Open thread: Time for another instantly forgettable Obama SOTU
posted at 8:21 pm on February 12, 2013 by Allahpundit
9 p.m. ET all across the dial. I shouldn’t say “instantly forgettable”: His aides say he’ll “throw down the gauntlet” to the GOP, and there’s always a chance that he’ll misrepresent a Supreme Court ruling with the justices sitting right there in front of him, so the memory of this one could linger for up to 45 minutes afterward. Not even his media fan club can feign interest beyond that. WaPo’s been preparing its readership all day for a giant nothingburger with next to no polling bounce afterward. National Journal, pulling no punches, headlines its SOTU coverage with a piece titled, “Expect to Hear an Absolutely Forgettable State of the Union Speech.” Even a livewire like Ted Nugent, faced with the enervating prospect of listening to The One run through an hourlong lecture about how “government” is just a word for things we do together, can’t muster any orneriness for the occasion. Sample quote from O’s speech:
Let me repeat – nothing I’m proposing tonight should increase our deficit by a single dime. It’s not a bigger government we need, but a smarter government that sets priorities and invests in broad-based growth.
David Brooks will love it but for the rest of us this will be grim. If you make it all the way through, congrats — you’re a hardcore political junkie. Treat yourself to a bumper sticker to that effect.
What to expect in tonight’s traditional policy laundry list? First, lots of lip service about jobs to remind the public that he really cares even though he’s spending 80 percent of his time these days on guns and immigration. (Obama’s current job approval on the economy, by the way: 45/49.) Next, an enthusiastic pitch for more gun control highlighted by a favorite tactic, pointing to shooting victims in the audience to remind you that you’re complicit in murder if you think Dianne Feinstein’s assault-weapons ban would be ineffective and constitutionally suspect. Third, the usual boilerplate about North Korea, albeit this time likely used as a tool to bash the GOP for supporting the defense sequester. Here too, if you don’t support O’s policy preference, you’re on the side of a lunatic with a lethal arsenal. And finally, there’ll be the sermon to comprehensive immigration reform, again with visual aids in the audience. Pay attention during this part, because if O can’t resist his instinct to demagogue Republicans at every opportunity, it could end up blowing up the bipartisan Senate proposal.
Speaking of which, go read the excerpts of Rubio’s SOTU rebuttal in the Greenroom. If you’ve ever seen a Rubio speech, you know what to expect: Sunny, heavy on biography, lots of talk about middle-class aspirations — essentially the Obama “hope and change” playbook from 2008. Most of America hasn’t seen a Rubio speech before, though, which is why this is a big chance to make a splash. In fact, this speech will reportedly be even sunnier than usual in order to draw a clearer contrast with President Grumpy’s predictable, tendentious Republican-bashing earlier in the evening. Sample quote: “Despite our differences, I know that both Republicans and Democrats love America.” If your cable net of choice isn’t carrying the speech, you can watch it live online after O’s at GOP.gov. As for Rand Paul’s tea-party rebuttal to Obama, I’m expecting plenty of talk about the debt — but I wasn’t expecting this:
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) will urge Republicans to embrace immigration reform in his Tea Party response to President Obama’s State of the Union speech Tuesday night.
“We are the party that embraces hard work and ingenuity, therefore we must be the party that embraces the immigrant who wants to come to America for a better future,” Paul will say according to excerpts. “We must be the party who sees immigrants as assets, not liabilities. We must be the party that says, ‘If you want to work, if you want to become an American, we welcome you.’”
There are endless stories in online media today about the developing rivalry between Rubio and Paul. Who could have guessed that the latter would use his speech in part to give political cover to the former from the right on immigration?
You can watch Paul’s address after Rubio’s at TeaPartyExpress.org. The thread is open.
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I have to watch. The masochist in me won’t let me change the channel.
Ugly on February 12, 2013 at 8:59 PM
Will Obama congratulate Beyonce on her upcoming retirement.
RickB on February 12, 2013 at 8:59 PM
KCB on February 12, 2013 at 8:55 PM
Brave man! Kudos Ken! See you later :-)
Scrumpy on February 12, 2013 at 8:59 PM
Sorry, but are you serious with this? I wonder how that squares with Secret Service and regular protocols.
can_con on February 12, 2013 at 8:59 PM
And let the game begin!!! Go Wolverines :)
wolverinefan on February 12, 2013 at 8:59 PM
Besides, maybe Ted Nugent will get some camera time…
Ugly on February 12, 2013 at 8:59 PM
What I did many years ago..
