Investigators remove body from Big Bear house after firefight; Update: AP: Driver’s license found at scene

posted at 10:01 am on February 13, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

After a couple of false alarms, San Bernardino County law enforcement believed they found the most-wanted man in America — the cop-turned-serial-killer Christopher Dorner.  After a traffic stop turned into a gunfight, the suspect retreated into a cabin in Big Bear, a remote resort town in the mountains that is known for its winter sports rather than police standoffs.  One deputy got killed and another wounded in the initial fight, and hours later the cabin burst into flames.  Investigators hauled out the charred remains of the suspect, whom they hope to identify — fast:

After what LAPD Chief Charlie Beck called “a bittersweet night,” investigators Wednesday were in the process of identifying the human remains found in the charred cabin where fugitive ex-cop Christopher Dorner was believed to have been holed up after trading gunfire with officers, authorities said.

If the body is identified as Dorner’s, the standoff would end a weeklong manhunt for the ex-LAPD officer and Navy Reserve lieutenant suspected in a string of shootings following his firing by the Los Angeles Police Department several years ago. Four people have died in the case, allegedly at Dorner’s hands.

Beck said he would not consider the manhunt over until the body was identified as Dorner. Police remained on tactical alert and were conducting themselves as if nothing had changed in the case, officials said.

The latest burst of gunfire came Tuesday after the suspect, attempting to flee law enforcement officials, fatally shot a San Bernardino County sheriff’s deputy and seriously injured another, officials said. He then barricaded himself in a wooden cabin outside Big Bear, not far from ski resorts in the snow-capped San Bernardino Mountains east of Los Angeles, according to police.

Given the circumstances and Dorner’s publicized manifesto, law enforcement assumed that negotiations would be fruitless.  Instead, they worked on eliminating the gunman’s cover, and weren’t messing around, either:

Just before 5 p.m., authorities smashed the cabin’s windows, pumped in tear gas and called for the suspect to surrender, officials said. They got no response. Then, using a demolition vehicle, they tore down the cabin’s walls one by one. When they reached the last wall, they heard a gunshot. Then the cabin burst into flames, officials said.

Initially, the suspect took two maids hostage, but they managed to slip out of their bonds and call 9/11 after he had left:

The discovery of a man who police believe to be Christopher Dorner began when two maids ran into him Tuesday morning as they arrived to clean a vacant cabin in the Big Bear area near where the fugitive ex-cop’s car was set ablaze last week.

The two maids entered a cabin in the 1200 block of Club View Drive, close to Snow Summit and Bear Mountain Resort, and surprised a man who they said resembled the fugitive, a law enforcement official said. The man tied up the maids, and then took off in a purple Nissan parked near the cabin, authorities said.

One of the maids was eventually able to break free and called 911 at 12:20 p.m., officials said.

Nearly half an hour later, the suspect was allegedly driving on California 38 when he passed a marked vehicle driven by the agency’s law enforcement officers.

They recognized the suspect as he passed and swung their vehicle around in pursuit.

The suspect attempted to evade them by turning off onto Glass Road, and at some point crashed and abandoned the small car.

He tried carjacking another vehicle to get away, allowing the driver to leave with his dog.  Apparently, he hoped that the change in vehicle would allow him to get away. No such luck:

He then sped off in the Dodge extended-cab pickup — and quickly encountered two Department of Fish and Wildlife trucks.

As the suspect zoomed past the officers, he rolled down his window and fired about 15 to 20 rounds. One of the officers jumped out and shot a high-powered rifle at the fleeing truck.

The suspect subsequently crashed that truck and ran into the woods. He ended up in a cabin.

More bad luck for the suspect — the game warden was a former Marine:

The pursuit culminated in what officials described as a wild shootout between the man and one of the wardens. The suspect rolled down his window and opened fire into the approaching Fish and Wildlife truck as the vehicles passed just two feet apart, officials said. The shots shattered the driver’s side window and damaged the state truck.

The warden, a 35-year-old former Marine, jumped out and fired 20 rounds from a high-powered rifle as the suspect fled in a hijacked truck, officials said.

Sources said the warden, who has been with the department for 2 1/2 years, had never fired his weapon in the line of duty, nor had he ever been fired on in his state job.

