Harry Reid: We don’t have the votes to break a GOP filibuster on Hagel; Update: Senate to vote on Hagel today

posted at 2:41 pm on February 14, 2013 by Allahpundit

Don’t get too excited. As I’m writing this, CNN is interrupting its round-the-clock coverage of Marco Rubio drinking water to report a sellout compromise in the offing:

In the meantime, with a cloture set for tomorrow morning, Reid can’t get to 60 and he’s grumpy about it:

“My Republican colleagues had led us to believe they would not filibuster Senator Chuck Hagel’s confirmation as Secretary of Defense,” Reid (D-NV) said in a statement released by his office. “But that has changed. Now, Senate Republicans have made it clear they intend to mount a full-scale filibuster, and block the Senate from holding a final passage vote on Senator Hagel’s nomination. Make no mistake: Republicans are trying to defeat Senator Hagel’s nomination by filibustering while submitting extraneous requests that will never be satisfied.”

Said Reid, “We do not have, at 12 o’clock today, a secretary of Defense.” Which is amusing, because if this guy gets confirmed, we won’t have one then either.

The Journal headlines its piece on this, “Hagel nomination again in jeopardy.” If only that were true. If Reid is short of 60, he’s barely short: He’s got 55 Democrats plus Thad Cochran, Susan Collins, and Mike Johanns. And there’s plenty of reason to think he’ll get at least two more. As Byron York, Philip Klein, and Dave Weigel explain, there’s nothing resembling a unified GOP caucus on this. There’s one group, led by Ted Cruz, that’s prepared to torpedo Hagel, but the rest of the caucus is split among people like McCain and Roy Blunt who don’t necessarily want to block him but want more info on Benghazi or on Hagel’s foreign sources of income before voting for cloture. It’s impossible to believe that Reid won’t ultimately get a couple of votes from that group especially once the media starts hammering the “obstructionist Republicans” message, never mind the fact that Democrats happily filibustered John Bolton in 2005. Unnamed Republican senators are telling Fox News flat out that Hagel will eventually be confirmed, just not tomorrow. So, yay for taking a stand.

Serious question: If Hagel doesn’t deserve to be blocked, who does? His opponents have seized on his anti-Israel rhetoric, more of which emerges every week, but as contemptible as it is, I don’t think that’s reason to filibuster. Democrats are right when they say that the president deserves wide latitude in choosing his cabinet; if The One wants to bear the political consequences of appointing a guy known for babbling about the “Jewish lobby,” that’s on him. The reason to block Hagel is that he’s manifestly unprepared for the job and isn’t all that shy about admitting it. When concerns about a nominee shift from political disagreement to questions about his basic competence then the “advise and consent” role should require stopping the nomination even with a filibuster. At that point it’s no longer a dispute over foreign policy, it’s about protecting the military from mismanagement. Typically you don’t worry about a president putting the Senate in a position like that but Obama wants his Republican rubber-stamp nominee so he’s willing to skimp on qualifications. He deserves to have a pick this cynical blocked.

Update: Dan Foster’s right. If a cave is inevitable here, let’s get on with it:

Okay, so what are you going to learn about Hagel in the next ten days? Is there some bombshell you’ve got ready but you need a little more time to cross the t’s and dot the i’s? Are you using this holdup as leverage to get something else you want? Do you think peeling ten days off the calendar is going to prevent Harry Reid from bringing some odious measure to the floor? Is Lindsey Graham suddenly going to get those elusive “answers” on Benghazi? If the answer to all of these questions is “no,” just what the hell is the point of waiting to confirm Hagel?

Update: Here we go.

Either he finally, and quietly, got those final two GOP votes he needs or he’s pushing this now to dare Republicans to follow through on their filibuster promise and risk a week of “UNPRECEDENTED OBSTRUCTION!” headlines.


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Republicans must hang tough and not break the filibuster . . . this guy is a disaster.

rplat on February 14, 2013 at 2:48 PM

OH dear dingy ding dong harry is upset is he? Well dingy, how about doing YOUR job, you know a budget brought up and passed you haven’t done in four years?
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letget on February 14, 2013 at 2:50 PM

The GOP is a SCOAMF

SirGawain on February 14, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Why this is even being discussed or a possibility within the GOP (Hagel’s confirmation) only shows how totally useless the GOP has become.