Back when TV had a dial tuner….
Turn to FOX..
then slightly turn the knob between the adjacent channel..
The truth could be seen within the snow..
Electrongod on February 12, 2013 at 8:59 PM
Oh, now we have the bing.com/politics to “say what you want, how you vote, what you eat, where you go,….” yeah, I’ll definitely hook up to that…NOT!
sicoit on February 12, 2013 at 9:00 PM
Yes. Normally guests have to provide Social Security numbers and stuff, those requirements have been waived.
El_Terrible on February 12, 2013 at 9:00 PM
hmmmm Michelle’s dress looks familiar.
CoffeeLover on February 12, 2013 at 9:00 PM
#sotUGottaBKiddingMe
*Drink*
Any questions?
idesign on February 12, 2013 at 9:00 PM
Nah. He doesn’t start talking until at LEAST 9:15pm, does he?
You know the line that I really can’t stand, that he always uses? About either what kind of country we are, or that we’re not that kind of country. What kind of nation we are. Or, that’s not the kind of nation we are. It really makes me want to puke, all over his shoes. Because he only says it to support more taxing and spending.
Paul-Cincy on February 12, 2013 at 9:00 PM
Ok, channels cut away from Dorner now, on presidents STFU speech.
El_Terrible on February 12, 2013 at 9:01 PM
Watching, from a biker bar in NoVa. If you think HA is hostile toward Comrade 0…
Only way I can watch this goat-rope…
affenhauer on February 12, 2013 at 9:01 PM
Price of Keystone pipeline approval may be a carbon tax…
Developing…
Resist We Much on February 12, 2013 at 9:02 PM
Somebody needs to watch it so we’ll know when to give the salute everytime the chamber stands and claps for this clown.
Don’t look at me though … I’m busy.
ORrighty on February 12, 2013 at 9:02 PM
I’ll bet Sheila-Jackson-TRIPLE CROWN WEAVE-Lee is in da front row. She’s been there for 3 days to save her seat….yup….this is truth.
sicoit on February 12, 2013 at 9:02 PM
I will miss the part of Shelia Jackson Lee throwing her body in the aisle. If she did it for W there is no telling what she’ll do for The Won.
Cindy Munford on February 12, 2013 at 9:02 PM
And let the game begin!!! Go Wolverines :)
wolverinefan on February 12, 2013 at 8:59 PM
KOOLAID2 on February 12, 2013 at 9:02 PM
If only the State of the Union started out with music..
Burning Down The House…
Electrongod on February 12, 2013 at 9:02 PM
*Clink*
Electrongod on February 12, 2013 at 9:03 PM
It’s time! WooHoo!
Limerick on February 12, 2013 at 9:03 PM
https://twitter.com/search/realtime?q=%23sotUGottaBKiddingMe&src=hash
INC on February 12, 2013 at 9:03 PM
TED NUGENT IS IN THE AUDIENCE! WOOOOOOT WOOOOTT! :)
sicoit on February 12, 2013 at 9:03 PM
Thanks, I believed you, but just still can’t believe it. What the hell is wrong with these people.
Why isn’t ICE walking in there and taking them away!
can_con on February 12, 2013 at 9:03 PM
Watching Citizen Kane on TCM. No desire to suffer through Barky.
Philly on February 12, 2013 at 9:04 PM
Yet another pile of steaming propaganda. Please let the dogs out.
electricfunksandwich on February 12, 2013 at 9:04 PM
*clink* ms Cindy Munford! :)
sicoit on February 12, 2013 at 9:05 PM
lol – there should be bars for conservatives. they would do good business!
22044 on February 12, 2013 at 9:05 PM
Oh look, a 1st grade teacher from Sandy Hook sitting with Moochelle in HER box…..*sniff*
sicoit on February 12, 2013 at 9:05 PM
.
Hey, Ted deserves more credit than I … : )
listens2glenn on February 12, 2013 at 9:06 PM
@Josh_Painter: So, will Sen. Robert Menendez have a teenage hooker from the Dominican Republic seated nest to him for the #sotUGottaBKiddingMe?
idesign on February 12, 2013 at 9:06 PM
This is just unbelievable, this garbage continues, I hope all the wonderful folks that voted for him can see the stink for miles. What a charlatan! Welcome to the future.
electricfunksandwich on February 12, 2013 at 9:06 PM
Oh yeah!
