Quotes of the day

posted at 10:31 pm on February 7, 2013 by Allahpundit

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney told reporters Thursday that the Obama administration will not be releasing any more information about the controversial use of drones to kill American citizens.

Carney’s remarks, via the White House’s transcript of the off-camera press gaggle:

“This is not an open-ended process. This is a specific and unique accommodation in this circumstance. The fact is, when it comes to public disclosure, we have been — not with the kind of attention that’s been given it this week — but we have been publicly discussing these matters at the highest levels of government for the very reason that I’ve given, which is the President understands that these are core issues about how we conduct ourselves in war, how the President of the United States — any President — balances his constitutional obligation to protect America and American citizens, and his obligation to do so in a manner that is lawful under the Constitution and reflects our values.”

***

President Obama’s white paper justification for carrying out drone strikes against U.S. citizens suspected of terrorism could “swallow the rule” guaranteeing the due process rights of Americans, Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, suggested today…

“You would think that consistent with the principles of due process, the government shouldn’t be able to kill one of its own citizens without some kind of showing that they present an imminent threat,” he continued. “But when you dig a little bit deeper into this white paper . . . they have sort of a loose [definition] of ‘imminent’.”…

The former appellate lawyer also criticized the White House for failing to identify a constitutional principle that would prevent the U.S. military from carrying out a drone strike on a suspected American terrorist in the United States.

***

It may be true that, even when it comes to the first two conditions, the “informed, high-level officials” in the Obama administration—including Brennan, who has been deeply involved in these decisions—have exercised good judgment. But we don’t know this; we have no way of knowing this. And by “we,” I mean not just those of who of us who don’t have the proper security clearances, but also those who do (outside, of course, the very small group that makes the decisions of life or death).

And that’s the point. The white paper acknowledges that there is no entity—in the executive, legislative, or judicial branch—that has the authority to oversee these sorts of decisions. But maybe there should be. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the California Democrat who co-chairs the Intelligence Committee, suggested at Thursday’s hearing that an analog to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court might be created to sign off on these orders, especially if American citizens are the targets. Not a bad idea.

But the logic of the three conditions—or at least the two conditions that aren’t at all restrictive—raises questions not just of legality but of policy. Gen. David Petraeus once said of the Iraq war, “Tell me how this ends.” The same question can be asked of this war. Are there no limits to targeted assassination? Are we going to be doing this as long as terrorist organizations exist? What is the effect? Does it really reduce terrorism and pummel the organization—or are the killed leaders simply replaced by underlings waiting in the wings?

***

Further, in addition to checks and balances, there has to be more transparency. The notion that the government can compile a list of citizens for killing, not tell anyone who’s on it or how they got there, is simply un–American. Surely, a modern version of a WANTED: DEAD OR ALIVE notice could be publicly circulated, with a listing of the particulars. Maybe the named individual would turn himself in rather than wait for the drones to find him. Or maybe he’d hire an attorney to present evidence he’s not actually an imminent threat to American citizens.

For centuries, civilized societies have understood that even wars must be fought according to rules, which have developed over time in response to changing realities. Rules are even more important in endless, murky wars such as the fight against Islamist terror groups. Currently, we’re letting whomever is in the Oval Office pick and choose from among the existing rules, applying and redefining them based on his own judgment and that of his advisors. We can do better.

***

During the hearing, Feinstein forcefully insisted that the CIA’s drone strikes kill only “single digits” of civilians annually, and even ran through a list of accusations against Anwar al-Awlaki, the U.S. citizen and al-Qaida propagandist the U.S. killed in Yemen in 2011, to underscore her belief in the legitimacy of the killing. She suggested that media reports and nongovernmental organization studies claiming larger percentages of civilian deaths from the highly classified program are ignorant. Feinstein emphasized that the CIA has hosted committee staff over 30 times to conduct oversight over the drone program…

Yet Feinstein and several other senators during the hearing said the CIA materially misrepresented to Congress key facts about the quality of information it received from its post-9/11 torture and detentions program. That revelation came from the committee’s recently completed 6,000-page report into those programs. But since the report is still classified, senators couldn’t say outright that the CIA lied to them. Brennan said that the misstatements made by CIA about torture called into question the basis for his public statements years ago that torture extracted valuable information for counterterrorist operations. “I have to determine what the truth is,” Brennan said.

But if the CIA misled Congress about torture, how can the committee be confident it’s not misleading Congress about civilian deaths from drones?

