Quotes of the day
posted at 8:01 pm on February 10, 2013 by Allahpundit
“This is a bad idea whose time has come,” former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, a powerhouse fundraiser for Crossroads, said of the new organization, according to an email Monday to donors from Steven Law, head of the Crossroads groups and Conservative Victory Project.
Law outlined plans to essentially perform oppo research [on conservatives] and grade potential candidates on a variety of factors that might affect their ability to win a general election contest, including using fundraising reports “like earnings calls” to evaluate “the competitiveness of candidates.” And he signaled that Crossroads would mobilize other big-money groups in its network to help avert damaging primaries…
But Rove’s involvement in primaries could inflame opponents, predicted Matt Hoskins, executive director of the Senate Conservatives Fund PAC. “Their activities are going to actually have the opposite effect of what they’re trying to do,” he said. “It could actually make it easier for conservative candidates to win primaries.”…
“We discourage our people from supporting third-party candidates by saying ‘that’s a big mistake. We shouldn’t do that’,” [Tea Party Express founder Sal Russo] said. “But if the position [Rove’s allies] take is rule or ruin — well, two can play that game. And if we get pushed, we’re not going to be able to keep the lid on that.”
One high-profile Republican strategist, who refused to be named in order to avoid inflaming the very segments of the party he wants to silence, said there is a deliberate effort by party leaders to “marginalize the cranks, haters and bigots — there’s a lot of underbrush that has to be cleaned out.”…
So a political colonoscopy is going on before our eyes. Republican after Republican told us the party dodged a bullet with Mitt Romney’s loss: If he had squeaked in, this vital reboot would have been delayed four or eight years…
But a senior Republican operative said the party has two huge, unresolved impediments to the top leaders’ grand plans: “suicide conservatives, who would rather lose elections than win seats with moderates,” and the “many groups on the hard right that depend on direct mail fundraising that requires a high degree of audacity, and borderline shrillness.”
Stone said it’s wrong to alienate the conservative base. “These are the storm troops of the Republican Party,” he said, adding that tea party folks ring doorbells and hang signs for candidates. “Don’t offend them”
Stone said Republicans can find electable candidates who also appeal to tea party principles. But a group that divides a minority party, he added, “that’s like pre-meditated suicide. I’m not for a suicide PAC.”
Matt Kibbe of FreedomWorks openly scoffed at the notion that Rove’s network would be able to pick winners and losers. “The guys who fund groups like Rove’s want to re-establish that they’re in charge, but they just don’t understand the inevitable decentralization and democratization of politics,” said Kibbe. Club for Growth president Chris Chocola seconded that motion: “When you think about a Republican primary, and you think about a principled conservative versus a moderate Republican – well, our model wins more often.”
Rove’s apparent apathy toward the Tea Party has obviously generated antipathy for his views. As Mark Levin has pointed out, Rove recently bragged about spending some $30 million on Senate Tea Party candidates and $25 million on Tea Party House candidates — but American Crossroads reportedly spent some $400 million in the 2012 election cycle, meaning that only about $1 out of every $8 was spent on Tea Party candidates.
Rove will undoubtedly continue to wield influence. But whether that influence triggers a Republican civil war or not is entirely up to Rove, and depends largely on his willingness to work with Tea Party groups rather than in opposition to them.
Paul pushed back Sunday on the notion that Rubio, or any other Republican, has been anointed as the “face” of the Republican Party, making the case that Republican lawmakers sometimes have different priorities.
“I don’t think anybody gets to choose who the face is, or say you or someone else is the face. I think we do the best to promote what we believe in,” Paul said, pointing to his own vocal opposition to sending U.S. foreign aid money to certain countries like Egypt and Pakistan.
“There are things that distinguish a lot of different Republicans. It doesn’t make them bad or me right or them wrong. What it means there is a tea party wing that’s interested in not sending money to people who are not acting like our allies,” Paul said.
Rove believes that candidates like O’Donnell gave away likely seats in Nevada, Colorado, Indiana, and Missouri during the last two election cycles. The GOP might control the Senate today if sharper candidates had prevailed.
