Would the Obama administration really reject the Keystone XL pipeline?

posted at 10:01 pm on February 11, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

This entire time, I thought that there was hardly a real chance that the Obama administration would ultimately reject the Keystone XL pipeline when it really came down to it. Sure, they’ve been stalling out the wazoo — presumably hoping the PR furor over the proposal would die down a bit, and/or to think up some other tantalizing climate-focused projects with which to quell the green lobby’s inevitable anger — but there is too much bipartisan, international, high-profile and widespread support for the project as both a job creator and energy-security enhancer for the president to really shut it down in the end (the thing is already halfway built, for goodness’ sake). Just today, the House Energy and Commerce Committee launched a new campaign touting all of the benefits the pipeline’s construction would bring and highlighting the administration’s many delays:

 

President Obama might talk a big game of climate hawkishness and grandiose sweeping ambitions, but he can’t avoid political realities and economic pragmatism — and while we’ll surely still be treated to the usual costly regulations, green-energy “investments,” and feel-good efficiency standards to which the White House likes to point as evidence of their environmental seriousness, this pipeline is too big a deal to sacrifice (and doing so would only be a shallow symbolic gesture, anyway, seeing as how those oil sands will definitely still get used; they’ll just be shipped off to China instead).

Or is it? The green lobby is throwing everything they have at this thing, and there’s the lingering possibility it might really be enough to put off the Obama administration. Brand-new Secretary of State and longtime self-promoted climate-change champion John Kerry met with his Canadian counterpart at the close of last week, and isn’t offering many hints about which way the administration is leaning nor updates on a precise timeline for the decision:

Secretary of State John Kerry and his Canadian counterpart refused to offer hints Friday about the biggest economic decision facing their countries: the fate of the Keystone XL pipeline.

But they stressed that the U.S. and Canada agree on a host of economic and environmental causes — including climate change, the same issue that has motivated many of Keystone’s green opponents to try to kill the project.

“Canada and the United States share the same values, the history and heritage of our people,” Kerry told reporters at the State Department after a closed-door discussion with Canadian Foreign Minister John Baird on issues that included Keystone. …

Kerry said Canada and the U.S. will continue to cooperate “to meet the needs of a secure clean-energy future on this shared continent.”

Trying to work out some kind of supplementary allied climate-change agreement they can simultaneously introduce along with the pipeline’s approval to make it more palatable for the enviros, or the precursor to letting Canada down easy? Keeping the pipeline under review before the election made all the political sense in the world, but now… I’m kind of nervous.

Here are President Barack Obama’s words from his second inaugural address: “We will respond to the threat of climate change, knowing that the failure to do so would betray our children and future generations.” Thence followed 10 sentences about climate change.

In Edmonton and Ottawa, where governments had grown confident that Mr. Obama, once re-elected, would give the green light to the Keystone XL pipeline from Alberta’s bitumen oil deposits to the Gulf of Mexico, those sentences were at least worrisome, if not menacing. …

With so many other priorities – the budget deficit, gun control, immigration – why did the President spend so much of his inaugural speech on an issue the Alberta and Canadian governments figured had disappeared from his radar screen. Maybe he was just playing to history, in which case the sentences will disappear into the political ether. Or maybe he actually believes what he said.


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KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:27 AM

You got flattery down, Romeo. lol

Nice..taking the pups out?

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:29 AM

Match Box 20-blast from the past.
Reminds me of college.

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:32 AM

Axe trippin out again? You need better quality choom, dude. ;-)

tommy71 on May 19, 2013 at 1:17 AM

I don’t do drugs, I am drugs.

–Dali :)

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
;)

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:18 AM

. . .

meh, ok, score. :)

Axe on May 19, 2013 at 1:32 AM

Love…a game??

KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:32 AM

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:29 AM

I like how you roll….Sue me!

KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:34 AM

Listen to this>>>>>>xxxxxx

KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:17 AM

That was grrreat! By the way – someone further up the thread called Ken “stupid”….I need to straighten this out:

Ken is NOT stupid!

williamg on May 19, 2013 at 1:35 AM

Love…a game??

KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:32 AM

NO! I JUST DON’T WANT ANYONE SITTING ON HER!

O wait, those weren’t related.

My bad.

Carry on.

Axe on May 19, 2013 at 1:35 AM

That was grrreat! By the way – someone further up the thread called Ken “stupid”….I need to straighten this out:

Ken is NOT stupid!

williamg on May 19, 2013 at 1:35 AM

Who said Ken was stupid?

Axe on May 19, 2013 at 1:37 AM

That was grrreat! By the way – someone further up the thread called Ken “stupid”….I need to straighten this out:

Ken is NOT stupid!

williamg on May 19, 2013 at 1:35 AM

Didn’t catch that. Thanks for the correction. Troll?

KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:38 AM

I like how you roll….Sue me!

KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:34 AM

I like how you roll too.
You seem like a good man.

Who called you stupid?

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:38 AM

Here and now

KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:39 AM

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:10 AM
Screaming Yellow Zonkers were some of the Best Things EVER! Unfortunately – they don’t make them anymore……

williamg on May 19, 2013 at 1:23 AM

What were they…spicy popcorn snacks? Like a Cracker Jack but not sweet?

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:28 AM

They are kind of “cracker-jacky” – but muuuuch, muuuch better

Popcorny, peanuty…..with a lot more “buttery” in the glazing plus………something Else!

Sweet and Substantial!

williamg on May 19, 2013 at 1:39 AM

Who called you stupid?

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:38 AM

Dunno? Figured I could scroll back and find out or spend time with you. Who is stupid? ;-)

KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:41 AM

Dunno? Figured I could scroll back and find out or spend time with you. Who is stupid? ;-)

KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:41 AM

lol

– jiggles ear.

I just heard that a minute ago. Weird.

Axe on May 19, 2013 at 1:43 AM

KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:41 AM

hahahahaha..not u! (:

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:45 AM

B9??

KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:46 AM

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:45 AM

there you are!

KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:47 AM

Speaking of Hussein’s corrupt tax cheating financiers not paying their fair share ,
(Via Drudge, in RED)
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/National/article1261720.ece

A FORMER Google executive has blown the whistle on a massive and “immoral” tax avoidance scheme that has “cheated” British taxpayers out of hundreds of millions of pounds over the past decade.

Barney Jones, 34, who worked for the internet search giant between 2002 and 2006, has lifted the lid on an elaborate structure which diverts British profits through Ireland to the Bermuda tax haven.

Although Google’s London sales staff would negotiate and sign contracts with British customers, and cash was paid into a UK bank account, deals were technically booked through its Dublin office to minimise its liabilities here. Jones, a devout Christian and father of four, is ready to hand over a cache of more than 100,000 emails and documents to HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC), detailing the “concocted scheme”.

burrata on May 19, 2013 at 1:49 AM

@Ken, TY. :)
It always changes based on personal stuff.
Glad I see some of my faves when I do come to HA.

William, Did you go to the concert?

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 12:38 AM

No – wimped out….worked

williamg on May 19, 2013 at 1:52 AM

No – wimped out….worked

williamg on May 19, 2013 at 1:52 AM

:(
Next time!

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:52 AM

Drops of Jupiter

KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:53 AM

Dunno? Figured I could scroll back and find out or spend time with you. Who is stupid? ;-)

KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:41 AM

lol

– jiggles ear.

I just heard that a minute ago. Weird.

Axe on May 19, 2013 at 1:43 AM

….you know what? i can’t find it, now………

I thought I scanned by it earlier…….but I may have dreamed it………

……or maybe there IS such a thing as “flashbacks”………

……sorry……….

williamg on May 19, 2013 at 1:55 AM

Whitesnake – Judgement Day

Axe on May 19, 2013 at 1:50 AM

Perfect..
Fits for me right now.