***

Can we learn at least a little from the past? And not the distant past, either. Enough of the detainees at Gitmo were wrongly held so that you’d figure Obama (didn’t he pledge to shut that prison down?) would want to make double-plus sure that he’s targeting the right bastards?…

By making clear that as a journalist he tries to see things first and foremost from the perspective of the powerful, Michael Tomasky helps to clarify why so many in the media are rushing to the president’s defense. They are entranced with power and the view from the top. “Presidents live with that responsibility [of protecting American lives] every day,” he writes. “If that responsibility were mine, I can’t honestly say what I’d do, and I don’t think anyone can.” Not all journalists are awed by power, of course, even on the right (National Review’s Jim Geraghty, for instance, asserts that this sort of thing of extra-judicial killing policy wouldn’t be cricket even under a GOP president).

This isn’t ultimately about ideological hypocrisy – of liberals changing their tune once their guy is in office – but something much more basic and much more disturbing. It reveals that for all their crowing about being watchdogs of all that is good and decent in society, when push comes to shove, too many journalists are ready and willing handmaidens to power – including the power to kill.

***

The white paper has ignited not quite a firestorm (again, this isn’t the Bush administration), but at least a smoldering ember of brow-furrowed consternation among the president’s supporters and journalistic sympathizers who find the document “chilling.”

They rarely say what their alternative would be. Does a U.S. citizen get an exemption from targeting if he joins Al Qaeda at a high level? Should his status be litigated before he can be targeted, and if so, by whom and for how long and on the basis of what evidence? Can he show up in the court room to confront his accusers, a basic element of the Anglo-American system? Should al-Awlaki have gotten a court-appointed lawyer (assuming Gloria Allred wasn’t available) and access to all the intelligence about him so he could properly contest it? Maybe over Skype from somewhere in the badlands of Yemen?…

It’s not for nothing that the author of the white paper sounds like he could have worked for Dick Cheney. The Obama administration’s approach reflects the logic of the laws of war, the structure of American government and the exigencies of the fight against Al Qaeda.

***

By including terrorists among those afforded constitutional protections, the president’s policy risks stretching those protections a mile wide and an inch deep—weakening them for all Americans.

Then there’s the question of whether Mr. Obama’s approach really uses “our values as a compass.” After he took office, the president made a great show of ending enhanced interrogation, which CIA directors say produced much of the intelligence used to locate al Qaeda leaders including Osama bin Laden. The Bush administration had subjected about 100 al Qaeda detainees to some tough methods, including three to waterboarding.

Rather than capture terrorists—which produces the most valuable intelligence on al Qaeda—Mr. Obama has relied almost exclusively on drone attacks, and he has thereby been able to dodge difficult questions over detention. But those deaths from the sky violate personal liberty far more than the waterboarding of three al Qaeda leaders ever did.

***

Our president has the authority to quell insurrections by force. American-born terrorists engage in insurrection. Case closed.

Consider the late Anwar al-Awlaki. Lefties argue he didn’t pose a sufficient threat to merit killing. Really? Here’s a traitor who joined our most virulent enemies and used his knowledge of our country to encourage, plan and facilitate attacks. His guilt was greater than that of some poor sap who strapped on a suicide bomb — just as crime bosses bear a heavier guilt than their trigger-men.

And if a foreign power can’t or won’t control its own territory, we have a legal right to intervene under the accepted conventions of warfare…

This is not a difficult issue: When Americans turn violently against the United States, they lose the benefits of citizenship

[T]he drone program’s the only Obama-era policy that works.

***

“I want everybody that said what they said about George W. Bush…I want those people to apologize to George W. Bush.”

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Distrust!

KCB on May 21, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Monday’s revelation amounts to the fifth iteration of the Obama administration’s account of events, after initially saying that the White House had first learned of the controversy from the press…

They’re going to keep revising their talking points until they get it right.

RickB on May 21, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Do I need to say if this were a Republican President?

sandee on May 21, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Ninth!

ManWithNoParty on May 21, 2013 at 10:45 PM

I have a hateful question. Are the kids from the elementary school in OK going to be trotted out to the White House and sporting events? If so, what will be the “cause” global warming or ending sequestration?

Cindy Munford on May 21, 2013 at 10:47 PM

The president’s greatest asset is his credibility.

