Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on February 9, 2013 by Allahpundit

The attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq compelled the United States to boost the speed and accuracy with which it targets terrorists. But it was not until the Obama administration that U.S. technology and intelligence caught up with the need to take down terrorist networks rather than just individual leaders. As a result, there have been three to six times more drone strikes under Obama than under Bush.

While the use of drone warfare has come of age under Obama, whether he comes to be defined by this weapon is very much a political question. The tool kit of the war on terror includes far more than armed drones, but for a modern president, perception is reality. Drone strikes generate enormous controversy. For some, even the nomination of John Brennan — the public face of the administration’s drone program — to run the CIA indicates the centrality of drones to an “Obama Doctrine.”

In his Senate confirmation hearing Thursday, Brennan emphasized his commitment to Congress’s oversight of overt and covert programs. It will remain critical for him and the White House to continue to articulate their overall approach to combating terrorism, making the case that drones are part of the strategy, not a substitute for it.

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Of course, it’s no small irony that the candidate who once railed against the Bush administration’s so-called imperial presidency in the war on terror now finds himself under attack by his own base (and a few on the right) for his “secret” program of targeted killings. However, there is nothing like reality—in this case, the global, nebulous network of al Qaeda and allied terrorists—to bring home to a sitting president his fundamental constitutional responsibility to protect the lives and property of his fellow citizens.

The further irony is that while the Justice Department argues that a targeted killing can only take place when the targeted person poses “an imminent threat of violent attack against the United States,” it so broadens the concept that it concludes that the government need not have “clear evidence that a specific attack on U.S. person and interests will take place in the immediate future”—only a pattern of plotting such attacks. Given the spotty past record of the intelligence community in actually knowing when a specific terrorist plot is underway, this redefining of “imminent” is reasonable enough—although it can’t help but remind folks of the similar logic behind the Bush administration’s justification for preemptive war.

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This administration, while vowing transparency and accountability, has actually become ever more secretive and punitive: stamping “classified” on everything in sight, pursuing whistle-blowers as never before, and prosecuting journalists for publishing leaked information.

All in the name of national security, the hammer of choice.

The real threat to national security is a government operating in secret and accountable to no one, with watchdogs that are too willing to muzzle themselves…

What’s missing in the dark and ever-expanding world of drone warfare is a big helping of accountability, served up in the bright light of day.

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ASSANGE: Look, we’ve risen to a situation, or collapsed to a situation in the United States now where you can be killed by someone in the White House, President on down, for completely arbitrary reasons. You won’t know that you’re on the kill list until you’re dead. And lawyers, if you have a suspicion that you might be on this kill list, they can’t even represent you. That was a case for our lawyers this (?) for constitutional rights trying to represent Anwar al-Awlaki. He was discovered to be on that kill list, and his son wasn’t even allowed to be his lawyer because he was part of a proscribed organization.

So, that’s a, I can’t see a greater collapse when the executive can kill its own citizens, arbitrarily, at will, in secret, without any of the decision-making becoming public, without even the rules of procedure, without even the law behind this being public.

So, that’s why we need organizations like WikiLeaks, and I encourage anyone in the White House that has access to those rules and procedures, walk them on over to us. We’ll keep you secret and reveal it to the public.

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This brings us, finally, to the last big-picture point: There is abundant opportunity in Obama’s hypocrisy. For a dozen years, we have engaged in heated debates about Bush counterterrorism practices. After four years of watching Obama enthusiastically adopt what he once condemned, we now know Bush detractors were animated by politics, not conviction. We now know that, across a broad spectrum of Obama progressives and national-security conservatives, there is consensus about an aggressive counterterrorism model.

