Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads

posted at 8:01 am on February 10, 2013 by Allahpundit

No Chuck Schumer this week but the three other horsemen of comprehensive immigration reform — McCain, Graham, and Dick Durbin — will all make the rounds on behalf of earned amnesty. Maverick might be worth watching for once, not for his thoughts on the path to citizenship but for his thoughts on where things stand with Hagel’s nomination. If he changes his mind on an up-or-down vote and calls for a filibuster, that could be it. And privately, Democrats will shed no tears.

The other spotlight this morning is on Rand Paul, who’ll elaborate on the containment strategy outlined in his foreign-policy speech this week and try to explain how his tea-party SOTU rebuttal will differ in any significant way from Rubio’s. The line-up via National Journal:

Meet the Press hosts House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin, California Lieutenant Governor Gavin Newsom and Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed

Face the Nation hosts Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., and Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich.

This Week hosts Rep. Tom Cole, R-Okla., and Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn.

Fox News Sunday hosts House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Rep. Tom Cotton, R-Ark.

State of the Union hosts Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., Sen. Angus King, I-Maine, former Defense Secretary Robert Gates, former Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, and Rep. Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill.


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Good morning HA! I have no tv so I rely on your informative insights on all this. ; )

Bmore on February 10, 2013 at 8:13 AM

Meet the Press hosts House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin, California Lieutenant Governor Gavin Newsom and Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed

Mostly a Dem lovefest here.

All of the others are surprisingly balanced with Rs & Ds.

itsnotaboutme on February 10, 2013 at 8:14 AM

So basically the take away is we’re losing our AR’s, Texas will become a blue state, Rand wants his cake and to eat it too, and apparently the Hagel/Farrakhan 2016 ticket is going to get upended in favor of a Clinton/Farraro ticket. Got’cha.

abobo on February 10, 2013 at 8:16 AM

Dick Durbin: “More guns are not the answer, I just know it.” Presented without evidence after the Sandy Hook ES atrocity. Why is this jackass so visible?

ExpressoBold on February 10, 2013 at 8:16 AM

I won’t watch the others, but maybe I’d watch FNS if they would discuss the concerns about Chuck Hagel.

22044 on February 10, 2013 at 8:24 AM

Good morning Bmore

22044 on February 10, 2013 at 8:25 AM

Commie lovefests.

Mr. Arrogant on February 10, 2013 at 8:29 AM

Morning 22044. ; )

Bmore on February 10, 2013 at 8:30 AM

This site sure is acting quirky as of late. Tweeking java? Spent servers? Anyone know?

Bmore on February 10, 2013 at 8:35 AM

40 inches in CT. Man o man! Hope you all are okay up there.

Bmore on February 10, 2013 at 8:37 AM

Anyone here think Rand Paul has a good chance if becoming the presidential nominee?

bluegill on February 10, 2013 at 8:38 AM

Anyone here think Rand Paul has a good chance if becoming the presidential nominee?

bluegill on February 10, 2013 at 8:38 AM

If he stays a Republican, no.

Mr. Arrogant on February 10, 2013 at 8:44 AM

Apparently Blue Buddha has a hand full of breadballs this a.m.

Bmore on February 10, 2013 at 8:54 AM

Anyone here think Rand Paul has a good chance if becoming the presidential nominee?

bluegill on February 10, 2013 at 8:38 AM

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Of what party?

ExpressoBold on February 10, 2013 at 8:54 AM

Anyone here think Rand Paul has a good chance if becoming the presidential nominee?

bluegill on February 10, 2013 at 8:38 AM

Maybe if he muzzles Daddy in the attic ?

workingclass artist on February 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM

Sunday morning talk show guests?

Seriously, in the words of the most popular politician in America, Hillary Clinton…..

“At this point, what difference does it make?”

PappyD61 on February 10, 2013 at 9:01 AM

Rep. Tom Cole, R-Okla

Complete Ruling class tool, sorry, it’s true.

He’s the House version of Senator Tom Coburn.

PappyD61 on February 10, 2013 at 9:03 AM

Mostly a Dem lovefest here.

All of the others are surprisingly balanced with Rs & Ds.

itsnotaboutme on February 10, 2013 at 8:14 AM

All RINOs or people incapable of making the case for our side, other than Rand Paul on CNN where no one watches.

commodore on February 10, 2013 at 9:06 AM

What’s wrong with the left eye of this drug-addled, alcoholic harpy?

