Biden: We’re counting on the “legitimate news media” to cover our gun-control messaging

posted at 7:21 pm on February 11, 2013 by Allahpundit

Good lord, man. What more can they do for this policy push that they aren’t doing already? You’ve got major network news bureaus using the term “assault magazines,” for cripes sake. When you’ve had a horse pulling a cart for two months, it’s humane to pat him and tell him “good job” before hitching him up again.

Piers Morgan, I’m sure, would appreciate some water and a sugar cube or two.

Vice President Joe Biden said Monday that those who claimed the Obama Administration was trying to take away guns from law-abiding citizens were spinning “a bunch of malarkey.”

“I know that’s a word you’ve never heard before, although it’s now in the dictionary,” Biden said at a roundtable discussion with law enforcement officers in Philadelphia. “That’s just simply not true. And to be very blunt with you, we’re counting on all of you, the legitimate news media, to cover these discussions because the truth is that times have changed.”…

Biden also pledged to bring the fight to rural areas, where instances of gun violence were less frequent than in cities and the tradition of gun ownership is strong. The vice president said he had read reports in a local newspaper that the administration had not done enough to reach out to rural voters.

“I’m coming, I’m coming,” Biden said.

Times really haven’t changed much, but the White House needs to maintain that fiction to have any hope of passing even the most modest new gun regulations through Congress. While Biden heads to rural America to try to reverse 200+ years of gun culture, Obama will return home to Chicago to make the case that banning “assault weapons” and instituting background checks will do the littlest bit to reduce the lethality of gang violence. And of course he’ll have victims of gun violence as his guests at tomorrow night’s SOTU, just to remind you that if you happen to disagree with Democratic policy preferences for whatever reason, you’re basically in favor of innocent people getting shot.

Exit question: If Biden really wants help from the “legitimate news media” on this, shouldn’t he be asking them to tone it down a bit? One of the White House’s key messaging problems, I think, is that no matter how many times O or Biden or Feinstein swears up and down that they only want to ban a few specific guns, not all guns, there’s some idiot liberal pundit on cable or the op-ed page who quite palpably wants to ban all guns, or at least all semiautomatics. Morgan is the paradigm example. It reminds me of Obama insisting that he’s a federalist on gay marriage even though everyone but everyone knows he’d welcome a Supreme Court decision finding a constitutional right to gay marriage in the Fourteenth Amendment. If a liberal Court reversed the Heller decision and ruled that there’s no individual right to bear arms, such that the feds could go ahead and ban private gun ownership outright, it’d be a banner day for left-wing America. No one believes otherwise, thanks in part to the media’s transparent bias on this issue. If they were a bit more circumspect in their cheerleading, maybe gun owners wouldn’t be quite so sensitive to new regulations.


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Isn’t it illegal for a campaign to coordinate with a Super PAC like this?

besser tot als rot on February 11, 2013 at 7:24 PM

“Let’s win one for the Gipper Fibber.”

portlandon on February 11, 2013 at 7:24 PM

I am stunned that this man managed to become VP.

A shame on this once great nation.

blatantblue on February 11, 2013 at 7:26 PM

In order to draw more attention to their weapons ban the White House will ask Lena Dunham to place an “assault Magazine” between her breasts on the next episode of “Girls”.

portlandon on February 11, 2013 at 7:27 PM

In order to draw more attention to their weapons ban the White House will ask Lena Dunham to place an “assault Magazine” between her breasts on the next episode of “Girls”.

portlandon on February 11, 2013 at 7:27 PM

They have to make sure to film it in DC.

besser tot als rot on February 11, 2013 at 7:30 PM

“because the truth is that times have changed.”…

I didn’t realize the Constitution had an expiration date.

TarheelBen on February 11, 2013 at 7:30 PM

It’s that “legitimate news media” thing that should bother people – what are they going to do about illegitimate news media?

Galt2009 on February 11, 2013 at 7:34 PM

MOLON LABE you SOB.

jawkneemusic on February 11, 2013 at 7:36 PM

You can spot his “legitimate” news media by the knee pads they are wearing.

dddave on February 11, 2013 at 7:39 PM

I am stunned that this man managed to become VP.

