Cable news replayed the clip of Rubio sipping water more than 200 times yesterday

posted at 10:41 am on February 14, 2013 by Allahpundit

Say thanks to Jeff Poor and the Daily Caller for enduring the Ludovico-ish process needed to tally these numbers. The “200 times” figure comes with an asterisk: Turns out Rachel Maddow alone accounted for more than half the replays by putting the clip of Rubio reaching for the water on a loop, tucked into a corner of the screen, for 13 minutes while she and Steve Kornacki were hashing out the particulars of his speech. (Seeing is believing.) Jon Stewart once chided her and MSNBC for beating the “teabagger” joke into the ground, but in hindsight he should be glad she never resorted to a push-button morning-zoo-style soundboard for the T-word. She’s always been touted as a more civil, substantive alternative to Olbermann, and in fairness this episode bears that out. If Olby were still on the air, he would have run the clip for the full hour.

At Mediaite, Joe Concha looks at the tone of the coverage across various networks and wonders how it’s come to this:

Since old, white, stuffy Mitt Romney’s defeat in November, the media has lectured us on what kind of candidate the GOP needs to produce, which actually sounds similar to a remedy for a struggling baseball team: Republicans need to get younger, more diverse, stronger up the middle.

So what happens when a respected 41-year-old Cuban-American Republican U.S. Senator is put on the national stage?

The media turns him into a punch line. And if you’re like most Americans too busy to devote hours of time to watch the State of the Union and its rebuttal, the news you got this morning portrayed Rubio as Cindy in the infamous spelling bee episode of the Brady Bunch (Cindy aces all tests in school until a red light on a camera during a televised contest freezes her beyond repair).

Poor impression made.

Mission accomplished.

What’s interesting about the Maddow segment is that she actually does engage with the specifics of Rubio’s speech yet still felt obliged to have the water clip running over and over onscreen, which ends up distracting from the commentary. But then, why limit yourself to convincing the viewer with your argument when you can condition them to view Rubio as a ridiculous figure with visual cues too? She might as well have skipped the clip and simply delivered her commentary over a flashing banner, “DO NOT TAKE MARCO RUBIO SERIOUSLY.”

If you exclude the 101 replays on Maddow’s show, you’re still at 100 replays for the day. On Fox, the clip ran an average of once every 90 minutes over 18 hours; on CNN a bit more than every 30 minutes, with Wolf Blitzer accounting for most of that; and on MSNBC, naturally, every 20 minutes. Here’s the guy whom MSNBC has airing at 6 p.m., the national news hour, predictably mispronouncing Rubio’s name and demonstrating that he still hasn’t learned that you don’t need to shout on a TV set the way you do on a theater stage to make your voice heard. Nice job by Reverend Al’s writers, though: This is, by current standards, legitimately SNL-quality comedy.


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Tell that to Karl Rove and his crowd.

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 2:40 PM

No habla english.

VorDaj on February 14, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Is there much difference between Rubio and Jeb Bush?

idesign on February 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Why aren’t latinos rally to Senor Blondie’s side? He doesn’t angloander to us gringos.

VorDaj on February 14, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Is there much difference between Rubio and Jeb Bush?

idesign on February 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Jeb Bush is a lot taller. That’s about it.

VorDaj on February 14, 2013 at 2:46 PM

No habla english.

VorDaj on February 14, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Yeah. Violating the rule of law is conservative. Putting lawbreakers ahead of honest folks is conservative. Spending massive amounts of money on freebies for freeloaders is conservative. Giving the Democrats a permanent majority is conservative. Making socialism the norm is conservative. I just can’t understand how I couldn’t see it before this? /sarc

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Is there much difference between Rubio and Jeb Bush?
idesign on February 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Last names.

Rusty Allen on February 14, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Rubio is a legitimate threat to my uneducated Democrat Party, because he’s intelligent and is also a minority. Therefore he must be taken out early and often.

lester, it’s time for your violin lesson! on February 14, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Edited for accuracy.

Del Dolemonte on February 14, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Del Dolemonte on February 14, 2013 at 2:51 PM

LoLz..:)

Dire Straits on February 14, 2013 at 2:53 PM

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 2:40 PM

And what’s the end result? Barack Obama and every stinking socialist policy he stands for… and people who refer to themselves as “conservative” standing impotently aside while he does whatever he likes.

Again, what the heck do you think is going to happen when your perfect “conservative” Jesus comes along?

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Yeah. Violating the rule of law is conservative. Putting lawbreakers ahead of honest folks is conservative. Spending massive amounts of money on freebies for freeloaders is conservative. Giving the Democrats a permanent majority is conservative. Making socialism the norm is conservative. I just can’t understand how I couldn’t see it before this? /sarc

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Adelante!

VorDaj on February 14, 2013 at 2:55 PM

And what’s the end result? Barack Obama and every stinking socialist policy he stands for… and people who refer to themselves as “conservative” standing impotently aside while he does whatever he likes.

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 2:54 PM

That is exactly what is happening now with your guys in charge. Except of course they aren’t conservative, so why not try something different?

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 2:57 PM

I will stand with them if they are not a mucho hisanderer. Rubio can seek help from those he hispandered to.

