Endgame: Susan Collins to vote yes on Hagel? Update: Committee approves Hagel

posted at 3:21 pm on February 12, 2013 by Allahpundit

Major news from Major “Shirty Business” Garrett:

Remember, to date, not a single Senate Democrat has said he/she will oppose Hagel. That’s 55 votes in the bank. Thad Cochran is 56 and Collins would be 57. Murkowski’s a safe bet in situations like this to err on the side of bipartisanship, so that’s 58. All O needs is two more to bust the filibuster and he’s got a variety of centrist Republicans who can give it to him — Coats, Chambliss, Corker, Heller, Kirk, and so forth. Even the hardline anti-Hagel crew is sounding more fatalistic about his nomination. Two days ago, Lindsey Graham threatened to hold up the confirmation vote until he gets more info on Benghazi from the White House. Two days later, he’s saying things like this:

The hope last week was that by delaying the vote, the GOP might force Obama or Carl Levin or Hagel himself to reflect on the fact that a guy who can’t state the White House’s Iran policy without help, after weeks of preparation, might be out of his depth leading the world’s greatest military. No dice: Hagel’s brother claimed yesterday he’s more resolved than ever to stick with this while a White House spokesman said, “We are absolutely committed to the Hagel nomination.” This guy’s not going to be shamed into quitting; if he had any shame to start with, he wouldn’t have lied his ass off at the hearing about his true feelings on the “Jewish lobby” in hopes of getting confirmed. And lest you doubt that the Democrats mean business in pushing him through, here’s the latest from Reid:

Democrats control the Armed Services Committee, which is planning to vote on the nomination today, so Hagel’s bound to pass that without a hitch. That means it’s all down to a GOP filibuster, with Jim Inhofe promising to delay a floor vote for as long as it takes — which might not be long, if in fact those 60 votes are already there. As a gloss on what happens when you nominate a guy who’s not well regarded inside the Pentagon, read Walter Pincus’s memoir of Les Aspin’s debut as SecDef in 1993. The respect of one’s subordinates, especially in a hierarchy like the military’s, is important needless to say. What kind of respect will Hagel have going in there transparently as a Republican catspaw for Obama’s defense-cutting agenda?

Update: On to the floor vote. The Armed Services Committee approved him, 14-11, as expected. Party-line vote.


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Good grief. Does she stand for anything?

Charlemagne on February 12, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Hagel is inept, anti-semetic, and a danger to our national security. He’s also an asshat jerk. But no matter, the Dems are a united body and will follow Dear Leader like the Pied Piper.

Jackalope on February 12, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Susan Collins can be bought and sold by the Left like a cheap hooker.

Jackalope on February 12, 2013 at 3:25 PM

I can’t wait for KingGold to show up and lecture us on the reason why Blue state Republicans are better than having a Blue State Democrat.

portlandon on February 12, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Endgame: Susan Collins to vote yes on Hagel?

And the difference between this bimbo and a Democrat is what?

sharrukin on February 12, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Just like the John Roberts Obongocare vote. Always one
goof to help the country screw itself.

Texyank on February 12, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Well, then Obama owns this incompetent goofball. Any bad results from the decisions and actions he takes are on Obama’s head and we have to make sure they’re seen in the light of day.

Jill1066 on February 12, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Good grief. Does she stand for anything?

Charlemagne on February 12, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Do any of them? Other than standing with each other, no.

CTSherman on February 12, 2013 at 3:28 PM

That photo at the top of the post makes Hagel look more clueless than any politician in our history. He’s the dimwitted uncle at family gatherings. He’s the neighborhood guy who does menial jobs. I hope he’s not half as bad as he comes across.

Paul-Cincy on February 12, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Hegel is an anti-semite, inept jerk. He is a danger to our national security. But no matter, the Dems are united and will follow Dear Leader like the Pied Piper. Not only are the Repubs divided, but they (Susan Collins) don’t even have spine enough to make obvious votes like this one. We are doomed.

