BuzzFeed notices that ObamaCare sticks it to the young and healthy

posted at 2:01 pm on February 12, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Almost three years after the passage of ObamaCare, BuzzFeed’s Ben Smith reports that ObamaCare is actually a wealth-redistribution system in the most regressive manner possible.  Young workers, who find it increasingly more difficult to find jobs, will end up subsidizing the health care of older workers, who are hanging onto jobs longer and longer.  The politics of this wealth transfer is nothing short of perverse, politically speaking:

But the next 12 months are likely to reveal the opposite. Imminent elements of Obama’s grandest policy move, the health-care overhaul known as ObamaCare, are calculated to screw his most passionate supporters and to transfer wealth to his worst enemies.

The passionate supporters are the youth, who voted for him by a margin of 60% to 36%, according to exit poll samples of people 29 and under. His enemies are the elderly: Mitt Romney won 56% of the votes from people 65 and over. And while one of ObamaCare’s earliest provisions was a boon to the young, allowing them to stay on their parents’ insurance through the age of 26, what follows may come as an unpleasant surprise to many of the president’s supporters. The provisions required to make any kind of health insurance plan work — not just ObamaCare, but really any plan of its sort — require healthy young people to pay more in health insurance than they consume in services, while the elderly (saved by Sarah “Death Panels” Palin from any serious attempt to ration expensive and often futile end-of-life care) consume far more than they pay in. There is always a push and pull, however, and this year will be spent laying plans to shift the burden further toward the young. …

But politics is about power and resources, not about policy and morality. AARP has no real case to make there. The current young supported Obama; and the current old opposed him.

The near-total silence on this issue is a mark of a class that is either utterly selfless (hard to believe, honestly) or, as usual, singularly bad at seeing and defending its interests.

Hey, you know who predicted this in 2010?  Me, and just about everyone else who could do math.  In fact, just days after the bill’s passage, the Associated Press reported on the expected premium hike for younger policyholders:

Under the health care overhaul, young adults who buy their own insurance will carry a heavier burden of the medical costs of older Americans — a shift expected to raise insurance premiums for young people when the plan takes full effect.

Beginning in 2014, most Americans will be required to buy insurance or pay a tax penalty. That’s when premiums for young adults seeking coverage on the individual market would likely climb by 17 percent on average, or roughly $42 a month, according to an analysis of the plan conducted for The Associated Press. The analysis did not factor in tax credits to help offset the increase.

The higher costs will pinch many people in their 20s and early 30s who are struggling to start or advance their careers with the highest unemployment rate in 26 years.

Thanks to ObamaCare’s mandates for comprehensive insurance, younger and healthier workers have no choice but to subsidize the premiums of older and sicker workers through their premiums.  In fact, I explained this before the passage of the ACA, in December 2009 when “Rock the Vote” proposed to get young people to withhold sex from anyone opposed to ObamaCare, apparently so that they could get screwed in both senses of the word:

First, the young people to whom they’re preaching largely avoid buying health insurance, and for good reason. They don’t need to spend $3600 per year (Minnesota’s average in 2007) to cover a couple of doctor visits every year. They’re better off buying catastrophic health insurance, rather than the mandated comprehensive coverage under ObamaCare, and use HSAs to pay for their health care with tax-free cash. That’s what Keith Olbermann does, after all, and he’s a lot older than the RtV target audience.

Who benefits from this push? The young adults don’t; they’re going to pay a lot more than they receive. Insurance companies will benefit by forcing them into the system, reducing the risk and spreading the costs over a wider base. I don’t consider insurance companies evil, but many of the ObamaCare advocates do — and yet they’re pushing their followers to subsidize slight declines in health insurance premiums for the older generations in America. It’s just like Social Security, only with a worse payoff in the end.

And in September 2009, I wrote a column for the now-defunct AIP explaining that the combination of HSAs, far-cheaper hospitalization insurance, and retail clinics would not only save younger and healthier people a boatload of money, it would also bend the overall cost curve downward by restoring pricing signals to the consumer rather than third-party payers.  That would put more of the actual cost of health care on those who utilize it.  I’m no special genius — but I can do math and know that most young people under 35 didn’t spend anywhere near enough to justify $3600 a year in comprehensive-insurance premiums, and won’t under ObamaCare, either, especially as premiums skyrocket.  Where does the rest of the money go in a risk pool?   It subsidizes those who do utilize providers more, the older and sicker.