VorDaj on February 14, 2013 at 2:42 PM

Way to totally miss a point. Kudos. You even managed to work in an ethnic insult. /sarc

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Bull patties. Palin flamed out, yes.

No she didn’t. She was left as dead meat.

Bottom line… we don’t have to embrace Rubio’s policy on immigration, but we DO need to draw a line in the sand and refuse to allow him to be systematically destroyed. If we don’t, we’ll never see another conservative elected in this country, no matter how good s/he might be.

THIS FAR AND NO FURTHER.

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 1:52 PM

So NOW we draw these lines in the sand. Uh uh.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:06 PM

That is exactly what is happening now with your guys in charge. Except of course they aren’t conservative, so why not try something different?

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 2:57 PM

That’s my point. We’re never going to have even the opportunity to try something different if we continue to allow the politics of personal destruction to be a successful tool.

Think about the utter ridiculousness of attacking and mocking a man for taking a sip of water. And then think about how much MORE ridiculous it is that something like that is WORKING for them. The content of Rubio’s words are magically vaporized in the arena of public discussion. Instead of HEARING what he has to say, he’s just a comical water-guzzler. How can you possibly believe that any candidate YOU might put forward will not be just as easily sidelined?

That’s the point. It’s not about Rubio. It’s about the threat that socialists perceive to their power.

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 3:06 PM

Nobody has the duty to rally ’round him. Let him twist in the wind, if it makes you feel better. The base has already started to tear him down, anyway. By 2015 he will be more hated than Romney.

Gelsomina on February 14, 2013 at 1:34 PM

It’s a b1tch, ain’t it?

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Think about the utter ridiculousness of attacking and mocking a man for taking a sip of water. And then think about how much MORE ridiculous it is that something like that is WORKING for them. The content of Rubio’s words are magically vaporized in the arena of public discussion.

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 3:06 PM

Like someone pointed out earlier, if what Rubio said was especially noteworthy, there wouldn’t be all the discussion of water-drinking. It was blah, like his RNC speech. But as with the media and Obama’s alleged oratorical virtuosity, we’re supposed to say it was soaring.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Don’t be an idiot. Why do you think Palin was Palinized?

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Probably because she comes off like a hick and presents an easy target. Plus, she represents women in a way that doesn’t conform to the Dem stereotype of career-minded, abortion-loving, feminists who need govt as a crutch to get along in life.

What the MSM is doing to Rubio with this water-driking clip is to distract from what he said in this one speech. If it damages him permanently, so much the better…but I don’t think they expect that. The whole thing is too damned silly.

BTW, nice manners.

DRayRaven on February 14, 2013 at 3:11 PM

They keep thinking that this is a one way street where conservatives have to support and fund liberal Republicans, but the liberal arm never has to lift a finger for conservatives. In fact they generally like to join the socialists in criticizing conservatives as a sport.

I think a great number of people have lost that lovin’ feeling as far as the GOP goes.

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Yep. It was like all that whining from Mittbots over those mean MEAN Obama ads.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:12 PM

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:06 PM

Are you enjoying the Reign of Emperor Obama? Want more of the same?

If not, you’ll take what you learned about “palinizing” people and remove that tactic from the left’s quiver. Turn the mockery back at them. Today, we ought to be making Rachael Maddow and Wolf Blitzer squirm. They should be the butt of every joke, the embarrassed subject of every blog. Instead, we’re still in the bull-pen trying to decide if we like Marco Rubio or not… when all along Rubio isn’t even close to being the point.

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Probably because she comes off like a hick and presents an easy target.

DRayRaven on February 14, 2013 at 3:11 PM

Bullshit. She doesn’t come off as any more of a “hick” than Bill Clinton or Haley Barbour. She was a target because she got conservatives fired up and she almost single-handedly popped that Obama messianic bubble in her RNC speech.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:14 PM

lester on February 14, 2013 at 11:57 AM

 

rogerb and his opinion on how gangs rarely use guns (yes, it sound as stupid as you think) oddly absent.
 
lester on December 26, 2012 at 12:16 PM
 
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/26/charts-of-the-day-gun-violence-in-america-declining-over-last-20-years/comment-page-1/#comment-6597369

 
Don’t you want to post your evidence of where I said gangs rarely use guns, lester?

rogerb on February 14, 2013 at 3:14 PM

Are you enjoying the Reign of Emperor Obama? Want more of the same?

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Why ask me? It’s your party and your guys running as feckless GOPe-anointed saviors that make Obamas possible.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Why aren’t latinos rally to Senor Blondie’s side? He doesn’t angloander to us gringos.

VorDaj on February 14, 2013 at 2:45 PM

They’ll rally to Hillary. The narrative will be that Hillary is a pioneer in women’s rights; will give you free stuff; has the foreign policy chops (she read a teleprompter like Barry, snort, and is a joke); went to Yale Law School a hundred years ago; and is married to Bill Clinton who will be deemed an honorary Latino by La Raza who has the power to confer identity and take identity away.

They’ll love it.