Hagel’s just a useful idiot to provide cover for the administration.

kim roy on February 14, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Why not filibuster Hagel? When the inevitable “obstructionist Republicans” narrative is trumped up, wear it with a badge of honor. Dare the Dems to defend a SecDef pick as pathetic as this.

Doughboy on February 14, 2013 at 2:53 PM

“Yet” is the key word.

Always count on the Rs to be the biggest dummies, and the ones to scroom you, royally.

OT, but very worrysome

Schadenfreude on February 14, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Well dingy, how about doing YOUR job, you know a budget brought up and passed you haven’t done in four years?

Well, in his mind, not producing a budget has been his job for the past four years. Evidently a majority of the Senate agrees. Not that many of them actually do THEIR jobs, in respect to the expected requirements, anyway.

hawkeye54 on February 14, 2013 at 2:55 PM

McCain sill thiks he’s running for Prez. He’s behind this 51 nonsense. Every time the Libs need a stooge, they go to the traitor McCain.

rik on February 14, 2013 at 2:56 PM

Maybe Reid isn’t so eager to stop the Repubs side show quite yet?
Give them the stage they want for a little while…

verbaluce on February 14, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Maybe Reid isn’t so eager to stop the Repubs side show quite yet?
Give them the stage they want for a little while…

verbaluce on February 14, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Hagel is an awful choice to protect our country and I have yet to hear you deny that.

Chuck Schick on February 14, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Facts and History do count up.

John Mcain has a history.

John Kerry has a history.

Chuck Hagle has history..

The RINO’s have a History.

McCain is the long term leader of RINO’s in the U.S. Senate.

This vote is a marriage made in RINO hell.

Just say I Do and get it over with.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 14, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Why this is even being discussed or a possibility within the GOP (Hagel’s confirmation) only shows how totally useless the GOP has become.

Hagel’s just a useful idiot to provide cover for the administration.

kim roy on February 14, 2013 at 2:53 PM

It’s annoying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN5PoW7_kdA

Mr. Arrogant on February 14, 2013 at 3:01 PM

The marriage only OK’s incest, not a good thing some say.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 14, 2013 at 3:02 PM

That Obama supports this weasel should tell you all about Obama.

Schadenfreude on February 14, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Yeah,verbaldouche.
.
Preventing a befuddled, rock stupid ,Israelphobe from becoming SOD is a “sideshow”.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on February 14, 2013 at 3:02 PM

I sure pray the Friday dump isn’t that the r’s caved and voted for hagel?

For once r’s stand up FOR something!
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letget on February 14, 2013 at 3:03 PM

Ed this where you lose me: Obama is fine picking his cabinet for purely political reasons. Senators can’t weigh that selection on any political reasons.

You’d make a fine Arizona or New England senator.

DanMan on February 14, 2013 at 3:03 PM

Hagel is even worse than John Kerry if that is possible. The only reason Hagel’s record is worse is because Kerry counterfeited his and everything he has done has been a lie. Kerry is perfect for the state of Massachusetts. After having a alcoholic pedophile like Ted Kennedy for decades, he fits the bill perfectly.

volsense on February 14, 2013 at 3:03 PM

Maybe Reid isn’t so eager to stop the Repubs side show quite yet?
Give them the stage they want for a little while…

verbaluce on February 14, 2013 at 2:57 PM

So, do you think Hagel is the best choice for Sec of Defense?

If so, why?

HumpBot Salvation on February 14, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Frankly, if it looks like Chuckles is going to get confirmed by a hair, Republicans should just back off and save their ammo.

I’ll bet there’s a bunch of Democrats right now that are hoping Republicans will save their bacon by blocking Hagel. Oh, they’ll sqwack, but they’ll be secretly relieved.

If Hagel is confirmed by only 51, then those 51 will bear the whole burden of what comes after — and it won’t be pretty for them. Plus, our defense department is already screwed, given the Commando in Chief is Bronco Bama.

starboardhelm on February 14, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Just heard on radio that vote may be pulled into this evening. Even if Reid does not have the votes. Huh ?

Jabberwock on February 14, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Maybe Reid isn’t so eager to stop the Repubs side show quite yet?
Give them the stage they want for a little while…

verbaluce on February 14, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Sure, verbaldiarrhea, give the public time to focus on Hagel’s utter lack of qualifications for the job. Brilliant.

