Harry Reid: We don’t have the votes to break a GOP filibuster on Hagel; Update: Senate to vote on Hagel today

posted at 2:41 pm on February 14, 2013 by Allahpundit

Don’t get too excited. As I’m writing this, CNN is interrupting its round-the-clock coverage of Marco Rubio drinking water to report a sellout compromise in the offing:

In the meantime, with a cloture set for tomorrow morning, Reid can’t get to 60 and he’s grumpy about it:

“My Republican colleagues had led us to believe they would not filibuster Senator Chuck Hagel’s confirmation as Secretary of Defense,” Reid (D-NV) said in a statement released by his office. “But that has changed. Now, Senate Republicans have made it clear they intend to mount a full-scale filibuster, and block the Senate from holding a final passage vote on Senator Hagel’s nomination. Make no mistake: Republicans are trying to defeat Senator Hagel’s nomination by filibustering while submitting extraneous requests that will never be satisfied.”

Said Reid, “We do not have, at 12 o’clock today, a secretary of Defense.” Which is amusing, because if this guy gets confirmed, we won’t have one then either.

The Journal headlines its piece on this, “Hagel nomination again in jeopardy.” If only that were true. If Reid is short of 60, he’s barely short: He’s got 55 Democrats plus Thad Cochran, Susan Collins, and Mike Johanns. And there’s plenty of reason to think he’ll get at least two more. As Byron York, Philip Klein, and Dave Weigel explain, there’s nothing resembling a unified GOP caucus on this. There’s one group, led by Ted Cruz, that’s prepared to torpedo Hagel, but the rest of the caucus is split among people like McCain and Roy Blunt who don’t necessarily want to block him but want more info on Benghazi or on Hagel’s foreign sources of income before voting for cloture. It’s impossible to believe that Reid won’t ultimately get a couple of votes from that group especially once the media starts hammering the “obstructionist Republicans” message, never mind the fact that Democrats happily filibustered John Bolton in 2005. Unnamed Republican senators are telling Fox News flat out that Hagel will eventually be confirmed, just not tomorrow. So, yay for taking a stand.

Serious question: If Hagel doesn’t deserve to be blocked, who does? His opponents have seized on his anti-Israel rhetoric, more of which emerges every week, but as contemptible as it is, I don’t think that’s reason to filibuster. Democrats are right when they say that the president deserves wide latitude in choosing his cabinet; if The One wants to bear the political consequences of appointing a guy known for babbling about the “Jewish lobby,” that’s on him. The reason to block Hagel is that he’s manifestly unprepared for the job and isn’t all that shy about admitting it. When concerns about a nominee shift from political disagreement to questions about his basic competence then the “advise and consent” role should require stopping the nomination even with a filibuster. At that point it’s no longer a dispute over foreign policy, it’s about protecting the military from mismanagement. Typically you don’t worry about a president putting the Senate in a position like that but Obama wants his Republican rubber-stamp nominee so he’s willing to skimp on qualifications. He deserves to have a pick this cynical blocked.

Update: Dan Foster’s right. If a cave is inevitable here, let’s get on with it:

Okay, so what are you going to learn about Hagel in the next ten days? Is there some bombshell you’ve got ready but you need a little more time to cross the t’s and dot the i’s? Are you using this holdup as leverage to get something else you want? Do you think peeling ten days off the calendar is going to prevent Harry Reid from bringing some odious measure to the floor? Is Lindsey Graham suddenly going to get those elusive “answers” on Benghazi? If the answer to all of these questions is “no,” just what the hell is the point of waiting to confirm Hagel?

Update: Here we go.

Either he finally, and quietly, got those final two GOP votes he needs or he’s pushing this now to dare Republicans to follow through on their filibuster promise and risk a week of “UNPRECEDENTED OBSTRUCTION!” headlines.


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NRO is reporting cloture voted failed and the Reid had to vote No for procedural reasons — so he can bring it up again.

matthew8787 on February 14, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Yay. 45 Pubs in the Senate and we can just barely manage a filibuster.