Meanwhile, Marco will be highlighted as inexperienced; never been tested on the world stage; a fraud and a liar; evil; a white person (the wrong kind of white person, mind you); a male; a “token slave boy” (that’s what a Univision hack called him); and a pawn of the rich and powerful (who always vote Democrat). La Raza and affiliated groups will even take away his identity from him.

And these two narratives — Hillary Femme Jesus; Marco White Privilege Satan — will be hammered, 24/7, on the MSM and the MSM en Espanol.

We all know this will happen.

Punchenko on February 14, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Bullshit. She doesn’t come off as any more of a “hick” than Bill Clinton or Haley Barbour. She was a target because she got conservatives fired up and she almost single-handedly popped that Obama messianic bubble in her RNC speech.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:14 PM

Heh. You have a point with Haley Barbour…or maybe Ernest Hollings. But she definitely comes across as a bigger hick that Bubba Clinton, and that’s saying something.

Mind you, I don’t think Palin is a stupid hick. I’m just saying it’s easy to paint her that way, especially to low-info types.

DRayRaven on February 14, 2013 at 3:18 PM

We’re never going to have even the opportunity to try something different if we continue to allow the politics of personal destruction to be a successful tool.

What do you mean WE, kemosabe?

I am a conservative, not a liberal. Rubio isn’t on my side, he’s on the side of the left.

How can you possibly believe that any candidate YOU might put forward will not be just as easily sidelined?

Since I supported Palin I would think it rather obvious that I have no such illusions.

You seem to believe this can be reversed, but I don’t.

That’s the point. It’s not about Rubio. It’s about the threat that socialists perceive to their power.

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 3:06 PM

Rubio is supporting the left’s agenda so he isn’t a threat to them in any way. He is on Team GOP so they are intent on destroying him just like they went after Mitt Romney the liberal.

It doesn’t matter which one of them wins because they both back the same garbage.

Yes it is about Rubio, it is about Obama, it is about Bush, it is about Clinton. You want to ignore what these people are supporting and think I should care if the ones with an R beside their name are savaged when they would try to destroy conservatism given half a chance.

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 3:18 PM

Like someone pointed out earlier, if what Rubio said was especially noteworthy, there wouldn’t be all the discussion of water-drinking. It was blah, like his RNC speech. But as with the media and Obama’s alleged oratorical virtuosity, we’re supposed to say it was soaring.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Who said so?… Wolf Blitzer? Rachel Maddow? lol

Frankly, it doesn’t matter. It wouldn’t matter if Rubio’s speech was the most boring speech ever to have existed in human history. The POINT is that we’ve allowed the leftist media to make a story out of a sip of WATER, and that we know they’ve done so for the purpose of tearing down a political candidate.

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 3:20 PM

Heh. You have a point with Haley Barbour…or maybe Ernest Hollings. But she definitely comes across as a bigger hick that Bubba Clinton, and that’s saying something.

Mind you, I don’t think Palin is a stupid hick. I’m just saying it’s easy to paint her that way, especially to low-info types.

DRayRaven on February 14, 2013 at 3:18 PM

And it’s easy to paint Rubio as an inexperienced, awkward token. So I guess it’s OK to just sit back and enjoy the show again.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:20 PM

Yep. It was like all that whining from Mittbots over those mean MEAN Obama ads.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:12 PM

And they are constantly shocked and amazed that their leftist friends turn on them so viciously when political season rolls around.

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 3:21 PM

Um, the people here painting Rubio as supporting the left’s agenda are delusional. He’s not “deport-em-all” on immigration, but he’s hardly supporting blanket amnesty with no border security, either.

DRayRaven on February 14, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Frankly, it doesn’t matter. It wouldn’t matter if Rubio’s speech was the most boring speech ever to have existed in human history. The POINT is that we’ve allowed the leftist media to make a story out of a sip of WATER, and that we know they’ve done so for the purpose of tearing down a political candidate.

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 3:20 PM

“We’ve” allowed nothing. Rubio is flaming out, right? Like Palin did.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:23 PM

She doesn’t come off as any more of a “hick” than Bill Clinton or Haley Barbour. She was a target because she got conservatives fired up and she almost single-handedly popped that Obama messianic bubble in her RNC speech.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:14 PM

It’s way too late for Palin. They tore her down in ’08-’12 and even made a movie about her that portrayed her as stupid, unhinged, and unable to function under pressure. The same thing will happen to Rubio and every other Republican politician going forward now that our media revels in propaganda.

The only thing that will destroy the MSM is bankrupting it and making it socially unacceptable — and unwise for business — to criticize, unfairly, conservative politicians and positions.

Punchenko on February 14, 2013 at 3:24 PM

And they are constantly shocked and amazed that their leftist friends turn on them so viciously when political season rolls around.

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 3:21 PM

They need to ponder the phrase, “what goes around, comes around”.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:24 PM

It’s way too late for Palin. They tore her down in ’08-’12 and even made a movie about her that portrayed her as stupid, unhinged, and unable to function under pressure. The same thing will happen to Rubio and every other Republican politician going forward now that our media revels in propaganda.

The only thing that will destroy the MSM is bankrupting it and making it socially unacceptable — and unwise for business — to criticize, unfairly, conservative politicians and positions.