Jackalope on February 12, 2013 at 3:29 PM

I can’t wait for KingGold to show up and lecture us on the reason why Blue state Republicans are better than having a Blue State Democrat.

portlandon on February 12, 2013 at 3:25 PM

I was thinking the same thing.

topdawg on February 12, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Who better to dismantle the military than a pro-Muslim, anti-Israeli stooge?

darwin on February 12, 2013 at 3:29 PM

OH dear God, why DO we have such saying they are r’s? May this old harpy be held accountable for her actions by God!

Gad, I detest rino’s as much as d’s!
L

letget on February 12, 2013 at 3:30 PM

This is our government. Unbelievable. In what other realm of human enterprise could such venality and incompetence grow and prosper.

But of course Hagel will be confirmed. Was there ever any doubt?

rrpjr on February 12, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Obama showed his complete contempt for the military by nominating that unqualified boob to the post, all as cover to decimate it with cuts. Screw “bipartisanship” (which is just a one-way street anyway…the GOP needs to hold this up.

changer1701 on February 12, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Well, then Obama owns this incompetent goofball. Any bad results from the decisions and actions he takes are on Obama’s head and we have to make sure they’re seen in the light of day.

Jill1066 on February 12, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Heh, like that has made any difference….
Fast n’ Furious
Benghazi
Petrarus

Hagel will be taken out with the trash when the time comes….

Hagel is nothing more than another Obama Republican stooge.

Collins is a worthless hunk of flesh.

redguy on February 12, 2013 at 3:31 PM

An open question to all the GOPe types here at HA. Remind me again why this one is on the team.

Bmore on February 12, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Seems fitting. One clueless idiot, voting to confirm another clueless idiot.

AZCoyote on February 12, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Northeast Blue State Republicans! They are the future!

portlandon on February 12, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Seems fitting. One clueless idiot, voting to confirm another clueless idiot.

AZCoyote on February 12, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Voted in by clueless idiots.

redguy on February 12, 2013 at 3:32 PM

This one got the message and is out. Chambliss. He has become worthless as snot.

Bmore on February 12, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Well, then Obama owns this incompetent goofball. Any bad results from the decisions and actions he takes are on Obama’s head and we have to make sure they’re seen in the light of day.

Jill1066 on February 12, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Wrong. Hagel has a big (R) next to his name. Thus the perfect scapegoat/Shield for Obama’s destruction of our defense department.

portlandon on February 12, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Susan Collins should caucus with the Dems and get it over with.

DRayRaven on February 12, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Of course she would

She’s a main twin ain’t she

Cripe

cmsinaz on February 12, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Elections have consequences.

Is it just me or are those libertarians and Obama voters showing up less and less.

I wonder why?

kim roy on February 12, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Good grief. Does she stand for anything?
Charlemagne on February 12, 2013 at 3:22 PM

I think it’s good that she doesn’t stand for political witch hunts.

antifederalist on February 12, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Why doesn’t Sen. Collins just defect to the Democrats and quit pretending to be a Republican?

sadatoni on February 12, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Can you imagine a true national emergency, and Hagel coming to the podium, looking befuddled, fumbling with his notes, checking back with his aids who look back at him as if he’s a monkey at the controls of a nuclear reactor or a 4 year playing with your best china, and then he opens his mouth and …

Paul-Cincy on February 12, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Another reason why we need to have term limits for “The Club”

blammm on February 12, 2013 at 3:44 PM

When defense contractors start laying off workers and shutting down will the administration be able to hide the unemployemnt numbers?

docflash on February 12, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Wow, that’s a shocker!

The Senate Frat boys and girls voting to put one of their frat brothers into a position of power for which they are supremely unfit.

Whoever could have imagined such a thing?

(Do I really need the /s tag?)

LegendHasIt on February 12, 2013 at 3:45 PM

I think it’s good that she doesn’t stand for political witch hunts.

antifederalist on February 12, 2013 at 3:43 PM

No. It appears she stands with… wait… this is better than I can say it (thank you Paul-Cincy):

Can you imagine a true national emergency, and Hagel coming to the podium, looking befuddled, fumbling with his notes, checking back with his aids who look back at him as if he’s a monkey at the controls of a nuclear reactor or a 4 year playing with your best china, and then he opens his mouth and …

Paul-Cincy on February 12, 2013 at 3:43 PM

kim roy on February 12, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Graham on Hagel: I’m not inclined to filibuster anyone forever

Didn’t take long for him to go squishy. Not surprising. Guess he got his jollies from his grilling of Hagel for the TV cameras.

