot Mr. Bolger and Mr. Taft. Those of us who are stuck paying for your ignorance don’t feel sorry for you.

gophergirl on February 15, 2013 at 11:37 AM

We tried to tell you dumbasses, we really did, but you went and voted for the Crazy Man and his slack-jawed Party.

In a related note about the state of the MN demorat party, there was a firearms-related symposium held recently which was supposed to be a “conversation” for all interested parties on gun control issues.

When two gun supporting men got up to speak about the actual effect an “assault weapon” ban would have by highlighting the Ruger 10/22 rifles, all the demorat pols got up as a group and left, they refused to listen to the other side.

This is what we’re up against, fascist thugs who would love nothing better than to have unrestricted control over your lives.

Bishop on February 15, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Yep and now they whine.

gophergirl on February 15, 2013 at 11:38 AM

In a related note about the state of the MN demorat party, there was a firearms-related symposium held recently which was supposed to be a “conversation” for all interested parties on gun control issues.

When two gun supporting men got up to speak about the actual effect an “assault weapon” ban would have by highlighting the Ruger 10/22 rifles, all the demorat pols got up as a group and left, they refused to listen to the other side.

This is what we’re up against, fascist thugs who would love nothing better than to have unrestricted control over your lives.

Bishop on February 15, 2013 at 11:32 AM

I read that and nearly threw up in my mouth, I LOVE how these clowns get a “do whatever I want” pass on stunts like this. But if anyone without a (D) next to their name tried it, they would be lambasted from here to the ends of He11.

Gatsu on February 15, 2013 at 11:38 AM

“But you do reach a tipping point where the cost of government gets too high and this would push us past that tipping point.”

“Tipping point”? He thinks if he uses some Malcolm Gladwell, egghead, hoity-toity phrase like “tipping point” he’ll get through to the left-leaning crowd? How about one from hundreds of years ago — you made your bed, now you lie in it.

Paul-Cincy on February 15, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Wait till Ocare kicks in and the hike in the minimum wage. If Bolger is unhappy now, wait till Washington gets really going. Obama is still only warming up; he wants even more tax increases and regulation, to the Nth degree.

It warms my heart to hear Dem supporters lamenting the painful policies intended by the people they helped elect.

Liam on February 15, 2013 at 11:40 AM

I kinda think the Eric Stratton NSFW Award is more appropriate here, Ed.

Mr. D on February 15, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Investments made by government: Good

Investments made by businesses and individuals: Bad

Resist We Much on February 15, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Despite touting itself as a highly educated state, MN really is perpetually dumb…and liberal. I don’t have much hope anymore since the Dems will stack the deck in the next two years with all their crazy laws. I hope they really jack up taxes so the people in Edina and SW MPLS get hit hard, where I live.

BTW, the reason we’re in this situation is because the MNGOP ran literally the worst possible candidate for gov in 2010: a drunk, incompetent, unlikable lawyer.

IR-MN on February 15, 2013 at 11:45 AM

translation: I’m ok with higher taxes as long as it is someone else paying for them. Idiots deserve what’s coming.

unseen on February 15, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Translaion: I thought my lobbying group and political contributions would protect me.

JFKY on February 15, 2013 at 11:37 AM

These guys all voted for higher taxes on the assumption that only Republicans would get taxed. In third world kleptocracies, the ruling tribe typically uses its power to loot the coffers of the competing tribe. Apparently a lot of these idiots seemed to think that was how the Democrats were going to do it.

Whenever you hear Democrats talking about higher taxes are needed, they always mean “higher taxes on Republicans.”

Doomberg on February 15, 2013 at 11:47 AM

You’re never safe. The loons here in Wisconsin (not the aquatic bird WI & MN are noted for, although cranial capacity is apparently commensurate) fight the Walker agenda every inch of the way.

M240H on February 15, 2013 at 11:48 AM

I’m not feelin’ much sympathy here.

Bob's Kid on February 15, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Bish, gophergirl why are you still in that state?

chemman on February 15, 2013 at 11:49 AM

BTW, the reason we’re in this situation is because the MNGOP ran literally the worst possible candidate for gov in 2010: a drunk, incompetent, unlikable lawyer.