Though neither the civilian nor the military justice system is a comfortable fit for modern international terrorism, we have wasted years slamming the square peg into these round holes. Instead, we should have been designing a new, hybrid legal framework for the modern realities of international terrorism: the need to detain jihadists who cannot be tried under civilian due-process standards; the need effectively to interrogate jihadist prisoners to whom Geneva Convention protections for honorable combatants do not apply; the need to conduct searching, rapid-fire cross-border surveillance; the need to capture and sometimes kill enemy operatives who lurk in the shadows, far from traditional battlefields — some of whom will inevitably be American citizens; the need to revise the AUMF to reflect the current state of the war and remove uncertainty — or illegitimacy — in the determination of who qualifies as an enemy combatant.

For many years, I have argued that we need a new national-security court to deal with the unique legal challenges of a war against transnational terrorists. If anything, the need is more urgent now than ever. No matter what the future of counterterrorism is, though, there needs to be congressional buy-in. President Bush could never deliver that: Democrats were too determined to smear for political purposes the strategies they abruptly embraced once they were accountable for the nation’s security. But President Obama could do it — he could deliver plenty of Democrats. Together with the strong Republican support that is guaranteed, we could very quickly have an enduring, constitutionally sound counterterrorism framework. We could craft legislation that provides broad executive discretion but avoids the dangerous excesses of the Justice Department white paper.

All President Obama has to do is lead.

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BILL MAHER, HOST OF “REAL TIME” ON HBO: The Obama administration has been heavily targeting whistleblowers — true — and information activists. What can we do to hold the government accountable for this harsh crackdown?…

TINA BROWN, NEWSWEEK: I mean, he’d be impeached by now for drones, if he was George W. Bush.

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Via Newsbusters.

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Maher summed up the drone policy as “we will fry anyone in the world with our flying killer robots because someone we know wrote it down on a piece of paper, and therefore it’s legal.” He clarified that he’s not completely against this line of thinking, but in spite of the fact that Obama is the “swell guy” and Bush was the “dumb oaf,” he said it’s essentially the same “we’re good, they’re bad” policy.


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It’s here!

predator on February 9, 2013 at 8:34 PM

And so am I.

predator on February 9, 2013 at 8:34 PM

All by myself.

predator on February 9, 2013 at 8:34 PM

Booossshhh!!!!!

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 8:35 PM

predator!!!

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 8:35 PM

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 8:35 PM

Aaaauuuggghh! You scared me. I thought I the only one here. Didn’t see you come in. Now I can go back up and see what this is about tonight.

predator on February 9, 2013 at 8:36 PM

I miss W.

Brat on February 9, 2013 at 8:36 PM

It’s cool, we drop leaflets with their Miranda rights before the kill shot.

John the Libertarian on February 9, 2013 at 8:37 PM

predator, did you get to enjoy the Dr. this a.m. as planned?

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 8:37 PM

John the Libertarian on February 9, 2013 at 8:37 PM

In English?

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 8:39 PM

predator, did you get to enjoy the Dr. this a.m. as planned?

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Had to think about that one for a moment. :O

Dr. Ben? Absolutely! Excoriating political correctness to open then doing his own version of drone strikes on ‘Bammy’s policies. Delicious! Better than breakfast even!

predator on February 9, 2013 at 8:41 PM

It’s funny how narratives are just dropped on a dime. “Oh, that didn’t work? Let’s just throw the exact opposite at the wall and see if that sticks”.

segasagez on February 9, 2013 at 7:22 PM

Written in English on the inner cover of a Koran. … And the outer cover as well as on a number of the more offensive passages — in sharpie.

AZfederalist on February 9, 2013 at 8:42 PM

“Today, candor compels us to admit that our vaunted two-party system is a snare and a delusion, a fraud upon the nation. Our two parties have become nothing but two wings of the same bird of prey.”~Pat Buchanan, October, 1999

davidk on February 9, 2013 at 8:42 PM

The state run media is all over this…

d1carter on February 9, 2013 at 8:42 PM

predator on February 9, 2013 at 8:41 PM

It was truly delicious. Red meat as they say. Knew you would enjoy that! ; )

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 8:43 PM

God bless you, Andy McCarthy. You are a voice of reason with a real-world understanding of the enemy that we are dealing with.

onlineanalyst on February 9, 2013 at 8:44 PM

John the Libertarian on February 9, 2013 at 8:37 PM

In English?