Why didn’t Ben (who, by the way, is a nice guy and fun to work with otherwise) do the math himself three or more years ago?  Er …

The voices raised against age rating and other policies tend not to be the most credible. They are, first, conservatives who simply see this as another wedge against Obama and his new policy. Outlandish rhetoric about the health-care law’s threat to American freedom can make it hard for members of either party to consider policy on the merits; and so the proposal from Georgia Rep. Phil Gingrey (in the news of late for theorizing that ” tense and uptight” women, like, say, rape victims, are less likely to conceive children) to leave age discount decisions with the states is generally considered as gimmicky as its name: The Liberty Act. (It’s short for “Letting Insurance Benefit Everyone Regardless of Their Youth.”)

So no one did math because we conservatives didn’t like Obama and didn’t trust him? Maybe that’s because we actually did the math when it counted.  If more younger voters did the math in 2009, 2010, and especially 2012, perhaps they wouldn’t be on the hook for subsidies for older, wealthier Americans.

I’d say this gets the Eric “Otter” Stratton Award (NSFW):

Update: Reason’s Nick Gillespie points out some other ways in which Obama is sticking it to the younger generation:

As my colleague Matt Welch pointed out yesterday, SOTUs are equal parts WTF and completely forgettable, so it’ll all be over soon except for the ardent declarations that we can make lifesaving machines more quickly in a zero-gravity environment.

But if proprietor of the most open and transparent and clean-smelling administration of all time wants to make some real news, he might speak honestly to the segment of the American electorate that he is screwing over six ways to Sunday: Young voters between the ages of 18 and 29. Listen up, kids! Your parents are robbing your futures blind and you’re chumps enough not only to go along but to ask – like the adorable title orphan in the classic baby boomer musical Oliver! - please, sir, I want some more.

From virtually every possible angle, Obama is helping to diminish the prospects for today’s younger generation. First and foremost, his response to the Great Recession – stimulus and the massive piling up of debt – is slowing the recovery. Massive regulatory schemes such as Dodd-Frank and the creation of huge new soul-and-bucks-sucking programs such as Obamacare weigh heavily on the economy now and in the future too. His refusal to discuss seriously old-age entitlement reform – Medicare and Social Security and the 60 percent of Medicare that goes to old folks – is massive storm front on the economic horizon. His preference for secrecy and overreach when it comes to executive power won’t screw young people as obviously as his economic policies, but when he leaves office in 2017, he will have created far more terrorists than he needed to.

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The Apostle Paul is starting to look more and more freaky-deaky!

SouthernGent on May 16, 2013 at 10:14 PM

But of course they would never be partisan about who gets healthcare — just because it is that way in every other country that has socialized medicine, that doesn’t mean it would happen here.

/sarc off

Axion on May 16, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Your desire for a cigarette is worth 10 bonus points, though. I’ll have one in your honor.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 16, 2013 at 9:48 PM

Thank you.

Resist We Much on May 16, 2013 at 10:18 PM

She cannot remain in her position.

BuckeyeSam on May 16, 2013 at 10:18 PM

“We see you bought a gun last year, Citizen, and we now wish to inform you that you are no longer eligible for medical care.”

Bishop on May 16, 2013 at 10:20 PM

50 + K a year in bonuses over two years.

workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Conservative,, the new 1930′s jew.

This is bullshit.

wolly4321 on May 16, 2013 at 10:21 PM

mark81150 on May 16, 2013 at 10:04 PM

It’s possible that’s exactly what the Rat-Eared Ba$tard wants. Have you considered that?

slickwillie2001 on May 16, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Could be.. but I think he vastly over estimates his chances.. he is no Lincoln, who has righteousness on his side.. Lincoln wasn’t working to put chains ON people, Obama is..

I firmly believe the rank and file dems, regular moderates, their remaining conservatives.. will walk before signing on… plus the passion gap is huge,.. Our bloodiest was was fought with rifled muskets,.. another..

the carnage is unthinkable.. maybe they’ll shrink from it… we won’t be sent to gulags, and his passion to use federal agencies to punish normal Americans has GOT to wake most people up.. He may want an excuse to get a war with red State America..

but we won’t give him the excuse by starting it..

he’ll have to do that on his own.