IR-MN on February 15, 2013 at 11:45 AM

harry reid ran for Gov of MN? Who knew?

VegasRick on February 15, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Somebody call the waaaaambulance.

Ward Cleaver on February 15, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Not the worst of it: they’re unabashed gun grabbers, going after confiscation. Or maybe they’re actually “abashed,” as they walked out of a legislative hearing yesteday rather than listen to inconvenient testimony.

rrpjr on February 15, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Dik Bolger is a lifelong Minnesota Democrat, a gray-bearded baby boomer with a braid down his back whose Minneapolis printing company’s plant displays work by local artists and sculptors. He backed Mark Dayton for governor, but his take on the Democratic chief executive’s plan for new business taxes could be the voice-over for a Republican campaign commercial.

Aging hippie is never a good look.

But I’ve got to laugh and remind Mr. Bolger and the rest of these stupid greedy people of the old saying. Socialism is great until you run out of other people’s money. It’s your turn now, Mr. Bolger and payback is sweet justice.

Happy Nomad on February 15, 2013 at 11:53 AM

When two gun supporting men got up to speak about the actual effect an “assault weapon” ban would have by highlighting the Ruger 10/22 rifles, all the demorat pols got up as a group and left, they refused to listen to the other side.

This is what we’re up against, fascist thugs who would love nothing better than to have unrestricted control over your lives.

Bishop on February 15, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Cripes! The way you are carrying on about this you’d think they took a drink of water during a speech or something horrible like that.

Lily on February 15, 2013 at 11:54 AM

Those same Democrats will pass anti-gun and outright confiscation laws as well.

That being said and reading your post, can’t feel sorry for the state.

The people of MN voted for it.

Live with it.

catmman on February 15, 2013 at 11:55 AM

And then these business owners will move to a low tax state, and then keep voting D because “they don’t mind paying more,” thus screwing up their new home.

JSchuler on February 15, 2013 at 11:55 AM

But I would have to shrink employees, decent middle class jobs. I thought that’s what this is about.”

You are a business owner, it’s not about jobs, it is about profit. Without sustained profit, you have bupkis.

WashJeff on February 15, 2013 at 11:56 AM

When two gun supporting men got up to speak about the actual effect an “assault weapon” ban would have by highlighting the Ruger 10/22 rifles, all the demorat pols got up as a group and left, they refused to listen to the other side.

This is what we’re up against, fascist thugs who would love nothing better than to have unrestricted control over your lives.

Bishop on February 15, 2013 at 11:32 AM

All 4 of my boys own one of those. Scopes dialed in and 25 round dual magazines installed.

VegasRick on February 15, 2013 at 11:57 AM

VegasRick on February 15, 2013 at 11:50 AM

If Harry Reid, Joe Biden, etc were Republican, they would’ve been voted out years ago.

IR-MN on February 15, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Where was the dumb*** last biennium when Dayton proposed spending increases along the lines of 25%, leading to a government shutdown, where so-called Republicans ended up compromising somewhere around “only” a 15% spending increase?

You built your own coffin, dumb***. I no longer feel anything for your plight.

MNHawk on February 15, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Being from South Dakota…I wish we could construct a true border between us and Minnesota. What a bunch of Loons.

trs on February 15, 2013 at 12:00 PM

This brings up an important question you should ask all of your liberal friends. They like to talk about how willing they are for “everyone” to pitch in and pay a little bit more to Uncle Sam.

Ask them how much extra they’re giving on their income taxes this year. They can write the check for however much they want, but also suggest they not take the mortgage interest and other deductions.

hawksruleva on February 15, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Meanwhile the importation of third world terrorists to appease the multiculturalists has the local high schools transformed into war zones.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2278928/Minnesota-high-school-placed-lockdown-cafeteria-food-fight-turned-huge-brawl-racial-tensions-black-Muslim-students.html

pat on February 15, 2013 at 12:01 PM

Bish, gophergirl why are you still in that state?

chemman on February 15, 2013 at 11:49 AM

I’m trying to get out – believe me.

gophergirl on February 15, 2013 at 12:03 PM

“I’m a 58-year-old Minnesota boy. Wisconsin is probably not in my future,”

I know several former Californians who said several years ago. They’ve moved themselves and their small businesses out.