ExpressoBold on February 10, 2013 at 9:06 AM

Round tables of the political elite who don’t care a lick about us.

How does anyone stomach watching these programs?

fogw on February 10, 2013 at 9:14 AM

What’s wrong with the left eye of this drug-addled, alcoholic harpy?

ExpressoBold on February 10, 2013 at 9:06 AM

Pelosi?

22044 on February 10, 2013 at 9:20 AM

Well at least Pelosi said she supports the 1st Amendment and our gun rights. Glad she cleared up that confusion. I need a drink.

Limerick on February 10, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Pelosi?

22044 on February 10, 2013 at 9:20 AM

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Yes, or the familial appellation “the hairy ones” applied to a drug-addled, alcoholic harpy.

ExpressoBold on February 10, 2013 at 9:27 AM

1st Amendment and our gun rights. Glad she cleared up that confusion…

Limerick on February 10, 2013 at 9:23 AM

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Yeah, the first amendment… that’s the “sports and hunting” use of firearms, isn’t it? Wait, I’ll look it up…
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Nope, not there. Anyway, she’s a Kongress Kritter, she’s like dope! She knows what she’s rambling on about, right?

ExpressoBold on February 10, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Marlantes: “… messaging …?”

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Hey, Liz, how about the LSM practice of twisting the conservative / Republican “message,” no matter what it is, to make it say something that it does not. “Messaging” is being controlled by the liberal media, not the conservative leadership.
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What a dumb, uninformed assumption and statement…

ExpressoBold on February 10, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Good Morning, HotGassers. :-)

tommy71 on February 10, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Meet the Press, 3 communist guests, one communist host, and Eric Cantor.

NBC and MSNBC are indistinguishable.

CorporatePiggy on February 10, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Juan: “… I gues you’re pickin’ on the president …”

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Victim-azz putz …

ExpressoBold on February 10, 2013 at 9:52 AM

Morning, tommy71

Slow thread. If Hot Gas cancelled it, would anybody miss it?

22044 on February 10, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Writer George Saunders on “This Week” … yeah, I was an Ayn Rand guy, a rather dull minded conservative in my youth. But then my eyes were opened up to the suffering in the world …

And now he’s just a self-indulgent jerk.

Paul-Cincy on February 10, 2013 at 9:59 AM

Morning all on this football-less Sunday.Seeing that hag Pelosi is not what I had in mind, Ugh!

jeffinsjvca on February 10, 2013 at 10:04 AM

I just can’t bring myself to turn on any of these shows!

CoffeeLover on February 10, 2013 at 10:08 AM

The NYT, and Brian Doherty, is in love with Rand Paul’s endorsement of a policy of containment as the centerpiece of his “more defense, less offense” foreign-policy; and Kennan’s containment policy worked quite well with the Soviet Union, probably because you had two states that really didn’t want to start slinging nukes at each other.
But, when faced with an adversary who is already engaged, and is heedless of (nay, welcomes) the end-game, the 20th-Century demonstrates that the best defense is a good offense (Black-Jack Pershing).

Another Drew on February 10, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Anyone here think Rand Paul has a good chance if becoming the presidential nominee?

bluegill on February 10, 2013 at 8:38 AM

The old man, a 77 year old Congressman, scared the pants off of the party, and laid a whooping on some candidates a lot of people thought did have a good chance of getting the nod.

Something tells me his Senator son who doesn’t poke the Israel-Firsters for fun, and doesn’t have a trail of newsletters, will do even better…

JohnGalt23 on February 10, 2013 at 10:15 AM

the 20th-Century demonstrates that the best defense is a good offense (Black-Jack Pershing).

Another Drew on February 10, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Normally I’d say to stop being stuck in the 20th century. But you are flirting with being stuck in the 19th century…

JohnGalt23 on February 10, 2013 at 10:17 AM

Anyone here think Rand Paul has a good chance if becoming the presidential nominee?

bluegill on February 10, 2013 at 8:38 AM

No.. There are at least ten more compelling candidates that I can think of. Plus, Daddy is a huge liability. I cannot wait for his next tweets disparaging U.S. military heroes.

Illinidiva on February 10, 2013 at 10:18 AM

What’s wrong with the left eye of this drug-addled, alcoholic harpy?