Punchenko on February 14, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Good luck with that.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Fox News responded by attacking a 102 year old woman who was forced to wait in 3 hour long lines because of Rick Scott’s policies. But poor Rubio or something.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/14/fox-news-hosts-desiline-victor_n_2688111.html

libfreeordie on February 14, 2013 at 3:25 PM

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 3:18 PM

Not buying it. You sound like a liberal sock to me. It’s just not a believable argument.

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 3:26 PM

They need to ponder the phrase, “what goes around, comes around”.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:24 PM

I have no sympathy for them and I don’t see the Republican facilitators of socialist legislation, as all that different from the Democratic instigators of the same legislation.

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 3:27 PM

It’s way too late for Palin

Punchenko on February 14, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Saved for future posts..:)

idesign on February 14, 2013 at 3:28 PM

And it’s easy to paint Rubio as an inexperienced, awkward token. So I guess it’s OK to just sit back and enjoy the show again.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:20 PM

I’m not sure what you think I believe, but I’m pretty sure you’re wrong.

I’m not a huge Rubio fan. I’m “wait and see” on him, at best. I don’t fall in with those who are automatically opposed to him because he’s Hisapanic and therefore feel he’s a token, either. I’m not opposed to his immigration stance, either…so long as it has real border security first.

That said, he is a charismatic spokesman, and I can see why he’s the early frontrunner – and I also see why the MSM and Dems fear him.

Also, I never said what the media did to Palin was OK. I was a big Palin fan up until it became clear (to me, at least) she was milking the prospect of running in 2012 until the last possible moment. To help her career? Probably…but I thought her supporters (including me)deserved better.

Frankly, I’m hoping Perry runs again and gets some traction this time – which I think he could. I could live with Rubio, but he’s not my top prospect.

DRayRaven on February 14, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Not buying it. You sound like a liberal sock to me. It’s just not a believable argument.

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 3:26 PM

The ones pimping whatever GOPe favorite are the ones who sound like liberal socks. And purists. Idiotic party purists.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:29 PM

ddrintn

Who ARE you?

avagreen on February 14, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Fox News responded by attacking a 102 year old woman who was forced to wait in 3 hour long lines because of Rick Scott’s policies. But poor Rubio or something.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/14/fox-news-hosts-desiline-victor_n_2688111.html

libfreeordie on February 14, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Rick Scott is a hero.

Punchenko on February 14, 2013 at 3:31 PM

It’s way too late for Palin. They tore her down in ’08-’12 and even made a movie about her that portrayed her as stupid, unhinged, and unable to function under pressure. The same thing will happen to Rubio and every other Republican politician going forward now that our media revels in propaganda.

The only thing that will destroy the MSM is bankrupting it and making it socially unacceptable — and unwise for business — to criticize, unfairly, conservative politicians and positions.

Punchenko on February 14, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Exactly. The media needs to wake up to the threat that rampant socialism poses to it before its too late. Right now, they work for Democrats on a voluntary basis, believing themselves to be altruists or something. Soon enough, on the path we’re on, they’ll find themselves chained to the doghouse.

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Not buying it. You sound like a liberal sock to me. It’s just not a believable argument.

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 3:26 PM

I really don’t give a damn what you buy or don’t buy.

Maybe there are six million secret agents?

http://washingtonexaminer.com/estimated-6.6-million-fewer-white-voters-showed-up-to-vote-in-2012/article/2513069#.UOysro76TMM

But it is shocking to discover that when given the choice to vote for or against President Obama, a large group of white voters simply chose not to participate in the elective process. Perhaps it serves as an additional warning to the Romney campaign and Republicans. Not only did they fail to properly defend their candidate, they were unable to make their party platform appealing enough to attract the same amount of voters as they did in 2008.

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 3:31 PM

That said, he is a charismatic spokesman, and I can see why he’s the early frontrunner – and I also see why the MSM and Dems fear him.

If they really feared Rubio, they wouldn’t be telling you they fear him a la Van Jones the other night. Man, they were terrified of Huntsman too.

Also, I never said what the media did to Palin was OK. I was a big Palin fan up until it became clear (to me, at least) she was milking the prospect of running in 2012 until the last possible moment. To help her career? Probably…but I thought her supporters (including me)deserved better.

How did it help her career? Getting in would have been more of an ego-boost and payola, win or lose.

Frankly, I’m hoping Perry runs again and gets some traction this time – which I think he could. I could live with Rubio, but he’s not my top prospect.

DRayRaven on February 14, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Perry’s damaged goods for all eternity with his poor debate performances. You see, you have this illusion that others can start out with a clean slate.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:32 PM

ddrintn

Who ARE you?

avagreen on February 14, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Who are you?

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 2:22 PM

The “lesser evil” fallacy, along with a bunch of strawmen.