Basilsbest on February 14, 2013 at 3:08 PM

Get approval for the XL in exchange for getting these two doofusses approved. That way the Rs won’t have to cave on a carbon tax and we’d only have to survive 4 years or so of lousy governing. Taxes are never removed so if we an get the pipeline done without adding one, we’re all better off.

Kissmygrits on February 14, 2013 at 3:10 PM

Compromise equals cave

cmsinaz on February 14, 2013 at 3:10 PM

@DanaBashCNN: Compromise talks didnt go anywhere re Hagel. Im told vote to end filibuster is likely today and its all but certain to fail

What I don’t understand, if conventional wisdom and vote counting is true, is why the effort to compromise with McConnell? Even if a squish, he doesn’t need to please the GOP as a whole. He just needs to win over two of Murkowski, Kirk, McCain – and not even for confirmation, but just to pull that stunt of voting to end the filibuster, but then voting no on the confirmation itself.

Gingotts on February 14, 2013 at 3:11 PM

It is pulled down while the two party evil money cult swaps spit and ear marks.

Back Alley Mangey Whore Dogs all of them

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 14, 2013 at 3:12 PM

Maybe Reid isn’t so eager to stop the Repubs side show quite yet?
Give them the stage they want for a little while…

verbaluce on February 14, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Yup. Seems to be a tape from 2007 bubbling up.
Something about State being owned by Israel.

Jabberwock on February 14, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Just wondering: when was the last time Dana Bash was the first to get a story from Capitol Hill that turned out to be true?

Hey, I’m just asking questions . . .

Of course, the downside of filibustering Hagel is that a whole new gaggle of whiny “true conservatives” are threatening to “leave the GOP” if he is confirmed with any Republicans voting for cloture. That would rid us of a whole bunch of worthless detritus at once.

Unfortunately, knowing how spineless the Purity Police really are when it comes down to it, this threat to leave the Party forever is probably as empty as their last several hundred threats.

Bottom line: whoever is SecDef won’t matter much in the end, it is still Obama’s policies of weakness and appeasement that will be in place and in force.

Adjoran on February 14, 2013 at 3:13 PM

verbaluce on February 14, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Verb would be estatic if the DEFSEC had been released off of death row for killing his grandmother as long as he was a Dem and it was a political victory for Obama.

docflash on February 14, 2013 at 3:14 PM

Can anyone tell me what this noise means?

SQUISH!!!!!!

D-fusit on February 14, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Did I say this here already? I figured I’d have some fun and emailed Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell urging them to vote to confirm Hagel — as they will anyway — saying, approximately:

“I know that Hagel is Obama’s best choice, given that Hagel’s positions on Israel and a nuclear Iran are identical to Obama’s, and surely to your own as well. Plus I doubt Hagel can beat Obama at golf. Please vote to confirm Chuckles, because I really really want you Democrats to stick this stinky piece of dog doo-doo to Bronco Bama’s shoe.”

starboardhelm on February 14, 2013 at 3:17 PM

But Hagel is so intelligent and he’s been so honest and forthcoming with his disclosures…

d1carter on February 14, 2013 at 3:18 PM

OT Breaking: Lautenberg looks at wall. Reads writing.

Gingotts on February 14, 2013 at 3:20 PM

There is plenty of good reason for the GOP to filibuster and drag this out.

1. Payback for Bolton

2. It is 20 months before the next election. Who cares what names the MSM calls the GOP.

3. Delay can open up other Hagel negatives.

4. When seen in rear view mirror, had the House GOP played the abortion card better in 2009, Obamacare might never have been enacted. Who could have foreseen Scott Brown’s election?

matthew8787 on February 14, 2013 at 3:24 PM

What I don’t understand, if conventional wisdom and vote counting is true, is why the effort to compromise with McConnell? Even if a squish, he doesn’t need to please the GOP as a whole. He just needs to win over two of Murkowski, Kirk, McCain – and not even for confirmation, but just to pull that stunt of voting to end the filibuster, but then voting no on the confirmation itself.