Citizen-003528 on February 14, 2013 at 4:52 PM

*************Looks Like A No Go For Hagel*********************

Roll Call ‏@rollcall

RT @MEPFuller: Looks like Hagel cloture will fail 57-43, with Collins, Cochran, Johanns for and Reid against (for procedural purposes).

canopfor on February 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM

58-42. Murky went gutless on us too. Otherwise known as Thursday.

Gingotts on February 14, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Here is the link for bho not calling on benghazi.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/14/white-house-no-phone-calls-benghazi/
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letget on February 14, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Gingotts on February 14, 2013 at 4:53 PM

heh

cmsinaz on February 14, 2013 at 4:57 PM

they were waiting on Lautenberg!

Y 58

N 40

Present 1

Motion Not Agreed To

Harry Reid did his procedural stuff.

CoffeeLover on February 14, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Roll Call ‏@rollcall

RT @MEPFuller: Murkowski votes for Hagel cloture. 58-41 should be final tally.

canopfor on February 14, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Harry is demonizing Rs. Needs to have the vote today! We have a war going on in Afghanistan. Waiting to see what else he can possibly say about those evil Rs….

CoffeeLover on February 14, 2013 at 4:59 PM

As a reminder, these idiots will probably end up voting to confirm Hagel not because he’s qualified (he’s not), or because he’s really smart (he’s not), or because he’s not a flaming anti-Semite (he actually is), but because of professional courtesy. That’s what they’re going to base this on. Absolutely unbelievable.

changer1701 on February 14, 2013 at 5:00 PM

canopfor on February 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM

58-42. Murky went gutless on us too. Otherwise known as Thursday.

Gingotts on February 14, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Gingotts:Lol,ahem:)

canopfor on February 14, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Present 1

So bho was there to vote? He usually voted ‘present’ in the past didn’t he?
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letget on February 14, 2013 at 5:00 PM

canopfer….who was the “present” vote? or do you know where I can go to find the tally of record?

CoffeeLover on February 14, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Senate Democrats fall a vote short of 60 needed to end filibuster and bring Hagel nomination to a confirmation vote – @markknoller

1 min ago by editor

canopfor on February 14, 2013 at 5:02 PM

harry is going to call Hagel and apologize for the Rs. Hopes nothing goes wrong in next 10 days.

CoffeeLover on February 14, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Cornyn is rebutting Harry.

WH and Harry Reid just trying to get media support for taking a vote today when it wasn’t needed.

Leon Panetta is still the Defense Secretary.

CoffeeLover on February 14, 2013 at 5:05 PM

canopfer….who was the “present” vote? or do you know where I can go to find the tally of record?

CoffeeLover on February 14, 2013 at 5:00 PM

CoffeeLover:

I’ve been looking,and I was waiting for the Senate Roll Call
to update!:)
============

U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 113th Congress – 1st Session (2013)

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/vote_menu_113_1.htm
========================

And for the h*ll of it,the House:

Roll Call Votes

U.S. House of Representatives Roll Call Votes
Roll Call votes are compiled through the electronic voting machine by the House Tally Clerks under the direction of Karen L. Haas, Clerk of the House.

113th Congress, 1st Session (2013)

http://clerk.house.gov/legislative/legvotes.aspx

canopfor on February 14, 2013 at 5:07 PM

I think Hatch voted Present.

supernova on February 14, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Harry is just looking for an excuse to go nuclear… er, sorry nukuler.

jnelchef on February 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM

Senate Democrats fall a vote short of 60 needed to end filibuster and bring Hagel nomination to a confirmation vote – @markknoller

1 min ago by editor

58-40-1 so wasn’t it two votes short?

Missy on February 14, 2013 at 5:09 PM

thanks

Now watching the Rs explain filibuster to Harry

CoffeeLover on February 14, 2013 at 5:11 PM

We have a war going on in Afghanistan.

[CoffeeLover on February 14, 2013 at 4:59 PM]

LOL. Bless your little heart, Harry. All our troops will be out of Afghanistan before Hagel could find his desk.

Dusty on February 14, 2013 at 5:12 PM

canopfer….who was the “present” vote? or do you know where I can go to find the tally of record?