No one is refuting that the professional Left is the enemy; no one that is but the GOP. The point is that the Mitt Romneys and Marco Rubios and the rest of the Establishment simply don’t understand the war we’re in. They can’t either name the Left or fight the Left. Until this problem within this party is addressed, the war will never be fought, the enemy never engaged. Indeed, it will continue to be lost. The Left has got us exactly where they want us, exactly where 50 years of hard work to control the culture has put us both: on one hand a determined enemy who knows precisely how to destroy America and on the other a scared, clueless and collusive GOP terrified of any misstep the cultural Leftist overlords will use to defame them even further, unaware that the game is already rigged and their defamation is a foregone conclusion.

rrpjr on February 14, 2013 at 3:34 PM

That said, he is a charismatic spokesman, and I can see why he’s the early frontrunner –

DRayRaven on February 14, 2013 at 3:28 PM

By the way, I don’t think he’s all that charismatic or a riveting speaker. I don’t think Obama’s all that charismatic, either; he’s just traded on his racial background and appealed to the moonbats. As with Obama, quick, give me one whole line from one of Rubio’s speeches. Or anything memorable that he’s said beyond his immigrant parents. He’s the frontrunner because that’s the way the muckety-mucks want it. Rubio hasn’t been that much of a “darling” since the 2010 elections.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:36 PM

The “lesser evil” fallacy, along with a bunch of strawmen.

No one is refuting that the professional Left is the enemy; no one that is but the GOP. .

rrpjr on February 14, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Well, you see, when one of “their” guys comes under fire it’s time for unity and circling the wagons against those commies.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:38 PM

ddrintn

Who ARE you?

avagreen on February 14, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Who are you?

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:33 PM

I think my ID is pretty obvious, and I’m someone who is reading your posts, thinking you are an extremely angry, biased…..female who is new here or a retread that’s been banned or ignored in the past. Either way, you’re not doing Palin any favors by the way you are posting (said as a Palin supporter).

avagreen on February 14, 2013 at 3:39 PM

If they really feared Rubio, they wouldn’t be telling you they fear him a la Van Jones the other night. Man, they were terrified of Huntsman too.

Maybe you should look at what they do, not what they say.
Or maybe it’s Rubio’s message they fear (which is what I said in the first place). Either way.

Most likely it’s the message AND who’s delivering it.

How did it help her career? Getting in would have been more of an ego-boost and payola, win or lose.

Speaking engagements, a FoxNews gig, contributions to her PAC, a reality show, etc…all of which might have dried up if she weren’t a possible candidate for 2012.

Perry’s damaged goods for all eternity with his poor debate performances. You see, you have this illusion that others can start out with a clean slate.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Did you forget your sarc tag there?
If that were the case, Newt and Santorum would have never gained traction in 2012.

Perry wasn’t the best candidate in 2012, but he was the best potential President…by far. And a few good debate performances and a better campaign in 2016 could erase 2012.

DRayRaven on February 14, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Did you forget your sarc tag there?
If that were the case, Newt and Santorum would have never gained traction in 2012.

Perry wasn’t the best candidate in 2012, but he was the best potential President…by far. And a few good debate performances and a better campaign in 2016 could erase 2012.

DRayRaven on February 14, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Agreed. He was recovering from back surgery and on pain pills for the first two debates. And, as an acting government official helping fight the raging wildfires going on in Texas (something that no other candidate had to deal with). That, plus the idiot media that’s not willing to let him get a foot hold, including the talking heads on Fox who were in the bucket for Romney.

avagreen on February 14, 2013 at 3:42 PM

I think my ID is pretty obvious, and I’m someone who is reading your posts, thinking you are an extremely angry, biased…..female who is new here or a retread that’s been banned or ignored in the past. Either way, you’re not doing Palin any favors by the way you are posting (said as a Palin supporter).

avagreen on February 14, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Yeah, I’m pissed off. I’m a male, have been commenting here quite a while. Haven’t been banned yet. Rarely ignored, as you’ve demonstrated.

Did you forget your sarc tag there?
If that were the case, Newt and Santorum would have never gained traction in 2012.

Perry wasn’t the best candidate in 2012, but he was the best potential President…by far. And a few good debate performances and a better campaign in 2016 could erase 2012.

DRayRaven on February 14, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Just as I said. Perry can magically erase his abominable performance in 2012. No, he can’t. He imploded. He’s damaged goods. How good a president he would be is irrelevant.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:42 PM

who is new here or a retread that’s been banned or ignored in the past.

avagreen on February 14, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Actually ddrintn is a long time poster here. Don’t know the sex and I don’t care.

The opinion is what matters and if you want to make an argument regarding that you should proceed.

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Speaking engagements, a FoxNews gig, contributions to her PAC, a reality show, etc…all of which might have dried up if she weren’t a possible candidate for 2012.

DRayRaven on February 14, 2013 at 3:39 PM

BS!

Since Palin left FOX News she was invited to CPAC, and has a number of speaking engagements coming up.

Thanks for playing..:)

idesign on February 14, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Actually ddrintn is a long time poster here. Don’t know the sex and I don’t care.

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 3:43 PM

I’ve been called a male and a female. I feel like Ziggy friggin’ Stardust. LOL

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:45 PM

The media needs to wake up to the threat that rampant socialism poses to it before its too late. Right now, they work for Democrats on a voluntary basis…
Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 3:31 PM

As massively wrong as it gets. “The media” is comprised of the true believers, the ideologically endowed product of generations of elite Progressive education and cultural immersion. Their superiority — the great finesse they feel so proud to have pulled off and whose success enables them to believe in themselves as society’s transformational and regnant vanguard — is that they’ve been able to assume a high objectivity, beyond the politicians and the peasants. Their self-deception is only the generic and historic form of those who misunderstand what leftism actually is.

rrpjr on February 14, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Yeah, I’m pissed off. I’m a male, have been commenting here quite a while. Haven’t been banned yet. Rarely ignored, as you’ve demonstrated.
ddrintn

Well, so have I. Haven’t seen you before and I’m sure I wouldn’t have missed your compulsive posting as demonstrated here.