Gingotts on February 14, 2013 at 3:11 PM

Heh. Dingy Harry isn’t trying that, because he secretly wants the filibuster to succeed. He’s not dumb. This nomination is a slow-train-wreck disaster for Dems. And if McConnell is smart, he’s dangling the ‘compromise’ as a way to get Dems to panic and break ranks.

starboardhelm on February 14, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Has Hagel come clean yet about whether he’s ever taken a sip of water during a speech? I hear that can be career ending.

starboardhelm on February 14, 2013 at 3:26 PM

I wouldn’t be stunned if this is a play by Reid to get Hagel defeated. That way the Dems can howl obstructionist for the rest of the session and Obama gets a mulligan on SecDef.

LukeinNE on February 14, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Heh. Dingy Harry isn’t trying that, because he secretly wants the filibuster to succeed. He’s not dumb. This nomination is a slow-train-wreck disaster for Dems. And if McConnell is smart, he’s dangling the ‘compromise’ as a way to get Dems to panic and break ranks.

starboardhelm on February 14, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Though the failed cloture gets Dingy a fair portion of train-wreck disaster along with the ability to cry obstructionist. Hagel is now an even more exposed obvious disaster and misstep for Barky.

I suppose I get it… fast train wreck quicker than a slow lingering train wreck, even if both require plenty of quick work and squirrel pointing by the Goebbels media.

Gingotts on February 14, 2013 at 3:30 PM

but the rest of the caucus is split among people like McCain and Roy Blunt who don’t necessarily want to block him but want more info on Benghazi or on Hagel’s foreign sources of income before voting for cloture

Gee to think they are being ‘threatened’ with a 60 vote threshold

Funny, thought McCain was working with the DEMs to get rid of certain rules, filibuster et al, for the purpose of running amnesty through, faster

Of course, that could not happen until the SOU speeches.
To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven (ECC 3:1)

On this one. Benghazi is just smoke screen. Credibility was lost in the hearings.

It doesn’t matter if Hagel gets in or not. Whomever Obama gets into the position, will continue the Obama legacy. Hagel is a useful stooge to please his leftist allies. The long stupid fight over this idiot – and he is an overt idiot – is intentional. It diverts from the real businesses being conducted under the table.

The big deal being conducted under the cloth is the amnesty/gun switcheroo. I give you an A and you discard a G. We pretend to fight and by gum the rules change, and if we time it right, A will happen before the next election, which you think will help your side, but I know will stoke my side. We both need G for the election, but after the election, the one who wins will control the G.

Except for some of the Tea Party stalwarts, watching this charade is like watching wart hogs fight over a dead chicken

entagor on February 14, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Whats wrong with obstructionist ?

Here’s William F. Buckley in the founding statement of National Review

Let’s Face it: Unlike Vienna, it seems altogether possible that did National Review not exist, no one would have invented it. The launching of a conservative weekly journal of opinion in a country widely assumed to be a bastion of conservatism at first glance looks like a work of supererogation, rather like publishing a royalist weekly within the walls of Buckingham Palace. It is not that of course; if National Review is superfluous, it is so for very different reasons: It stands athwart history, yelling Stop, at a time when no other is inclined to do so, or to have much patience with those who so urge it

We could use some conservatives like that again.

sauldalinsky on February 14, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Either he finally, and quietly, got those final two GOP votes he needs or he’s pushing this now to dare Republicans to follow through on their filibuster promise and risk a week of “UNPRECEDENTED OBSTRUCTION!” headlines.

Why the latter? The news cycle is lost due to V Day and the traditional Friday news dump day anyway. The meme will be lost before the weekend and forgotten by Monday.

blammm on February 14, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Filibuster well-qualified Bolton=AWESOME…

Filibuster disaster Hagel=AWFUL…

///////////////
Lib logic.

hillsoftx on February 14, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Likely they found two more fools in the R corner. It’s so easy.

Schadenfreude on February 14, 2013 at 3:36 PM

There are NO bigger traitors to the land than Obama and the Rs in DC.

Schadenfreude on February 14, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Either he finally, and quietly, got those final two GOP votes he needs or he’s pushing this now to dare Republicans to follow through on their filibuster promise and risk a week of “UNPRECEDENTED OBSTRUCTION!” headlines.

Recess appointment over the President’s Day holiday.

sentinelrules on February 14, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Either he finally, and quietly, got those final two GOP votes he needs or he’s pushing this now to dare Republicans to follow through on their filibuster promise and risk a week of “UNPRECEDENTED OBSTRUCTION!” headlines.