 
They had better hope this was Chris Dorner, although the carjacking and gunfight certainly justifies the actions taken in this standoff either way. They just don’t want to have to do this all over again.

Speaking of which, this CBS reporter probably hopes he never has to cover a story like this quite so closely, either:

Update: The AP reports that Dorner’s driver’s license was found on the scene:

The search ended Tuesday when a man believed to be Dorner bolted from hiding, stole two cars, barricaded himself in a vacant cabin and mounted a last stand in a furious shootout in which he killed one sheriff’s deputy and wounded another before the building erupted in flames.

He never emerged from the ruins and hours later a charred body was found in the basement of the burned cabin along with a wallet and personal items, including a California driver’s license with the name Christopher Dorner, an official briefed on the investigation told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.

If this is true, then it’s all but confirmed.


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The Left is upset.

It’s their Waco.

Should’ve used a drone.

Ben Hur on February 13, 2013 at 10:07 AM

I don’t know what the killer-supporters can hang their hat on. This wasn’t even his house. He’d just killed one cop and wounded another. He could have just walked out the front door with his arms raised. He knows the drill.

Paul-Cincy on February 13, 2013 at 10:07 AM

They will say it is Dorner, sure.

But the truth is that Dorner made a clean getaway and is currently holed up with Tupac near Cabo.

CorporatePiggy on February 13, 2013 at 10:10 AM

They had better hope this was Chris Dorner

No kidding. This potentially has the Tooth Fairy from Red Dragon written all over it.

Doughboy on February 13, 2013 at 10:10 AM

I don’t know what the killer-supporters can hang their hat on.
Paul-Cincy on February 13, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Killer cops; execution; racism; civil-rights violation; excessive force; etc.

We know the drill. Expect a rapid influx of trolls, too.

Liam on February 13, 2013 at 10:10 AM

The Left is upset.

It’s their Waco.

Ben Hur on February 13, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Yep. Except their martyr is a known cop-killer instead of a religious fruitcake who just wanted to be left alone.

MelonCollie on February 13, 2013 at 10:12 AM

The Depraved, Ghoulish Left Cheers On Dorner As Shootout Continues…Dead? Time To Riot?

I’ve added a bunch of tweets since yesterday afternoon.

Resist We Much on February 13, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Just curious; will the people previously stating “we are all Chris Dorner now” or waxing poetically about supporting him now follow the example he set for them?

If so, we should prepare our communities for mass Jonestown like occurrences.

Marcus Traianus on February 13, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Liam beat me to it.

D-fusit on February 13, 2013 at 10:14 AM

I’m sure this will become all about the racist LAPD . This murderer will always be a martyr to his fellow lefty nutbags that believe every slight or perceived grievance by whitey against a protected minority justifies any and all forms of retribution .

DeweyWins on February 13, 2013 at 10:15 AM

In a way I am upset about this news, but only because I would have wanted him captured alive so that he could have been made to suffer over years and years. I support the death penalty, but don’t think the method of administering death should be a painless and quick process, especially not for killers like this.

Rot in hell, you evil, cold-blooded killer of innocents!

RIP Monica Quan, Keith Lawrence, Michael Crain and the deputy killed yesterday.

bluegill on February 13, 2013 at 10:16 AM

The cops fired tear grenades into the house and then dropped napalm on it, and all because the guy was black.

Armin T. and tphilli have corroborated this information through sources on crazierthanarabidmonkey.com

Bishop on February 13, 2013 at 10:16 AM

I guess Ben Richards didn’t escape in time to clear his name, this time around.

Wino on February 13, 2013 at 10:16 AM

The AP reports that Dorner’s driver’s license was found on the scene:

Well, the Newtown killer had his brother’s license, so I’m going to wait for the dental records.

rbj on February 13, 2013 at 10:17 AM

RIP Monica Quan, Keith Lawrence, Michael Crain and the deputy killed yesterday.

bluegill on February 13, 2013 at 10:16 AM

The deputy killed by Dorner last night had just become a new father. I believe his name was Gonzalez, and his widow’s first name is Christiana.

Liam on February 13, 2013 at 10:18 AM

The fact this guy took revenge on someone’s daughter makes him lower than scum.

Oil Can on February 13, 2013 at 10:20 AM

In an age of Oprah, online forums and a media largely sympathetic to these types of issues, Dorner had many choices.