But, ignore you will be. I find your points useless to read, and think you are damaging Palin with them. Whenever a voter is stuck on one candidate and only one, to the point of disparaging anyone else……..their views aren’t trustworthy. Only rabid. Again, I’m saying this as a former Palin supporter.

avagreen on February 14, 2013 at 3:48 PM

rrpjr on February 14, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Making those kinds of distinctions aren’t a hill of beans when no candidate that socialist Democrats and their mouthpieces in the media perceive as a threat to their agenda is even allowed out of the gate. THAT’s the point.

It doesn’t matter if you think the GOP and Marco Rubio are “leftist”. What matters is that socialist Democrats don’t agree it’s so. Clearly, they wouldn’t be “palinizing” somebody they thought was on their own team. Rubio is obviously “other” in their view. What that should tell you is that no matter how acceptable you might think a candidate is… s/he would also be perceived as a threat and treated accordingly.

To allow them to keep this tool in their arsenal is to invite its use against you.

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 3:49 PM

Well, so have I. Haven’t seen you before and I’m sure I wouldn’t have missed your compulsive posting as demonstrated here.

But, ignore you will be. I find your points useless to read, and think you are damaging Palin with them. Whenever a voter is stuck on one candidate and only one, to the point of disparaging anyone else……..their views aren’t trustworthy. Only rabid. Again, I’m saying this as a former Palin supporter.

avagreen on February 14, 2013 at 3:48 PM

I don’t know who the hell you are, and don’t care. Ignore away.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Like I said earlier..Rubio will be fine..He blew this off by joking about it..He will be fine..:)

Dire Straits on February 14, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Exactly. The media needs to wake up to the threat that rampant socialism poses to it before its too late. Right now, they work for Democrats on a voluntary basis, believing themselves to be altruists or something. Soon enough, on the path we’re on, they’ll find themselves chained to the doghouse.

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 3:31 PM

They like the doghouse, Murf, since they own and control the doghouse. The goal is for us to organize, polarize, and pressure the media to reform or go broke so that we can own and control the doghouse and finish what McCarthy started.

He who controls the doghouse controls the national narrative.

Punchenko on February 14, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Again, I’m saying this as a former Palin supporter.

avagreen on February 14, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Bluegill is a ‘former palin supporter’ as well.

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Dire Straits on February 14, 2013 at 3:50 PM

I think he’s a comer. Don’t like the way he’s voted on some issues, but he’s far better than the (can’t think of a name that’s printable) in the WH.

avagreen on February 14, 2013 at 3:51 PM

But, ignore you will be. I find your points useless to read, and think you are damaging Palin with them. Whenever a voter is stuck on one candidate and only one, to the point of disparaging anyone else……..

avagreen on February 14, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Find wherever I’ve disparaged Scott Walker or Mike Pence or Jim DeMint. I smell astroturf. “As a lifelong conservative Christian GOP voter…”

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:52 PM

I think Snoopy at one point controlled the doghouse.

Punchenko on February 14, 2013 at 3:53 PM

said as a Palin supporter

avagreen on February 14, 2013 at 3:39 PM

I’m saying this as a former supporter

avagreen on February 14, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Well that didn’t take long…LOL

idesign on February 14, 2013 at 3:53 PM

To allow them to keep this tool in their arsenal is to invite its use against you.

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 3:49 PM

As Palin supporters you don’t have to tell us about what it means. You are the one who is now finding out what we tried to warn you about when Palin was the target.

You’re a day late and a dollar short.

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 3:54 PM

avagreen on February 14, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Yes he is a rising star with a lot of folks..Levin did a good interview with him last night..Worth a listen if you have not heard it..:)

PS..I agree 100% that he is far better than Obie..:)

Dire Straits on February 14, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Like I said earlier..Rubio will be fine..He blew this off by joking about it..He will be fine..:)

Dire Straits on February 14, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Cold comfort for Marco. You said that about Romney too.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:58 PM

Cold comfort for Marco. You said that about Romney too.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:58 PM

LOL

idesign on February 14, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Cold comfort for Marco. You said that about Romney too.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:58 PM

True..But a lot of folks that supported Romney missed that..We were wrong..:)

Dire Straits on February 14, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Cold comfort for Marco. You said that about Romney too.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 3:58 PM

True..But a lot of folks that supported Romney missed that..We were wrong..:)

Dire Straits on February 14, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Footnote:..I supported Romney after he WON the primary..:)

Dire Straits on February 14, 2013 at 4:03 PM

True..But a lot of folks that supported Romney missed that..We were wrong..:)

Dire Straits on February 14, 2013 at 4:01 PM

But a lot of folks who didn’t support Romney didn’t miss that. We weren’t wrong.