*CLINK* cuz I need a big drink! ;-)
Scrumpy on February 12, 2013 at 9:06 PM
Miami/Portland is a good game on NBA TV…
budfox on February 12, 2013 at 9:06 PM
John Moron Roberts is in the audience.
El_Terrible on February 12, 2013 at 9:06 PM
I’m going to follow Dorner’s live-blogging of the SOTU, instead.
Christien on February 12, 2013 at 9:06 PM
you could also watch the jodie aria murder trial. the lurid audio of the video could be juxtaposed on obamas sotu.
when you bend over america….you are so hooooot.
renalin on February 12, 2013 at 9:06 PM
They have a flagrant disregard for the rule of law. The law is only a vise to be used as they see fit.
INC on February 12, 2013 at 9:07 PM
…he’s still trying to plug the hole!
KOOLAID2 on February 12, 2013 at 9:07 PM
Ted: You rock!! :-)
Scrumpy on February 12, 2013 at 9:07 PM
Is the POS gonna be late?????????????? AGAIN???????? *SPIT*
sicoit on February 12, 2013 at 9:07 PM
sicoit on February 12, 2013 at 9:07 PM
Why yeah, he operates on CP Time ;-)
Scrumpy on February 12, 2013 at 9:08 PM
@SarahPalinUSA: Obama is expected to say tonight: “Nothing I’m proposing tonight should increase our deficit by a single dime.” #sotUGottaBKiddingMe
idesign on February 12, 2013 at 9:08 PM
“Now, we cut away to Big Bear Lake for a Dorner update”…things you will not hear from the MSM during Scooter’s diatribe..
hillsoftx on February 12, 2013 at 9:08 PM
First person to ID the hand up his back gets two tickets to Ellen.
Limerick on February 12, 2013 at 9:08 PM
Ah, great minds.
Cindy Munford on February 12, 2013 at 9:09 PM
2013 was pretty good until…
Electrongod on February 12, 2013 at 9:09 PM
Cleopatra??????? What happened to the STATE OF THE UNION? Oh yes, it’s all about the “O”…never mind.
sicoit on February 12, 2013 at 9:09 PM
22044 on February 12, 2013 at 9:09 PM
The Charlatan in Chief is late again. What a piece of dirt.
electricfunksandwich on February 12, 2013 at 9:09 PM
The Nuge,, in the house. Interesting times…
wolly4321 on February 12, 2013 at 9:09 PM
The Dictator is in the building
El_Terrible on February 12, 2013 at 9:09 PM
El_Terrible on February 12, 2013 at 8:40 PM
Brave and Taken 2. Seem appropriate.
Rose on February 12, 2013 at 9:10 PM
Wonder why my posts show up and then disappear?
Barred on February 12, 2013 at 9:10 PM
When the President is announced, and everyone gets up and cheers, wouldn’t that be cool if they all threw up instead?
/I have my fantasies
Paul-Cincy on February 12, 2013 at 9:10 PM
via twitter, the word is that the speech in 6400 plus words. Be careful with your drinking games
r keller on February 12, 2013 at 9:10 PM
…then you didn’t miss the shot at the buzzer against Indiana!
KOOLAID2 on February 12, 2013 at 9:10 PM
Ooooohhhhh he has his face and hair colour goin on…..
sicoit on February 12, 2013 at 9:10 PM
The president of 1/2 of the United States. Not my 1/2.
electricfunksandwich on February 12, 2013 at 9:10 PM
Rose on February 12, 2013 at 9:10 PM
Liked them both. Have fun.
El_Terrible on February 12, 2013 at 9:11 PM
Is it wrong for me to hope he trips and falls flat on his face.
gophergirl on February 12, 2013 at 9:11 PM
shoot, I can get another drinky and a cigarette by the time mister wonderful gets up there to lie. BRB!
sicoit on February 12, 2013 at 9:11 PM
MISTER SPEAKER . . . . . . . . THE (multiple expletives).
listens2glenn on February 12, 2013 at 9:11 PM
Kevin Jennings and it’s not up his back.