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:56 AM

Shimmer

KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:57 AM

Staying up for Ken..maybe for axe and Will too.
Dang..everyone bailed out early.

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:58 AM

Drops of Jupiter

KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:53 AM

One of my guilty pleasures to like this song so much…….pop with heart!

williamg on May 19, 2013 at 1:59 AM

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:58 AM

Sure did. I have staying power…

KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:59 AM

….you know what? i can’t find it, now………

I thought I scanned by it earlier…….but I may have dreamed it………

……or maybe there IS such a thing as “flashbacks”………

……sorry……….

williamg on May 19, 2013 at 1:55 AM

That’s not what I meant. :)

Here’s the first time I ever read “I’d go and do that, but I want to be with you” –

It’s excellent. I have to bookmark it, though, and do it again tomorrow. I’m having to keep one eye on the thread, and this isn’t a one-eyed read. I don’t want to miss you, and . . . well, also stuff is happening (and some of us only have two eyes).

Axe on May 18, 2013 at 11:21 PM

And I meant it. :)

Here’s the second:

Dunno? Figured I could scroll back and find out or spend time with you. Who is stupid? ;-)

KCB on May 19, 2013 at 1:41 AM

lol — And I Romeo meant it too. :)

Axe on May 19, 2013 at 1:59 AM

One of my guilty pleasures to like this song so much…….pop with heart!

williamg on May 19, 2013 at 1:59 AM

It is a quality jam!

KCB on May 19, 2013 at 2:00 AM

*And I bet Romeo . . .

Axe on May 19, 2013 at 2:00 AM

Meanwhile, a man who did more to get Bin Laden than Obama sits in prison… thanks to Obama.

profitsbeard on May 19, 2013 at 2:02 AM

Hair band

KCB on May 19, 2013 at 2:02 AM

Staying up for Ken..maybe for axe and Will too.
Dang..everyone bailed out early.

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:58 AM

you’re so sweet!……..

ALL the dudes Love you – they think you’re the COOLEST!…..and they’re RIGHT!

williamg on May 19, 2013 at 2:03 AM

Everyone loves B9. How can I stand out?

KCB on May 19, 2013 at 2:05 AM

Everyone loves B9. How can I stand out?

KCB on May 19, 2013 at 2:05 AM

I don’t know, man …….maybe the answer is in the video somewhere…….

williamg on May 19, 2013 at 2:07 AM

Reel men eat doritoes.

SparkPlug on May 19, 2013 at 2:09 AM

Callin it a night. Gonna hitch a ride home.

KCB on May 19, 2013 at 2:10 AM

Reel men like fishing and filming.

SparkPlug on May 19, 2013 at 2:10 AM

lol!
No..not everyone loves B9.
But those with good taste do. ;)
Blush*
So sweet..thank you sincerely-guys.
Your pretty cool yourselves.

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 2:10 AM

Reel men eat doritoes.

SparkPlug on May 19, 2013 at 2:09 AM

*crrr-unch!*

williamg on May 19, 2013 at 2:10 AM

– I’m out. I may be awhile. I may be ready to finish up my nuclear poof. I’ve never nuclear poofed without actually nuclear poofing, but something happened, and I lost my balance. I’ve got it back. I dunno how. I dunno how I lost it. I just work here, man. Anyway, this may be awhile.

– Note that I will be missing witchy-woman. She’s trying to change the world, you know. Mostly, she comes here to work. Anyone notices this, please try to help — I won’t be around to cross link. Probably. For awhile.

Staying up for Ken..maybe for axe and Will too.
Dang..everyone bailed out early.

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:58 AM

Well maybe Axe enjoyed you around. :)

Night guys. :)

(Night Sophie.)

Axe on May 19, 2013 at 2:10 AM

Okay, I am out too.
xoxo to y’all.
Have a blessed Sunday.

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 2:11 AM

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 2:11 AM

Bye sugar muffins. Lets have waffles for breakfast. I’ll bring the agave.