I’ve never imagined before.. the blues are so hateful, so drunk on power.. they would think making being on the right a crime is something they would ever be allowed to get away with. The left has always been little Eichmann’s.. but never so openly.. or to actually use government as a weapon.

but as you suggest.. the stunning revelations make you wonder..

does he want a civil war?

mark81150 on May 16, 2013 at 10:25 PM

The news takes this tweet from taunting to foreboding:

exactly. Message sent…and now received. I had seen the several tweets wrt obamacare…and clearly, now we see.

Obama is pretty sure he’ll be getting away with this. Basically a twofer…now that he’s re-elected. One…surprise…we got you good you tea partiers…and you anti-abortion people…Two..and oh, btw, you guys that work for my government? Well, no snitching to the AP, or anyone else

obama has always told us that if the congress didn’t do x he would implement things unilaterally. They didn’t ‘fix’ Citizens United…so he’ll fix them good

r keller on May 16, 2013 at 10:26 PM

I will try to make sense and make it short.

Others I’m sure heard the Dr. from Houston when he called Mark Levins show tonight.

This a short version of what he said:

A guy who used to use this Dr. had gone to an new Dr. re: PSA test on possible problem with prostrate ,,cancer,, this Dr. told him that he had new information from the GOVERMENT, that PSA test were not a good thing and that he would not do the test.

So this guy said , I’ll go ask my former Dr. what he thinks.
Gets to his former Dr. and (the guy who called Mark’s show) and this Dr. said hell ya you should take the PSA test it saves lives and is not a hazard at all.

Seems the Obama Care “experts” math people, accouants ect, “death pannels” made this choice as the radation, Cemo, hospital care ect. to treat a prostrate cancer very costly, but just saying no and let the person just get cancer, give the person morphine, and bury the person is much cheaper.

Some one get the audio and post it some where here or Ms Ham or your helpers do this.

Seems very important this kind of knowing.

awk

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 16, 2013 at 10:28 PM

Conservative,, the new 1930′s jew.

This is bullshit.

wolly4321 on May 16, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Insane.. but that’s the message he sent..

At least we aren’t alone, we still have conservative Jews with us, libertarians, Mormons, Catholics..

Herr Obama has cast a wide net.

mark81150 on May 16, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Reminds me of this old post: http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=77103

slickwillie2001 on May 16, 2013 at 9:55 PM

slick, I was already fired up and now you made me go and get another drink.
He–Chicago jeezus, would suck his own crank if he could. Course, he doesn’t need to anymore since there seems to be a plethora of clean up crews out there to take care of any business he desires.

arnold ziffel on May 16, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Set up the power structure, then cause one of these…

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht.

Then take the guns.

I don’t know in what order but we are being set up.

wolly4321 on May 16, 2013 at 10:29 PM

does he want a civil war?
mark81150 on May 16, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Well, he and Big Sis have been buying up all the bullets, right?
A gun without bullets is probably about as lethal as a baseball bat.

marybel on May 16, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Liberals like HAL enjoy reading themselves, but they have neither clue nor experience being Conservative or Christian.

Liam on May 16, 2013 at 10:00 PM

VorDaj on May 16, 2013 at 9:56 PM

Strong Men Tend To Be Conservative

Now, you know why HAL is a liberal…

Resist We Much on May 16, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Getting pretty tired of people who should already know better (and act accordingly) suddenly discovering that every public employee union member in this country almost without exception is a left-wing nutter who dutifully hates on whomever and whatever their union and/or Demo sugar daddies tell them to hate on.

Sacramento on May 16, 2013 at 10:33 PM

I’ve been looking for a photo of this woman, Drudge found it. Who’s going to jail? asks Boehner, I’d say this chick.

Marcus on May 16, 2013 at 10:34 PM

Don’t ever say ….
HE WOULDN’T DARE

Lucano on May 16, 2013 at 10:35 PM

BuckeyeSam- Holder still has a job. Right?

Who’s gonna fire her? Barky will sing praise.