Bitter Clinger on February 12, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Can you imagine a true national emergency, and Hagel coming to the podium, looking befuddled, fumbling with his notes, checking back with his aids who look back at him as if he’s a monkey at the controls of a nuclear reactor or a 4 year playing with your best china, and then he opens his mouth and …

Paul-Cincy on February 12, 2013 at 3:43 PM

I almost started laughing at that, then reality smacked me and I realized that is what will happen oh to soon I fear.

D-fusit on February 12, 2013 at 3:50 PM

He is a friend of Hamas and did Brennan really become a Muslim while serving in Soddy?

I think I’d prefer the “hearts and minds” nonsense over the “if you can’t beat them, join them” strategy.

BL@KBIRD on February 12, 2013 at 3:51 PM

WTH is up with Thad Cochran..?

d1carter on February 12, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Just another example of why RINO’s should be excommunicated from this party (instead of running it – like they are now).

I’ve tried to tell people this over and over. Rush says … “Moderate Republicans become THE MOST important Republicans on the hill because everything always hinges on them and they back the Democrats!”

Willardbots and Snott Browniebotts will tell you … “Oh but they vote with us on 70% of the issues.”

Frankly 70% of the issues they vote on are garbage bills anyway – we have enough laws.

It’s those 30% “reach across the aisle” votes that are actually killing this country – and the GOP.

HondaV65 on February 12, 2013 at 3:51 PM

LegendHasIt on February 12, 2013 at 3:45 PM

They just had practice doing just that with ol’ long face john.

D-fusit on February 12, 2013 at 3:51 PM

WTH is up with Thad Cochran..?

d1carter on February 12, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Establishment Ayatollah – that’s what.

HondaV65 on February 12, 2013 at 3:52 PM

Without the aid and comfort of the commie Democrats for the last 30 years by these enaber RINO’s the commie Democrats would have “Wigged” out just like the Wig Party years ago before the commie Democrats took our country down this low.

Fight the RINO’s within, with out them the commie Democrats get nothing passed.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 12, 2013 at 3:52 PM

Remember when attending 5 colleges and racking up a C-average was an automatic disqualification for high-level office and choosing her was 100% proof that McCain was not POTUS-material?

Not anymore! The Left – and RINOS – now embrace a five college attender with a D-average and have become his fiercest champions since Obama nominated him for Secretary of Defence.

Using LibLogic:

Palin > Hagel

McCain > Obama

Resist We Much on February 12, 2013 at 3:53 PM

<blockquote Susan Collins can beis regularly bought and sold by the Left like a cheap hooker.

Jackalope on February 12, 2013 at 3:25 PM

FIFY

NY Conservative on February 12, 2013 at 3:55 PM

Little boy Graham Cracker was just getting free film for his re-election adds.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 12, 2013 at 3:55 PM

only when Obama tells her to

dmart81 on February 12, 2013 at 3:55 PM

Good old Republican “moderates”, you can always count on a sell out. But really it only means one more moron in an administration of morons, one more sap for islam.
With the State of the Union dictate tonight the collectivist power grab amps up,stay tuned.
Oh, and it will be hailed as a great speech by media tramps.

arand on February 12, 2013 at 3:56 PM

This is why we do not need these progressive R seats… gives the democrats bipartisan cover.

astonerii on February 12, 2013 at 3:56 PM

I hope the GOP continues the capitulation …

At this rate – the 2014 elections will be more about throwing establishment Ayatollahs out of office than it will be about beating Dimmocrits.

I’m thinking that the grassroots has come to the collective conclusion that … in order to save this nation … they’ll need .357 Magnum party rather than a .22 Long Rifle Party (like they have now). And to get that .357 – they have to throw out the damned Ayatollahs who have killed this party!

HondaV65 on February 12, 2013 at 3:56 PM

HondaV65 on February 12, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Hey, Obama voter! Are you having fun making popcorn and having the buds over for SOTU tonight? Hope so – you voted for him!!