SparkPlug on May 19, 2013 at 2:15 AM

Tell Twerp I went fly fishing but didn’t catch any flies.

SparkPlug on May 19, 2013 at 2:15 AM

Another day, another HA thread polluted by troll turds.

farsighted on May 18, 2013 at 9:39 PM

I blame those who take their bait more than I blame the attention-seeking trolls for the pollution created here – the trolls can only accomplish what they are enabled to…

Good evening good folks!!

HAL doesn’t know how to stop LYING and obfuscating…

Just ignore HAL…

Not really worth the time.

HAL never answers anyway…

Let HAL GO!!

Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 9:42 PM

Listen to Scrumpdillyicious: do narcissistic, amoral leftist scum like HAL and D(Bag)Bear ever listen, ever think, ever say anything interesting, or ever respectfully disagree?

Does anyone deny that such abusive retards are only as intelligent/wise & observant as wildebeesties #1 & #3 here? http://i.minus.com/ithiNL6EF0Y8R.gif

Why continue to circularly bicker with them? Don’t try saying that doing so makes HA a more enjoyable place to be!

Anti-Control on May 19, 2013 at 3:23 AM

Alright, who left the dang door open, there’s gonna be trolls all over this place today, Sparkplug if your the one who did it, there’s gonna be trouble……………..;-)

angrymike on May 19, 2013 at 5:10 AM

Oh, and I haven’t seen Jackie in a while, if anyone sees this tell her I said howdy, and really miss her wit…………..;-)

angrymike on May 19, 2013 at 5:16 AM

Anti-Control on May 19, 2013 at 3:23 AM

Probably good advice, but sometimes difficult to follow. It’s their cowardice which galls, safely anonymous, they will spew things that they never would if face to face at a park, in a bar, at a family function.. because hate filled stupid has consequences in real life.. but not on the web..

I’ll bite though, and personally pledge to try harder, much harder to just ignore them..

Tough though.. I’m a counter puncher by nature.

mark81150 on May 19, 2013 at 5:31 AM

“The most corrosive of the controversies is what happened at the IRS, which singled out tea party and other conservative groups for special scrutiny in their applications for tax-exempt status. That Obama knew nothing about it does little to quell concerns that one of the most-feared units in government was operating out of control.” ~ Dan Balz at the Washington Post

My response at the Post:

Well written synopsis on Mr. Balz’ part with one glaring exception/assumption on his part—”That Obama knew nothing about it”. Unless Mr. Balz is a mind-reader, this is a bold statement not supported by any facts, and based on the obvious denials from the administration. Hard to believe (in totality) that even when Democratic leaders were calling for IRS investigations into conservative organizations, that Obama “knew nothing”. In fact, with all the controversial (and possible illegal actions in several departments), it’s utterly amazing how many of them, (department heads) claim to know absolutely NOTHING about what’s going on right under their noses. If President Obama has chosen to “look the other way” to insure plausible deniability, Mr. Balz could have phrased the statement “That Mr. Obama claims to know nothing”, which would be factually correct. Big difference than what Mr. Balz has assumed to be a fact.

Rovin on May 19, 2013 at 6:13 AM

Probably good advice, but sometimes difficult to follow.

I am of the position that this kind of exercise is truly only as difficult as a person thinks it is. I will also throw out, “practice makes perfect.”

It’s their cowardice which galls, safely anonymous, they will spew things that they never would if face to face at a park, in a bar, at a family function.. because hate filled stupid has consequences in real life.. but not on the web..

I’ll bite though, and personally pledge to try harder, much harder to just ignore them..

Tough though.. I’m a counter puncher by nature.

mark81150 on May 19, 2013 at 5:31 AM

I understand what you are saying, and I hope you know that I am not personally attacking people like you – I’m just constructively reminding you how utterly stupid and childish the leftards on the other ends of these conversations are, and how non-seriously their baiting insults should be taken. :)

Oblivious morons like HAL are the equivalent of attention-starved drug addicts who are abusively in denial, and indulging their asininity wastes the time of all involved parties. Circular, pointless bickering with them only ends up getting ourselves dirty when there is no good reason for us to allow that to happen.