The left loves them. Holder, ried, pelosi, schumer, durbin,nappyhoe, clinton, sebillious, ,,,,

It’s a long list. With the msm, they’re bulletproof.

wolly4321 on May 16, 2013 at 10:36 PM

Marcus- she won’t go to jail. She’ll get a bonus. And extra-Constitutional powers.

wolly4321 on May 16, 2013 at 10:40 PM

Seems the Obama Care “experts” math people, accouants ect, “death pannels” made this choice as the radation, Cemo, hospital care ect. to treat a prostrate cancer very costly, but just saying no and let the person just get cancer, give the person morphine, and bury the person is much cheaper.

Some one get the audio and post it some where here or Ms Ham or your helpers do this.

Seems very important this kind of knowing.

awk

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 16, 2013 at 10:28 PM

Perfect sense.. as it stands..

The workers comp burea controls my medical care.. even though a new MRI reveals a signifigant worsening on the 4th of my herniated disacs, and is smashing hard into a primary nerve root.. the first doctor said no to the surgery, and refused a second opinion, apppeal was rejected..

my Doc after running his hands through his hair in frustration, said.. you may have to go outside the system, see if medicare will cover it. Over the last few weeks, the pain has worsened a lot.. I’m now.. for the first time since the bones were crushed, and having truoble walking, my legs are unstable.. and cut out without warning for several seconds..

and now..

How can I know that my medicare case isn’t filed under a bright red C?.. or the workers comp claim file?

how will we know if we aren’t being fast tracked for the “Ignore.. F**k em” file?

Obama put in our minds the very very frightening notion, you are being punished for a thought crime. All by using the IRS and EPA plus others as weaponized versions of the liberal agenda..

How can I know my care is based on medical decisions and not political ones?

how can any of us now?

That bas@rd has much to answer for.

mark81150 on May 16, 2013 at 10:40 PM

How can I know my care is based on medical decisions and not political ones?

how can any of us now?

That bas@rd has much to answer for.

mark81150 on May 16, 2013 at 10:40 PM

but that is his goal isn’t it?

censor yourself into silence.. be a Good German.. or pay..

the only American answer.. is a hearty GFY and going after him even harder.

mark81150 on May 16, 2013 at 10:44 PM

The evil choice these two bit commie thug democrats and msm have made is that the commie democrats will spend the tax money to buy votes from the people in the unions, the ones on the dole and they will not spend the tax money on people they think will not vote for them. They have over taxed, over spent and they have run up the debt so high the world soon will not loan them any more cash flow , so the choice they have taken is to kill U.S. who do not vote for them off.

It is a great and growing evil.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 16, 2013 at 10:50 PM

He–Chicago jeezus, would suck his own crank if he could. Course, he doesn’t need to anymore since there seems to be a plethora of clean up crews out there to take care of any business he desires.

arnold ziffel on May 16, 2013 at 10:29 PM

He put a quarter slot in the little door in front of his desk. Pelosi spent all day running up and down Pennsylvania Ave breaking dollar bills. Can you imagine that shiny old taught face looking up from your crotch.?

BacaDog on May 16, 2013 at 10:51 PM

It won’t be a blue dress that gets him. It will be Nancy’s chinhairs.

BacaDog on May 16, 2013 at 10:54 PM

gee wizz

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 16, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Best medical advise my Dr. has given me of late.

“Buy more ammo , be on guard…”

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 16, 2013 at 11:00 PM

There is no way for them to “get the guns”.
There are at least 50,000,000 unregistered guns in the US.
Their first shots begin the carnage.
Look up “Bill Clinton’s Rules of Engagement” for Bosnia.
25 Million Dead
Good luck with that idea.
The 500 meter solution
III/0317

dirtengineer on May 16, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Its.The.Law.

But it will never be fully implemented because it doesn’t work.I love watching libs demonstrate their lack of intelligence. They are broke and stupid.

I can’t wait to watch all the mind numbed robots the prez’s GOTV brought in when their checks quit coming.

Remember – libs, progs, fascists – believe in nothing but power. If you think they care about you, ask them why under their reign the only group doing well is the wealthy.

Zomcon JEM on May 16, 2013 at 11:07 PM

It’s the law?

So is DOMA.

HopeHeFails on May 16, 2013 at 11:33 PM

It’s the law?

So is DOMA.

HopeHeFails on May 16, 2013 at 11:33 PM

Touche’

workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 11:40 PM

the only American answer.. is a hearty GFY and going after him even harder.

mark81150 on May 16, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Hang in there. And, switch your party affiliation to a “D” just in case.

txhsmom on May 16, 2013 at 11:49 PM

It’s. The. Law.