Instead, he chose to murder innocent people. That’s not rational or righteous. It’s sickening, hideous, ignorant and premeditated murder.

If that is someone’s idea of a hero, we should all voice our absolute, intellectually grounded disgust.

Marcus Traianus on February 13, 2013 at 10:20 AM

The AP reports that Dorner’s driver’s license was found on the scene:

Well, the Newtown killer had his brother’s license, so I’m going to wait for the dental records.

rbj on February 13, 2013 at 10:17 AM

Yup. The media doesn’t exactly have a stellar record on these things.

whatcat on February 13, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Thank God they burned him alive rather than water boarding him.

trs on February 13, 2013 at 10:22 AM

You reap what you sow.

kingsjester on February 13, 2013 at 10:23 AM

“And hours later the cabin burst into flames”. Uh no Ed. Hours later they set the cabin on fire. If you were listening to the scanner they were talking about setting off a burner right before the fire started andbthebcops were chanting “burn this motherf$%$$%” down”. There are a ton of videos on YouTube with recordings of this. Don’t sanitize what happened.

thphilli on February 13, 2013 at 10:23 AM

The same leftist trash that beat their chests and tore their clothes and demanded gun confiscation after Sandy Hook, are now hailing a cop killing murderer as the new Robin Hood.

Disgusting

Kuffar on February 13, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Don’t sanitize what happened.

thphilli on February 13, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Now, that’s funny.

He killed innocent people…and you are worshiping him.

Hypocrite.

kingsjester on February 13, 2013 at 10:24 AM

All the gunfire sounds like NYE in LA — no joke.

Blake on February 13, 2013 at 10:27 AM

what do you all think about the LAPD burning the place to the ground? That was their intent. I mean, I can see killing the guy, forcing him out, but they wanted to burn the place down and,…..it wasn’t Dorner’s property. Just collateral damage???? no biggie? I mean, he was surrounded and had no escape. They couldn’t put him under siege–they had to burn someone’s cabin down on purpose?

ted c on February 13, 2013 at 10:27 AM

kingsjester on February 13, 2013 at 10:24 AM

No you inbred piece of garbage. He deserved to die, but the police burning aan possibly alive is utterly ridiculous. You are innocent until proven guilty in this country. This isn’t goddamn Syria you monster.

thphilli on February 13, 2013 at 10:27 AM

“And hours later the cabin burst into flames”. Uh no Ed. Hours later they set the cabin on fire. If you were listening to the scanner they were talking about setting off a burner right before the fire started andbthebcops were chanting “burn this motherf$%$$%” down”. There are a ton of videos on YouTube with recordings of this. Don’t sanitize what happened.

thphilli on February 13, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Uh-huh. Sure.

Bitter Clinger on February 13, 2013 at 10:28 AM

Don’t sanitize what happened.

thphilli on February 13, 2013 at 10:23 AM

He murdered in cold blood two innocent people, and two LEO’s.

Follow your own advice, Jackwagon.

Shepherd Lover on February 13, 2013 at 10:28 AM

The Left is upset.

It’s their Waco.

Should’ve used a drone.

Ben Hur on February 13, 2013 at 10:07 AM

you mean their second Waco?

ted c on February 13, 2013 at 10:28 AM

Bitter Clinger on February 13, 2013 at 10:28 AM

So you are fine with the police burning a man alive. . . . Says a lot about how authoritarian you are.

thphilli on February 13, 2013 at 10:30 AM

thphilli on February 13, 2013 at 10:23 AM

“Burner” is slang for tear gas canisters.

Wait…you thought it meant white phosphorous, didn’t you?

Bishop on February 13, 2013 at 10:30 AM

No you inbred piece of garbage. He deserved to die, but the police burning aan possibly alive is utterly ridiculous. You are innocent until proven guilty in this country. This isn’t goddamn Syria you monster.

thphilli on February 13, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Where is your sympathy for the officer who will miss out on his child growing up. Or, the young black couple, with their whole lives ahead of them?

Hypocrite.

Get the log out of your own eye, first.

kingsjester on February 13, 2013 at 10:30 AM

Reporter:
“We got word that Doner had been sighted”……..
…………”at that point..we decided to follow authorities and we rolled up on that cabin…we had no idea what we would be coming up on”…..