But just to answer your moronic and short sighted comment on why it was better to vote for a RINO than go full retard like you did: We wouldn’t even be having this discussion, nor the Brennan discussion nor the Kerry discussion nor any of the other moronic discussions we are going to have over the next four years if Romney would have won.

Yes, Romney was a RINO, but he was a RINO we could deal with and give us a wee bit of breathing room while we organized a third party or cleaned up the GOP. As it is, we will be using all our time and energy to fight off Obama, his Marxism and the chaos his choices will cause.

So enjoy all this – you voted for it!

kim roy on February 12, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Come on KingGold. Defend this.

portlandon on February 12, 2013 at 3:58 PM

Golly gee, that Republican Big Tent philosophy is really paying off for us!!!!!

:/

search4truth on February 12, 2013 at 3:58 PM

I for one am GLAD that Susan Collins is in that seat! Let’s remember folks … she votes 70% of the time with us!!

Just like Chief Justice John Roberts … hey, he’s not a solid conservative but he usually votes with us! Well, except for ObamaCare. Glad we have that old chap doing fine work for us in the Capitol!

/S

HondaV65 on February 12, 2013 at 3:58 PM

80% of the elected members of the two party evil money cult enablers in Washington D.C. are not qualified for the office they hold.

20% of the elected members of the two party evil money cult enablers in Washington D.C. are qualified only enough to count the money they all steal from U.S..

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 12, 2013 at 3:59 PM

Come on KingGold. Defend this.

portlandon on February 12, 2013 at 3:58 PM

He’s smart enough not to raise his head in this thread.

HondaV65 on February 12, 2013 at 3:59 PM

The Senate Frat boys and girls voting to put one of their frat brothers into a position of power for which they are supremely unfit.

You are so right about this, Legend. It infuriates me to no end, but what’s worse is the brazenness of it. They do this crap in our faces without giving a rip about the consequences to Americans or even the appearances to voters. I feel enslaved.

Jackalope on February 12, 2013 at 3:59 PM

I hope the GOP continues the capitulation …

At this rate – the 2014 elections will be more about throwing establishment Ayatollahs out of office than it will be about beating Dimmocrits.

I’m thinking that the grassroots has come to the collective conclusion that … in order to save this nation … they’ll need .357 Magnum party rather than a .22 Long Rifle Party (like they have now). And to get that .357 – they have to throw out the damned Ayatollahs who have killed this party!

HondaV65 on February 12, 2013 at 3:56 PM

My God are you ever weapons grade stupid. Full retard is an understatement. That’s going to be too late, stupid. By that time amnesty and ObamaCare are going to be entrenched and it’s going to take probably four or five generations to fix it if it can even be fixed at all. Once socialism gets in, it’s in. It’s near to impossible to get out.

This “revolution” you speak of will cost lives. You okay with that? You want to see close family members perhaps get killed, get caught in riots or get hurt?

Weapons grade st00pid.

kim roy on February 12, 2013 at 4:01 PM

So enjoy all this – you voted for it!

kim roy on February 12, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Oh I am … as I’ve said – reason I voted for Obama was to ensure that the day of reckoning for the GOP Ayatollahs came sooner rather than later.

I’ve turned out to be spot on accurate in that – as the Ayatollahs are in complete thermonuclear meltdown.

Obama’s second term will result in a GOP controlled by the Tea Party.

And that’s a POSITIVE THING.

HondaV65 on February 12, 2013 at 4:01 PM

I wonder how Lugar and Castle would’ve voted? /

sauldalinsky on February 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM

But what about this letter from Lindsey/McCain/Ayotte that was sent today? And they stated They would hold up the vote until they got an answer!

First Link is actual letter
Second link is Twitchy

D-fusit on February 12, 2013 at 4:03 PM

This “revolution” you speak of will cost lives. You okay with that? You want to see close family members perhaps get killed, get caught in riots or get hurt?

Weapons grade st00pid.

kim roy on February 12, 2013 at 4:01 PM

First of all – I’ve repeatedly said that we are too far gone for anyone to fix this stuff. If you’re going to put me up rent free in your head then please read the stuff I write fool.