Since you are a counterpuncher who might appreciate this, to grasp my idea of what to and what not to do counterpunching-wise with ever-sucking blackholish trolls like HAL, look at fellow counterpuncher Floyd Mayweather Jr.’s fight vs Cotto and compare it stylistically to his more recent fight with Guerrero. Against Cotto, he failed to properly utilize his superior defensive talent/advantage, and ended up getting tagged far too much. As a smart boxer, he realized this mistake before he fought Guerrero, and masterfully corrected the error.

Anti-Control on May 19, 2013 at 6:29 AM

Yes I do. No biz owner with a brain starts a company simply to create jobs. They start companies to benefit themselves and their shareholders. Hiring is a necessary evil.

HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 9:41 PM

And who do you think those shareholders are? If you say “rich evil conservatives”, you be wrong. A very large number of PENSIONS are invested in the oil industry because its a good stable, long-term investment… perfect for pension funds. But what I want to know is why you hate retired teachers, firefighters and police? Why should government bureaucrats get that “fair share” tax money instead of retirees who worked hard all their lives serving others? Why do you worship government, and hate hard workers?

Also, oil companies pay far higher percentages in taxes than other companies. If you want fair, then what you want is a flat tax system where everyone pays the same percent. But I suspect what you really want is more tax UN-fairness.

dominigan on May 19, 2013 at 7:19 AM

It’s the machine behind Obama that’s well oiled and clever not Obama. He is not an elite politician but a bumbling puppet. He is not clever without his prompter so who do you credit now, him or the people that program the prompter? Articles like this are an insult to the intelligence of most people praising the narcissist who credits himself with intelligence and is deaf to anyone not in agreement with him.

mixplix on May 19, 2013 at 8:23 AM

Drew Ryun applied for permanent non-profit status for a group called “Media Trackers” in July 2011. Fifteen months later, he’d heard nothing. So he applied again under the eco-friendly name of “Greenhouse Solutions,” and was approved in three weeks.

Ryun was on Fox this morning – said he got hits from the IP address for EOP dot gov….the Executive Office of the President.

Buy Danish on May 19, 2013 at 8:28 AM

Okay, which of y’all took page 5?

Put it back!

cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 8:39 AM

Good Sunday Mornin, u’all! let’s take a look at Obama’s History, shall we? “The Great Disconnect: The Whole, Ugly Truth About Barack Hussein Obama” My take.

kingsjester on May 19, 2013 at 8:42 AM

Anti-Control on May 19, 2013 at 6:29 AM

I hate Star Trek, so came back here.

Wise Mr. AC. Nice boxing illustration.

HAL is one troll that I find easy to ignore.
Why? His motives are obvious..just hate filled
bombs he throws and watches the reactions in delight. I want to derive him of any pleasure he
may receive.
Pulling a rogerb- using his own words against him and a mock or a few is enough. Then I flush him.
He craves a fight and attention, simply for his own satisfaction and he usually gets it.
Just picture him behind his keyboard laughing…
that should help.

He has been on a frenzy for weeks…
Hmmm..timing..right when we had scandal after scandal breaking. Desperate.
He usually gets the thread derailed and he moves away from the topic. He also-if anyone has missed it..likes to post to posters here about their mom’s giving blow jobs and your trailer trash daughters doing the same.
Dudes a perv. He knows that will rile you up more then anything. But..many bite.
KA2 just mocks him-then casts him aside.

His sole purpose of being here is to inflame. Nothing more.

My 2 cents.
The best way to manage him? contain him.
Dude’s a lying, perv, pyscho- Time to quit feeding him. Wanna pi$$ him off? Ignore him.
He ain’t worth a shite or the time used on back and forths with him. Time is better spent with HAL blocker. Trust me. :)

Carry on.