So, filibuster Hagel already!!! If Hagel is horribly incompetent, and entrusting the entire American military to his direction would be dangerous to national security and our troops, it is the duty of any Senator who opposes him to filibuster!

Besides, even if the filibuster makes headlines, the media will have to ask filibustering Senators why, and the Senators will have the chance to explain to the lamestream media and low-information voters that Hagel would abandon our allies and embolden our enemies, and make an eventual war more likely.

Steve Z on February 14, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Typically you don’t worry about a president putting the Senate in a position like that but Obama wants his Republican rubber-stamp nominee so he’s willing to skimp on qualifications. He deserves to have a pick this cynical blocked.

Again, I think it’s stupid to block Hagel. The guy voted to ban abortion in cases of rape and incest, thereby allowing you to ensure that a solid, pro-life position takes hold within the mainstream, because as you can say in your talking points, “Even Obama’s own Secretary of Defense took these positions. And if Obama picked him to be Secretary of Defense, then surely being pro-life isn’t just some fringe position.”

In addition to angering abortionists, he also has comments that speak poorly of gays and the Jewish lobby. Given that all 3 of these groups are typically left-wing interest groups, I don’t see a problem with gravely irritating them, and it also further helps ensure the continued resistance to gay marriage.

Furthermore, there’s the benefit that every time Hagel says something stupid or doesn’t know the answer to something, you get to point out that it’s a reflection of the intelligence of the guy who picked him: Obama. And that further erodes Obama’s political capital and the standing of the Democratic party.

And finally, if you do block Hagel, then the next in line is Michelle Flournoy, a past contributor to the Democratic party as well as the first potential female Secretary of Defense. I can see the byline now: “Republicans believe in a war on women. Democrats believe in women at war! GO WIMMINZ!”

We should openly welcome a Hagel confirmation.

Stoic Patriot on February 14, 2013 at 3:47 PM

The Senate “elites” are discussing the nomination on Cspan 2. All the Ds seem to be fixated on is that he enlisted in the service and got wounded and saved his brother. Not one of the Ds seem to find any problem with Hagel’s viewpoints now or his horrific showing at the hearing.

This is just as frustrating to watch/listen to as was the House debate on the ruling for stopping pay increases for government employees.

It is my firm conclusion that this country is in a world of hurt! Until these people are forced to face the consequences of their actions…this mess will continue.

Even in leaving Leon Panetta spoke up about how dysfunctional Congress is these days.

CoffeeLover on February 14, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Do Republicans have anything to offer other than ‘No’? Thought not…

lostmotherland on February 14, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Either he finally, and quietly, got those final two GOP votes he needs or he’s pushing this now to dare Republicans to follow through on their filibuster promise and risk a week of “UNPRECEDENTED OBSTRUCTION!” headlines.

Because God knows we don’t want “UNPRECEDENTED OBSTRUCTION” in the headlines when it could be something so much nicer, like “FOOL DRINKS WATER” or “BUSH STILL EVIL.”

The media is going to be a slanted leftist disaster whatever we do, so why not fight?

Gingotts on February 14, 2013 at 3:49 PM

Do Republicans have anything to offer other than ‘No’? Thought not…

lostmotherland on February 14, 2013 at 3:48 PM

What are we supposed to offer here, our own Secretary of Defense?

Fine, go with Allen West. I’m sure Barky will race to withdraw Hagel on our advice.

Gingotts on February 14, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Do Republicans have anything to offer other than ‘No’? Thought not…

lostmotherland on February 14, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Sure. “Hell, no.”

Chuck Schick on February 14, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Do Republicans have anything to offer other than ‘No’? Thought not…

lostmotherland on February 14, 2013 at 3:48 PM

well lightweight when there’s only two choices they might as well make the right one

DanMan on February 14, 2013 at 3:52 PM

Do Republicans have anything to offer other than ‘No’? Thought not…

lostmotherland on February 14, 2013 at 3:48 PM

How’s that budget coming ? No, you say. K

Jabberwock on February 14, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Do Republicans have anything to offer other than ‘No’? Thought not…

lostmotherland on February 14, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Yes, they offer to leave us the hell alone.

I might ask, do democrats offer anything besides other people’s money? If the democrats didn’t raise taxes and give it to their voters there’d be nothing for people to vote for.