Second … yeah I’m fine with it costing lives. Freedom actually COSTS lives and the American people have forgotten that. Time for them to relearn the lesson.

Not worried about my family – they’re covered.

HondaV65 on February 12, 2013 at 4:03 PM

On the bright side, Biden is about to become only the second biggest moron in the Obama administration, so there’s that.

SoRight on February 12, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Susan Collins, R-Maine, will soon announce backing Chuck Hagel [...]
Remember, to date, not a single Senate Democrat has said he/she will oppose Hagel. That’s 55 votes in the bank. Thad Cochran is 56 and Collins would be 57. Murkowski’s a safe bet in situations like this

“It’s so crucially, deathly important to elect any given Republican candidate, always, because — gee, after all — as long as they’re voting with us 80 70 60 50 40 30 20 10% of the time…!”
/online CINO apologia choir

Kent18 on February 12, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Weapons grade st00pid.

kim roy on February 12, 2013 at 4:01 PM

There’s no numbers in the word “stupid” … stupid. :D

HondaV65 on February 12, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Oh I am … as I’ve said – reason I voted for Obama was to ensure that the day of reckoning for the GOP Ayatollahs came sooner rather than later.

I’ve turned out to be spot on accurate in that – as the Ayatollahs are in complete thermonuclear meltdown.

Obama’s second term will result in a GOP controlled by the Tea Party.

And that’s a POSITIVE THING.

HondaV65 on February 12, 2013 at 4:01 PM

No, it’s not you moron. You really think the GOPe is going to give up so easily? You think amnesty and ObamaCare are going to be easy to get rid of?

And why couldn’t this be done without Obama in office? It took about 45 years to get to this state where 50+ million people vote for free crap. You think it can be undone in a couple of years.

No wonder you are an Obama voter. You are really that stupid.

SMH.

kim roy on February 12, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Little boy Graham Cracker was just getting free film for his re-election adds.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 12, 2013 at 3:55 PM

That’s the real story. This was a fix from the beginning. Graham and Mcain are worst then Collins. She takes one for the team because her base is liberal while the 2 hacks from conservative states, like you said, cut ads.

BoxHead1 on February 12, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Come on KingGold. Defend this.

portlandon on February 12, 2013 at 3:58 PM

It’s not just Collins. What about Thad Cochran, a red state Republican? Heller? The problem lies with these idiots voting for the guy because he used to be in the Senate. Apparently even a disastrous confirmation hearing and even more questions don’t derail professional “courtesy”, which is outrageous. And it’s not just blue staters guilty of that.

changer1701 on February 12, 2013 at 4:08 PM

First of all – I’ve repeatedly said that we are too far gone for anyone to fix this stuff. If you’re going to put me up rent free in your head then please read the stuff I write fool.

Second … yeah I’m fine with it costing lives. Freedom actually COSTS lives and the American people have forgotten that. Time for them to relearn the lesson.

Not worried about my family – they’re covered.

HondaV65 on February 12, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Yep. The perfect Obama voter.

I only do this so no one else gets the mistaken impression that you are any kind of conservative.

Just a moby Obama voter.

kim roy on February 12, 2013 at 4:09 PM

No, it’s not you moron. You really think the GOPe is going to give up so easily? You think amnesty and ObamaCare are going to be easy to get rid of?

And why couldn’t this be done without Obama in office? It took about 45 years to get to this state where 50+ million people vote for free crap. You think it can be undone in a couple of years.

No wonder you are an Obama voter. You are really that stupid.

SMH.

kim roy on February 12, 2013 at 4:07 PM

You really are stupid to believe that we could have thrown the Ayatollahs out of office with Willard sitting in the Oval Office.

I mean seriously dude … you’re weapons grade grade school in your thinking.

Watch ‘em now though – they’re melting down on a daily basis and it’s coming quick. After they cave on the sequester – the destruction will be self-sustaining.

HondaV65 on February 12, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Yep. The perfect Obama voter.

I only do this so no one else gets the mistaken impression that you are any kind of conservative.