This line of thinking outrages movement conservatives and Tea Party activists. They chalk up the defeats to the liberal media, which lampooned true conservatives by fixating on their minor missteps. By pledging to support more electable candidates, Rove is buying in to the frame that the media puts around true conservatives.
This theory may be reasonable or it may be poppycock. Either way, Rove’s detractors should thank him for bringing the debate into the open. Rove’s new effort is good for the Tea Party in the way that doubters are good for religions. No faith worthy of its Sunday parishioners crumbles under a challenge. Leaving aside whether Rove is really challenging the core of Tea Party beliefs, his efforts force those who hold a different view into being clearer about what they believe. Only if they go through that process can they make their case to Republicans who aren’t already true believers. Plus, if they can’t beat Karl Rove at the internal game, they’re not going to be able to beat the Democrats.
Back then, and even now, 41 years later, Rove was not a radical or what they called a “movement” conservative. He was a geeky outsider who longed for the power and money and connections that he thought would be available to him in politics in general and as a Nixon acolyte in particular. Nixon hated the country clubbers, but for social not philosophical reasons, and he drew to his side outsider operatives such as Rove with a lust for power…
Tea Partiers rightly ask what Rove and his rich-as-Croesus American Crossroads super PAC have gotten for conservatives or even the GOP. Rove is a master tactician, but not necessarily a great judge of political horseflesh. His taste tends to run to rich guys who can pay him a lot — which worked out well only in the case of W., and then only by skin of Justice Antonin Scalia’s (“get over it”) teeth…
Deep-dyed conservatives have a right to ask the Roves of the world what the establishment GOPers have done to erase the debt, limit the reach of the federal government or enhance a libertarian view of the world. The answer, to the Rand Pauls of the world, is simple: nothing…
He’s done.
Hear this: extremist ideology is one crucial element of being a bad candidate. There is no good way to phrase the idea that rape victims should be compelled to bear their rapist’s child. Ditto for the idea that those people who can’t find work in the throes of the worst jobs crisis since the 1930s are moochers and takers.
But there is an idea that can be phrased, and it is this:
It’s long past time to create within the Republican party an organized force to fund and support moderate-minded candidates. The Tea Party types do not hesitate to champion their views. Why would it be wrong for moderate Republicans to do likewise? Karl Rove won’t lead that effort. Somebody should. Who?
Why are people giving money to Karl Rove when he just wasted $400M without any victories? Use your head.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 7, 2013
Karl Rove is a total loser. Money given to him might as well be thrown down the drain.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 7, 2013
Karl Rove’s strategy and commercials were the worst I have ever seen.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 7, 2013
DAVID BROOKS: I think it’s the beginning of a longer-lasting thing.
There’s been a lot of calls for Republicans to change. And we have seen that from everybody to Paul Ryan to Marco Rubio. Now we’re beginning to see the donor class really begin to change. There is some question, are they trying to change just the candidates, so they don’t get Todd Akin, or they trying to actually change some of the substance?
And, so far , it seems to be just the candidates. One of the interesting things — and I can’t say I know the answer to this — is, how much will the Tea Party fight back? There has been some effort that they are saying, oh, the establishment is taking over.
But my own sense of things so far is that there is not the will to fight among the Tea Party and that a lot of people in the Tea Party are, frankly — they’re not — they are also Republicans. And a lot of — say, Rush Limbaugh, for example, who is not Tea Party, he’s more an establishment Republican who wants the Republican Party to win.
So I have a feeling that the establishment is going to have maybe an easier time of it than some might think.
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The GOP will fall for it.
Meanwhile Rubio is acting tough with the IRS to try and provide himself some cover on this disaster.
Bishop on May 22, 2013 at 11:25 AM
Final destruction of America complete in 3, 2, 1
Full reciprocity from the rest of the world for US citizens or STFU. Full up-front funding of $7 trillion by Mexico and the UN or STFU.
oldroy on May 22, 2013 at 11:25 AM
Which is more lethal, ObamaCare or this?
This has more destructive power than ObamaCare IMHO. This is a death panel for the GOP and US.
SparkPlug on May 22, 2013 at 11:30 AM
Even if they risk the wrath of the media, the House has to slam on the brakes with this malarkey. Either that, or pass a bill so enforcement-heavy that this will die in conference. Since puppet-master Schumer will ensure the Gang of Eight bill will pass the Senate, it’s all down to the House.