Democrat platform: Raise taxes, give it to democrat voters and crony friends

darwin on February 14, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Has Hagel come forth with the financial records on foreign money?

Zaggs on February 14, 2013 at 3:54 PM

UNPRECEDENTED OBSTRUCTION!” headlines.

if it’s not this, it’ll be something else…

lsm will do everything in their power to demonize the gop…and the low information voter laps it up

cmsinaz on February 14, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Do Republicans have anything to offer other than ‘No’? Thought not…

lostmotherland on February 14, 2013 at 3:48 PM

So, do you think Hagel is the best choice for Sec of Def?

If so, why?

HumpBot Salvation on February 14, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Has Hagel come forth with the financial records on foreign money?

Zaggs on February 14, 2013 at 3:54 PM

No. From a Republican. Of course.

Jabberwock on February 14, 2013 at 3:56 PM

McCain ‘largely satisfied’ on Hagel

via politico

there is your 60th vote my friends…

cmsinaz on February 14, 2013 at 3:58 PM

********************C-SPAN***********************************

On Now….LIVE:

LIVE on C-SPAN2: Senate Session

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN2/

canopfor on February 14, 2013 at 4:01 PM

If Republicans screw this up, I’ll vote for Hillary myself.

HopeHeFails on February 14, 2013 at 4:03 PM

McCain ‘largely satisfied’ on Hagel
via politico

there is your 60th vote my friends…

cmsinaz on February 14, 2013 at 3:58 PM

Just heard he’d not vote for cloture until after recess. Not now.

Jabberwock on February 14, 2013 at 4:03 PM

McCain ‘largely satisfied’ on Hagel

via politico

there is your 60th vote my friends…

cmsinaz on February 14, 2013 at 3:58 PM

I am ashamed I voted for that guy, except the alternative was Obama. Sigh.

txmomof6 on February 14, 2013 at 4:04 PM

McCain ‘largely satisfied’ on Hagel

via politico

there is your 60th vote my friends…

cmsinaz on February 14, 2013 at 3:58 PM

McCain Largely Satisfied: 12:54 PM
Reid Doesn’t Have Votes: 3:32 PM

blammm on February 14, 2013 at 4:11 PM

I had a feeling, if true, that mccain would vote for hagel. They are friends and it seems friends trump our nation in dc for who you vote for? Gads, I hate rino’s as much as d’s and I MEAN it!
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letget on February 14, 2013 at 4:11 PM

Republicans will do what
Republicans always do: CAVE

This is teh way they opperate. And these are the people Carl Rove wants to elect to congress. No way should a principled politician act on his/her (PC right?) principles.

WE MUST MAKE SURE WE LIVE TO FIGHT ANOTHER FIGHT.
Code for we are more concerned about saving our own asses then doing the righ thing.

Sad Sad Sad

I’m a Tea Partier Floridian who supported Marco Rubio in State Politics, Now I say even Marco is too close to the RINO’s and we should gather around Rand Paul for President in 2016.

SayNo2-O on February 14, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Results for #hagel

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23hagel

canopfor on February 14, 2013 at 4:14 PM

McCain ‘largely satisfied’ on Hagel

via politico

there is your 60th vote my friends…

cmsinaz on February 14, 2013 at 3:58 PM

cmsinaz:Ugh,thanks for the heads-up CMS:)

canopfor on February 14, 2013 at 4:16 PM

This is pissin off Scarborough

drivingtheview on February 14, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Frankly, if it looks like Chuckles is going to get confirmed by a hair, Republicans should just back off and save their ammo.

starboardhelm on February 14, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Save their ammo for what, the circular firing squad?

claudius on February 14, 2013 at 4:18 PM

I recall Obama during the televised hearing he had with the congress on Obamacare going out of his way to embarrass and humiliate McCain by responding to one of his statements by saying, “Sorry John but I won the election”. Now McCain is going to cave and lick his boots, despite the fact that Hagel, by any measure, doesn’t deserve or qualify to be Sec Def.

tommyboy on February 14, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Senate now voting on ending debate on Hagel nomination – @markknoller

3 mins ago from twitter.com/markknoller by editor

canopfor on February 14, 2013 at 4:21 PM

People say that if we had a 3rd party, like a Tea Party or something of that ilk, that all we’d do is lose. Funny, that’s all that seems to happen ANYWAYS. Screw the GOP.

search4truth on February 14, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Show of hands who think the GOP will do the difficult and right thing here…anybody?