So genius here has no idea what he will be “rolling up on” following the police in one of the biggest manhunts in our history, of a guy heavily armed and already responsible for multiple murders and other shootings.

No sane person believes that and should have no doubt that this was an incredible display of recklessness by the press to inject themselves into a live,dangerous situation where just a few seconds of distraction by the police to have to watch over these idiots could have gotten them killed.

What a complete dumba$$!!!

Baxter Greene on February 13, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Show of hands of anyone who thought they’d actually take the guy alive . . .

Sven Pook on February 13, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Those on the Left who were cheering this scum as he went about killing people is the same Left that’s against the death penalty. So killing someone after a defense, jury, and judge is wrong, but a thug killing people, acting as judge jury and executioner, is “fighting the power” and totally justifiable? got it.

Weight of Glory on February 13, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Speaking of which, this CBS reporter probably hopes he never has to cover a story like this quite so closely, either

I don’t have much sympathy for a “reporter” who essentially gets in the way of law enforcement operations.

Happy Nomad on February 13, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Considering they allowed the house to burn to the ground…that was one tough driver’s license.

trs on February 13, 2013 at 10:31 AM

chanting “burn this motherf$%$$%” down”. There are a ton of videos on YouTube with recordings of this. Don’t sanitize what happened.

thphilli on February 13, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Could you link to one of that ton of videos because that would be sorta entertaining to watch.

sharrukin on February 13, 2013 at 10:33 AM

So you are fine with the police burning a man alive. . . . Says a lot about how authoritarian you are.

thphilli on February 13, 2013 at 10:30 AM

He could leave the cabin. Go to Hell.

rbj on February 13, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Considering they allowed the house to burn to the ground…that was one tough driver’s license.

trs on February 13, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Reminds me of that old joke about building planes using whatever the Black Box is made of because the box always manages to survive a crash.

Bishop on February 13, 2013 at 10:34 AM

No you inbred piece of garbage. He deserved to die, but the police burning aan possibly alive is utterly ridiculous. You are innocent until proven guilty in this country. This isn’t goddamn Syria you monster.

thphilli on February 13, 2013 at 10:27 AM

…of course not ….it’s America where citizens can be targeted and killed without credible oversight simply because the President feels they are a threat.

…get with the program…embrace progressiveness…..Obama’s in charge…it’s all good.

Baxter Greene on February 13, 2013 at 10:35 AM

If someone heavily armed refuses to be taken alive, exactly how do you rocket scientists think the police can do so?

Blake on February 13, 2013 at 10:35 AM

I wonder if they will burn the officers alive that shot the three innocent people when they were looking for Dorner?

trs on February 13, 2013 at 10:35 AM

No you inbred piece of garbage.

thphilli on February 13, 2013 at 10:27 AM

You should be banned, but besides that, the killer had a chance to surrender from the cabin before, during, and after the fire started, whoever started it. It wasn’t even his cabin. He kidnapped 2 people, stole a car, killed a peace officer, shot at others, and was given hours to surrender. Besides killing 3 before that. They treated him with a lot more care and concern than you show for your fellow HotGasians. If you had the humanity of the officers who surrounded the cabin, you’d be a lot better off.

Paul-Cincy on February 13, 2013 at 10:35 AM

I think he never expected to survive this, so it’s too bad he essentially got what he wanted and won’t have to truly pay for his actions. But the upside is that we’re spared a lengthy trial and mobs of complete idiots outside the courthouse every day with “Free Dorner” signs. And at the very least, the people on his hit list can finally exhale.

SnarkVader on February 13, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Those on the Left who were cheering this scum as he went about killing people is the same Left that’s against the death penalty.

Weight of Glory on February 13, 2013 at 10:31 AM

I’m waiting for Jesse Jackson (the father not the convicted criminal) or Al Sharpton to suggest that the police acted the way they did because the suspect was a black man. That those white police officers wouldn’t have done what they did were it a white suspect.

Mark my words, it is going to happen if it has not already.

Happy Nomad on February 13, 2013 at 10:37 AM

If someone heavily armed refuses to be taken alive, exactly how do you rocket scientists think the police can do so?