Crossed the Rubicon.

oryguncon on May 16, 2013 at 11:49 PM

It’s. The. Law.

Analogy just hit me:

It’s. The. Stamp. Act.

That worked out well…

de rigueur on May 16, 2013 at 11:57 PM

but as you suggest.. the stunning revelations make you wonder..

does he want a civil war?

mark81150 on May 16, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Yes.

And he probably thinks he can win such a civil war because, to him, he holds all the cards and positions of power. To him, he controls the media, he controls the under-30 crowd, he controls the opposition, he controls all minorities, he controls our health care and our money, and he wants to confiscate our guns and destroy our way of life.

But what we are seeing is a man so devoted to power and control, that he is starting to implode upon himself as this drumbeat of revelations goes on… and on… and on. He wants a civil war, but his administration is coming apart at the seams in shocking fashion.

History has proven, over and over, that such control freaks with the mentality Obama possesses never have a happy ending.

Never underestimate the firm power of karma.

Myron Falwell on May 17, 2013 at 12:37 AM

does he want a civil war?
mark81150 on May 16, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Yes I think he does.

Axion on May 17, 2013 at 12:42 AM

Thanks John Roberts…

PatriotRider on May 17, 2013 at 12:45 AM

-Il Douche has all the right character traits for a dictator: narcissist;bigot;amoral;anti-American;ultra-leftist;petty;vindictive;huge chip on his shoulder. These traits have been bred into him and re-enforced throughout his lifetime.
-A fascist state and tyranny of the left is clearly his goal. There is nothing that he will not do to establish this. So far, he has been able to achieve his goals peacefully, albeit deceptively, unfairly, probably unconstitutionally and likely illegally in many cases. His ability to achieve his goals thus far has been largely thanks to a generally ignorant and apathetic voting public, a very supportive and corrupt media, and a spineless and confused opposition.
-He is very likely frustrated by having any constraints at all. I have no doubt that he would like nothing more than to unburden himself of any and all constraints by whatever means necessary. If and when he reaches a road block (real or imagined), he will let loose. And this will be when he resorts to the use of violence.
-It’s all laid out for us in the history of dictatorships. And displayed in the history and observable character of Obama himself (what little history of him that there actually is, incredibly enough).
-I see a bad moon arising.

justltl on May 17, 2013 at 12:46 AM

No.

NO.

This cannot stand.

Midas on May 17, 2013 at 12:57 AM

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 16, 2013 at 10:28 PM

They’ve already been doing that; starting to walk back the advantages of preventative care like mammograms, saying it’s too costly for all these women to have all these early screenings – it’s not ‘necessary’, you see – so we can do with having fewer of them, you see – and if some more women get breast cancer and die, it’s still cheaper than paying for all these mammograms, you see…

Midas on May 17, 2013 at 1:04 AM

I suspect that somewhere in the White House, hidden from view, Il Douche has a large whiteboard hanging with these names written on it: Fox News; Talk Radio; Rush Limbaugh; the Internet.

justltl on May 17, 2013 at 1:08 AM

Big Mooch likely has a smaller one hanging with names like: Lobster;Cheeseburger;French Fries;Vacations;Louis Vuitton; Omar the Tentmaker, etc.

justltl on May 17, 2013 at 1:14 AM

So she’s the one who’s going to make it hard for me to get medical treatment because I’m in the Tea Party. It’s interesting to be able to put a face to it.

Alana on May 17, 2013 at 2:28 AM

Konservativen nicht erlaubt!

HICON on May 17, 2013 at 3:25 AM

History has proven, over and over, that such control freaks with the mentality Obama possesses never have a happy ending.

Never underestimate the firm power of karma.

Myron Falwell on May 17, 2013 at 12:37 AM

And the libs see it falling apart too. They become more shrill and desperate each day.

dogsoldier on May 17, 2013 at 5:50 AM

So… when is Sarah Hall Ingram going to prison?

locomotivebreath1901 on May 17, 2013 at 6:13 AM

My take.

kingsjester on May 17, 2013 at 6:44 AM

“It’s the law” = Excuse for most tyrants.

fatlibertarianinokc on May 17, 2013 at 6:49 AM

Like the immigration laws that are so faithfully enforced?