Just a moby Obama voter.

kim roy on February 12, 2013 at 4:09 PM

I am a conservative … an enlightened conservative. I’m not a slave to the Ayatollahs as you are.

You vote for RINO Republicans and call yourself conservative – while your RINO masters have moved this nation farther to the left every time they’ve been put in charge.

You might be conservative … but you’re a dumass too.

HondaV65 on February 12, 2013 at 4:11 PM

Another nail in the coffin of this once great country. I think there is a lot of truth in that Boom Town documentary. No one has any principles or will stick up for us or our country.

Mirimichi on February 12, 2013 at 4:11 PM

So Collins is responsible for Obamacare and Hagel. Well… at least she votes for Republican stuff most of the rest of the time. R-right? Guys? Anyone?

DrAllecon on February 12, 2013 at 4:12 PM

You really are stupid to believe that we could have thrown the Ayatollahs out of office with Willard sitting in the Oval Office.

I mean seriously dude … you’re weapons grade grade school in your thinking.

Watch ‘em now though – they’re melting down on a daily basis and it’s coming quick. After they cave on the sequester – the destruction will be self-sustaining.

HondaV65 on February 12, 2013 at 4:09 PM

It would have taken maybe 4-5 cycles for congress and a couple for the senate, but yes. It was possible.

Enjoy your chaos. We’ll have this discussion in a year or so, but sadly I think I’ll be right.

Enjoy the next decade of Democratic government. You voted for it.

kim roy on February 12, 2013 at 4:13 PM

And according to the Gospel of Rove, we are supposed to fall in line and elect more Senators like Susan Collins? I guess we could have counted on Todd Akin not to betray us, despite his foibles.

Are we to assume that McConnell will be disciplining the errant RINOs (ala Boehner) by stripping them of their plum Committee assignments? Or that is a punishment reserved only for conservatives?

TheRightMan on February 12, 2013 at 4:13 PM

No wonder you are an Obama voter. You are really that stupid.

SMH.

kim roy on February 12, 2013 at 4:07 PM

See, you have to vote for Obama, and donate to Elizabeth Warren’s campaign, and be pro-choice, so they’ll own it all and conservatism will rise again. They win, they get to pass stuff and push their agenda further down our throats, but we get…well, I don’t know what we get. The occasional “Tea Party” officeholder who will inevitably be pilloried once they vote “wrong”? Yay us.

All part of the grand plan. /

changer1701 on February 12, 2013 at 4:15 PM

Complain all you want about susan collins and the ‘other’ Rs that like to vote with the Ds, to the detriment of the country, but until the clueless sheeples that vote these people into office feel some pain for their decisions, it won’t change.

You need to start penalizing the states where these people come from. refuse to buy products made there. Don’t take vacations there, don’t spend a dime there. Its the people in the state that elect these clowns that cause YOU to pay for the decisions.

I personally don’t spend any money or buy products from MA, NY, DE, ME, AZ, CA, MI, IL, VT, NV and soon to be added to the list is OH, WA, and MD. I plan vacations to states like TX, OK, LA, NC, SC and WV.

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Resist We Much on February 12, 2013 at 4:16 PM

It would have taken maybe 4-5 cycles for congress and a couple for the senate, but yes. It was possible.

Enjoy your chaos. We’ll have this discussion in a year or so, but sadly I think I’ll be right.

Enjoy the next decade of Democratic government. You voted for it.

kim roy on February 12, 2013 at 4:13 PM

You’ll be right about what? If the Ayatollahs get thrown from power you’ll have me to thank for voting for Obama – because it would have NEVER happened with Willard in the oval office.

But … enjoy the chaos? Hell, I don’t enjoy it … but I recognize that the only way you can get people to stop voting for free stuff is to …

RUN OUT OF FREE STUFF.

It’s gonna hurt like a mothafaxxor … but once thing’s burned to the ground we can rebuild it the way it’s supposed to be.

HondaV65 on February 12, 2013 at 4:16 PM

That’s 55 votes in the bank. Thad Cochran is 56 and Collins would be 57.

You forgot Mike Johanns (R-NE). He’s already announced his support for Hagel’s confirmation. They go back a ways, which is probably the only reason he’s breaking with the Senate GOP on this.