Blake on February 13, 2013 at 10:35 AM

They could have left two of them outside the cabin with a tent until he came out. Nobody said he had to be taken within the next 2 hours. What the police ended up doing was exactly what Dorner was ranting about…the irony is so thick.

trs on February 13, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Look at all the raving lunatics and their imagination gone wild (as usual) trying to invent support from left for Dorner.

lester on February 13, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Considering they allowed the house to burn to the ground…that was one tough driver’s license.

trs on February 13, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Exactly….
……..that is going to be like rocket fuel to the conspiracy/defend Doner crowd.

Baxter Greene on February 13, 2013 at 10:37 AM

With respect , Ed, there’s a typo in the post. The maids would have called 911. I don’t know how anyone can call 9/11 without a time travel device.

pendell2 on February 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM

The Left is upset.

It’s their Waco.

Should’ve used a drone.

Ben Hur on February 13, 2013 at 10:07 AM

you mean their second Waco?

ted c on February 13, 2013 at 10:28 AM

Exactly. I don’t remember the original Waco as being a right-wing thing.

joejm65 on February 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM

Mark my words, it is going to happen if it has not already.

Happy Nomad on February 13, 2013 at 10:37 AM

no doubt.

Weight of Glory on February 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM

Shooting at police risks an all-bets-are-off situation for the criminal. From what I understand, the cops waited hours before firing the CS.

Last night, on another thread, one well-known and especially obnoxious troll warned we pro-Second people that this sort of thing will happen to all of us if we resist confiscation of our firearms.

Makes me wonder what the bleeding-heart pro-crime Left holds as ‘moral’ and ‘virtuous’.

Liam on February 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM

They could have left two of them outside the cabin with a tent until he came out. Nobody said he had to be taken within the next 2 hours. What the police ended up doing was exactly what Dorner was ranting about…the irony is so thick.

trs on February 13, 2013 at 10:37 AM

ROFL

Bishop on February 13, 2013 at 10:39 AM

Look at all the raving lunatics and their imagination gone wild (as usual) trying to invent support from left for Dorner.

lester on February 13, 2013 at 10:37 AM

idiot…
We don’t have to “invent” what Huffpo/daily Kos/democratic underground have proudly dispensed from their “Occupy Wall St.” followers.

Baxter Greene on February 13, 2013 at 10:39 AM

They could have left two of them outside the cabin with a tent until he came out. Nobody said he had to be taken within the next 2 hours. What the police ended up doing was exactly what Dorner was ranting about…the irony is so thick.

trs on February 13, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Why not just get on a bullhorn and yell “olly olly oxen free?” I’m sure that would have been just as effective as leaving a couple people outside the cabin.

Are you really that stupid?

Happy Nomad on February 13, 2013 at 10:39 AM

While we still don’t have the autopsy report, by all appearances, he shot himself. It was his choice. He could have surrendered at any time but he chose to commit suicide. So enough of this crap that he was burned alive.

Blake on February 13, 2013 at 10:40 AM

The warden, a 35-year-old former Marine, jumped out and fired 20 rounds from a high-powered rifle as the suspect fled in a hijacked truck, officials said.

Wait a minute; a GAME WARDEN had one of those evil assault rifle with high capacity magazines??? There is NEVER a need for such!

michaelo on February 13, 2013 at 10:40 AM

If this guy had a job this probably wouldn’t have happened.

In case you wanted to know what they’d say if we had a Republican President…..

Wagthatdog on February 13, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Speaking of which, this CBS reporter probably hopes he never has to cover a story like this quite so closely, either

yeah really…. such a vocal and violent leftie really harshes the MSM meme that all violence like this is a right wing phenomenon…..

ted c on February 13, 2013 at 10:41 AM

No you inbred piece of garbage. He deserved to die, but the police burning aan possibly alive is utterly ridiculous. You are innocent until proven guilty in this country. This isn’t goddamn Syria you monster.

thphilli on February 13, 2013 at 10:27 AM

CLASSIC Libiot think, like he was never given an opportunity to surrender and face his accusers in the criminal justice system he knew well…pathetic…

hillsoftx on February 13, 2013 at 10:41 AM

“And hours later the cabin burst into flames”. Uh no Ed. Hours later they set the cabin on fire. If you were listening to the scanner they were talking about setting off a burner right before the fire started andbthebcops were chanting “burn this motherf$%$$%” down”. There are a ton of videos on YouTube with recordings of this. Don’t sanitize what happened.

thphilli on February 13, 2013 at 10:23 AM

READ the story !