Jackalope on February 14, 2013 at 4:23 PM

It’s 4:27. What’s the deal?

Dusty on February 14, 2013 at 4:27 PM

Show of hands who think the GOP will do the difficult and right thing here…anybody?

[Jackalope on February 14, 2013 at 4:23 PM]

I’m sitting on mine, just to make sure no one counts me.

Dusty on February 14, 2013 at 4:29 PM

So, why do you think Obama is pushing this guy? Is it because Obama is an arrogant little twerp, or is this part of some devious master plan? I’m going with arrogant little twerp.

claudius on February 14, 2013 at 4:29 PM

On CSPAN2, Cruz seems to be standing by the rostrum and Tim Scott left by patting someone on the back. Not many Dems lingering around.

blammm on February 14, 2013 at 4:31 PM

I’m going with devious master plan

Jackalope on February 14, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Cochran AYE as expected.

Gingotts on February 14, 2013 at 4:33 PM

Collins AYE as expected.

Gingotts on February 14, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Cower, cave, compromise.

The new Republican Party.

madmonkphotog on February 14, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Jabberwock on February 14, 2013 at 4:03 PM

thanks

txmomof6 on February 14, 2013 at 4:04 PM

ditto

cmsinaz on February 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM

canopfor on February 14, 2013 at 4:16 PM

you got it…

drivingtheview on February 14, 2013 at 4:18 PM

he’ll blame on the scaredy cat gop who follow wayne lapierre

cmsinaz on February 14, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Murkowski AYE…. the fix is in.

Gingotts on February 14, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Murky an aye. Not a shock

rcpjr on February 14, 2013 at 4:38 PM

the gop is petty
-gloria borger

ummm, john bolton? miguel estrada?

puhleeze

cmsinaz on February 14, 2013 at 4:39 PM

cnn already calling the gop obstructionists…and there you go

cmsinaz on February 14, 2013 at 4:40 PM

ot

BREAKING: Obama made no phone calls on night of Benghazi attack, White House says

CoffeeLover on February 14, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Well we have to see to it bho isn’t all bent out of shape for his vacation/golf this week-end so gotta give him all/everything he wants now doesn’t dc?

My head and stomach hurts with our brain dead elected!
L

letget on February 14, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Don’t just give in on this guy. Make them give something in return, you know it’s called compromise.

Kissmygrits on February 14, 2013 at 4:44 PM

BREAKING: Obama made no phone calls on night of Benghazi attack, White House says

CoffeeLover on February 14, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Well there you go ! If he did not know anything, he could not have known anything.
Therefore he did not know anything.
Blameless !!!

And CLUELESS.

Jabberwock on February 14, 2013 at 4:47 PM

The MSM calls the GOP obstructionists.

20 months before an election – who the Hell cares?

Voters cannot remember 20 days, let alone 20 months.

Like the MSM has the GOP’s best interests in mind?

matthew8787 on February 14, 2013 at 4:48 PM

*************Looks Like A No Go For Hagel*********************

Roll Call ‏@rollcall

RT @MEPFuller: Looks like Hagel cloture will fail 57-43, with Collins, Cochran, Johanns for and Reid against (for procedural purposes).

canopfor on February 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Canopfor…I am on Cspan and they still haven’t announced the vote totals….

CoffeeLover on February 14, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Unreal. Maverick was just on Cavuto saying Hagel will be confirmed when they return from recess. He rattled off a litany of Hagel’s shortcomings and then said “…but, Obama won reelection and he’ll get his nominee.” Wut? So the GOP gets crushed in the media for being obstructionists only to cave later? Why bother at all? Oy!

rcpjr on February 14, 2013 at 4:51 PM

canopfor on February 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM

not surprised by the 3 gop aye votes…

cmsinaz on February 14, 2013 at 4:51 PM

*************Looks Like A No Go For Hagel*********************

Roll Call ‏@rollcall

RT @MEPFuller: Looks like Hagel cloture will fail 57-43, with Collins, Cochran, Johanns for and Reid against (for procedural purposes).

canopfor on February 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Jew Haters very sad tonight.

sentinelrules on February 14, 2013 at 4:51 PM

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