MPan on May 17, 2013 at 7:28 AM

Does it really matter which maggot is/was where in this garbage can? Move one and another gazillion maggots are ready to take it’s place.

the cure: in order.
1. Dump the IRS from Obamacare (don’t fund them)
2. Dump Obamacare (the masses will help)
3. Dump the maggots in 2014 (see above)
4. 2016 Fumigate the barrel that the new maggots don’t enter. (that means keep the RINOs far away from feeding on our carcasses)

Don L on May 17, 2013 at 7:44 AM

I have just three words for Ms. Sarah Hall Ingram, who used her position as a faceless bureaucrat to torment tea party groups, but who is no longer anonymous – “Payback’s a bitch!”

chazmaz on May 17, 2013 at 7:48 AM

Sarah Hall Ingram is a career IRS employee, having graduated from Georgetown Law in 1982 to start her career in IRS Tax Litigation

Harvard, Georgetown; it’s amazing how these once solid religious institutions have became the breeding grounds for stocking society with immoral unprincipled puppets.

Don L on May 17, 2013 at 7:50 AM

So… when is Sarah Hall Ingram going to prison?

locomotivebreath1901 on May 17, 2013 at 6:13 AM

I pray they all go to prison very soon.

dogsoldier on May 17, 2013 at 7:59 AM

It’s just a coincidence….

Just because the Obama administration used ‘leaked’ personal tax info to attack the Koch brothers in 2010 doesn’t mean Obama knew about the on-going scandal or that the information was used for political reasons….

Just because Obama’s 2012 Presidential campaign co-chair used Romney’s personal tax info to publicly attack Romney doesn’t mean Obama knew about the on-going scandal or that the information was used for political reasons….

Just because during the 2012 campaign Harry Reid in a press conference used Romney tax data to declare Romney had not paid taxes in years then challenged him to release those documents so everyone could see doesn’t mean Obama knew about the on-going scandal or that the information was used for political reasons….

Just because Obama’s criminal tax-data stealing, Conservative/TEA Party/Jewish-targeting should-be-in-jail IRS mobster has now been hand-picked & placed in charge of Obamacare’s Tax enforcement doesn’t mean Obama knew about the on-going scandal or that the information was used for political reasons….or that this new position will be further used to intimidate & punish those same groups!

easyt65 on May 17, 2013 at 8:30 AM

we won’t be sent to gulags

they won’t need gulags… they have our families’ health care in their grip…

and his passion to use federal agencies to punish normal Americans has GOT to wake most people up…

only if the media covers the story going forward… they’re the ones who enabled this mess to begin with…

shinty on May 17, 2013 at 9:21 AM

ot only is the IRS not an “independent” agency, but it appears
that the substantial bonuses received by the head of the IRS tax-exempt division when the targeting of conservative groups occurred would have been approved by the White House because they exceeded $25,000.

J_Crater on May 17, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Asking for internal controls is not a radical idea. It happens everywhere, in every kind of organization. External auditors look for internal controls in audits of financial statements of all kinds of businesses, and write it up when they are lacking. The Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration looks for them when it reviews TE/GE’s programs. It is a familiar concept.

What all this spells out to me is that instead of incremental destruction of the country that the forces of the left have practiced historically lets bullet train everything. Hillary looks like a better than 50% bet to win in 2016 so why slow track socialism.
Let it all out and rapid fire everything they can get through. Obamacare and other commie/socialistc bills on the way and already in due to EO’s now become perfect vehicles for promoting socialism.
ITs the middle nearing the end of our way oflife.Its socialism warping into communism and the destructionof capitalism and our Republic.

rodguy911 on May 17, 2013 at 9:39 AM

All women behind these scandals. It’s becoming embarrassing.

monalisa on May 16, 2013 at 9:39 PM

That’s a woman? She really does look like Terry Jones in drag. Where does Obama find them?

totherightofthem on May 17, 2013 at 9:51 AM

All women behind these scandals. It’s becoming embarrassing.

monalisa on May 16, 2013 at 9:39 PM

LIBERAL women; I’ve got nothing against conservative women. :)

Midas on May 17, 2013 at 10:02 AM

Larry Connors, the KMOV anchor who asked Barack Obama some tough questions about his family´s vacation habits and claimed earlier this week that he might have been harassed by the IRS as a result, has been taken off the air. According to the St. Louis Dispatch, the station decided to give Connors a “few days off” while they looked into his allegations.

