Rand Paul: I might block Brennan’s nomination until he says whether a U.S. citizen can be targeted on U.S. soil
posted at 4:41 pm on February 13, 2013 by Allahpundit
Here’s his official statement, the basics of which he reiterated to USA Today in an interview. It’s interesting that killing Americans on American soil is where Paul draws the line, as he could have drawn it more restrictively. E.g., no drone strikes beyond Afghanistan, period; no drone strikes on American citizens, period; etc. This is another case, I think, of Rand trying to find a path that’s kinda sorta acceptable both to mainstream conservatives and to his dad’s base. (To be sure, he sent Brennan a letter a few weeks ago raising numerous questions about civil liberties, but this particular question is apparently the litmus test for whether a hold will be placed.) Good enough?
Paul said he would do “whatever it takes” to delay Brennan’s confirmation until he directly answers whether American citizens legally can be killed by drone strikes within the United States.
The Kentucky Republican accused Brennan of obfuscating on the issue when it was raised at confirmation hearings before the Senate Intelligence Committee last week. Rand on Sunday said he wouldn’t vote for Brennan until the questions were answered, but he raised the stakes in an interview with “Capital Download,” a weekly video series on usatoday.com.
“He was asked a very specific question. . . ‘Can you kill an American with a drone in America?’ And he refused to answer the question,” Paul said. “I find that very, very worrisome (and) we’re going to do whatever it takes to get the answer. Can the government, does the government, the president himself, claim the power to unilaterally kill an American in America without a trial?”
Harry Reid’s said he won’t honor holds placed by Republicans on Hagel’s nomination. Maybe he’ll honor one placed on Brennan on civil-liberties grounds since, in theory, his base cares about that. But … his base really doesn’t care much about that. So why wouldn’t Reid ignore Paul too?
Here’s the white paper on drones, in case you didn’t read it last week. The memo states on page three that it’s addressing only the legality of strikes carried out against Al Qaeda operatives on foreign soil, which isn’t the same thing as saying that strikes can’t be carried out here. In theory, any terrorist who’s inside the United States could be feasibly captured by U.S. law enforcement, which means one of the three criteria for a drone strike couldn’t be met. But feasibility is defined vaguely in the memo as something “highly fact-specific and potentially time-sensitive.” If the cops found out that a plot was in motion and somehow a Predator could get to the scene and intercept the bad guys before they could, then hypothetically capture might be “infeasible” and a strike would be in order. But look. For obvious reasons, turning the drone guns on citizens here at home would be extremely politically dangerous for any president, even one like The One who can count on a media cushion. Americans are sufficiently creeped out at the thought of being tracked by the eye in the sky that state and local governments have started passing laws banning surveillance drones. Imagine what the reaction would be to news of someone being incinerated on the highway by a Hellfire because the feds were worried about him. If it happened, the circumstances of the impending attack would need to be so dire and urgent that the president could reasonably expect he’d commended for taking action rather than vilified. And if I’m wrong, if Americans would actually acclimate fairly quickly to drone strikes as a semi-routine feature of counterterrorism here in the good ol’ U.S.A., then our problem is much bigger than worrying about whether we can get a straight answer from John Brennan or not. Maybe that’s why he’s silent on this, in fact — he suspects that, if push came to shove, he and O would have more public support for an attack of this sort than Paul thinks.
One other note. This line from Paul’s tea-party SOTU rebuttal last night jumped out at me:
“We cannot and will not allow any president to act as if he were a king,” Paul said. “We will not tolerate secret lists of American citizens who can be killed without trial.”
Won’t we? New from CBS:

That’s a bit apples-to-oranges insofar as the question doesn’t mention “secret” lists, and there’s no way to know for sure how many tea partiers agree with O’s policy versus Republicans generally. But O’s targeting list has been secret until now and he’s still pulling nearly 60 percent support among Republicans on this. Unless support among non-tea-party GOPers is stratospheric, it’s safe to assume that at least a sizable minority of tea-party Republicans is in favor too. I think this is more a case of Paul grafting Paulworld concerns onto the broader tea-party agenda than something he’s reading in the wider movement. But I don’t know. We need to see more polling.
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Because “I won”
GWB on May 16, 2013 at 3:07 PM
Smoke and mirrors.
antisocial on May 16, 2013 at 3:09 PM
The State Run Media will still love him in morning…
d1carter on May 16, 2013 at 3:12 PM
US Department of 57 States
burrata on May 16, 2013 at 3:13 PM
Well, it’s good to know that, in addition to Holder knowing next to nothing, the stuff he does know is totally wrong.
Dusty on May 16, 2013 at 3:23 PM
I recall all of the many leaks during the Bush years. Leaks that actually damaged national security on many occasions. Not to mention the dubious “leak” of Valery Plame by Armitage that was investigated by a special prosecutor.
I don’t recall on any of those occasions the media’s phone records being subpoenaed. I’m not saying it never happened, I just don’t recall ever hearing about it happening.
This seems like a fairly trivial leak in comparison (a leak about a victory that everyone knew was going to be announced by the WH anyway). In fact, this seems like the kind of routine leaking we see in DC all of the time.
So to claim this requires the subpoenaing of all the AP’s phone records defies credibility. The motive here is clear – to get the press back in line and show them who is boss.
You watch. There will never be any real investigation into who the leaker was and it will all be dropped – despite telling us how important it is to national security that this happen in the first place.