CoffeeLover on February 14, 2013 at 5:00 PM

CoffeeLover:)
=====================

Hatch Voted Present!

Roll Call ‏@rollcall

Cloture vote on #Hagel nomination fails 58-40. Orrin Hatch voted present, Harry Reid voted no so he can bring up again.

https://twitter.com/rollcall

canopfor on February 14, 2013 at 5:14 PM

President Dumbledoor awards 10 Senate votes in favor of cloture.

BobMbx on February 14, 2013 at 5:14 PM

lol Dusty

CoffeeLover on February 14, 2013 at 5:15 PM

We have a war going on in Afghanistan.

[CoffeeLover on February 14, 2013 at 4:59 PM]

CoffeeLover:

Yup,I heard that,as if Reid gives a Rats *ss on Afghanistan!:)

canopfor on February 14, 2013 at 5:16 PM

58-40-1 so wasn’t it two votes short?

Missy on February 14, 2013 at 5:09 PM

Okay, I think I get it now -

@philipaklein RT @toddzwillich: Vote was 59-39 with one present, Reid changing his vote to “no” for procedural reasons on Hagel

So technically 1 vote short but really two (b/c Reid will have to get from 58 to 60 in the next vote).

Missy on February 14, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Reid is beyond comprehension…now we have Schumer debating that it is a ‘filibuster.’ Seems they are fighting over how the networks are going to frame this today on 6pm news!

CoffeeLover on February 14, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Roll Call ‏@rollcall

RT @DavidMDrucker: Sen. Alexander on Floor: I had to wait 87 days to be confirmed Ed Secretary.
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Lauren Whittington ‏@l_whittington

John Cornyn: “This is not a filibuster.” #hagel
Retweeted by Roll Call
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16m Roll Call Roll Call ‏@rollcall

MT @KyleTrygstad: Reid makes note of “valiant four” Republicans who joined Dems on #Hagel vote

canopfor on February 14, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Heres the Roll Call,it just popped up:)

U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 113th Congress – 1st Session

as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate

Vote Summary

Question: On the Cloture Motion (Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Nomination of Charles Timothy Hagel, of Nebraska, to be Secretary of Defense )

Vote Number:

21

Vote Date:

February 14, 2013, 04:17 PM

Required For Majority:

3/5

Vote Result:

Cloture Motion Rejected

Nomination Number:

PN34

Nomination Description:

Charles Timothy Hagel, of Nebraska, to be Secretary of Defense

Vote Counts:

YEAs

58

NAYs

40

Present

1

Not Voting

1

lphabetical by Senator Name

Alexander (R-TN), Nay
Ayotte (R-NH), Nay
Baldwin (D-WI), Yea
Barrasso (R-WY), Nay
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Begich (D-AK), Yea
Bennet (D-CO), Yea
Blumenthal (D-CT), Yea
Blunt (R-MO), Nay
Boozman (R-AR), Nay
Boxer (D-CA), Yea
Brown (D-OH), Yea
Burr (R-NC), Nay
Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
Cardin (D-MD), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Casey (D-PA), Yea
Chambliss (R-GA), Nay
Coats (R-IN), Nay
Coburn (R-OK), Nay
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Coons (D-DE), Yea
Corker (R-TN), Nay
Cornyn (R-TX), Nay
Cowan (D-MA), Yea
Crapo (R-ID), Nay
Cruz (R-TX), Nay
Donnelly (D-IN), Yea
Durbin (D-IL), Yea
Enzi (R-WY), Nay
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Fischer (R-NE), Nay
Flake (R-AZ), Nay

Franken (D-MN), Yea
Gillibrand (D-NY), Yea
Graham (R-SC), Nay
Grassley (R-IA), Nay
Hagan (D-NC), Yea
Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Hatch (R-UT), Present
Heinrich (D-NM), Yea
Heitkamp (D-ND), Yea
Heller (R-NV), Nay
Hirono (D-HI), Yea
Hoeven (R-ND), Nay
Inhofe (R-OK), Nay
Isakson (R-GA), Nay
Johanns (R-NE), Yea
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Johnson (R-WI), Nay
Kaine (D-VA), Yea
King (I-ME), Yea
Kirk (R-IL), Nay
Klobuchar (D-MN), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
Leahy (D-VT), Yea
Lee (R-UT), Nay
Levin (D-MI), Yea
Manchin (D-WV), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Nay
McCaskill (D-MO), Yea
McConnell (R-KY), Nay
Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
Merkley (D-OR), Yea
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Moran (R-KS), Nay

Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murphy (D-CT), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Yea
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Paul (R-KY), Nay
Portman (R-OH), Nay
Pryor (D-AR), Yea
Reed (D-RI), Yea
Reid (D-NV), Nay
Risch (R-ID), Nay
Roberts (R-KS), Nay
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Rubio (R-FL), Nay
Sanders (I-VT), Yea
Schatz (D-HI), Yea
Schumer (D-NY), Yea
Scott (R-SC), Nay
Sessions (R-AL), Nay
Shaheen (D-NH), Yea
Shelby (R-AL), Nay
Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
Tester (D-MT), Yea
Thune (R-SD), Nay
Toomey (R-PA), Nay
Udall (D-CO), Yea
Udall (D-NM), Yea
Vitter (R-LA), Not Voting
Warner (D-VA), Yea
Warren (D-MA), Yea
Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea
Wicker (R-MS), Nay
Wyden (D-OR), Yea

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00021

canopfor on February 14, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Reid has a real problem now. If senators have been released from their promises to vote for Hagel, then he will not get to 60. Reid is not stupid, which is why his staff was floating that “story” to Dana Brash. This push back may be coming from the Dem’s, using the Reps as shields. If true, then POTUS just has entered lame duck land.

flackcatcher on February 14, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Reid has a real problem now. If senators have been released from their promises to vote for Hagel, then he will not get to 60. Reid is not stupid, which is why his staff was floating that “story” to Dana Brash. This push back may be coming from the Dem’s, using the Reps as shields. If true, then POTUS just has entered lame duck land.

flackcatcher on February 14, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Wishful thinking. GOP already stated that Hagel will be nominated eventually, they are just waiting to see how much they will profit.

We’re really screwed now, not only will military and foreign policy will suffer, A LOT, but Hussein will be happy to say that a “Republican” did it.

riddick on February 14, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Reid’s Short Memory on the Filibuster

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid blasted Republican senators for their refusal to support bringing former Nebraska senator Chuck Hagel’s nomination to the floor for an up or down vote. Amidst references to the unprecedented nature of the Republicans’ obstructionist efforts, Reid failed to mention his opposition to a Bush administration cabinet nominee on nearly identical grounds.

“Just when you thought things couldn’t get any worse, it gets worse,” Reid lamented this morning on the Senate floor. “I’m going to call Chuck Hagel when I finish here and say, ‘I’m sorry, sorry this has happened. I’m sorry for the president, I’m sorry for the country, and I’m sorry for you.”

The momentum for a filibuster picked up steam when senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham indicated they would not vote to end debate and allow a vote on the nomination until the White House provided more information on the Benghazi attack. “Chuck Hagel had nothing to do with the attack in Benghazi,” Reid argued.

Former Idaho governor Dirk Kempthorne didn’t have anything to do with the Bush administration’s position on public land sales in Southern Nevada, either. Nonetheless, Reid in 2006 supported a filibuster of Kempthorne’s nomination as secretary of the interior until the administration agreed to redirect funds from an enormously profitable Nevada land management fund, set to go to the Treasury Department, to the state of Nevada.

“I said before that I couldn’t support Governor Kempthorne’s nomination unless we could come to an agreement about key public land issues,” Reid, who said the Senate minority leader at the time, said in a statement. When the Bush administration acceded to Reid’s demands, he declared his support for Kempthorne’s nomination.

Reid today repeatedly decried the GOP’s opposition to Hagel’s nomination, pointing to the historical nature of the alleged obstruction. As it turns out, Kempthorne was the last cabinet nominee to face a filibuster . . . thanks in part to Harry Reid.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/340768/reids-short-memory-filibuster-eliana-johnson

Resist We Much on February 15, 2013 at 1:40 AM

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