LOL… We are talking about a man who lies in every sentence he speaks… The man cannot speak the truth no matter how simple it is…

mnjg on May 21, 2013 at 10:50 PM

“I think in order for government to gain its trust back, someone needs to be fired, someone needs to be held responsible, and, if it’s criminal, someone needs to go to jail.”

But it should be the right person..
Not some some unknown video producer…

Hmmmm?

Electrongod on May 21, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Can we call it a “scandal plagued” administration, now?

JimK on May 21, 2013 at 10:52 PM

The media’s vacation from their ” repressed tolerance” of these ruling class scumbag Democrites will be over shortly.

Enjoy the feigned Media outrage whilst it lasts.

FlaMurph on May 21, 2013 at 10:53 PM

It was sickening. But it was and is Chicago.

The folks voted for the Chicago Way, twice.

Bruno Strozek on May 21, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Is anyone else completely unimpressed with all the caterwauling by lefty media pundits over how shocked they are that the Obama Administration is so disengenuous and heavy handed?

Curtiss on May 21, 2013 at 10:54 PM

You know it’s an info overload day at Hot Air when you only have 9 comments 15 minutes after posting QOTD.

What a day!

can_con on May 21, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Monday’s revelation amounts to the fifth iteration of the Obama administration’s account of events, after initially saying that the White House had first learned of the controversy from the press…

Barky’s retarded junta does this all the time. Leftists, the MSM, and the Vichy Republicans (but I repeat myself) don’t care. They are just dazzled by his skin and the thought of bringing everything crashing down – “to teach those Americans a lesson”.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 21, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Benghazigate 911. Obama lied Oprah cried hillary tried and people died

SparkPlug on May 21, 2013 at 10:56 PM

The LightBringer has brought a Political Plague
to all he touchs,

he has broughtus/wroughtus DarkNess!!!!!

canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 10:57 PM

You know it’s an info overload day at Hot Air when you only have 9 comments 15 minutes after posting QOTD.

What a day!

can_con on May 21, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Personally, trying to make up for previous noisiness with quietness. :) Also, real life is much more compelling at the moment.

Ur right though.

Axe on May 21, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Benghazigate 911. Obama lied Oprah cried hillary tried and people died

SparkPlug on May 21, 2013 at 10:56 PM

SparkPlug:The NeverEnding Story:)

canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 11:00 PM

canopfor

You might want to add this to your Benghazi files:

Benghazi Exclusive: State Department Denies Libya Weapons Buyback program Exists

luckybogey on May 21, 2013 at 11:00 PM

It just occurred to me that before this thing is over with, Rachel Maddow is going to cry.

It’s the little things in life.

Curtiss on May 21, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Well, Obama won’t be impeached or go to prison and he’s a relatively young man. I’ll settle for having him be a total lame duck for the next three years, step down in 2016 with no authority or credibility and a well publicised legacy of spending eight years trying to destroy this country.

a capella on May 21, 2013 at 11:01 PM

ABC News- 30 minutes of tornado. News blackout.

Chess peices are moving. Shoes are dropping.

wolly4321 on May 21, 2013 at 11:01 PM

You know it’s an info overload day at Hot Air when you only have 9 comments 15 minutes after posting QOTD.

What a day!

can_con on May 21, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Trolls are still trying to get their talking points straight.

nobar on May 21, 2013 at 11:01 PM

You know it’s an info overload day at Hot Air when you only have 9 comments 15 minutes after posting QOTD.

What a day!

can_con on May 21, 2013 at 10:55 PM

can_con:True Dat:)

canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Axe on May 21, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Cheers to real life!

can_con on May 21, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Maybe things would be different if there were real negative consequences for transgressions instead of promotions and ever more money. The apathy and the stupid are thick enough to cut with a knife.

Scotsman on May 21, 2013 at 11:02 PM

The LightBringer has brought a Political Plague
to all he touchs,

he has broughtus/wroughtus DarkNess!!!!!

canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 10:57 PM

U just wax poetic? :)

You’re light-bringer has brought us, wrought us, darkness. Away from me, Brutus. I’ll nothing more of you till your darkness called light is your light called darkness, call them what you will.

Axe on May 21, 2013 at 11:03 PM

a capella on May 21, 2013 at 11:01 PM

I will settle for shoes thrown and spit heading his direction come 2016.