I don’t mean to be nit-picky but there was a time when this comment would get the author banned. Just sayin’.

mike_NC9 on February 10, 2013 at 10:20 AM

Anyone here think Rand Paul has a good chance if becoming the presidential nominee?

bluegill on February 10, 2013 at 8:38 AM

I think he has a very good chance.

gophergirl on February 10, 2013 at 10:24 AM

I don’t mean to be nit-picky but there was a time when this comment would get the author banned. Just sayin’.

mike_NC9 on February 10, 2013 at 10:20 AM

It was the “harpy” comment that got you, wasn’t it:

har·py
/ˈhärpē/
Noun

1. A rapacious monster described as having a woman’s head and body and a bird’s wings and claws or depicted as a bird of prey with a…
2. A grasping, unscrupulous woman.

Paul-Cincy on February 10, 2013 at 10:26 AM

@22044 Yep, slow day. Lot of HotGassers are church folk.

tommy71 on February 10, 2013 at 10:27 AM

I don’t mean to be nit-picky but there was a time when this comment would get the author banned. Just sayin’.

mike_NC9 on February 10, 2013 at 10:20 AM

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Don’t mean to be nit-picky but concern trolls are never welcome… Jes sayin’.

ExpressoBold on February 10, 2013 at 10:29 AM

2. A grasping, unscrupulous woman.

Paul-Cincy on February 10, 2013 at 10:26 AM

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Thank you for setting mike_NC9 straight.

ExpressoBold on February 10, 2013 at 10:30 AM

Paul-Cincy on February 10, 2013 at 10:26 AM

LOL!…No.

mike_NC9 on February 10, 2013 at 10:30 AM

No.. There are at least ten more compelling candidates that I can think of.

Illinidiva on February 10, 2013 at 10:18 AM

Please. Name them…

JohnGalt23 on February 10, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Oh my gosh it is alternating between sleet, freezing rain and snow this morning.

Roads are going to be a nightmare. Good day to stay in my jammies.

gophergirl on February 10, 2013 at 10:38 AM

Sounds like an excellent idea GG.

CoffeeLover on February 10, 2013 at 10:42 AM

mike_NC9 on February 10, 2013 at 10:20 AM

Its not like that anymore.

Bmore on February 10, 2013 at 10:44 AM

ExpressoBold on February 10, 2013 at 10:30 AM

I was trying to be helpful not attack you. I’ve been reading and commenting at this blog since it started. Never tried to gain acceptance or be “welcomed” although I have always appreciated the civil and intelligent nature of the comments here.

What a dumb, uninformed assumption and statement…

ExpressoBold on February 10, 2013 at 9:41 AM

I’m starting to get a better picture of how you operate and perhaps I should just shut up and let the process play out. Thanks

mike_NC9 on February 10, 2013 at 10:47 AM

No, the comment was related to Marlantes, who is as clueless as Jeff’ Enchanted’ Zeleny

narciso on February 10, 2013 at 10:54 AM

OT– but if another liberal tells me voter fraud is a red herring….

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/02/09/Democratic-Ohio-Poll-Watcher-Yeah-I-Voted-For-Obama-Twice

Watch the lady…and listen to her excuses. She in fact completed ballots for relatives as well. Sorry this one is FOS.

CW on February 10, 2013 at 10:55 AM

Is there ever a Sunday without John McCain and his gal-pal Miss Lucy?

bw222 on February 10, 2013 at 11:10 AM

Can Rand win?
NO. His speech point this week which would allow Iran to go nuclear and then be “contained” disqualifies him as a serious Republican candidate. He is smarter than his pappy and much more careful in what he says and how he says it…but lurking underneath is a stealth libertarian who is at odds with many Republican beliefs & tenets.
Since many of his beliefs also DO conform to Republican goals…by stressing those, he is able to come across as more reasonable and sensible than Pappy. I was hoping that he really WAS different…because I like a LOT of what he says. This week opened my eyes as it should any Reps who believe in a strong defense, support for Israel and the impossibility of containing a nuclear Iran with all that would mean for the ENTIRE middle east strategic balance.
The moment we know Iran is about to go nuclear is the moment THEY should expect our bunker busters to rain down upon them. There should be NO DOUBT in the Ayatollahs mind about this. RAND wants more dialogue at this point. Naive and dangerous.

camaraderie on February 10, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Well seeing as Cruz, carved up Brennan, like a Christmas goose, a smart booker, would have had him on, what does that tell you about Fox.

narciso on February 10, 2013 at 11:32 AM

I’m starting to get a better picture of how you operate and perhaps I should just shut up and let the process play out. Thanks

mike_NC9 on February 10, 2013 at 10:47 AM

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Same here, you PC concern-troll flamer…

ExpressoBold on February 10, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Meet the Press hosts House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin, California Lieutenant Governor Gavin Newsom and Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed

Face the Nation hosts Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., and Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich.