A shame on this once great nation.

blatantblue on February 11, 2013 at 7:26 PM

It hasn’t been a great nation for a while. We on here have had way too much false hope.

IR-MN on February 11, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Fortunately, the truth is immutable, but unfortunately, the truth is immutable.

^Totally makes sense.

The future doesn’t belong to you, Joe. It can’t be yours because your imagined today and your imagined tomorrow are impossible fictions. Tomorrow will be completely real, just like today. The only question is how much suffering your effects will bring after you are finished with all your irrational causing.

^Also makes sense.

Axe on February 11, 2013 at 7:41 PM

^Assault comment.

Axe on February 11, 2013 at 7:42 PM

*assault finger*

Axe on February 11, 2013 at 7:43 PM

Piers Morgan, I’m sure, would appreciate some water and a sugar cube or two.

LOL

Snark like that is why I love HotAir. Someone with a twitter account needs to ask Piers about that ASAP

F15Mech on February 11, 2013 at 7:43 PM

I am stunned that this man managed to become VP.

A shame on this once great nation.

blatantblue on February 11, 2013 at 7:26 PM

Well, if O’Blitzkreig gets found as inelligable to be in office, Mr. Bidun will be Prez.

johnnyU on February 11, 2013 at 7:44 PM

Vice President Joe Biden said Monday that those who claimed the Obama Administration was trying to take away guns from law-abiding citizens were spinning “a bunch of malarkey.”

“I know that’s a word you’ve never heard before, although it’s now in the dictionary,” Biden said at a roundtable discussion with law enforcement officers in Philadelphia. “That’s just simply not true. And to be very blunt with you, we’re counting on all of you, the legitimate news media, to cover these discussions because the truth is that times have changed.”…

Yeah, nobody’s ever heard the word, “malarkey” before….

Just call Biden what he is: a pretentious liar and a pompous blowhard. If he wants more respect, he needs to be more respectful to others.

tom on February 11, 2013 at 7:44 PM

I am stunned that this man managed to become VP.

A shame on this once great nation.

blatantblue on February 11, 2013 at 7:26 PM

Imagine how the rest of us felt about his boss getting elected. Twice!

HiJack on February 11, 2013 at 7:45 PM

‘Get out there and spread our propaganda!’

supernova on February 11, 2013 at 7:46 PM

Dude I’m sorry but that statement is creepy.

gophergirl on February 11, 2013 at 7:48 PM

Big “EFFEN” you Biden…

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on February 11, 2013 at 7:48 PM

People have actually died to protect our freedoms and liberty…

… Now this.

Seven Percent Solution on February 11, 2013 at 7:49 PM

I’m counting on my ARs, high capacity magazines and lots of ammo to take care of the problem when gun grabbing, domestic enemies of the constitution decide to go to far…

Doomsday on February 11, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Dude I’m sorry but that statement is creepy.

gophergirl on February 11, 2013 at 7:48 PM

Wait, who? What? The headline statement?

Axe on February 11, 2013 at 7:50 PM

I’m not a Jones fan but this is an interesting interview about the 3D printable ammo magazines available for download on the Internet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKAaO26FAvA&feature=player_embedded#!

FloatingRock on February 11, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Isn’t it illegal for a campaign to coordinate with a Super PAC like this?

besser tot als rot on February 11, 2013 at 7:24 PM

The lines got blurred a long time ago when the MSM became a fully-functioning arm of the campaign. It’s a three-sided execution on the U.S., it’s definitely illegal, but no one will care because the masses don’t want to lose their Obamaphones, subsidized college tuition and free birth control for the Fluke-Americans.

Outside of Hannity, no one will care.

Myron Falwell on February 11, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Of course, this will only help the credibility of our “Free and Independent” press…

Seven Percent Solution on February 11, 2013 at 7:52 PM

I am stunned that this man managed to become VP.

A shame on this once great nation.

blatantblue on February 11, 2013 at 7:26 PM

Proof that evil always triumphs, because good is dumb.

Myron Falwell on February 11, 2013 at 7:53 PM

“Assault magazine”?

HAHAHAHAHA

These people amaze me.