Electrongod on May 21, 2013 at 11:03 PM

A lot of good points made today about how complicit the media has been with the Petreus railroading, F&F whistleblower railroading, etc…but now they are up in arms because it’s happening to them. What did they think would happen? I think that all of these Lib elitists think that they are on the “inside” and that O’s tyrannical ways are something that happens to just other people.

Kirstin Powers nailed it pretty well in her column. Granted she thinks that Government is the answer to everything and is a liberal line-tower, but she calls out BS when she see it…I guess.

Jackalope on May 21, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Obama stole the election by silencing opposition.

John the Libertarian on May 21, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Hillary tried denied

SparkPlug on May 21, 2013 at 11:05 PM

John the Libertarian on May 21, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Its a thought crime to be against Obama.

SparkPlug on May 21, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Cheers to real life!

can_con on May 21, 2013 at 11:02 PM

*clink* :)

Metaphorical clink. It’s really a home-made roll. But, for the life of me, I’m not sure how to get the idea of waving a home-made roll into a pair of asterisks such that the idea of the salute is preserved.

Axe on May 21, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Good thing Benghazi is such a laughable joke to lighten things up around here.

John the Libertarian on May 21, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Obama stole the election by silencing opposition.

John the Libertarian on May 21, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Yes, he did. And, he won’t ever be punished for it.

a capella on May 21, 2013 at 11:07 PM

“Unfortunately you’ve grown up hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity that’s at the root of all of our problems. Some of these same voices do their best to gum up the works. They’ll warn that tyranny is always lurking just around the corner. You should reject these voices.”

Bahahahahahahahahahahah
Baaahahahahahahahahah

hahahahahahahaha

Electrongod on May 21, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Obama stole the election by silencing opposition.

John the Libertarian on May 21, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Mittens silenced himself and the rest of the GOP leadership was busy stabbing conservatives in the back every single day. Optimal circumstances for the Ineligible Indonesian Dog-Eating America-Hating Imbecile. And now the GOP leadership is busy trying to make sure that their long-sought after political suicide is finally complete with their treasonous dance with illegals and the way they tried to collapse so badly on gun control. Heck, I’m still waiting for indictments from criminal acts that Barky and his junta engaged in YEARS AGO, let alone the constant flurry of new ones that we’ve been treated on a regular monthly basis.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 21, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Personally, trying to make up for previous noisiness with quietness. :) Also, real life is much more compelling at the moment.

Ur right though.

Axe on May 21, 2013 at 10:58 PM

This isn’t real??????

KCB on May 21, 2013 at 11:10 PM

canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 10:57 PM

runnin on empty

jrsrigmvr on May 21, 2013 at 11:10 PM

“All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” ~ T.E. Lawrence

thatsafactjack on May 21, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Obama stole the election by silencing opposition.

John the Libertarian on May 21, 2013 at 11:04 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 21, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Romney didn’t have a clue what he was up against.

Curtiss on May 21, 2013 at 11:12 PM

This isn’t real??????

KCB on May 21, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Axe on May 21, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Metaphorical clink. It’s really a home-made roll. But, for the life of me, I’m not sure how to get the idea of waving a home-made roll into a pair of asterisks such that the idea of the salute is preserved.

Axe on May 21, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Let me assist.

*Toast*

thatsafactjack on May 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

I’m suprised you guys haven’t accused Obama of controlling the weather yet. It does seem like when ever he’s going thru a little turmoil there comes along some type of weather related event that grabs the countrys attention.

Politricks on May 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Axe on May 21, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Nicely done! Did I see Jackie?

KCB on May 21, 2013 at 11:14 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 21, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Romney didn’t have a clue what he was up against.

Curtiss on May 21, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Imagine if 500 grass-roots organizations were allowed to raise money and knock on doors to get out the vote.

John the Libertarian on May 21, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Why do Republicans act like thy would be appeased by chopping off some heads at the IRS when the real problem is the tyranny of any government as big as ours?

Valiant on May 21, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Politricks on May 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

We’re not the ones who called him “The One” and “The Messiah”. You’re thinking of the LEFT.

thatsafactjack on May 21, 2013 at 11:15 PM

thatsafactjack on May 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Everyone was worried about you. Did you check in earlier?

nobar on May 21, 2013 at 11:16 PM

“All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” ~ T.E. Lawrence

thatsafactjack on May 21, 2013 at 11:12 PM

I keep trying to explain to womens that I am very dangerous, and therefore sexy, for similar reasons. :) Doesn’t work. Prolly shouldn’t use baby talk when I say it.