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 4:04 PM

True..But a lot of folks that supported Romney missed that..We were wrong..:)

Dire Straits on February 14, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Problem is, you make a habit of it. Those pom poms must block your vision.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Footnote:..I supported Romney after he WON the primary..:)

Dire Straits on February 14, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Another footnote: you’d support Geraldo Rivera if he won the GOP primary.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 4:05 PM

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Free country..Again what was your “prize” for being right???..:)

Dire Straits on February 14, 2013 at 4:06 PM

As massively wrong as it gets. “The media” is comprised of the true believers, the ideologically endowed product of generations of elite Progressive education and cultural immersion. Their superiority — the great finesse they feel so proud to have pulled off and whose success enables them to believe in themselves as society’s transformational and regnant vanguard — is that they’ve been able to assume a high objectivity, beyond the politicians and the peasants. Their self-deception is only the generic and historic form of those who misunderstand what leftism actually is.

rrpjr on February 14, 2013 at 3:45 PM

The “media” is actually comprised of corporations. They go where the profit is. Now, I’m not saying that they aren’t chock full of “true believers” who had a thorough academic brainwashing in our socialist monuments to higher education. What I am saying is that bottom lines are always bottom lines. You take the profit out of trotting out the leftist agenda and they’ll stop doing it quickly enough.

Problem is, that it’s not as easy as it sounds. “Low-information” voters don’t just happen, you know. Unless these media corporations wake up and SEE the threat to their bottom line, they’re going to be too late to stop it.

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Free country..Again what was your “prize” for being right???..:)

Dire Straits on February 14, 2013 at 4:06 PM

The “prize” is having some consistency and integrity.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM

I was really disappointed to see, just after Rubio’s response, that even Hotair felt the need to take a jab at him over the idiotic water bottle thing. So, HotAir, spare me the eye rolling at the rest of the press because you did the same thing.

kit9 on February 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Again what was your “prize” for being right???..:)

Dire Straits on February 14, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Same one you got.

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 4:04 PM

You are right I would have been a lot better off if I would have came on every Romney thread and bitched on moaned (Even after he won the GOP primary) and still voted for Romney like YOU did!!..That would have been a good play right??!!??..:)

Dire Straits on February 14, 2013 at 4:10 PM

The “media” is actually comprised of corporations. They go where the profit is.

Tell that to Hollywood that keeps making anti-American films that lose money while refusing to make pro-American war films that make money.

What I am saying is that bottom lines are always bottom lines. You take the profit out of trotting out the leftist agenda and they’ll stop doing it quickly enough.

Like Newsweek?

Unless these media corporations wake up and SEE the threat to their bottom line, they’re going to be too late to stop it.

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Do you really think that MSNBC doesn’t know what programs and reporting actually sells? They aren’t stupid, they are ideologues.

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 4:12 PM

But, ignore you will be. I find your points useless to read, and think you are damaging Palin with them. Whenever a voter is stuck on one candidate and only one, to the point of disparaging anyone else……..their views aren’t trustworthy. Only rabid. Again, I’m saying this as a former Palin supporter.

avagreen on February 14, 2013 at 3:48 PM

LOL, it just occured to me…could this be the advance scout for the Marcobot invasion, just as we had the Mittbot invasion in the fall of 2011?

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 4:13 PM

The “prize” is having some consistency and integrity.

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Funny you said you voted for Romney..Dosen’t sound like you were consistent to me..:)

PS..Thanks..But I’ll pass on your integrity..:)

Dire Straits on February 14, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Fox News responded by attacking a 102 year old woman who was forced to wait in 3 hour long lines because of Rick Scott’s policies. But poor Rubio or something.
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/14/fox-news-hosts-desiline-victor_n_2688111.html
 
libfreeordie on February 14, 2013 at 3:25 PM

 
Also written:
 
102 year old woman with specific language needs made the personal decision to go and wait on a busy day instead of one of the other early voting days:
 

Ms. Victor, a Haitian immigrant, went to vote to re-elect President Obama on Oct. 28, the first day of early voting in Florida. On that hot Sunday, she stood in line for three hours at her local library in North Miami, before a poll worker advised her to return later when lines would be shorter and she could get assistance in her native Haitian Creole language, which she did.
 
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/12/a-102-year-old-face-of-voting-delays-at-the-state-of-the-union/

 
But Rick Scott’s policies or something.

rogerb on February 14, 2013 at 4:21 PM

As Palin supporters you don’t have to tell us about what it means. You are the one who is now finding out what we tried to warn you about when Palin was the target.

You’re a day late and a dollar short.

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 3:54 PM

You understand that this kind of hysteria over Sarah Palin is creepy, right? In case you hadn’t noticed, she wasn’t even on the BALLOT in the last election. That was her choice and no one else’s.

Yeah. The left “palinized” her. And yeah, the GOP was too slow to recognize and neutralize the attack. But let’s not forget that she IS a Republican, that she came to national prominence by having been selected as a running mate by John McCain, who’s about as “establishment” as you can get. And yeah, she flamed out. She wasn’t forced out of office in Alaska. She quit. She wasn’t pushed out of the GOP primary, she chose not to run.