They TORE the house down first. Wall by wall.
Then as they were getting ready to deploy the gas, they heard a single shot from the basement.
Then the fire.
Dude was dead before the fire.

Jabberwock on February 13, 2013 at 10:42 AM

Of all of these the one that stuck with me and made me fear the left for good was Elian Gonzalez.

tomas on February 13, 2013 at 10:42 AM

Wait a minute; a GAME WARDEN had one of those evil assault rifle with high capacity magazines??? There is NEVER a need for such!

michaelo on February 13, 2013 at 10:40 AM

it’s Big Bear Mountain……/

ted c on February 13, 2013 at 10:42 AM

ted c on February 13, 2013 at 10:27 AM

The reporters said that this had to end by sundown. Presumably so that it would not mess with Lord Barky’s SOTU travesty.

You can’t imagine him saying, “My Fellow Americans the union is strong except we seem to have a slight problem with some deranged brother who is killing LAPD. Shout out to Dorner – Salaam Aleykum brother.”

CorporatePiggy on February 13, 2013 at 10:43 AM

They could have left two of them outside the cabin with a tent until he came out. Nobody said he had to be taken within the next 2 hours. What the police ended up doing was exactly what Dorner was ranting about…the irony is so thick.

trs on February 13, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Are you crazy? Two cops with a tent? Bwahhhhhh! So, really you wanted him to escape and murder more innocent people.

Again, Dorner refused to surrender and instead chose to commit suicide.

Blake on February 13, 2013 at 10:43 AM

trs on February 13, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Why not just get on a bullhorn and yell “olly olly oxen free?” I’m sure that would have been just as effective as leaving a couple people outside the cabin.

Are you really that stupid?

Happy Nomad on February 13, 2013 at 10:39 AM

Yes, he is.

arnold ziffel on February 13, 2013 at 10:43 AM

They could have left two of them outside the cabin with a tent until he came out. Nobody said he had to be taken within the next 2 hours. What the police ended up doing was exactly what Dorner was ranting about…the irony is so thick.

trs on February 13, 2013 at 10:37 AM

IN A TENT? TWO OF THEM? Tell me you are enjoying the 7th grade..

hillsoftx on February 13, 2013 at 10:44 AM

You are innocent until proven guilty in this country.

thphilli on February 13, 2013 at 10:27 AM

You think that he was innocent of the killings?? If so, you’re delusional.
How about Hasan in the Ft. Hood murders? Is it valid to claim that he is just “accused” of them?

Mimzey on February 13, 2013 at 10:44 AM

Everybody knew this wasn’t going to end well. Everybody knew he was going to go down taking as many lives as he could. With that in mind, I think law enforcement did what they had to do to stop him from killing again. They knew he’d come too far to turn himself in and they weren’t about to give him the chance to come out blazing. Bye bye, cop killer.

scalleywag on February 13, 2013 at 10:45 AM

The reporters said that this had to end by sundown.
CorporatePiggy on February 13, 2013 at 10:43 AM

Why? Waco carried on for what? 45-50 days?? What was the rush? Did they not want to talk to the guy about the investigation that they just reopened for him????? Why reopen the investigation if they were just planning on killing him anyway?

ted c on February 13, 2013 at 10:46 AM

He deserved to die,

You are innocent until proven guilty in this country.

thphilli on February 13, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Then why did he deserve to die?

Bishop on February 13, 2013 at 10:47 AM

I wonder if they will burn the officers alive that shot the three innocent people when they were looking for Dorner?

trs on February 13, 2013 at 10:35 AM

We know liberals would love to see that…whether it’s the cops that over reacted or a Forest Ranger putting his life on the line to protect the public…..
………….the left would cheer the “burning” of the officers while making Doner a hero…
……….just like Mumia
…………………just like Bill Ayers and Berandine Dorn
………………………………..and just like Charles Manson.

All “victims” of the man and brave heroes to the “smartest people in the room”.