If they pass the Gang of Eight bill as-is, this country is finished. And so are they, and so’s the Republican Party in general.
KingGold on May 22, 2013 at 11:33 AM
Immigration Equality executive director Rachel Tiven told BuzzFeed, “I was shocked — and I suspect he was too — that not a single member of that committee joined him in saying, ‘These are immigrant families, too. I care about these families.’”
Leahy received expected opposition from Republican Sens. Lindsey Graham and Jeff Flake to the provision, but the introduction also was opposed by four Democratic senators — Sens. Dianne Feinstein, Dick Durbin, Chuck Schumer and Al Franken…
“If we make the effort to make [the protections] part of this bill, they will walk away,” Schumer said. “They’ve said it publicly. They’ve told me privately. I believe them.”…
Human Rights Campaign president Chad Griffin took aim primarily at Republican opposition in a statement, saying that “it is deplorable that a small number of Senators have been able to stand in the way of progress for lesbian and gay couples torn apart by discriminatory laws” and calling out Senators Graham, Flake, John McCain and Marco Rubio for “threaten[ing] to derail the entire immigration bill to appease a small but vocal group of anti-gay social conservatives.”
These individuals ceased being Human some time ago….they
are gutless parasites, that have no interest, NONE , in doing
what’s in the best interests of this country.
The combined efforts of BOTH parties to systematically
destroy this country is breathtaking…we, as a Nation
are in the depths of non-stop Massive Government legislation
that will cripple our country for many years to come…we watched
as Obamacare dripped it’s way thru the Senate, then the House,
told repeatedly by our Bettors in DC that it would never pass.
Well, it did, and now this filthy, digusting, horrific
padlock to Obamacare will be foisted upon the Nation.
God help Us
ToddPA on May 22, 2013 at 11:33 AM
Here’s what I predict;
Notwithstanding the fact this distracts from more important matters with the IRS/taxes, our economy, Benghazi and the press spying- all more important to the Republican base, it won’t produce any new Republicans voters.
The canard that inside an illegal immigrant is a Republican waiting to come out or somehow this will endear Hispanics to the party is probably the stupidest, fallacious piece of nonsense I ever heard.
You don’t start off becoming a Republican by breaking the law, taking gratuitous entitlements we can’t afford and trying to corrupt our democratic process through coercion.
In fact, you don’t start out becoming an American through those actions.
This will not only cost Republicans the base, independents and never materialize Hispanic voters. In the end it will cost control of the Senate and impede any future Republican candidate for President as the fruit of their foolishness is proven right in time for the election.
Marcus Traianus on May 22, 2013 at 11:34 AM
This disaster-in-waiting needs to be stopped in the House.
Liam on May 22, 2013 at 11:34 AM
Marco Rubio will never recover . Why ?
Because he lied to his constituents .
Dems don’t care about lies , that’s how
they roll .
Please , I’m begging you , get to the phones
and keyboards . It’s not over yet .
Lucano on May 22, 2013 at 11:36 AM
It was Obama who asked them to yank it.
He plays the gay card as he needs it.
Anyone who is for amnesty, spontaneously combust, you traitors of the land.
Rubio, go to Hades.
Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 11:37 AM
Sorry, forgot the link.
Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 11:37 AM
AP, The matter can be resolved only by dodge-defying interviews with and investigations of the key Republicans.
Are they aware of the following supposed facts? When did they first learn of these things?
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/348880/clear-immigration-loopholes
http://stream.wsj.com/story/campaign-2012-continuous-coverage/SS-2-9156/SS-2-217135/
http://washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-senate-skips-details-in-rush-to-pass-immigration-bill/article/2528981
On the other hand, kabuki on kabuki is kabuki.
kunegetikos on May 22, 2013 at 11:40 AM
There’s NO point to me ring a lawful citizen anymore. Lawful citizens are saps who pay their exorbitant taxes, give up their guns and property and become fodder for the state so the politburo can use YOUR resources to grant itself more power and give your money to people acting outside the law for support.