They didn’t want to go at all, but if you squeeze people hard enough…

And in big business you don’t move entirely. If you are a CA, IL, or NY company you keep your HQ there because it’s tradition – you just expand in other states or move support functions to other states.

CorporatePiggy on February 15, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Stacking a sales tax onto professional services is such an obvious job killer only an idiot couldn’t see it.

Professor_Chaos on February 15, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Now that the Dems have super-majorities in the CA legislature, they will be reintroducing this proposed tax here. They are scouring the earth to find new ways to hike or create taxes and fees on individuals and businesses. Thank goodness Gov. Perry hasn’t heard – he might schedule a visit to CA to lure businesses away from the least business friendly state in the union to the most business friendly. Oh, wait…
And still they plot in Sacramento to levy higher taxes.

The Progressive mental disorder knows no geographic boundaries.

in_awe on February 15, 2013 at 12:03 PM

BTW, the reason we’re in this situation is because the MNGOP ran literally the worst possible candidate for gov in 2010: a drunk, incompetent, unlikable lawyer.

IR-MN on February 15, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Did you see some people are trying to get him to run again!

gophergirl on February 15, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Excuse me, but one can always pay higher taxes voluntarily. What Taft means in this case is more like this: I’m the kind of person willing to force everyone else to pay more in taxes, until it hammers my own bottom line.

These people are Democrats! Haven’t they been listening to their dear rat-eared leader? If you make a little more you have to pay a little more. It’s only fair. To complain about your taxes going up is nothing but whining considering the rat bastard you supported, campaigned for, and contributed money to get elected.

Happy Nomad on February 15, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Ray Bolger played the Scarecrow in “The Wizard of Oz” and was famous for singing “If I Only Had a Brain.”

Dik Bolger voted for Mark Dayton. His whining about what Dayton is doing suggests that he should be singing “If I Only Had a Brain,” too.

Mr. D on February 15, 2013 at 12:05 PM

Come on over, Ed – Wisconsin is warmer than Minnesota, and we have more lakes.

Steve Eggleston on February 15, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Ask them how much extra they’re giving on their income taxes this year. They can write the check for however much they want, but also suggest they not take the mortgage interest and other deductions.

hawksruleva on February 15, 2013 at 12:00 PM

And be sure to assure them that whatever they contribute will be immediately spent on entitlement programs and not used to pay down the debt or anything silly like that.

Happy Nomad on February 15, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Wait till Ocare kicks in and the hike in the minimum wage. If Bolger is unhappy now, wait till Washington gets really going. Obama is still only warming up; he wants even more tax increases and regulation, to the Nth degree.

It warms my heart to hear Dem supporters lamenting the painful policies intended by the people they helped elect.

Liam on February 15, 2013 at 11:40 AM

I think a lot of people are just beginning to understand. The rats are moving ahead full steam with confidence after the reelection of their messiah.

More and more dems are speaking truthfully about their belief that the government should just outright confiscate wealth for redistribution.

Jvette on February 15, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Don’t entice these people to your states…

prominent businessmen who have built and/or run successful organizations, and yet never realized that their support for the DFL (Minnesota’s name for the Democratic Party) and Mark Dayton would mean –gasp — higher taxes.

A little time in a lower tax, few regulation state will be completely lost on them and they’ll quickly start supporting tax and spend Democrats soon after they get settled in. Learning is not a strong suit for Liberals nor Democrats in general.

Ukiah on February 15, 2013 at 12:08 PM

“I’m a 58-year-old Minnesota boy. Wisconsin is probably not in my future,” Bolger said. “But I would have to shrink employees, decent middle class jobs. I thought that’s what this is about.”