Bishop on February 11, 2013 at 7:53 PM

From my cold dead hands you SOB

WisCon on February 11, 2013 at 7:55 PM

The “news media” can shove it. Anyone with half a brain has tuned them out.

http://www.nysrpa.org/files/SAFENoticeOfClaim.pdf

New York Sheriff’s Assoc slams new law:

http://www.nssf.org/share/PDF/NYSSA%…Act_021113.pdf

Saratoga County Sheriff and Police Assoc slam new law:

http://www.nssf.org/share/PDF/SAFEActLetter_021113.pdf

GarandFan on February 11, 2013 at 7:57 PM

Biden also pledged to bring the fight to rural areas

Wouldn’t advise it, screwball.

Cleombrotus on February 11, 2013 at 7:58 PM

My my, the times have changed?

Mr. Biden, that’s malarkey!

unclesmrgol on February 11, 2013 at 8:00 PM

The times really have changed. There are more concealed carry licenses, more states with Constitutional Carry, more minorities owning guns, more women owning guns, more guns sold and LESS gun accidents and crime, and FINALLY a firm decision from the Supreme Court that the 2nd Amendment is an individual right that applies to state as well as federal laws. Biden and the MSM are the ones swimming against the tide.

Socratease on February 11, 2013 at 8:01 PM

All I know is that liberals care more about the deaths of 20 little white children in an affluent CT suburb than they do an entire generation of little black children gunned down by other blacks in the ongoing gang wars that can be found in most any city.

I used to live in a fairly good-sized W. Michigan city. One of my complaints, and I knew the paper’s editor so he heard it first hand, was the fact that they were essentially lying about the cause of the shootings in a certain part of the city. To read the reports, these were all isolated incidents of an unknown motive when in reality it didn’t take much intellect to realize that blacks and Hispanic gangs were at war with one another and among themselves. Essentially the police chief didn’t want to have and admit that the city had gangs at all. A hard position to hold when you admit to gang shootings.

Happy Nomad on February 11, 2013 at 8:01 PM

I am stunned that this man managed to become VP.

A shame on this once great nation.

blatantblue on February 11, 2013 at 7:26 PM

I wonder which SS agent ties his shoes in the morning?

Oh, ….loafers. What else.

98ZJUSMC on February 11, 2013 at 8:02 PM

One heartbeat away. God help the United States!

RoadRunner on February 11, 2013 at 8:04 PM

Wouldn’t advise it, screwball.

Cleombrotus on February 11, 2013 at 7:58 PM

Oh! The bastard is constantly surrounded by people with firearms. It is the only way that he could reasonably feel safe in rural areas with a message that the Second Amendment needs to be repealed.

Biden ought to put his money where his mouth is and get rid of armed security around him and his creepy political whore of a spouse. Same for the rat-eared wonder and his family.

Happy Nomad on February 11, 2013 at 8:05 PM

“That’s just simply not true. And to be very blunt with you, we’re counting on all of you, the legitimate news media, to cover these discussions because the truth is that times have changed.”…

Wonder how long it has been since Joe has known the truth?

“The vice president said he had read reports in a local newspaper that the administration had not done enough to reach out to rural voters.

“I’m coming, I’m coming,” Biden said.”

Please don’t. No one wants to sit on your lap.

Charm on February 11, 2013 at 8:06 PM

“That’s just simply not true. And to be very blunt with you, we’re counting on all of you, the legitimate news media, to cover these discussions because the truth is that times have changed.”…

Times HAVE changed, Bidumb, but NOT in the way that you believe…

Back when you said this:

“Banning guns is an idea whose time has come.”

– Senator Joseph Biden, Associated Press, 18 November 1993

…gun control was much more popular than it is now and, yet, your “Malarkey” got shellacked in 1994 when the Republicans won control of the House (and Congress) for the first time in 50 years.

According to Pew Research:

[Following the movie theater massacre in Aurora, Colorado, where 12 people were killed and dozens injured, our study] found that 47% said it was more important to control gun ownership, while 46% said it was more important to protect the rights of Americans to own guns. Opinions were largely unchanged from April 2012, when 45% prioritized gun control and 49% gun rights.”