This Week hosts Rep. Tom Cole, R-Okla., and Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn.

Fox News Sunday hosts House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Rep. Tom Cotton, R-Ark.

State of the Union hosts Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., Sen. Angus King, I-Maine, former Defense Secretary Robert Gates, former Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, and Rep. Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill.

…NO…NO…NO…NO…and NO!

Sunday morning talking heads

…Rogers and Paul maybe!…the rest are talking clowns!

KOOLAID2 on February 10, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Well seeing as Cruz, carved up Brennan, like a Christmas goose, a smart booker, would have had him on, what does that tell you about Fox.

narciso

Cruz is anti-amnesty, and isn’t a Rove guy. Fox ain’t having that.

xblade on February 10, 2013 at 11:47 AM

So, there really is no point to the exercise, the problem is Arab proliferation, really began with Pakistan, Libya had some initial effort, which were expanded into the Fifth Horseman, but the Kingdom and other places funnelled many resources into Kahuta,

narciso on February 10, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Anyone here think Rand Paul has a good chance if becoming the presidential nominee?

bluegill on February 10, 2013 at 8:38 AM

…a better chance… than a bluegill ever finding it’s way into my skillet…when perch is available!

KOOLAID2 on February 10, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Anyone here think Rand Paul has a good chance if becoming the presidential nominee?

bluegill on February 10, 2013 at 8:38 AM

We “conservatives” will eviscerate him first. Then the Dems and the MSM will get a crack at him.

Cleombrotus on February 10, 2013 at 12:18 PM

“We avow the First Amendment, we stand with that and say that people have the right to own a gun.”

-Rep. Nancy Pelosi, (D-CA), Fox News Sunday, this morning

In addition, she said that there is no spending problem, the Buffett Rule not a tax hike and raising Medicare age won’t save money.

Delusional and disastrous appearance.

Resist We Much on February 10, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Well there is a problem between his strong opposition to Islam, and yet his hatred for Neocons, the latter was reacting against a realist perspective that excused both nationalist regimes like Iraq, and Salafi ones like Saudi Arabia,

narciso on February 10, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Anyone here think Rand Paul has a good chance if becoming the presidential nominee?

bluegill on February 10, 2013 at 8:38 AM

2016 is a long long time away, how about let’s see what these people can do before destroying them on the off chance that they might challenge one of your favorite squishes.

Cindy Munford on February 10, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Only if she was challenged, RWM,

narciso on February 10, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Resist We Much – always enjoy your posts. I swear, I thought either Nancy Pelosi or I was on drugs this morning. Paying Their Fair Share? When will this nightmare ever end? Even Chris Wallace, as succinctly as he ever has, informed her there just isn’t enough money – even fully confiscated – to close this insane deficit over which SHE has presided. Does it sink a millimeter into whatever little grey matter she might actually possess?

Texlib on February 10, 2013 at 12:34 PM

No, she’s from San Francisco, West Coast capital of cluelessness, originally from Baltimore, but the brainslugs have fully set in,

narciso on February 10, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Please. Name them…

JohnGalt23 on February 10, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Rubio of course… Ryan, Jindal, Walker, Martinez, Ayotte, Sandoval, Haley, Snyder, and McDonnell.

Heck even Chris Christie would do better in a general election although I’d prefer not to go there. Why people insist on pushing a candidate with no redeeming qualities whatsoever who will lose by 10 points in a general election is beyond me. (I’d love to hear more about Paul’s take on the unconstitutionality of the Civil Rights Act). But hey it’ll make you feel good about yourselves.

2016 is a long long time away, how about let’s see what these people can do before destroying them on the off chance that they might challenge one of your favorite squishes.

Cindy Munford on February 10, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Ummm.. I know how dare we think about winning.

Illinidiva on February 10, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Rubio of course… Ryan, Jindal, Walker, Martinez, Ayotte, Sandoval, Haley, Snyder, and McDonnell.