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Made sense to me. ;)

Snark. The target’s rights will be delivered before they get nuked.

kim roy on February 9, 2013 at 8:44 PM

AZfederalist on February 9, 2013 at 8:42 PM

Lol! Evening AZ. I see what you did there. ; )

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 8:44 PM

Dear Leader: Americans who own AR 15′s are obvious terrorists…send in the drones.

d1carter on February 9, 2013 at 8:45 PM

It was truly delicious. Red meat as they say. Knew you would enjoy that! ; )

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 8:43 PM

It was the “bacon” of speeches.

predator on February 9, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Dear Leader: Americans who own AR 15′s are obvious terrorists…send in the drones.

d1carter on February 9, 2013 at 8:45 PM

That’s my biggest concern. “Well, you see, we thought those guys up in the woods were terrorists, what with their AR-15s and all, so they just had to be taken out. I mean, we deemed them as terrorists, just like Ahmed.”–Obama and the DOJ

predator on February 9, 2013 at 8:48 PM

John the Libertarian on February 9, 2013 at 8:37 PM

In English?

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Don’t be silly, we’re Americans, so obviously they would be in Spanish…

SWalker on February 9, 2013 at 8:48 PM

TINA BROWN, NEWSWEEK: I mean, he’d be impeached by now for drones, if he was George W. Bush.

The left stumbles upon the truth. I wonder if it hurts?

predator on February 9, 2013 at 8:51 PM

TINA BROWN, NEWSWEEK: I mean, he’d be impeached by now for drones, if he was George W. Bush.

The left stumbles upon the truth. I wonder if it hurts?

predator on February 9, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Are you kidding? That’s going to hurt so bad that it gives her great great great grandchildren brain damage.

SWalker on February 9, 2013 at 8:52 PM

In a post about the Syrian upheaval, Glenn Reynolds gives advice applicable for us, “In a revolution, if you’re not willing to die or kill for your beliefs you’re basically irrelevant. Tweeting doesn’t count.”

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/161931/

davidk on February 9, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Red Rover
Red Rover
Make Scrumpy
Swoosh Over

SparkPlug on February 9, 2013 at 8:53 PM

The biggest part of this whole drone deal seems to be the lack of trust in the government. For good reason might I add. Yet I do enjoy greasing a Islamist. I am still figuring this one out. I trust our Marines to pull the trigger. I don’t trust the CIA and I sure as heII don’t trust 0. Makes for a tough quandary.

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 8:54 PM

So technically….Preezy Empty Chair could drone that Dumbass Taliban sympathizer who wanted to blow up the bank in Southern California and blame the Rightwingers in order to start a civil war?

workingclass artist on February 9, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Obama Doctrine: Don’t torture them, FRY them. Now.

tommy71 on February 9, 2013 at 8:54 PM

SWalker on February 9, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Evening SWalker. Felling better?

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 8:55 PM

A little waterboarding never killed anyone…

And we may get some useful information..

And…

Iran couldn’t capture waterboarding and steal its secrets..

Oh well.

Electrongod on February 9, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Are you kidding? That’s going to hurt so bad that it gives her great great great grandchildren brain damage.

SWalker on February 9, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Hell, they’ll have brain damage just through genetic dispensation.;)

predator on February 9, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Felling? Lol! Feeling.

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Don’t be silly, we’re Americans, so obviously they would be in Spanish…

SWalker on February 9, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Press 1 for English; Pulse dos por españoles;
اضغط ثلاث لالفارسية

davidk on February 9, 2013 at 8:57 PM

About that rogue cop killer on the loose in Southern California:

I was on the freeway between Riverside and Big Bear the morning that happened. The freeway Amber alert sign flashed a warning to call 911.

There’s only one problem. Well, actually, several problems.

- The sign gave a license # for the vehicle, after it had been reported that the license plate had already been changed.

- The alert failed to give the make of the vehicle.