What? Redistribution doesn’t create middle class jobs in the private sector? Maybe he can take comfort that he’s probably funding the creation of more bureaucratic jobs (that will continue to stifle the economy and bankrupt the state when they retire).

gwelf on February 15, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Bish, gophergirl why are you still in that state?

chemman on February 15, 2013 at 11:49 AM

The invite is also open to gophergirl. Bishop, on the other hand, will need to cough up some ammo (just kidding; he’s welcome too).

Steve Eggleston on February 15, 2013 at 12:09 PM

I used to spend a lot of time in MSP when I worked for Carlson. The interesting thing about Minnesota is that the Scandinavians are so frugal with their own money.

Ed – Were you involved in yesterday’s food fight at Minneapolis South High School?

bw222 on February 15, 2013 at 12:09 PM

gophergirl on February 15, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Honestly, who can even beat Dayton? I can’t think of really anyone. I hope to be out of the state by then for the thought of reelecting Franken and Dayton makes me sick.

IR-MN on February 15, 2013 at 12:14 PM

The Progressive mental disorder knows no geographic boundaries.

in_awe on February 15, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Sadly there is a strong disconnect from the results of the policies the men/women these idiots elect and so when they move to other states, they oftentimes set about electing the very same idiots they elected in the state they abandoned.

I have seen it first hand here in Nevada, which used to be a wonderful libertarian with a conservative lean state, and is now well on its way to becoming an annex of California.

Jvette on February 15, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Excuse me, but one can always pay higher taxes voluntarily. What Taft means in this case is more like this: I’m the kind of person willing to force everyone else to pay more in taxes, until it hammers my own bottom line.

The BEST Dead-To-Rights quote I have seen in ANY Media Outlet in FOREVER!!

I frequently ping Ed and Allahpundit for “comforting the enemy ‘ – but THIS quote is a MASTERSTROKE of Honesty and Truth!

No hiding in those words!

God Bless you, Ed!

williamg on February 15, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Being from South Dakota…I wish we could construct a true border between us and Minnesota. What a bunch of Loons.

trs on February 15, 2013 at 12:00 PM

I kind of think of East River as being sort of a demilitarized zone. The farther west you go, the more normal people get. Once you cross the river, you are pretty good to go. It should be East Dakota and West Dakota instead of North and South. They have the same problem up yonder.

Lily on February 15, 2013 at 12:18 PM

All 4 of my boys own one of those. Scopes dialed in and 25 round dual magazines installed.

VegasRick on February 15, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Probably the greatest .22 rifle ever made.

The dudes at the “conversation” actually brought two such rifles, fully cleared and allowed, to show everyone what the deal was and that’s when the ‘rats walked out.

These little thugs don’t want to listen to us and they won’t listen to us, ever. They have big big plans afoot not only here in MN but everywhere.

Bishop on February 15, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Hey, lay off Minnesota.
You know a DFL governor once labelled it the ‘Brainpower State’ for awhile. This all just proves it, doesn’t it ?

mdavt on February 15, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Dik Bolger is a lifelong Minnesota Democrat,…

should read

Dik Bolger is a lifelong Minnesota Dumbass,…

patch on February 15, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Bish, gophergirl why are you still in that state?

chemman on February 15, 2013 at 11:49 AM

I don’t know; born and raised, sportsman’s playground, my house sits on a lake and I have 20,000 other such lakes to choose from for fishing or whatever.

Sure I could move to…*skin crawls*…Wisconsin but they could just as easily regress and bring back the liberal turds they had until only recently. The Dakotas are ok but my wife’s career would disappear there. Texas, well, they have spiders that drag people away in the night.

Bishop on February 15, 2013 at 12:24 PM

These little thugs don’t want to listen to us and they won’t listen to us, ever. They have big big plans afoot not only here in MN but everywhere.

Bishop on February 15, 2013 at 12:19 PM

“Come and get it.” My response to all of the gun grabbers.

VegasRick on February 15, 2013 at 12:28 PM

I find it hard to believe that these people are that stupid.

Cindy Munford on February 15, 2013 at 11:31 AM

They are that stupid. I’ve lived here going on 15 years. They are that stupid.