The bill gives US companies like Apple free reign to hire cheaper foreigners and bring them here instead of hiring domestically. Illegal immigrants automatically get access to ALL benefits including free health care and get voting rights to bye themselves even more largesse from those of us who have the audacity to pay higher taxes and do without to work within the system.
Why shouldn’t I just expatriate to China or Hong Kong where foreigners have more rights then their domestic citizens?! My voting rights and property rights obviously mean jack squat here. That wont be any different in China and the China government will at least LEAVE ME ALONE.
I have 4 friends, 2 with 4 year college degrees and one who’s ex-military and all of them have been unable to find work for more than 3 years now because the jobs aren’t there!
Where’s the government for them?!
I refuse to be a sheep to this anymore.
Skywise on May 22, 2013 at 11:42 AM
If Republicans reward lawbreakers by passing the immigration bill, I am done with the party.
Oracleforhire on May 22, 2013 at 11:43 AM
Okay, so, ho many times does this need to be said(?): Rubio is not going to walk away – he is working for obama – as he has done all along, Rubio will do exactly what obama tells him to do. Rubio chose AMNESTY as his signature issue – he wants this AMNESTY bill to pass, and he is being well-paid to make sure that it does.
Pork-Chop on May 22, 2013 at 11:43 AM
“Fall for it”? Respectfully, I submit, they are ‘in on it’. The Republican aim is depress wages, while the Democratic aim is to maintain electoral hegemony.
M240H on May 22, 2013 at 11:44 AM
I guess the GOP won’t be putting their finger into this dike.
Wino on May 22, 2013 at 11:45 AM
I recommend that everyone contact Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) and voice your support of his wanting to scuttle the “comprehensive” approach and tackle this in a series if bills each addressing a discrete immigration issue.
He needs to hear from conservatives now. His House committee will be leading this effort.
Charlemagne on May 22, 2013 at 11:48 AM
I am not aware of any argument to the contrary or how one would even begin to contest this. Talk about the GOP being “duped” is cover up.
kunegetikos on May 22, 2013 at 11:51 AM
Compel Rubio and company to admit on the record that they know what is in the bill!
kunegetikos on May 22, 2013 at 11:52 AM
GOP – I *swear* to you, with the exception of perhaps Ted Cruz (so long as he maintains his credibility), I will *NEVER* vote for any of your candidates again if you support amnesty.
Do not mistake this; I will *NEVER* support you again.
Midas on May 22, 2013 at 11:55 AM
It may work with low-info voters, but not me.
After the revelations of the last few weeks, it should be obvious that if you call yourself a conservative, and you make a deal with this President, then you’re a moron.
Of course, that was obvious 5 years ago to those of us who were paying attention.
Put me in the party of “No” for the next three and a half years. I don’t care what Obama proposes, the answer is not just “No”, but “Hell, no!”
Chris of Rights on May 22, 2013 at 12:02 PM
This whole bill is Kabuki. The Senate bill will not get out of the house and the GOP senators know it.
William Eaton on May 22, 2013 at 12:03 PM
Two big radio hosts have barely discussed immigration .
Both conservative , one is the Big Kahuna .
What do these guys have in common ?
Lucano on May 22, 2013 at 12:03 PM
Okay, would the conservative base please now apply the pressure to Rubio et al to stop this travesty? Would someone point out to Rubio that there is no conceivable way he’ll stand a chance in the GOP 2016 primaries if he continues on this path?
I’ve been trying to figure out Marco Rubio’s political strategy in this whole affair. The best I can come up with is that his closest advisors have convinced him that a big immigration reform deal on Democratic Party-friendly terms is somehow, someway a boost to his presidential aspirations. The theory, I guess, is to balance out Rubio’s Tea Party roots (viewed by his advisors as a negative in a national campaign) with some moderate/bipartisan bona fides. The reason I figure his advisors are behind this is because of the slavery comparisons and other, nearly equally disparaging and denigrating remarks made since Rubio went on his immigration reform crusade. His advisors are provably politically tone-deaf, and so by extension is Rubio since he’s the one who hired them.