- The alert gave no description of the shooter. Seems like he has a pretty distinctive appearance.

The alert brought traffic to a stand still, as everyone slowed down to read the sign. The guy could have been stuck right there in traffic, but no one would have recognized him because the information was inacuurate and incomplete.

Now, he’s on the loose and the trail has gone cold.

Your government tax dollars at work.

MichaelGabriel on February 9, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Hiya B and SW, how you both doing? All healed up?

tommy71 on February 9, 2013 at 8:58 PM

SWalker on February 9, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Evening SWalker. Felling better?

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Nope, was to sick to drink any beer, hence my failure to fall over anything… ;p

SWalker on February 9, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Evening tommy71, feeling great! Thanks!

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 9:03 PM

SWalker on February 9, 2013 at 8:59 PM

: ) now, now, plenty of fluids they say.

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 9:04 PM

Obama:They bring a knife to the fight, you take a gun. A drone is a big gun allright. Eventually, it will be used nationally too. The temptation would be too great not to. All who think that its a nothingburger now will eventually change their minds. Thats if the MSM ever revealed it. Its a-comin. More and more executive power demands it.

tommy71 on February 9, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Would it make anyone feel better about this drone thingy if I was the one pulling the trigger. I’m a pretty good shot.

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 9:05 PM

This is disturbing to say the least:

Shocking New Claim: John Brennan Converted To Islam

Feb 9, 2013 3:55 PM | 88 Comments

http://www.therightscoop.com/

Getting ready to read it now.

bluefox on February 9, 2013 at 9:07 PM

tommy71 on February 9, 2013 at 9:05 PM

I think it’s fair to say a drone may get used here at home once. I am fairly confident it wouldn’t happen again.

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 9:07 PM

We MUST Destroy THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA – Personally, Professionally, Emotionally, Mentally!

We must DESTROY them! We must DESTROY the self-esteem of their families – we must get in their heads by ANY MEANS necessary!

williamg on February 9, 2013 at 9:08 PM

http://www.examiner.com/article/disabled-marine-rifles-at-inauguration-signal-shift-administration-policy

davidk on February 9, 2013 at 9:00 PM

Obama grows more paranoid by the day

workingclass artist on February 9, 2013 at 9:08 PM

B, lol, a pie in one hand and a drone in another. Dude, you should have replaced Arnie in that old movie- The Commando. Very, very kewl. ;-)

tommy71 on February 9, 2013 at 9:09 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/smallestminority/Distribute_the_wealth.jpg

Note the source of the worksheet.

davidk on February 9, 2013 at 9:10 PM

bluefox on February 9, 2013 at 9:07 PM

Interesting. Should be able to be proved out rather quickly now that its out there.

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 9:10 PM

I miss W.

Brat on February 9, 2013 at 8:36 PM

.
I miss Ronaldus Magnus, and a population of American citizens whose behavior was “more godly, than not.”

listens2glenn on February 9, 2013 at 9:11 PM

This is disturbing to say the least:

Shocking New Claim: John Brennan Converted To Islam

Feb 9, 2013 3:55 PM | 88 Comments

http://www.therightscoop.com/

Getting ready to read it now.

bluefox on February 9, 2013 at 9:07 PM

Whoa…

workingclass artist on February 9, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Drone-a-palooza and the 3 a.m. no return Benghazi phone call–all in the same week….and where is the MSM? Busy making snow angels in the northeast….

hillsoftx on February 9, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Somehow, I can’t picture Brennan saying Allah hu Akbar. Doesn’t seem right to me. Lets see.

tommy71 on February 9, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Yet I do enjoy greasing a Islamist. I am still figuring this one out. I trust our Marines to pull the trigger. I don’t trust the CIA and I sure as heII don’t trust 0. Makes for a tough quandary.

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 8:54 PM

My take on this, if you know that a certain foreign location is a hive of Al Qaida terrorists gathering, smoking the hive is a perfectly legitimate action in an environment where they at least consider themselves to be at war with us. If there is an American sympathizer in that hive, that is on his own head. If a strike is designed because there is an American sympathizer in that location, that’s a clear problem with the right to due process as much as that sympathizer deserves to become jihad bits.