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 10:16 AM

I hate Star Trek, so came back here.

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 10:16 AM

?

The original, animated series, The next generation, Deep space Nine, Voyager, Enterprise, The movies, 7/9, all of them?

C’mon, really?

cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 10:28 AM

– I’m out. I may be awhile. I may be ready to finish up my nuclear poof. I’ve never nuclear poofed without actually nuclear poofing, but something happened, and I lost my balance. I’ve got it back. I dunno how. I dunno how I lost it. I just work here, man. Anyway, this may be awhile.

– Note that I will be missing witchy-woman. She’s trying to change the world, you know. Mostly, she comes here to work. Anyone notices this, please try to help — I won’t be around to cross link. Probably. For awhile.

Staying up for Ken..maybe for axe and Will too.
Dang..everyone bailed out early.

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 1:58 AM
Well maybe Axe enjoyed you around. :)

Night guys. :)

(Night Sophie.)

Axe on May 19, 2013 at 2:10 AM

Wth does that mean? No nuclear poofing allowed.
You have been growing on me..you cant go nuclear now!

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 10:35 AM

cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 10:28 AM

Nope..can’t stand any of the sci-fi
stuff.

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 10:46 AM

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Then you miss out on some sweet eye candy.

cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 10:55 AM

Then you miss out on some sweet eye candy.

cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 10:55 AM

Nope..trust me..I got plenty. ;)

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 11:03 AM

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 11:03 AM

?

What in the heck do you think I was talkin’ about?
.
.
.
.

Dirty mind! Look at this link closely.

cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 11:13 AM

Chicks? lol
Sorry..Sparky has ruined me.

Eh, space stuff is okay..
while I appreciate your links..
it just doesn’t get me excited.
Don’t know why.
I watched the shuttle go up a million times here..
right in my back yard..
Rocket went up the other day. It’s cool
but I just never got into it.
I did love my telescope and looking at the stars,planets,system…fascinating.
You know I am a odd ball ding bat. :)

I love Ships, subs, anything ocean related..my passion I guess.

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 11:18 AM

Another world..inside the world.

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 11:19 AM

I love Ships, subs, anything ocean related..my passion I guess.

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 11:18 AM

Well then, you ain’t totally lost. Change anything to machine, and I’m with you.

Caspian Sea Monster

cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 11:25 AM

And you didn’t look closely at that second link.

Though his link is broken, I keep my new website pretty well hidden.

cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 11:26 AM

Caspian Sea Monster

cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Now you’re talking!
That is bad ass!

ahhh..morning quality time with Coz.
I just got up..bad b9.

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 11:28 AM

cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 11:26 AM

hmmm..I have a clue now.
I think I get what your saying..coupled with past convo’s we had.
Give me a break..I just woke up and I am blond. :)
Until I ingest more caffeine..”my look closely” function is a bit off, my little kozmonot.

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 11:33 AM

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Eh, daughter is giving a speech at church, so I’m makin’ my biannual visit to Sunday service.

Enjoy me while you have me.

Since it appears we are the only two here.

Just got it up a while back and only the first page is live.

cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Out of production….

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 11:35 AM

Enjoy me while you have me.

Since it appears we are the only two here.

Just got it up a while back and only the first page is live.

cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 11:33 AM

I actually do..I know..says something about me. ;)
Really? That is odd. All the juicy stuff disappeared then..

my biannual visit to Sunday service.

That would be me.

“Since it appears we are the only two here.”
Cool, thanks for sharing. I understand the oz more now. I see your passion and why.
I recall our morning talk a couple months back..you were making molds.

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 11:42 AM

*C*

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 11:43 AM

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Its a very progressive church. One that this deist can tolerate, as long as they don’t expect me to sing.

Now if there was a way to kill that link.

Its a good thing the third page isn’t live. More than a dozen Trek kits there. And more on the way.

The Trek stuff alone pays for my evening hobby.

cozmo on May 19, 2013 at 1:25 PM

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