Endgame: Susan Collins to vote yes on Hagel? Update: Committee approves Hagel

posted at 3:21 pm on February 12, 2013 by Allahpundit

Major news from Major “Shirty Business” Garrett:

Remember, to date, not a single Senate Democrat has said he/she will oppose Hagel. That’s 55 votes in the bank. Thad Cochran is 56 and Collins would be 57. Murkowski’s a safe bet in situations like this to err on the side of bipartisanship, so that’s 58. All O needs is two more to bust the filibuster and he’s got a variety of centrist Republicans who can give it to him — Coats, Chambliss, Corker, Heller, Kirk, and so forth. Even the hardline anti-Hagel crew is sounding more fatalistic about his nomination. Two days ago, Lindsey Graham threatened to hold up the confirmation vote until he gets more info on Benghazi from the White House. Two days later, he’s saying things like this:

The hope last week was that by delaying the vote, the GOP might force Obama or Carl Levin or Hagel himself to reflect on the fact that a guy who can’t state the White House’s Iran policy without help, after weeks of preparation, might be out of his depth leading the world’s greatest military. No dice: Hagel’s brother claimed yesterday he’s more resolved than ever to stick with this while a White House spokesman said, “We are absolutely committed to the Hagel nomination.” This guy’s not going to be shamed into quitting; if he had any shame to start with, he wouldn’t have lied his ass off at the hearing about his true feelings on the “Jewish lobby” in hopes of getting confirmed. And lest you doubt that the Democrats mean business in pushing him through, here’s the latest from Reid:

Democrats control the Armed Services Committee, which is planning to vote on the nomination today, so Hagel’s bound to pass that without a hitch. That means it’s all down to a GOP filibuster, with Jim Inhofe promising to delay a floor vote for as long as it takes — which might not be long, if in fact those 60 votes are already there. As a gloss on what happens when you nominate a guy who’s not well regarded inside the Pentagon, read Walter Pincus’s memoir of Les Aspin’s debut as SecDef in 1993. The respect of one’s subordinates, especially in a hierarchy like the military’s, is important needless to say. What kind of respect will Hagel have going in there transparently as a Republican catspaw for Obama’s defense-cutting agenda?

Update: On to the floor vote. The Armed Services Committee approved him, 14-11, as expected. Party-line vote.


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The U S Senate is not made up of wise old men and women, it’s made up of old politically correct fools, and political correctness amounts to a lack of common sense.

savage24 on February 12, 2013 at 4:29 PM

The U S Senate is not made up of wise old men and women, it’s made up of old politically correct fools tools, and political correctness amounts to a lack of common sense.

FIFY! ;-)

belad on February 12, 2013 at 4:44 PM

What kind of respect will Hagel have going in there transparently as a Republican catspaw for Obama’s defense-cutting agenda?

It’s going to be a mess and Barry needs a fall guy. Hagel is too stupid to realize that.

GarandFan on February 12, 2013 at 4:48 PM

kim roy on February 12, 2013 at 4:31 PM

I understand your reasoning… and I understand HondaV65′s reasoning too. You guys agree on the goal, however you disagree on how to get there.

You believe incrementalism will work… that is replacing Democrats with RINOs and then RINOs with conservatives. HondaV65 believes the best approach is to allow Democrats to sign their own death warrants by giving them unfettered access to wreak maximum havoc.

My opinion?

I would say RINOs most of the time lead to Democrats taking over. George HW Bush/George W Bush led to Democrat victories after failing to stand up for (or defend) conservative principles.

So let’s try HondaV65′s approach. It’s worked before. Carter led to Reagan… and I daresay Obama would have lost to a more conservative GOP candidate. Let’s pray that we do get a better candidate in 2016.

TheRightMan on February 12, 2013 at 4:48 PM

So let’s try HondaV65′s approach. It’s worked before. Carter led to Reagan… and I daresay Obama would have lost to a more conservative GOP candidate. Let’s pray that we do get a better candidate in 2016.