AZfederalist on February 9, 2013 at 9:14 PM

If there is an American sympathizer in that hive, that is on his own head. If a strike is designed because there is an American sympathizer in that location, that’s a clear problem with the right to due process as much as that sympathizer deserves to become jihad bits.

AZfederalist on February 9, 2013 at 9:14 PM

It is indeed a fine line. One which Obama will have no problem ignoring.

davidk on February 9, 2013 at 9:18 PM

AZfederalist on February 9, 2013 at 9:14 PM

That makes a lot of sense AZ.

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 9:19 PM

listens2glenn on February 9, 2013 at 9:11 PM

Those were the days my friend, we thought they’d never end.

Brat on February 9, 2013 at 9:21 PM

The Brennan story is all over the place. If true, he’s done.

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Good evening all.

KCB on February 9, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Evening KCB!

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Meanwhile, WH aides have told green groups that they’re gonna be very happy with O’s tuesday speech. Climate change legislation, me suspects.

tommy71 on February 9, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Hiya Ken, good to see ya.

tommy71 on February 9, 2013 at 9:26 PM

Good evening all.

KCB on February 9, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Evening, Ken. Kind of quiet thus far. Maybe I shouldn’t have sponsored an open bar last night. People *clank* too much.

predator on February 9, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Meanwhile, WH aides have told green groups that they’re gonna be very happy with O’s tuesday speech. Climate change legislation, me suspects.

tommy71 on February 9, 2013 at 9:25 PM

http://factsnotfantasy.blogspot.com/2013/02/obamas-carbon-dioxide-lies.html

davidk on February 9, 2013 at 9:27 PM

@predator Beer is good for you. Proven. *clink* ;-)

tommy71 on February 9, 2013 at 9:28 PM

My take is that Zero has a very ugly obsession with these drone strikes and views the video kill footage like snuff films. That is very disturbing. I could be wrong, but I think not.

KCB on February 9, 2013 at 9:29 PM

@predator Beer is good for you. Proven. *clink* ;-)

tommy71 on February 9, 2013 at 9:28 PM

That’s right! I remember reading that! *clink, chug*

predator on February 9, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Evening, Ken. Kind of quiet thus far. Maybe I shouldn’t have sponsored an open bar last night. People *clank* too much.

predator on February 9, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Well, I’m a pro, so Im clinking!! *clink!*

KCB on February 9, 2013 at 9:30 PM

I think I need to summon some ladies.

KCB on February 9, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Chrissy!

KCB on February 9, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Barb!

KCB on February 9, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Go ahead, Ken. Stag parties ain’t good for folks our age. ;-)

tommy71 on February 9, 2013 at 9:33 PM

It’s early, but Jackie!

KCB on February 9, 2013 at 9:33 PM

B9! We sure miss you!

KCB on February 9, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Flora (wishful thinking)

KCB on February 9, 2013 at 9:34 PM

RWM!

KCB on February 9, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Clink

Electrongod on February 9, 2013 at 9:34 PM

GG!

KCB on February 9, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Cindy!

KCB on February 9, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Bluegill!

KCB on February 9, 2013 at 9:36 PM

What?

KCB on February 9, 2013 at 9:36 PM

My take is that Zero has a very ugly obsession with these drone strikes and views the video kill footage like snuff films. That is very disturbing. I could be wrong, but I think not.

KCB on February 9, 2013 at 9:29 PM

+1 Moon bean

SparkPlug on February 9, 2013 at 9:36 PM

SparkPlug on February 9, 2013 at 9:36 PM

So I’m not the only one?