Maybe the Occupy crowd could take up the “fork salute” for Doner like they did in the 70′s to show solidarity with Manson……you know….”sticking it to the man”

Baxter Greene on February 13, 2013 at 10:47 AM

While we still don’t have the autopsy report, by all appearances, he shot himself. It was his choice. He could have surrendered at any time but he chose to commit suicide. So enough of this crap that he was burned alive.

Blake on February 13, 2013 at 10:40 AM

I hate to say it so bluntly but I really don’t care if he was burned alive or not. And it doesn’t really matter if they got the cop-turned-serial-killer or some other guy.

The tactical situation was pretty clear. The cabin was surrounded and they were literally tearing down walls. This was all after a shoot-out, kidnapping, and deployment of tear gas. In short, it isn’t as if he wasn’t given the opportunity to surrender.

Ambassador Chris Stevens had less of a chance of survival than whomever was in that cabin.

Happy Nomad on February 13, 2013 at 10:48 AM

Again, Dorner refused to surrender and instead chose to commit suicide.

Blake on February 13, 2013 at 10:43 AM

With all the video and real-time reporting, we may actually get an accurate timeline out of all this. I’m so sorry it will hurt the feelings of the reality-challenged, conspiracy-minded.

/we are all guilty, says the Left

Paul-Cincy on February 13, 2013 at 10:48 AM

While we still don’t have the autopsy report, by all appearances, he shot himself. It was his choice. He could have surrendered at any time but he chose to commit suicide. So enough of this crap that he was burned alive.

Blake on February 13, 2013 at 10:40 AM

By all appearences, he shot himself? I missed the story about the self-inflicted gunshot wound. Was it to the head? The heart? He stated in his note that they should study his brain, so heart, then, right? Links to suicide story?

ROCnPhilly on February 13, 2013 at 10:48 AM

Anybody got a photo of the demolition vehicle? I want one!

Blake on February 13, 2013 at 10:48 AM

Surprised Obama did not nuke the cabin with one of his drones…

albill on February 13, 2013 at 10:48 AM

Murder committed on live TV after trying to gag the media, praised by statists and authoritarian sheep. Nothing surprises me on this site anymore.

mythicknight on February 13, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Is it right and proper for the LAPD, who have exactly NO jurisdiction in San Bernardino county, to serve as executioners for this guy with such brazen “Burn this motherf***er to the ground?” I’m not defending Dorner, but is any modicum of professionalism in order? Who’s house gets burned next???

ted c on February 13, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Didn’t take long for a clown to show up and try to make this all about evil cops.

farsighted on February 13, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Murder committed on live TV after trying to gag the media, praised by statists and authoritarian sheep. Nothing surprises me on this site anymore.

mythicknight on February 13, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Good. Then, leave.

kingsjester on February 13, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Look at all the raving lunatics and their imagination gone wild (as usual) trying to invent support from left for Dorner.

lester on February 13, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Truth hurts. Don’t embarrass yourself further by trying to deny it. While certainly most Obama voters don’t support a maniac like Dorner the fact remains that if you polled Team Dorner (yeah, that’s a real thing) you’d find that if they voted at all it was for Obama. They and you should be ashamed of it.

cicerone on February 13, 2013 at 10:50 AM

He deserved to die,

You are innocent until proven guilty in this country.

thphilli on February 13, 2013 at 10:27 AM
Then why did he deserve to die?

Bishop on February 13, 2013 at 10:47 AM

All f%cked up. In one sentence, no less.

Jabberwock on February 13, 2013 at 10:50 AM

it’s Big Bear Mountain……/

ted c on February 13, 2013 at 10:42 AM

Nonsense, my good man. The area is known for its adorable Disney-like tddy bears.

katy the mean old lady on February 13, 2013 at 10:50 AM

They could have left two of them outside the cabin with a tent until he came out. Nobody said he had to be taken within the next 2 hours. What the police ended up doing was exactly what Dorner was ranting about…the irony is so thick.

trs on February 13, 2013 at 10:37 AM

IN A TENT? TWO OF THEM? Tell me you are enjoying the 7th grade..

hillsoftx on February 13, 2013 at 10:44 AM

….it works in “theory”….just like Keynesian economics and peace agreements with the Taliban.

Baxter Greene on February 13, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Look at all the raving lunatics and their imagination gone wild (as usual) trying to invent support from left for Dorner.

lester on February 13, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Dude, I don’t have to “invent” anything. All you have to do is read their tweets and what they’ve been writing at The Huffington Post, etc.