There’s really no point if finding the votes anymore. Unless Obama decides to pull the nomination for some reason, he’s going to be confirmed.

LukeinNE on February 12, 2013 at 4:18 PM

See, you have to vote for Obama, and donate to Elizabeth Warren’s campaign, and be pro-choice, so they’ll own it all and conservatism will rise again. They win, they get to pass stuff and push their agenda further down our throats, but we get…well, I don’t know what we get. The occasional “Tea Party” officeholder who will inevitably be pilloried once they vote “wrong”? Yay us.

All part of the grand plan. /

changer1701 on February 12, 2013 at 4:15 PM

It sucks to be you … an Ayatollah apologist in a thread who’s subject involves an inexcusable vote by a RINO.

You can’t defend Collins … so attack me. I’m up for it! LOL

HondaV65 on February 12, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Just heard DeMint on beck’s show singing El Marco’s praises. Another RINO in sheeps clothing.

Mr. Arrogant on February 12, 2013 at 4:19 PM

You’ll be right about what? If the Ayatollahs get thrown from power you’ll have me to thank for voting for Obama – because it would have NEVER happened with Willard in the oval office.

But … enjoy the chaos? Hell, I don’t enjoy it … but I recognize that the only way you can get people to stop voting for free stuff is to …

RUN OUT OF FREE STUFF.

It’s gonna hurt like a mothafaxxor … but once thing’s burned to the ground we can rebuild it the way it’s supposed to be.

HondaV65 on February 12, 2013 at 4:16 PM

You mean like how the Soviets learned and how China is being run? You mean *that* burn to the ground? How many millions dead and finally you end up with someone like Putin in charge or like China where millions are dead and still have the ChiComs in charge?

Or how about how “gentler” socialist countries like Canada and Sweden where it will NEVER leave? You mean how that free stuff *hasn’t* run out and people just get taxed up the wazoo and the government makes most decisions and people turn into sheep?

Sounds like a winner. *eyeroll*

kim roy on February 12, 2013 at 4:21 PM

So Collins is responsible for Obamacare and Hagel. Well… at least she votes for Republican stuff most of the rest of the time. R-right? Guys? Anyone?

DrAllecon on February 12, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Collins didn’t vote for Obamacare. She was one of 3 – with Snowe and Specter – Republicans that voted for the Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Stimulus Act of 2009.

Resist We Much on February 12, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Resist We Much on February 12, 2013 at 4:16 PM

Thanks for the heads-up.

Limerick on February 12, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Oh and by the way, Honda. The liberals have been at this for about 50 years. You think they’re going to let it go t!ts up this easy.

SIGH.

kim roy on February 12, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Eh we will see. I can envision some of those R’s not getting re-elected next cycle. Like that ding dong from Nebraska on the ACA (oxymoron) abortion issue.

jake49 on February 12, 2013 at 4:23 PM

When was the last time a secretary of defense was not confirmed when a majority of the President party controlled the Senate?… I do not think it ever happened in the modern times… Yeah the guy is an a**hole but did you people delude yourself that he will not be confirmed when democrats control the Senate… Does it really matter who the secretary of defense under this most incompetent President ever? You people are fighting the wrong battles… f***ing focus on more important stuff…

mnjg on February 12, 2013 at 4:25 PM

R votes for Hagel show who needs to be Primaried.

BTW, just what foreign money has Hagel taken – he never did supply a list of his paid-speech patrons.

Do Hagel and Brennan share the same PayMaster?

Another Drew on February 12, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Sounds like a winner. *eyeroll*

kim roy on February 12, 2013 at 4:21 PM

I seriously don’t get your complaints.

The Senate GOP Establishment has made it their top agenda to recruit RINOs, who inevitably turn around to stab us in the back. Specter, Crist, Collins, etc… the list goes on.

And you believe the solution is to do what? Keep voting them into power?

TheRightMan on February 12, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Thanks for the heads-up.

Limerick on February 12, 2013 at 4:22 PM

You’re welcome. Hopefully, it is him and no police officers or bystanders are injured or killed.