KCB on February 9, 2013 at 9:38 PM

We got crazy truthers in France too? A 28 year old woman is being questioned for scribbling AE911 on the star painting, Eugene Delacroix’s Liberty Leading the People at France’s Louvre-Lens museum. Got the crazies everywhere.

tommy71 on February 9, 2013 at 9:38 PM

For many years, I have argued that we need a new national-security court to deal with the unique legal challenges of a war against transnational terrorists. If anything, the need is more urgent now than ever. No matter what the future of counterterrorism is, though, there needs to be congressional buy-in. President Bush could never deliver that: Democrats were too determined to smear for political purposes the strategies they abruptly embraced once they were accountable for the nation’s security. But President Obama could do it — he could deliver plenty of Democrats. Together with the strong Republican support that is guaranteed, we could very quickly have an enduring, constitutionally sound counterterrorism framework. We could craft legislation that provides broad executive discretion but avoids the dangerous excesses of the Justice Department white paper.

All President Obama has to do is lead. All he has to have, in dealing publicly with his anti-war, anti-anti-terrorist base, is the courage of the convictions he and his attorney general manage to summon up for secret white papers.

May hypocrisy make each leftist spontaneously combust, with NO exceptions.

Schadenfreude on February 9, 2013 at 9:38 PM

My take is that Zero has a very ugly obsession with these drone strikes and views the video kill footage like snuff films. That is very disturbing. I could be wrong, but I think not.

KCB on February 9, 2013 at 9:29 PM

“Joe, contact the CIA. I feel like conducting another presidential drive-by.” – Barry

predator on February 9, 2013 at 9:39 PM

So I’m not the only one?

KCB on February 9, 2013 at 9:38 PM

Yep.

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Whoa, KCB, I just noticed…am I the only lady in the company of you fine gentlemen?

Brat on February 9, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Brat on February 9, 2013 at 9:39 PM

( No comment. )

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 9:41 PM

May hypocrisy make each leftist spontaneously combust, with NO exceptions.

Schadenfreude on February 9, 2013 at 9:38 PM

All of them? What am I going to do with all this brand new Stout Hemp Rope then?

SWalker on February 9, 2013 at 9:41 PM

Whoa, KCB, I just noticed…am I the only lady in the company of you fine gentlemen?

Brat on February 9, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Now you’ve gone and done it. *fight! fight!*

predator on February 9, 2013 at 9:42 PM

This guy sits in a small office in the WH and decides who gets droned.

This guy will be the chief of CIA. How the agency has sunk.

Schadenfreude on February 9, 2013 at 9:42 PM

Lol, SW

tommy71 on February 9, 2013 at 9:43 PM

The Brennan story is all over the place. If true, he’s done.

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 9:24 PM

I’ve read all of the comments at RS. So far it appears there is enough evidence. Many don’t think anyone in Congress at the hearings have the courage to ask the question.

They say if he did convert, he can lie because his “religion” allows it. I say B.S.

Now, I intend to watch the video.

bluefox on February 9, 2013 at 9:43 PM

Your taxdollars working very hard…for the muzzies.

Schadenfreude on February 9, 2013 at 9:43 PM

The Brennan story is all over the place. If true, he’s done.

Bmore on February 9, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Which one?

Schadenfreude on February 9, 2013 at 9:44 PM

The Lyin kING stated he wanted to create a civilian army stronger than the US Military!
He has! He didn’t even have to pay us. He just threatened our health care, our livelihood, our fiscal solvency and attempts at every turn to make us slaves to his non working do nothing professional baby makers.
In response we have bought nearly every gun and every box of ammo in stores throughout this country. Coast to coast we have heeded his words and mostly his actions and formed the militia the constitution talks about.
Now he seeks to disarm us, to tell us not just what our kids can eat, how much pop we can drink, what we should drive, what kind and how much healthcare we will receive but also what weapons we should not own to defend ourselves while he reserves to himself the right to determine who should live and who should die!
The good citizens of this formerly great country have formed a militia against the excesses of a runaway government and her Presstitute enablers and surprise, surprise the Lyin kING finds himself on the wrong side of said militia and does not like it. TOUGH!

ConcealedKerry on February 9, 2013 at 9:44 PM

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