Enjoy a taste of hate:

The Cop Killer Lovers On The Left Send A Big, Wet, Sloppy Bar Rafaeli To Cop Killer

The Depraved, Ghoulish Left Cheers On Dorner As Shootout Continues…Dead? Time To Riot?

Resist We Much on February 13, 2013 at 10:50 AM

He’s dead – that’s all that matters.

OldEnglish on February 13, 2013 at 10:51 AM

The area is known for its adorable Disney-like tddy bears.

katy the mean old lady on February 13, 2013 at 10:50 AM

that can only be brought down by weapons loaded with high capacity magazines and former Marines-turned-”Game Wardens”…….
/sarc of course./

ted c on February 13, 2013 at 10:52 AM

There is an incongruity with the story. A wallet and plastic drivers license survived a fire that charred a body such that dental records or DNA will be required to identify it.

thphilli “innocent until proven guilty” is a court/legal concept not an operational concept for everyday life.

bluegill he won’t rot in hell but what happens there is far, far worse that you could ever inflict upon him in your ugliest dreams. Wishing him there shows the depths of your own depravity.

chemman on February 13, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Certified police officers in CA have state wide jurisdiction.

Blake on February 13, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Murder committed on live TV after trying to gag the media, praised by statists and authoritarian sheep. Nothing surprises me on this site anymore.

mythicknight on February 13, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Not murder, Suicide.

Jabberwock on February 13, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Who’s house gets burned next???

ted c on February 13, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Do you honestly think this was a random guy they picked out and decided to chase and then torch the cabin he was in?

I suspect that his being a serial killer might have had something to do with it.

sharrukin on February 13, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Also: Can someone explain to me why the people who are so intent on taking away the guns of private citizens and making ever more laws for the police to enforce … then metaphorically dance in the streets when those same police are murdered by a thug?

*Shakes his head in puzzlement*

pendell2 on February 13, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Did they not want to talk to the guy about the investigation that they just reopened for him????? Why reopen the investigation if they were just planning on killing him anyway?

ted c on February 13, 2013 at 10:46 AM

They didn’t reopen the investigation for him. They reopened it to respond to charges he made about the LAPD.

And as for waiting him out, if they had who they thought they had, it was a man who had killed several people including one on the scene of the standoff (and wounding another), there had been a shootout with others, and the manhunt was massive. Waco had innocent individuals in the compound (only to be incinerated by Eric Holder and Janet Reno). Why would you try to negotiate surrender with a guy who left a manifesto making it clear he would die before being captured? If anything, the one shot they had of taking him alive was a direct assault.

Happy Nomad on February 13, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Murder committed on live TV after trying to gag the media, praised by statists and authoritarian sheep. Nothing surprises me on this site anymore.

mythicknight on February 13, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Um, if he was burned alive, then I’ll be upset, but until an autopsy is performed, you don’t know how he died.

There was blood in the street where he was located in the initial shootout occurred.

There is also reports of a single gunshot before the flames.

If he died from injuries he sustained in the shootout or from a single, self-inflicted gunshot, then he was NOT murdered in any way, shape or form.

OTOH, we KNOW that 4 innocent people WERE murdered and 3 others were seriously injured. Two are still hospitalised and one is in critical condition.

Resist We Much on February 13, 2013 at 10:54 AM

I’ll give the benefit of the doubt in this situation to the cops on the ground there. One of their fellow officers lies dead, the very dangerous killer Dorner is blowing off rounds from his barricade at them after previously doing a drive-by, so emotions are probably running a little high.

Bishop on February 13, 2013 at 10:55 AM

Murder committed on live TV after trying to gag the media, praised by statists and authoritarian sheep. Nothing surprises me on this site anymore.

mythicknight on February 13, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Doner’s had plenty of chances to surrender….
………..and didn’t have to go off on a massive murder spree.

Stopping a psychotic mass murderer from continuing to kill is not murder.

Baxter Greene on February 13, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Murder committed on live TV after trying to gag the media, praised by statists and authoritarian sheep.

mythicknight on February 13, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Every thought expressed in one sentence, wrong. Congratulations.

Paul-Cincy on February 13, 2013 at 10:56 AM

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