Further, Pew Research’s findings show that the debate has moved away from a focus on gun control and is certainly less supportive of idea of banning weapons and materially burdening the ability of Americans to legally own and possess firearms:

“Opinion about gun control has been split since April 2009, but this marked a substantial change in attitudes from previous years. From 1993 through 2008, majorities of Americans consistently prioritized gun control over gun rights, with a particular uptick in support for gun control following the Columbine High School shooting in 1999 (a few months after that incident 62% said controlling gun ownership was more important than protecting gun rights). More recently, just a few days after the 2007 shooting at Virginia Tech, 60% said gun control was more important.”

Resist We Much on February 11, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Wait, who? What? The headline statement?

Axe on February 11, 2013 at 7:50 PM

Yep. Next thing we know there will be an EO for a state run paper.

gophergirl on February 11, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Legitimate media? I guess the tonedeafness of such a statement is utterly lost on the left.

CurtZHP on February 11, 2013 at 8:11 PM

Wouldn’t advise it, screwball.

Cleombrotus on February 11, 2013 at 7:58 PM

Heard that. That drooling, lying retard wants to show up around my neck of the woods, I’ll have some choice words for him. I have never hated anything in my life, as much as I hate these despicable crestins. At least the Soviets were halfway honest as to their intentions.

98ZJUSMC on February 11, 2013 at 8:13 PM

Biden also pledged to bring the fight to rural areas

Wouldn’t advise it, screwball.

Cleombrotus on February 11, 2013 at 7:58 PM

Ditto.

exliberal on February 11, 2013 at 8:14 PM

I didn’t realize the Constitution had an expiration date.

TarheelBen on February 11, 2013 at 7:30 PM

It does. It’s called “upon amendment.” But statists know that their ideas aren’t popular enough to meet that standard so they try to change the rules (but only for them – we still have to abide by the old rules).

besser tot als rot on February 11, 2013 at 8:16 PM

Does Biden mean the same “legitimate news media” that somehow didn’t notice there were between 500,000 and 650,000 people of very diverse religious cultures –a large percentage of them young and female–at the March For Life rally in Washington this past January ?

He sure is one sinister clown.

ansonia on February 11, 2013 at 8:18 PM

When the shooting begins, the traitors in the MSM need to be the first targets.
We’ll never get them to love us. Better then that they FEAR us.

SicSemperTyrannus on February 11, 2013 at 8:23 PM

I’m sort of rural. We have dogs out here, big dogs.

Bishop on February 11, 2013 at 8:31 PM

I know a nice rural area pretty close called Death Valley.

Come out in July, joe. Let’s chat.

wolly4321 on February 11, 2013 at 8:32 PM

He must have meant the prostate media.

VorDaj on February 11, 2013 at 8:34 PM

Soviet

tom daschle concerned on February 11, 2013 at 8:34 PM

Vice President Joe Biden said Monday that those who claimed the Obama Administration was trying to take away guns from law-abiding citizens were spinning “a bunch of malarkey.”

Well, technically he is correct. See, when they get the laws changed the way they want you will no longer BE a law abiding citizen if you have guns.

MikeA on February 11, 2013 at 8:43 PM

Safe to say the media that covered Benghazi won’t qualify…

hillsoftx on February 11, 2013 at 8:45 PM

And Liz Marlantes had the tits to say, on FNS, “Republicans have a messaging problem.” With the liberal White House and the liberal Congressional Democrats and the liberal biased MSM, the only messaging problem that the Rs have is getting their message out without the filter bias on “full distort.”

ExpressoBold on February 11, 2013 at 8:47 PM

You do up those big dogs hawaiian pit style, Bish. Make them not so tough to chew. It’s the American way.

wolly4321 on February 11, 2013 at 8:48 PM

And Liz Marlantes had the t!ts to say, on FNS, “Republicans have a messaging problem.” With the liberal White House and the liberal Congressional Democrats and the liberal biased MSM, the only messaging problem that the Rs have is getting their message out without the filter bias on “full distort.”

ExpressoBold on February 11, 2013 at 9:05 PM

When the shooting begins, the traitors in the MSM need to be the first targets.
We’ll never get them to love us. Better then that they FEAR us.