AScott on February 15, 2013 at 12:29 PM

And then these business owners will move to a low tax state, and then keep voting D because “they don’t mind paying more,” thus screwing up their new home.

JSchuler on February 15, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Sad but true. It’s happening here in NC already.

HotAirian on February 15, 2013 at 12:30 PM

I have seen it first hand here in Nevada, which used to be a wonderful libertarian with a conservative lean state, and is now well on its way to becoming an annex of California.

Jvette on February 15, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Yep. I’ve been here almost 35 years and have watched us go from fiercely independent to quasi kalifornia.

VegasRick on February 15, 2013 at 12:31 PM

…Whenever you hear Democrats talking about higher taxes are needed, they always mean “higher taxes on Republicans.”

Doomberg on February 15, 2013 at 11:47 AM

You’re giving them too much credit. They don’t think, they feel. Thinking is for their masters in DC.

Fenris on February 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM

These taxes will hammer small businesses harder than large businesses, as do most tax and regulatory policies.

It’s almost as if Democrat policies are intended to drive small businesses OUT of business, and take over the big businesses (a la GM)…

National Socialism…

ITguy on February 15, 2013 at 12:34 PM

Useful idiots.

MPan on February 15, 2013 at 12:36 PM

“Come and get it.” My response to all of the gun grabbers.

VegasRick on February 15, 2013 at 12:28 PM

A certain MN state rep who shall remain nameless even if his name is MICHAEL PAYMAR (D-64B) has a bill that would mandate all mags need to be 7 rounds or less, and all existing high-cap mags would need to be either removed from the state or given over to the government for destruction.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

We do crazy in a very special way here.

Bishop on February 15, 2013 at 12:39 PM

What’s for breakfast? PAIN!
Love it.

Mr. Arrogant on February 15, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Obviously being out in the real world, being an entrepeneur, owning your own business is not the cure for liberalism it is too often claimed to be.

If facing, or being overwhelmed by, economic, fiscal, and (confiscatory) tax reality were a cure for liberalism, there would be no Democrats in office anywhere.

Taft is just a microcosm of e.g., Silicon Valley and Redmond, WA. EM’s gloss on Taft is exactly right, and it points to a larger problem, also evidenced by Bolger — too often their business insulates them: ideology trumps reality. Bolger doesn’t say he’s going to work against a higher tax agenda, think about supporting Republicans…no; his solution is to lay off more workers.

EastofEden on February 15, 2013 at 12:53 PM

We do crazy in a very special way here.

Bishop on February 15, 2013 at 12:39 PM

That’s funny.

VegasRick on February 15, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Sadly, I don’t feel bad for these fools.

I’m such a bastard.

trigon on February 15, 2013 at 12:57 PM

I don’t know; born and raised, sportsman’s playground, my house sits on a lake and I have 20,000 other such lakes to choose from for fishing or whatever.

Oklahoma has more miles of shoreline than any other state in the Union.

Tenwheeler on February 15, 2013 at 1:11 PM

As one smart pundit said, this is the DFL plan for a better Wisconsin.

As a Wisconsin boy, I would like to thank Governor Dayton.

Sinner on February 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Left MN for TX in 1998 and while I can’t say I’ve never looked back – I do still miss the state and enjoy visiting family and friends there – it’s very hard to envision returning permanently. Would definitely buy a vacation home there if I hit the lottery, though.

Missy on February 15, 2013 at 1:50 PM

Living in Wisconsin, this sh*t seriously makes me laugh.

Reap what you sow d-bags. Reap what you sow.

Polish Rifle on February 15, 2013 at 2:04 PM

I would think his job is to protect the business, not be a rah-rah cheerleader for a state that is screwing him and his employees…
right2bright on February 15, 2013 at 11:27 AM

To quote Rush Limbaugh, “liberals are liberals first and EVERYTHING else second” It like asking a Christian if being Christian is more important than his business. You wouldn’t ask “Are they a businessman first?”(Not that I agree with this nonsense but we are battling a religion on the left)

Conan on February 15, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Are these morons great examples of Minnesota Nice or what?