BOOM So now he’s been audited AND he’s gonna lose his job.

dogsoldier on May 17, 2013 at 10:17 AM

That’s a woman? She really does look like Terry Jones in drag. Where does Obama find them?

totherightofthem on May 17, 2013 at 9:51 AM

Ads up in lesbian bars all over DC.

slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 10:24 AM

Time to make yellow ‘Don’t tread on me’ armbands compulsory for conservatives, so medical care can be denied before they get inot the ER.

txdoc on May 17, 2013 at 10:29 AM

BOHICA

kirkill on May 17, 2013 at 10:38 AM

#FireSarahHallIngram

ITguy on May 17, 2013 at 11:06 AM

#FireSarahHallIngram

ITguy on May 17, 2013 at 11:06 AM

#ImprisonSarahHallIngram

kirkill on May 17, 2013 at 11:14 AM

Yes it is. Hopefully it will lead to single payer after Madame President H. Clinton is sworn in.

HotAirLib on May 16, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Thanks for speaking up. Now when Republicans get back in power, we know who to deny life-saving care to “for cost reasons”.

Saltyron on May 17, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Face it, when Obama says he knew nothing of the malfeasance of underlings that benefited him, and then does not really punish the underlings when caught, this means that he personally instructed them to do what they did (no paper trail, of course) and naturally does not want to punish them. IMO this is the default assumption that should be made.

Chessplayer on May 17, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Sarah Hall Ingram was paid a bonus mentioned here on HotAir but hasn’t been mentioned is that the bonus amount she received had to be approved by POTUS Barack Hussein Obama. If someone knows more please let me know.

If this is true Obama is full of sh!t up to his eyeballs.

hamradio on May 17, 2013 at 9:16 PM

And the dynomite goes boom.
My God, how did this little man/child get elected 2X?

mmcnamer1 on May 18, 2013 at 10:43 AM

Don’t worry, Obama will get to the bottom of all this.

Being a POS it should be very simple for him.

profitsbeard on May 18, 2013 at 11:27 AM

I just finished a very long post on the speech given by Sarah Hall Ingram in 2009. Everybody is looking for the architect. And she is right there. The speech came off the IRS website. It outlines everything!

Here is the link to the post. Read the speech (its linked) and tell me I’m wrong.

http://truthandcommonsense.com/2013/05/19/wh-says-the-woman-in-charge-of-the-irs-during-the-scandal-is-innocent-no-proof-she-did-anything-wrong-oh-man-let-me-try/

…But how was Ingram going to get from “A” (the concept) to “Z” the execution? She is kind enough to lay it out for us. She even titled it.

IRS Promotion of Good Governance

Somewhat controversially – at least to some – we have advanced the notion that there is a link between good governance and tax compliance. This concept seems intuitively true to many people. I certainly believe it; it does not seem like a controversial statement to me. But some have challenged this association of good governance and good compliance – not by pointing out cases in which well governed organizations nonetheless seriously violated the Code and put their tax-exempt status at risk – but simply by saying the point has not been proved.

These critics often note that effective governance arises from intangibles – the dedication and diligence of responsible officers and board members – rather than from the adoption of

numerous rules and procedures. These, in their view, can pile up on top of each other to such an extent that they prevent good governance rather than promote it . Knowing who is right in this discussion is not easy. We have set out to collect some information on the point. We are going to start asking agents, at the end of each examination, to fill out a check sheet about certain of the examined organization’s governance practices and internal controls. The check sheet is intended to identify instances of noncompliance found during the exam, and also to gather information about whether the organization had, and used, any internal controls. For each instance of noncompliance found – excessive compensation, political intervention, inurement, private benefit, material diversion of assets – the agent should ask, who made the decision to do it or to allow it? Was there a policy in place concerning the transition or activity, for example, and if so, was it followed? ….

At what point to we say gotcha?

Worse she goes on in greater detail explaining that is the IRS job to monitor your behavior in case you stray from being a person of good governance.

And she is in charge of IRS/Obamacare

sweeet….

archer52 on May 19, 2013 at 10:25 PM

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