TheRightMan on February 12, 2013 at 4:48 PM

We have no choice. We are trying Honda’s way. However, keep in mind that ObamaCare will be entrenched along with the possibility of amnesty and all the chaos that having incompetent people in serious positions will entail.

Carter had four years. Obama has eight.

We’ll see, I guess.

kim roy on February 12, 2013 at 5:12 PM

So when do you think the Democrats will stop being socialists? Otherwise your advice is to keep voting for RINOs instead of the Democratic socialists.

Why would the GOP ever stop running RINOs if you will never stop voting for them?

sharrukin on February 12, 2013 at 4:36 PM

My position has been laid out many times. If you missed it (and it isn’t “continue running RINOs”), then sorry. I’m not going to repeat it.

kim roy on February 12, 2013 at 5:14 PM

The GOP needs to make it’s point and move on; you never know what will be next. Hagel’s so goofy he may turn on Obama before it’s over.

Tater Salad on February 12, 2013 at 5:14 PM

This is “Let It Burn” in action.

Caiwyn on February 12, 2013 at 5:26 PM

As if there was ever any doubt that Hagel would be confirmed.

Pork-Chop on February 12, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Get ready for the most dumbed-down, hollow military in the entire world. Lord help us because the military will lose its ability to effectively carry out all its missions.

rplat on February 12, 2013 at 5:28 PM

This is “Let It Burn” in action.
Caiwyn on February 12, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Yep. And make no mistake: all Hagel wants out of this personally is more face time in front of the cameras. He’s the perfect fool to serve Obama.

NebCon on February 12, 2013 at 5:33 PM

rplat on February 12, 2013 at 5:28 PM

yepper

cmsinaz on February 12, 2013 at 5:34 PM

How many more reasons are there to NOT vote for repubs? They are are in the demonrats back pocket.

johnny reb on February 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Thanks again for not a durn thing, “MODERATE” republicans RINO’s. You would have served Willard quite well, but NO ONE WANTED HIM EITHER!

DannoJyd on February 12, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Exactly what we have come to expect from the Democraps — voting on a party-line basis for an appointee who is so incompetent that he appears retarded under questioning.

Jaibones on February 12, 2013 at 6:06 PM

And, everyone complains about Lindsey Graham. Collins should be tarred and feathered.

SC.Charlie on February 12, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Dumbed Down is contagious. and Permanent.

FlaMurph on February 12, 2013 at 6:20 PM

So Collins didn’t vote for him?

22044 on February 12, 2013 at 6:34 PM

I hope not one dumb-a$$ Republican whines when the military becomes the hollow milktoast force BO wants. The GOP will be just as responsible as the Dems.

katiejane on February 12, 2013 at 6:37 PM

So Collins didn’t vote for him?

22044 on February 12, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Never mind…

22044 on February 12, 2013 at 6:42 PM

Let’s pray that we do get a better candidate in 2016.

TheRightMan on February 12, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Yeah like Jeb or El Marco.

Mr. Arrogant on February 12, 2013 at 7:00 PM

Obama wants someone in his administration who could be more incompetent and dangerous than he is..well he found the right person..ok maybe no one could be more dangerous than Obama

sadsushi on February 12, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Endgame: Susan Collins to vote yes on Hagel?

…P O S…!
past…present…and future

KOOLAID2 on February 12, 2013 at 7:42 PM

I am sure Collins is a candidate Rove would love to promote.

D.L.Mc on February 12, 2013 at 8:13 PM

I am sure Collins is a candidate Rove would love to promote.

D.L.Mc on February 12, 2013 at 8:13 PM

Sure. Snowe stepped down and we now have Angus King, another (I) who caucuses with the donks. You’d rather have Snowe too.