Drained Brain on February 15, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Sure I could move to…*skin crawls*…Wisconsin but they could just as easily regress and bring back the liberal turds they had until only recently. The Dakotas are ok but my wife’s career would disappear there. Texas, well, they have spiders that drag people away in the night.

Bishop on February 15, 2013 at 12:24 PM

You’d get over it. I moved to *skin crawls* Wisconsin about 14 years ago from outside of Chicago. As much as I’d like to beat the average Packer fan into a fine paste, the state is not so bad. It took some time, but the outdoors aspect made it manageable.

Regarding regressing back into the Progressive breeding ground we were before Walker? Yes, that scares me too. With Obama at the helm, all bets are off for all of us regrettably.

Polish Rifle on February 15, 2013 at 2:11 PM

And then these business owners will move to a low tax state, and then keep voting D because “they don’t mind paying more,” thus screwing up their new home.

JSchuler on February 15, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Sad but true. It’s happening here in NC already.

HotAirian on February 15, 2013 at 12:30 PM

It’s like what I read once about entropy: Some people think that if they’re in the woods and it starts raining, they can stand under one tree until that tree soaks through, and then they can find another tree to stand under that’s still dry. Eventually there’s no dry trees to stand under anymore, and they don’t understand why.
I can’t stand (or understand) that lack of understanding :)

Marcola on February 15, 2013 at 2:17 PM

I am playing the world’s smallest violin for these guys…

ptcamn on February 15, 2013 at 2:21 PM

It’s like what I read once about entropy: Some people think that if they’re in the woods and it starts raining, they can stand under one tree until that tree soaks through, and then they can find another tree to stand under that’s still dry. Eventually there’s no dry trees to stand under anymore, and they don’t understand why.
I can’t stand (or understand) that lack of understanding :)

Marcola on February 15, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Eventually, when all the trees are dry, they have less reason to see the fallacy of their actions and blame it on a “general issue” which requires a one-size-fits-all solution. In other words, their own actions bring about the results that they thought they were preventing.

ptcamn on February 15, 2013 at 2:24 PM

We conservatives are fighting the battle (probably losing) against socialism here in MN. Send reinforcements! I’m not leaving. I’ll fight socialism and progressivism until the day I die.

Othniel on February 15, 2013 at 2:47 PM

Idiots. Let them all go bankrupt. If I know a business owner or corporation supports Dems. I don’t do business with them. I avoid going to Blue states because I don’t want to spend one penny in the sorry states. I do not eat at Mexcan resturants operated by Hispanics because I know they support and vote for Dems. The few who don’t, too bad. As conservatives we need to starve the beast. Why should we support them (dems.) with our money.

they lie on February 15, 2013 at 2:57 PM

“I’m the kind of person willing to pay more in taxes because of all the attributes and benefits Minnesota offers,” said John Taft, CEO of Minneapolis-based RBC Wealth Management. “But you do reach a tipping point where the cost of government gets too high and this would push us past that tipping point.”

If I were a conservative client of this clown’s, and this were the first I had heard of his views, I’d be calling him the next day with the wire transfer instructions to my new investment advisor.

BuckeyeSam on February 15, 2013 at 3:03 PM

That being said and reading your post, can’t feel sorry for the state.

The people of MN voted for it.

Live with it.

catmman on February 15, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Or try to move to a Red State. I kinda hope enough people and businesses in the Blue States get fed up with their bullcrap taxes and policies and have the means to move to a Red State, bankrupting those Blue States in the process.

Why in the hell does anyone stay in California, for example?!

cmsciulli on February 15, 2013 at 3:06 PM

We used to pay 4% Sales tax in Minnesota and now pay 7.125% or more. I don’t see a better Minnesota than the one I grew up in. Where does the money go? Nowhere a law-abiding, non-problematic person like me can see. It’s the same other places and some of the Blue States worse. One thing Ed doesn’t point out is that it has been 20 years since we had a Democrat Governor. What these moronic business don’t understand is that they don’t remember or actually have never seen liberalism even in a blue state of the kind that they WILL see in OBAMALAND with OBAMACLONES in charge of everything in MN.