Out of those 10, I like 4 of them. Maybe 5. And Paul might pass them.

22044 on February 10, 2013 at 12:58 PM

…a better chance… than a bluegill ever finding it’s way into my skillet…when perch is available!

KOOLAID2 on February 10, 2013 at 11:52 AM

LOL, that’s what I like about you Kool! Just logging on.

bluefox on February 10, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Rubio of course… Ryan, Jindal, Walker, Martinez, Ayotte, Sandoval, Haley, Snyder, and McDonnell.

At this point, I measure my candidates by two things: First, how much do they appear to understand what they are up against, and Two: How much “fight” do they then show accordingly.

Paul scores high on my meter. A few of them on that list don’t even make my list. Because, at this point, that’s all we have left.

Cleombrotus on February 10, 2013 at 1:02 PM

onlineanalyst on February 10, 2013 at 9:53 AM

Good article by Cheney. I see a thread is up about this.

bluefox on February 10, 2013 at 1:05 PM

-Rep. Nancy Pelosi, (D-CA), Fox News Sunday, this morning

In addition, she said that there is no spending problem, the Buffett Rule not a tax hike and raising Medicare age won’t save money.

Delusional and disastrous appearance.

Resist We Much on February 10, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Aren’t they all? I hope the good guys have received their vaccine against this liberal/rino disease! Seems like is spreads quickly.

bluefox on February 10, 2013 at 1:08 PM

…Rogers and Paul maybe!…the rest are talking clowns!

KOOLAID2 on February 10, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Mike Rogers is my congressman and he is GOPe to the core.

bw222 on February 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Ummm.. I know how dare we think about winning.

Illinidiva on February 10, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Most of those would be a win perhaps for you and the Cotton Conservatives a.k.a. RINOS, but not we Conservatives.

Besides, Jeb Bush is their guy:-)

bluefox on February 10, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Democrats such as Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL), who slammed Dr. Carson’s remarks as “not appropriate” on CNN’s State of the Union with Candy Crowley Sunday morning.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/02/10/Democrats-Slam-Carson-for-Prayer-Breakfast-Speech-Not-Appropriate-Says-Schakowsky

Anyone see that? Breitbart has the Video up.

I was wondering when they would start.

bluefox on February 10, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Most of those would be a win perhaps for you and the Cotton Conservatives a.k.a. RINOS, but not we Conservatives.

Besides, Jeb Bush is their guy:-)

bluefox on February 10, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Umm… Yes, this is why I see Rubio all over the place. The Republican Party is totally pushing Jeb Bush in 2016; they totally aren’t grooming Rubio.

Also… Now not only are Rubio and Ryan RINOs, but Walker is as well.

Illinidiva on February 10, 2013 at 1:16 PM

bluefox on February 10, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Umm… Yes, this is why I see Rubio all over the place. The Republican Party is totally pushing Jeb Bush in 2016; they totally aren’t grooming Rubio.

Also… Now not only are Rubio and Ryan RINOs, but Walker is as well.

Illinidiva on February 10, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Unless Rubio messes up, I think he’ll be the VP for Jeb Bush.
Time will tell tho. Jeb Bush has taken a couple of shots at Rubio tho. Not by name yet, but the content of his criticism over Immigration was clear enough he was sending Rubio a message.

bluefox on February 10, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Unless Rubio messes up, I think he’ll be the VP for Jeb Bush.
Time will tell tho. Jeb Bush has taken a couple of shots at Rubio tho. Not by name yet, but the content of his criticism over Immigration was clear enough he was sending Rubio a message.

bluefox on February 10, 2013 at 1:41 PM

It is Constitutionally impossible for Rubio to be Jeb Bush’s VP unless Republicans would like to forfeit the electoral votes from Florida. It’s either the 11th or 12th amendment. Jeb Bush’s vanity run isn’t happening. Rubio has way too many positives to allow for a Jeb Bush vanity nomination. He knows that is over; this is why he is lashing out at his former protege. Hence Rubio ended the careers of both the Oompa Loompa and Jeb Bush.

Illinidiva on February 10, 2013 at 1:56 PM

It’s been a while since I rated this mess, mostly because I just don’t give a crap anymore. Here’s to better days:

Meet the Press R, D-Dick, D, D

Face the Nation R, D, R

This Week R, D-Mohammed

Fox News D-Kook, R-Rino, R

CNN R, D, R-TRino, D-Kook

Scoring such a worthless bunch of ruling class losers is pointless. Zero is the only apropriate score, or with Rand maybe a 1.