Monkeytoe on May 16, 2013 at 3:45 PM
The Ohio State University
dominigan on May 16, 2013 at 4:02 PM
The answer is simple – The AP used a narrative that did not jive with Team SCOAMT’s assertions that Al Qaeda was dead along with Osama bin Laden. As for the delays, the delay in investigating was because Team SCOAMT needed the AP on board the Presstitute Organ Train until after the election, and the further delay in telling the AP it was being investigated is the Chitcago Way.
Steve Eggleston on May 16, 2013 at 4:07 PM
Had they still called it an Al Qeada plot timed to “commemorate” bin Laden’s killing, you’re damn right they would have still been investigated.
Steve Eggleston on May 16, 2013 at 4:11 PM
Sheesh, I was saying yesterday that this looked like retaliation for not playing ball and sacrificing a scoop to Obama’s propaganda machine. That is the way Barry and Eric and David roll.
novaculus on May 16, 2013 at 4:12 PM
They were trading hummus recipes?
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 4:15 PM
The timing is interesting… just a few hours before the attack was the meeting with the Turkish Minister.
Makes you wonder what he learned during that meeting.
A suspicious mind might almost start thinking that the entire ‘terrorist attack’ was a hit job: no follow-up to get the obvious terrorists at coffee houses months afterwards, no indictments from the lovely FBI, no reprisals against the group that did it. A very suspicious mind might just think that Amb. Stevens was set-up to be killed for what he knew that the Administration didn’t want getting out.
It is the Chicago Way, after all.
ajacksonian on May 16, 2013 at 4:23 PM
If all of that is about the AP not giving the WH its moment in the sun to brag… then they really are petty children.
Karmashock on May 16, 2013 at 4:24 PM
Consider that perhaps the story about the leak of this al Qaeda plot justifying this seizure of phone records is a complete lie. It was a convenient justification that they thought no one would question.
It sounds bizarre, but it’s a very simple explanation, and given the mendacity of this administration it’s very believable.
So what were they really looking for with such a broad and deep seizure of records? What was going on in that period of time that the administration wanted so badly to know about?
slickwillie2001 on May 16, 2013 at 4:32 PM
Do we really want to buy the administration’s line that this was about national security and a foiled terror plot? They lied and lied and lied about Benghazi being sparked by a YouTube video, so why would they tell us the truth about this. Look deeper. What information were they really after?
bitsy on May 16, 2013 at 4:54 PM
My vote is Valerie Jarrett. The AP & IRS scandals have her stench all over them.
MississippiMom on May 16, 2013 at 5:41 PM
Rep. Louie Gohmert on the AP scandal, finally someone has said what needs to be said:
When there is a tyrannical despot the media will be one of the early victims
Axion on May 16, 2013 at 5:44 PM
this press really is like a battered wife. they keep going back. currently they are running stories claiming an “angry 0bama fires head of IRS” when its been well known since last nite the guy was leaving next month anyway.
chasdal on May 16, 2013 at 5:45 PM
Does anybody believe a word that Eric Holder says..?
d1carter on May 16, 2013 at 6:29 PM
Wonder if the lsm is worried about what a real investigation would be like if they actually leaked a real serious top two in Holder’s view kinda leak? Since he doesn’t seem to spend a lot of time behind his desk, how would he know if there was a top two in his lifetime kinda leak that had been leaked anyways? Oh, yeah, he could find out by watching CNN.
Kissmygrits on May 16, 2013 at 6:42 PM
The AP was being the lap dogs by holding the story but they got too excited about the story and a victory for there master of a failed plot, that they peed on the lap.
tjexcite on May 16, 2013 at 6:45 PM
Fifty thousand IRS thugs cannot enforce a law that one hundred million people simply refuse to obey….especially if that one hundred million have guns. Apologies to Gandhi or whoever first came up with that.
Oldnuke on May 16, 2013 at 7:36 PM
Lap dogs get eaten first in this Administration.
You don’t have to chase them.
ajacksonian on May 16, 2013 at 8:45 PM
I was wondering if I was too cynical when I think they really did not care so much about the leaker as they were interested in what conversations they were having with congress people? Glad to see I am not the only one.
KW64 on May 16, 2013 at 8:46 PM
We all know the National Security Card was played to cover the real reason they were tapping the AP. They wanted to know what the AP was investigating. Chavez might have died but his spirit lives on in the man we know as Obama.
James on May 16, 2013 at 9:19 PM
I’ve decided that from here on I will refer to the AG as Epic Hodor. He is one of the supporting characters in Obama’s #GameOfScandals.
CitizenEgg on May 17, 2013 at 7:00 AM
At the heart of all the emerging ‘scandals’ – IRS targeting specific groups, secret AP phone records, Benghazi cover-up, and who knows what else might come to light – is this:
Obama’s ambition, to win a second term presidency, not on his own merit. Just like his winning the first term, nothing he has done deserves ‘the prize’.
ALL of the scandals (so far) can be traced back to Obama himself.
Sir Napsalot on May 17, 2013 at 7:57 AM
Seeing those two twits pictured together, I can understand how some could go “racist”.
SpiderMike on May 18, 2013 at 11:26 AM
If I’m the AP, I have my interns call every number at State, Defense, Justice, and CIA twice a day from here on out to provide cover.
goatweed on May 19, 2013 at 9:15 AM
Or is that concealment? Can’t keep them straight.
goatweed on May 19, 2013 at 9:16 AM
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