Again, it’s not the fault of the guy who notices that the damage is done. It’s the guy who did the damage. Either “palinizing” candidates is wrong, or it’s fair game. If it’s fair game, then what are you complaining about?

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Fox News responded by attacking a 102 year old woman who was forced to wait in 3 hour long lines because of Rick Scott’s policies. But poor Rubio or something.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/14/fox-news-hosts-desiline-victor_n_2688111.html

libfreeordie on February 14, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Did the old girl get to vote, liveasaslaveand die?

It would seem that she did.

So…what makes her a victim? Why should we pity her?

Solaratov on February 14, 2013 at 4:24 PM

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 4:04 PM

You are right the best play for me and others would have been like you and went on every Romney thread (even after he won the primary) and ran him down..That woud have been the wise play right??!!??.:)

Dire Straits on February 14, 2013 at 4:26 PM

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Didn’t Newsweek just stop their print edition because of lack of sales? And MSNBC might not be FoxNews… but they’ve got enough of a share to keep them in business so far by appealing to leftie viewers. When they can’t get enough market share to keep them going, they’ll either change tactics or close the doors just like any other business would.

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 4:27 PM

Rubio is using this himself for fund raising:

Rubio’s PAC, Reclaim America, is sending Marco Rubio water bottles to supporters who donate $25 or more to the cause — urging them to “send liberal detractors a message that not only does Marco Rubio inspire you … he hydrates you too.”

The Florida Republican tweeted to followers a link to purchase the bottle with “RUBIO” in bold red letters on the side with a message, “Quench your thirst for conservative leadership? Order a bottle.”

Quickly after the sip that went viral, Rubio made light of the situation by tweeting a photo of the water bottle in question and joking that next time he will use a straw. After picking up thousands of new followers on twitter, he tweeted “I’m going to start drinking #water in the middle of all of my speeches!”

Read more: http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2013/02/14/rubio-pac-offers-official-water-bottles-after-viral-water-break/?test=latestnews#ixzz2KuZ60n6Q

The media turns him into a punch line. And if you’re like most Americans too busy to devote hours of time to watch the State of the Union and its rebuttal, the news you got this morning portrayed Rubio as Cindy in the infamous spelling bee episode of the Brady Bunch (Cindy aces all tests in school until a red light on a camera during a televised contest freezes her beyond repair).

Poor impression made.

Mission accomplished.

I doubt it. I doubt if most people even watch this crap on morning news. Really. If they did not bother watching the SOTU what makes people think they are listening to this crap? My guess is most people think the whole subject is stupid. In fact, they might actually have more sympathy for Rubio because of it. After all, everyone gets thirsty.

Terrye on February 14, 2013 at 4:32 PM

You understand that this kind of hysteria over Sarah Palin is creepy, right?

It’s not hysteria Skippy. It’s learning from history and applying those lessons to the present and future. I am not just going to develop amnesia because you think some liberal Republicans need a hug.

Yeah. The left “palinized” her. And yeah, the GOP was too slow to recognize and neutralize the attack.

False.

The GOP wasn’t slow at all. They fed stories to the press almost immediately and being ‘slow’ would suggest that at some point in time they arrived, or even started out. They haven’t to this day.

Either “palinizing” candidates is wrong, or it’s fair game. If it’s fair game, then what are you complaining about?

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 4:22 PM

I am telling you that your little liberal Republicans can go pound sand. Your guys were fine with that when Palin and other conservatives were under fire, and now you expect that we should rally round the flag for them?

I have no interest in defending liberal policies regardless of who is pushing them.

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Joe Concha looks at the tone of the coverage across various networks and wonders how it’s come to this

Anyone who paid any attention to the response to Jindal’s response can’t have been surprised.

calbear on February 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Didn’t Newsweek just stop their print edition because of lack of sales?

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 4:27 PM

Yeah, that’s the point. They would rather go out of business than alter their leftist slant so the idea that the profit motive will change their behavior is simply not the case.

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 4:38 PM

She wasn’t forced out of office in Alaska. She quit.

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Spoken like moron you are..:)

idesign on February 14, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Spoken like the moron you are..:)

idesign on February 14, 2013 at 4:39 PM

LOL, it just occured to me…could this be the advance scout for the Marcobot invasion, just as we had the Mittbot invasion in the fall of 2011?

ddrintn on February 14, 2013 at 4:13 PM

Marcobot??..I didn’t know he was running??..One thing for sure is we can count on you to come on every Rubio thread and try to “mess” it up..:)

Dire Straits on February 14, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Spoken like the moron you are..:)

idesign on February 14, 2013 at 4:39 PM

Don’t you hate it when you do that?

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Don’t you hate it when you do that?

sharrukin on February 14, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Yep..:)

I could blame it on my IPad, but I was just posting to fast.

idesign on February 14, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Too…

Dang!

idesign on February 14, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Yep..:)

I could blame it on my IPad, but I was just posting to fast.

idesign on February 14, 2013 at 4:44 PM

It’s hard to believe that anybody could be in such a desperate hurry to insult someone who happens to disagree with them.
Are you guys SURE you’re not liberal socks? lolol

Murf76 on February 14, 2013 at 4:51 PM

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