The problem with this plan (if such is their plan)? No conservative–not one–will support Rubio in the primaries if he goes ahead with this cynical and transparent ploy to manufacture 10 million instant and lifelong Democratic Party voters. Conservative primary voters will gravitate to Jindal or Paul. Moderates will go to Christie (or possibly Condoleeza Rice, should she announce herself in play). Rubio will get neither.
troyriser_gopftw on May 22, 2013 at 12:03 PM
Just as they used to cry that “rain follows the plough,” so we must recognize that “freedom follows the Gospel.” The USA has forgotten God, and is forgetting freedom and morality. It’s inevitable.
We need to keep fighting the good fight, but keep in mind that wherew the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. All respect to Allapundit and others who don’t believe that, but the Founders recognized it.
Interestingly, I was chatting recently with Jerry Williamson, the president of Go to the Nations, and he was telling me how God is doing a mighty work in Russia. Even in the major cities, the churches are jammed to capacity. Well, just last night the Russian Duma passed a law criminalizing people who attack Christianity to offend the faithful with some serious repercussions if they do. I’m not saying that is a wise step. It’s a bit like when all the revivalists of the 1890s brought us the Prohibition movement. Mistakes are made in the heat of renewed religious fervor. I’m just saying when God shows up, the slow accretions of liberal tyranny are swept away in a moment. It seems as though Russia might be finally waking up.
It will happen in the USA again too, but not before people are desperate enough to fall on their faces before God. Unfortunately, getting there isn’t usually fun.
JoseQuinones on May 22, 2013 at 12:04 PM
I agree completely. I may even make a symbolic donation and vote for the dem in the general election as a big F U to the Republican party. The elites obviously think there are enough low info Republicans that will just show up and vote for them.
Wigglesworth on May 22, 2013 at 12:07 PM
troyriser_gopftw on May 22, 2013 at 12:03 PM
Karl Rove is advising Rubio ? Sure sounds like it .
Lucano on May 22, 2013 at 12:09 PM
Hey Palinistas,
When’s yo hero gonna go grizzly on Hatch’s pay-for-play, backstabbing, primary-victorious azz?
kunegetikos on May 22, 2013 at 12:13 PM
In the Spirit of Bi-Partisanship we dump the gehs…
workingclass artist on May 22, 2013 at 12:15 PM
Um, not for nothing, but exactly what the f*ck does Palin have to do with anything being discussed here? Pull your head out.
Midas on May 22, 2013 at 12:18 PM
Obamacare is the shaft…Immigration Bill removes the KY on the shaft.
Both hurt like hell and Americans have the IRS to request they smile while they take the shaft.
si si puede…
workingclass artist on May 22, 2013 at 12:18 PM
Understand yet?
kunegetikos on May 22, 2013 at 12:19 PM
Bishop on May 22, 2013 at 11:25 AM
He can run, but he can’t hide from this screw up with the Gang of Eight! Where’s McConnell, by the way? AWOL, as usual!
tomshup on May 22, 2013 at 12:21 PM
Should I even waste my time calling Corker or Alexander? *sigh*
pannw on May 22, 2013 at 12:26 PM
I agree. ObamaCare can be undone; amnesty cannot. Mexico has 115 million people. They are projecting that 33 million will come here as a result of amnesty and family reunification. That nearly 30% of Mexico’s population.
The Democrats will have tens on millions of additional voters. Grover Norquist and the Chamber of Commerce will have cheap labor subsidized by the U.S. taxpayers. We will lose our national identity and the country will move to the left.
bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 12:36 PM
Fixed, as I can see no higher calling in life than to be referred to as “our Republicans” by the biggest poser in the Senate.
MNHawk on May 22, 2013 at 12:37 PM
Actually McConnell has cleared the way for a floor vote.
bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 12:38 PM
Throw the whole “Gang of 8″ in prison for subverting the Constitution and refusing to enforce existing laws. Congressional representatives is an oxymoron.
ultracon on May 22, 2013 at 12:39 PM
Last night Howie Carr was substituting for Mark Levin and he attacked this bill much harder than Levin ever did. Levin and Limbaugh have been far too easy on Rubio. I discount Hannity because he is worthless any way.
bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 12:41 PM
As the owner of the largest privately held ISP on the West Coast, of which information highly discrete and confidential, we do have a politics drop down for discussion to our 286,000 residential customers as well as 1.3M business customers. Today’s homepage will be on these representative’s bio’s as to who introduced them to us, who supported and who continues to support Rubio, Flake, McCain and Graham. These will be the folks that allowed these four to throw what’s left of the Republican Party over to the Democrats. Without securing the border as our first priority all 4 must go, non negotiable. Time for a 3rd party my friends as with representatives like this who needs Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, et al.,? Not me and that is non negotiable.