Democrats get a -143 … they should all be whipped.

Jaibones on February 10, 2013 at 2:26 PM

I see the stupid party is allowing the Democrats to lead on messaging, as far as the sequester is concerned. Boehner needs to submit an alternative, tell the Democrats he’s more than willing to negotiate with them, as soon as he sees their, plus the Presidents alternative proposals. Then he needs to shut up and let them message all they want. Until he passes his plan and does a presser about it and puts it out plainly, so as to leave no doubt where the responsibility lies, and then let the Democrats message all they want.

The Administration is telling people all the bad things that are going to happen with sequestration, except it’s all lies, they increased spending by 8% the first year Obama came to office and have artifically kept it up there since by refusing to pass a budget. This is going to be a 4% cut so what is the problem?

bflat879 on February 10, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Illinidiva on February 10, 2013 at 1:56 PM

This was covered on another thread that The President and the VP can be from the same State. Can’t recall which thread at the moment and won’t take the time to search. Too far out. That pick of President and VP is my opinion. Not what I want, just what I think the RINOS have in mind. You know, like McCain/Romney and those before.

bluefox on February 10, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Rubio of course… Ryan, Jindal, Walker, Martinez, Ayotte, Sandoval, Haley, Snyder, and McDonnell.

Illinidiva on February 10, 2013 at 12:42 PM

I’ll give you Jindal, Rubio and McDonnell.

Ryan? House member who was already on a losing ticket? Please.

Walker, Haley, Snyder(?!), Martinez and Sandoval all have to win re-election before 2016, and thus will likely be spending all their money and (save for Haley, who is in a safe GOP state) political capital in 2014. And Brian Sandoval is (allegedly) already talking about competing for Reid’s seat in 2016.

Ayotte is interesting, but so far appears to to be in the go-along-to-get-along caucus. She sure isn’t making a name for herself like Paul and Rubio.

JohnGalt23 on February 10, 2013 at 2:58 PM

…Rogers and Paul maybe!…the rest are talking clowns!

KOOLAID2 on February 10, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Mike Rogers is my congressman and he is GOPe to the core.

bw222 on February 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM

…my congressman too…I’m in the Milford area.

KOOLAID2 on February 10, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Pelosi doesn’t know what each Amendment protects and sputters nonsense about what the “right to bear arms” means.

Meawhile

Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL) admitted to David Gregory on Meet the Press today that the Obama sequestration plan was just a political game and was never intended to move forward.

“David, sequestration was designed as a budget threat, not as a budget strategy. And, I think all of us understand that if it goes forward in less than three weeks it’s going to have a dramatic negative impact on several agencies.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com …

Durbin thinks that being a senator means playing political games.

Can we get rid of these fools?

onlineanalyst on February 10, 2013 at 4:54 PM

bluefox. Yes they can but cannot receive the electoral votes for that state. Jeb Bush and Rubio could run together but would forfeit the electoral votes from Florida… Umm why exactly would the Rs do that?

JohnGalt23. All the governors run for reelection in 2014, not 2016. If anything Jindal and Rubio are both the ones screwed over in 2016. Rubio’s Senate seat is up in 2016 and Jindal run for reelection in 2015, so decisions have to be made there.

As for Ryan, I think that he presents an interesting case study. He retains huge influence in the R party and escaped from the 2012 campaign relatively unscathed. The last three losing VPs have had issues.. Lieberman was out of step with the Ds on foreign policy, Edwards was a sleaze, and Palin was utterly destroyed during the campaign. Ryan has none of those issues. He’d probably be the frontrunner if not for the Savior. Ryan’s main issues are Rubio and his own desire to run.

Illinidiva on February 10, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Don’t you just love it when “moderate” RINOs tell you conservatives can’t win? Any of you unprincipled frauds ever hear of McCain or Romney?

redware on February 10, 2013 at 6:05 PM

All the governors run for reelection in 2014, not 2016.

Illinidiva on February 10, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Not McDonnell…

JohnGalt23 on February 10, 2013 at 6:41 PM

they should all be whipped.

Jaibones on February 10, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Good to see you! ; )

Bmore on February 10, 2013 at 7:56 PM

testing..:)

Dire Straits on February 11, 2013 at 7:16 AM