SicSemperTyrannus on February 11, 2013 at 8:23 PM

I pray that day never comes however if you look at firearms sales over the last couple of months, this is a nation getting ready for a war. So I fear it has already arrived and just waiting for a spark.

F15Mech on February 11, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Thank goodness we have Pravda to tell us what the Government wants us to hear without “speaking truth to power” or “holding people’s feet to the fire”.

Can you imagine the disaster if the media weren’t mouthpieces for the State?

gekkobear on February 11, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Vice President Joe Biden said Monday that those who claimed the Obama Administration was trying to take away guns from law-abiding citizens were spinning “a bunch of malarkey.”

Malarkey?

“If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States, for an outright ban, picking up [every gun]… Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in.” Feinstein

Iowa lawmakers should ban semi-automatic guns and “start taking them” from owners. State Rep. Dan Muhlbauer.

“Confiscation could be an option.” Andrew Cuomo

Colbyjack on February 11, 2013 at 9:28 PM

I’m not a Jones fan but this is an interesting interview about the 3D printable ammo magazines available for download on the Internet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKAaO26FAvA&feature=player_embedded#!

FloatingRock on February 11, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Good link. Cody Wilson is a very smart dude.

In addition, we need to be thinking ahead about the fact that this technology is going into the hands of all our enemies and criminals as well, so it’s all the more reason to up our game (i.e., better arm ourselves). Like it or not, we’ve entered the internet-age arms race. Adapt or be doomed.

Philosophically, I think we also need to be considering, in light of this, how we are going to maintain our national unity, and our national heritage while all this other stuff is happening.

Big stuff happening.

WhatSlushfund on February 11, 2013 at 9:36 PM

That’s a bunch of malarkie said the no brainer.

bluesdoc70 on February 11, 2013 at 9:36 PM

If a liberal Court reversed the Heller decision and ruled that there’s no individual right to bear arms, such that the feds could go ahead and ban private gun ownership outright, it’d be a banner day for left-wing America.

Instant Civil War.

Bulletchaser on February 11, 2013 at 9:37 PM

The tree of liberty needs watering.

The sooner the better.

trs on February 11, 2013 at 9:58 PM

…it’d be a banner the last day for left-wing America.

Fixed. Lest you believe I’m ‘crazy’ or ‘extreme’, I assure you conviction needs no hyperbole.

John Kettlewell on February 11, 2013 at 10:13 PM

I pray that day never comes however if you look at firearms sales over the last couple of months, this is a nation getting ready for a war. So I fear it has already arrived and just waiting for a spark.

F15Mech on February 11, 2013 at 9:20 PM

All that is required is just one catalyst for a new revolution…

Doomsday on February 11, 2013 at 10:31 PM

I am stunned that this man managed to become VP.

A shame on this once great nation.

blatantblue on February 11, 2013 at 7:26 PM

How does Def Sec Hagel sound? And Sec Kerry. YeeHaw!

Fenris on February 11, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Goebbels orgasmed, again. His ultimate dreams are all fulfilled by this administration.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2013 at 11:42 PM

The “news media” can shove it. Anyone with half a brain has tuned them out.

GarandFan on February 11, 2013 at 7:57 PM

The only problem is that 50.8% of US voters have less than half a brain.

SubmarineDoc on February 12, 2013 at 3:17 AM

. . . it’d be a banner day for left-wing America. . . .

Is that pun intended?

Why “yes”, because they’ve done such a bang up job of writing comprehensive health care legislation, that we also want them to write us some comprehensive gun control legislation.

It’s easy. We just have to read it to find out what’s in it.

But not until after it’s voted on.

dissent555 on February 12, 2013 at 8:59 AM

John Kettlewell on February 11, 2013 at 10:13 PM

Without a doubt, that’s what the Socialists want. I’m not confident that our side would prevail if it even came to that, however.

Myron Falwell on February 12, 2013 at 10:03 AM

Ya’ know it would be funny if these guys weren’t in charge. Scares the hell out of you doesn’t it?

georgeofthedesert on February 12, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Nothing we’re going to do is going to fundamentally alter or eliminate the possibility of another mass shooting or guarantee that we will bring gun deaths down to a thousand a year from what we’re at now,” Biden said, according to a Politico report.

J_Crater on February 12, 2013 at 11:15 PM