Tea Party Marco Rubio will be out and the Tea Party created this monster called Jeff Flake who will be making our lives as Republicans miserable for the balance of this term. So to the Tea Parties that created the Akins, Rubio’s Flakes, et al., keep your candidates! You’re destroying our country literally. So now my manager teams square off and do some historical digging and I want names of those individuals who first introduced us to Marco Rubio and Jeff Flake first then on to the Akin’s, O’Donnell’s, et al.
Tangerinesong on May 22, 2013 at 12:46 PM
Another huge legislative turd moving through the bowels of Congress. They will have to pass it to see what’s in it.
kirkill on May 22, 2013 at 12:56 PM
Hiding the contents of the bill is to give the Republicans cover. That is, to deceive the public on behalf of the GOP.
The Dems don’t care.
kunegetikos on May 22, 2013 at 1:03 PM
Two big radio hosts have barely discussed immigration .
Both conservative , one is the Big Kahuna .
What do these guys have in common ?
Lucano on May 22, 2013 at 12:03 PM
Last night Howie Carr was substituting for Mark Levin and he attacked this bill much harder than Levin ever did. Levin and Limbaugh have been far too easy on Rubio. I discount Hannity because he is worthless any way.
bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 12:41 PM
Actually I was referring to Rush and Glenn . Both are sponsored by Matt Kibbe and Freedom Works .
I love Levin but don’t listen and don’t know if he has the same sponsors .
I got suspicious about Kibbe when he had to buy out Dick Armey for 6 m$ . Big bucks .
Freedom Works is ” sitting out ” the immigration deal .
Do they advertise on Levin ?
I don’t know why Rush is staying away from the issue . It has to be more than Rubio is a friend .
I’ve never known Rush to be for something ( by silence ) that’s not good for this country .
There has to be an answer .
Lucano on May 22, 2013 at 1:23 PM
More like Bunraku than Kabuki
DarkCurrent on May 22, 2013 at 1:38 PM
That is being waaaay too optimistic.
This is Obamacare all over again.
Myron Falwell on May 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM
Answer:
kunegetikos on May 22, 2013 at 1:44 PM
It is also full of pork for Graham, Hatch, et al.
kunegetikos on May 22, 2013 at 1:45 PM
Oh, please. The entire bill is the GOP getting rolled.
Anyone can bring a lawsuit to save a salamander on the border from a fence being built, tie things up in court for 10 years, and all illegals become legal. That is the bill. End of story.
Lawsuits gut border security.
Carnac on May 22, 2013 at 1:46 PM
Rush just said ….The bill is not ment to pass . The dems want the issue for 2014 .
I wish I were so sure of that .
Honestly , his reputation is at stake and I can’t imagine him screwing with his base .
Lucano on May 22, 2013 at 1:58 PM
Wrong. Rubio knows what is in the bill and he is rolling the base, along with Schumer’s “our Republicans,” Rush, the WSJ, the Chamber of Commerce, etc.
kunegetikos on May 22, 2013 at 2:57 PM
How could anyone, even a Republican who supports immigration reform, as I do, support this deceitful mess?
kunegetikos on May 22, 2013 at 3:01 PM
You are right. Predictions from left or right wing talking heads are worth the price you pay for them. Which is not too much.
Search Limbaugh predictions of the past. even if you knock off the unfair nonsense from the lefty morons, he is still a little shaky in the psychic department.
And Dick Morris was an irresponsible huckster and disaster merchant before he went way out on a limb with the last election.
I laugh at the clowns who worship these commentators.
IlikedAUH2O on May 22, 2013 at 3:09 PM
…and if he is wrong, Rush can verbally wiggle right around it given the serpentine course of legislation.
IlikedAUH2O on May 22, 2013 at 3:10 PM