Let me tell you a story about Governor Goofy. I have a close relative who was in charge of the security at the Governor’s Mansion (State Patrol) One night right after he was inaugurated he comes down to the main lobby with NO UNDERWEAR on. A trooper walks up to him with his stuff hanging out and he just says “How you doing?” and goes to the kitchen. There you go. That’s who is in charge!

Conan on February 15, 2013 at 3:34 PM

minneeesota sux your roads are sh&(
You tax worse than Norway
U reap what u sow

losarkos on February 15, 2013 at 3:35 PM

losarkos on February 15, 2013 at 3:35 PM

I have sympathy for people in other blue states because moving isn’t always easy if you are tied to the state by birth. I sure as heck didn’t vote for this but you have a point. Once my Father dies I have only my self to blame for staying here. I am eyeing Texas.

Conan on February 15, 2013 at 3:40 PM

You’d get over it. I moved to *skin crawls* Wisconsin about 14 years ago from outside of Chicago. As much as I’d like to beat the average Packer fan into a fine paste, the state is not so bad. It took some time, but the outdoors aspect made it manageable.

Regarding regressing back into the Progressive breeding ground we were before Walker? Yes, that scares me too. With Obama at the helm, all bets are off for all of us regrettably.

Polish Rifle on February 15, 2013 at 2:11 PM

I don’t know; born and raised, sportsman’s playground, my house sits on a lake and I have 20,000 other such lakes to choose from for fishing or whatever.

Sure I could move to…*skin crawls*…Wisconsin but they could just as easily regress and bring back the liberal turds they had until only recently. The Dakotas are ok but my wife’s career would disappear there. Texas, well, they have spiders that drag people away in the night.

Bishop on February 15, 2013 at 12:24 PM

I’m trying to get out – believe me.

gophergirl on February 15, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Wisconsin – You’re among friends!

Escape to Wisconsin! (Two of the old tourism mottos)

Now that I have season tickets, I can even take you to a few Packers games… Show you Paul Bunyan’s Axe… Go to Summerfest… Largest Bratwurst cookout in the nation…

We have lefsa and Lutefisk too!!!

Green_Bay_Packers on February 15, 2013 at 3:45 PM

…I thought lobotomy operations were rare?

KOOLAID2 on February 15, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Suck it, hippy.

This reminds me of a local radio station talk show earlier this week. The local caller Democrat lady was complaining that a large electric company was proposing to put a line through her property, and on up to Indiana. She was complaining about the eminent domain that they will have the power to use (that I don’t agree with either)

But most of the callers were calling her a hypocrite, because she lobbied in Topeka for the Wind Energy boondoggle, and is all for clean energy, gosh darn it! Except when the lines have to go through here land, apparently. She can suck it too.

cptacek on February 15, 2013 at 4:35 PM

The irony here is that if these doofuses do move to WI or any other state on the way to recovery, they will immediately through the weight of their money and influence behind the local Dems, expecting a different result.

Hucklebuck on February 15, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Mark my words. As soon as WI has been back on its feet for a period of time, they will vote the Dems right back in. After all, once there is a surplus spending must go up, right? Anyone who thinks otherwise is not being fair.

Hucklebuck on February 15, 2013 at 4:55 PM

IR-MN on February 15, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Hard to get that many redunancies into a single sentence.

In the meantime, your neighbor to the east is trying to fix things…good luck to you gophers!

teejk on February 15, 2013 at 4:56 PM

The irony here is that if these doofuses do move to WI or any other state on the way to recovery, they will immediately through throw the weight of their money and influence behind the local Dems, expecting a different trying to replicate the same result.

Hucklebuck on February 15, 2013 at 4:49 PM

ReWrite™ engaged. The Left are locusts.

Steve Eggleston on February 15, 2013 at 5:26 PM

“If you’re bidding for a $100,000 job on a national an international basis and tax expenses push you a couple of percent higher, then I’m not competitive.”

This guy’s take on things scales nicely.

unclesmrgol on February 15, 2013 at 5:37 PM

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