Of course, it’s a separate matter if you’re trading up for a more conservative senator from say, Utah.

crrr6 on February 12, 2013 at 8:26 PM

Repeat after me until this sinks in…..Forget Democrat and Republican labels. Think Progressive. Both parties are infested, the dems moreso but the Republicans are gaining fast. Boehner is the biggest Progressive there with McConnell fast on his heels. Both with use any excuse to cave and vote to help the libs. How many times must you all watch this broadway show before you have a lightbulb moment???? This country no longer has the time to sort them all out….we need to get rid of them all and begin all over again fresh. The clock is ticking loudly and we all will lose if we don’t do something fast. Otherwise, we’ll all be men and women without a country.

MONACO1121 on February 12, 2013 at 8:27 PM

Sure. Snowe stepped down and we now have Angus King, another (I) who caucuses with the donks. You’d rather have Snowe too.

I don’t know that. Has there ever been a vote that Collins came through for the republicans when it mattered. I recall she was up in the air on Obamacare till the last second. If not – then why have her broadcast your brand.

D.L.Mc on February 12, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Sure. Snowe stepped down and we now have Angus King, another (I) who caucuses with the donks. You’d rather have Snowe too.

Of course, it’s a separate matter if you’re trading up for a more conservative senator from say, Utah.

crrr6 on February 12, 2013 at 8:26 PM

Well … you’re a loser and that’s the way losers look at it. “Hey, let’s elect the least damaging guy!”

Only problem is – we’ve been doing that for 50 years and what the hell do we get? Republicans who conspire with Dims to move this nation farther and farther left.

There is nothing left to lose baby – this nation is SKEEEEEREEEEWED and there is NOBODY that can put the brakes on this train no matter who you elect (GOP or DIM).

We need to get the GOP into shape for the fall – so they can pick up the pieces. The way we do this is to politically exterminate every GOP establishment Ayatollah and make it known they no longer speak for us.

Time is of the essence here too.

HondaV65 on February 12, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Cripes, they approved Hagel without ONCE demanding to see his birth certificate. Our country is doomed.

greataunty on February 12, 2013 at 9:58 PM

Turncoat. Hagel, useless tool.

AshleyTKing on February 12, 2013 at 10:40 PM

Douchebag, antisemite. Islamist-firster.

AshleyTKing on February 12, 2013 at 10:47 PM

And every senator who would vote for that ranks beneath Caligula’s horse.

AshleyTKing on February 12, 2013 at 10:48 PM

This never would have happened if we’d had Mike Castle in the Senate.

sartana on February 12, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Stumbling, sycophantic fool in charge of national defense, why not?

AshleyTKing on February 12, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Snowe can step into the ocean in the next radioactive tsunami.

AshleyTKing on February 12, 2013 at 11:12 PM

OK, Allah, the dog face has got to go. Where is the poker face?

AshleyTKing on February 12, 2013 at 11:13 PM

This never would have happened if we’d had Mike Castle in the Senate.

sartana on February 12, 2013 at 10:57 PM

I mean, you’re not kidding, right? Christine the reform witch would have voted against, are you saying?

AshleyTKing on February 12, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Susan Collins: Teddy Roosevelt meets Rodney King?

AshleyTKing on February 12, 2013 at 11:16 PM

As for Hagel’s mission, he’ll be busy “cleaning up” the Benghazi mess, making sure nothing specific leaches out of his department. That will be a full time job, not requiring any particular skills or knowledge.

virgo on February 13, 2013 at 12:46 AM

News Flash to Chuck FinHagle. Watch out for the bus.

Wade on February 13, 2013 at 8:27 AM

Another Rovian/GOP planned event takes place under the guise of “we’re just weak opposition, but trust us, we’re trying, and if you don’t support us they will win…..”
Groan-what fools we be!

Don L on February 13, 2013 at 10:17 AM

It’s impossible to win a chess game, when the ruling class owns both the white and the black pieces….

Don L on February 13, 2013 at 10:20 AM

Could have saved a lot of time and money by foregoing the hearings. We have a lot of stupid MF-ers running this country. And we have a lot of stupd MF-ers voting for them.

Ken James on February 13, 2013 at 10:37 AM

So much for Allahpundits predictions. Your “reliable sources” don’t seem that reliable. Figures.

DevilsPrinciple on February 15, 2013 at 5:14 AM

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