If Django Dorner is killed, I’m sure that he will supplant Che and Mumia on t-shirts worn by the Left for a while or longer.

Pic of the Day: “In Dorner’s Corner”

Resist We Much on February 12, 2013 at 4:27 PM

It sucks to be you … an Ayatollah apologist in a thread who’s subject involves an inexcusable vote by a RINO.

You can’t defend Collins … so attack me. I’m up for it! LOL

HondaV65 on February 12, 2013 at 4:19 PM

I’m not trying to defend Collins. I just think it’s hilarious that a pro-choice Obama voter wants to preach to the rest of us about conservatism, or how it’s all part of some grand plan to bring about the end of the GOP ‘ayatollahs’. LOL.

changer1701 on February 12, 2013 at 4:28 PM

What’s new here, Susan Collins and all the RINOs will vote for Hagel, that will make it 95 to 3 and 2 not voting for this garbage Obama put up. The U S Senate is not made up of wise old men and women, it’s made up of old politically correct fools, and political correctness amounts to a lack of common sense.

savage24 on February 12, 2013 at 4:29 PM

I seriously don’t get your complaints.

The Senate GOP Establishment has made it their top agenda to recruit RINOs, who inevitably turn around to stab us in the back. Specter, Crist, Collins, etc… the list goes on.

And you believe the solution is to do what? Keep voting them into power?

TheRightMan on February 12, 2013 at 4:26 PM

I’m really not sure where you got that impression, especially since I have been saying in these posts the opposite. You haven’t seen or paid attention to my other multitude of repetitive posts where I say it will take time and effort to clean up the GOP or start a viable third party. I’m not going to repeat it.

The most important thing was to get rid of Obama, his idiot “choices” and his Marxism even if it was RINO Romney. It is much easier to make changes when not pulling knives out of our backs.

kim roy on February 12, 2013 at 4:31 PM

And you believe the solution is to do what? Keep voting them into power?

TheRightMan on February 12, 2013 at 4:26 PM

The most important thing was to get rid of Obama, his idiot “choices” and his Marxism even if it was RINO Romney. It is much easier to make changes when not pulling knives out of our backs.

kim roy on February 12, 2013 at 4:31 PM

So when do you think the Democrats will stop being socialists? Otherwise your advice is to keep voting for RINOs instead of the Democratic socialists.

Why would the GOP ever stop running RINOs if you will never stop voting for them?

sharrukin on February 12, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Limerick on February 12, 2013 at 4:22 PM

News reports are coming in that say that there is an ongoing shooting scene in Big Bear. Reservists are being called to report to the scene.

LA Times: Christopher Dorner in gun battle with authorities, source says

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/manhunt-christopher-dorner-big-bear.html

Resist We Much on February 12, 2013 at 4:36 PM

AP… Kirk is already on record as a “no” vote. He was concerned about Hagel’s lack of knowledge of Iran.

Illinidiva on February 12, 2013 at 4:37 PM

The seats that the idiots Akins and Mourdoch lost would have sure in handy about now.

aunursa on February 12, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Wonder twin strikes again. *sigh*

annoyinglittletwerp on February 12, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Collins didn’t vote for Obamacare. She was one of 3 – with Snowe and Specter – Republicans that voted for the Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Stimulus Act of 2009.

Resist We Much on February 12, 2013 at 4:21 PM

I may be mistaken, but I thought she was one of the very few R’s that voted to move Obamacare from it’s “tabled” position into a “let’s bring it up for a vote” position. I do know she didn’t vote for the bill once it was finaly presented, but she certainly will always be responsible in my eyes.

DrAllecon on February 12, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Collins’ check must have finally cleared.

Sadly, I predicted Collins’ latest sellout over a week ago though I’m too lazy to find my quote on one of the Hagel threads.

(…not that it takes any mystical powers to predict Susan Collins’ treachery….)

viking01 on February 12, 2013 at 4:42 PM

The seats that the idiots Akins and Mourdoch lost Collins, Murkowski and Graham won would have sure come in handy about now.

aunursa on February 12, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Edited for accuracy.

Kent18 on February 12, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Cruz will be a no-as likely will Cornyn.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 12, 2013 at 4:44 PM

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