RickB on February 12, 2013 at 9:11 PM
He’s herreee…
My collie says:
CyberCipher on February 12, 2013 at 9:11 PM
Barred on February 12, 2013 at 9:10 PM
HA is acting hinky just click refresh frequently… ur comment will show up… same if you leave for another thread, come in and hit refresh…
Scrumpy on February 12, 2013 at 9:11 PM
and Robert Costa is reporting that our friend Fred ‘lightbulb’ upton looks eager to get a handshake from O.
r keller on February 12, 2013 at 9:12 PM
Good evening all! In case none of the Networks carry Rand Paul’s response, this will suffice:
http://static.teapartyexpress.org/
I’d rather they have the good Dr. give a response:-)
bluefox on February 12, 2013 at 9:12 PM
Dude would find a way to be late for his own funeral…
affenhauer on February 12, 2013 at 9:12 PM
It’s the best except for my stupid Gophers – grrrrr
gophergirl on February 12, 2013 at 9:12 PM
I’ll probably have the sound off. Would someone tell me when he does his version of “that’s not the kind of nation we are”? Or I could check out the transcript tomorrow.
Paul-Cincy on February 12, 2013 at 9:13 PM
blah..can’t believe i’m watching this crap
sadsushi on February 12, 2013 at 9:13 PM
Having a drink if he says “let me be clear” & “uhhh” …
drunk in 5 minutes
22044 on February 12, 2013 at 9:13 PM
Oh god I wanna barf… been switching between Face Off and C-SPAN.
Scrumpy on February 12, 2013 at 9:13 PM
I wouldn’t mind seeing a few shoes being thrown.
lynncgb on February 12, 2013 at 9:13 PM
Mark Levin wrapping up his 6-9 show, ripped Collins to shreds for Hagel support.
bluefox on February 12, 2013 at 9:13 PM
Lol! Yep, pretty much. ; )
Bmore on February 12, 2013 at 9:14 PM
All that applause, nauseating…
Scrumpy on February 12, 2013 at 9:14 PM
Robert Costa @robertcostaNRO
Sebielius just went up to Roberts and shook his hand. She shook the hand of only him among the nine. #obamacare
https://twitter.com/robertcostaNRO/status/301511995281244160
Mark1971 on February 12, 2013 at 9:14 PM
Yeah the sidebar ad has been jumping over and blocking the lead thread all day here. Got to love it when content takes a back seat and the authors don’t seem to care.
Limerick on February 12, 2013 at 9:14 PM
No. I’ve hoped for much worse than that.
MustLoveBlogs on February 12, 2013 at 9:14 PM
He’ll take longer going down the isle, saying greetings and salutations than any previous President.
A NEW RECORD !
listens2glenn on February 12, 2013 at 9:15 PM
22044 on February 12, 2013 at 9:15 PM
…
I am a little nervous (ok-alot) We seem to choke at away games :(
wolverinefan on February 12, 2013 at 9:15 PM
Sit has bn goofy for days. Keep refreshing.
katy the mean old lady on February 12, 2013 at 9:15 PM
HE didn’t build that…
Electrongod on February 12, 2013 at 9:15 PM
6400+ words? That’s comparable to what’s-his-name’s manifesto. I wonder if he does a shout out to anyone in entertainment. I bet he mentions Michelle, and maybe even her bangs, with the camera panning to her, with a sheepish smile on her face.
Paul-Cincy on February 12, 2013 at 9:15 PM
Limerick on February 12, 2013 at 9:14 PM
Not having issues with sidebar ads, but somthing is most def off at HA, it’s only slightly annoying…
Scrumpy on February 12, 2013 at 9:16 PM
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Thank you . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
(the crowd goes WILD)
listens2glenn on February 12, 2013 at 9:16 PM
Nope..
I am finished..
The clapping went on too far long..
Electrongod on February 12, 2013 at 9:16 PM
dana loesch:
fanboys and fangirls
r keller on February 12, 2013 at 9:16 PM
And, here we go. Where’s the Maalox?
kingsjester on February 12, 2013 at 9:16 PM
Couldn’t believe the intro ABC used.
yongoro on February 12, 2013 at 9:16 PM
Well since Uncle Ted is there. Normally I try to avoid loading vids with ads. If you get the ad I got. I think it will be okay. Ted would approve.
Bmore on February 12, 2013 at 9:16 PM
Second Hurrican underway and ready to rumble….
Fallon on February 12, 2013 at 9:16 PM
Citing constitution….. to????
El_Terrible on February 12, 2013 at 9:16 PM
Hey Scrumpy! I think HA have been adding too many ads and have changed their formatting somehow. I’ve had issues for about 2 weeks.
bluefox on February 12, 2013 at 9:16 PM
This is the part where a nation that fought a revolution to get rid of a king hails its president as if he were one.
Mark1971 on February 12, 2013 at 9:16 PM
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