:) e’en. — (Now take your quote where you wanted.)

*Toast*

thatsafactjack on May 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

ROTF –brilliant!

Axe on May 21, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Granted she thinks that Government is the answer to everything and is a liberal line-tower, but she calls out BS when she see it…I guess.

Jackalope on May 21, 2013 at 11:04 PM

She’s pretty honest and courageous in her opinions. I don’t agree with most of her political philosophy but I respect her willingness to engage her own side when she thinks they are wrong. I’ve also noticed a little softening on her pro-choice/prolife position. I think the Gosnell infantcides forced her to confront the origin of life issues again and she’s wavering. She seems to be intellectually honest with herself on most issues, which I like, and she’s not a bombthrower. She’s a thousand times smarter than Hannity.

a capella on May 21, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Why do Republicans act like thy would be appeased by chopping off some heads at the IRS when the real problem is the tyranny of any government as big as ours?

Valiant on May 21, 2013 at 11:15 PM

You have a valid point. Given the size of our government and the deep reach due to the 16′th amendment, there is no way to prevent abuse; elimination of the power to tax individuals would be a good answer. Right now though, I’ll look at having those heads as a good start.

AZfederalist on May 21, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Imagine if 500 grass-roots organizations were allowed to raise money and knock on doors to get out the vote.

John the Libertarian on May 21, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Clearly, this thought occurred to someone in the White House.

Curtiss on May 21, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Romney didn’t have a clue what he was up against.

Curtiss on May 21, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Why not? Most of the commenters, here, knew Barky and how he operates quite well and none of us has been running for the Presidency for 47 years, already.

Mittens just wanted to win the primary and then didn’t gie a sh!t what happened. He sucked. And many of us (who knew Barky better than Mittens did) didn’t want Mittens anywhere near the candidacy, to begin with. He was the worst person to run. THE WORST. The last election we had the representatives of illegals and aliens the world round run (not to mention tons of other fatal problems McShame had). This one we had the author of state-level health insurance mandates (who was too stupid and obstinate to ever even say that he was mistaken, not to mention his constant need to make sure he included “and replace” in with every call to repeal BarkyCare – though even those calls petered out pretty quickly) to run when the biggest issue of 2010 and the 2012 election was getting rid of BarkyCare and the whole national socialist junk.

Mittens has no excuses. He never should have been in the primary. If he had any (political) decency he would not have even tried to run. He sucked and he knew that he sucked.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 21, 2013 at 11:18 PM

it does seem like when ever he’s going thru a little turmoil…..

Politricks on May 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

You mean bumps in the road…

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canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 11:19 PM

nobar on May 21, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Last evening. I was busy yesterday trying to organize some relief for the victims.

thatsafactjack on May 21, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Politricks on May 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

He’ll use said same weather to promote his green cronyism or more taxes. In the infamous words of Rahm Emanuel “Never let a serious crisis go to waste.”

Cindy Munford on May 21, 2013 at 11:19 PM

I’m suprised you guys haven’t accused Obama of controlling the weather yet. It does seem like when ever he’s going thru a little turmoil there comes along some type of weather related event that grabs the countrys attention.

Politricks on May 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Cheney has the weather machine.

RickB on May 21, 2013 at 11:19 PM

So long as Rubio, Hatch, McConnell, the Chamber of Commerce, and the WSJ secure the lightbringer’s second-term legacy, what’s a little scandal?

kunegetikos on May 21, 2013 at 11:20 PM

It was sickening. But it was and is Chicago.

The folks voted for the Chicago Way, twice.

Bruno Strozek on May 21, 2013 at 10:53 PM

With respect…

… I don’t think Obowma voters would know the ‘Chicago Way’ if it were sitting on their faces.

Seven Percent Solution on May 21, 2013 at 11:20 PM

I’m suprised you guys haven’t accused Obama of controlling the weather yet. It does seem like when ever he’s going thru a little turmoil there comes along some type of weather related event that grabs the countrys attention.

Politricks on May 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Like when Barky announced that 10,000 people were killed in a Kansas tornado that actually killed 12?

Yeah … you guys picked a real winner. On the bright side, Barky’s only about 16 points shy of a 3 digit IQ, so I guess that’s something …

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 21, 2013 at 11:21 PM

Cheney has the weather machine.

RickB on May 21, 2013 at 11:19 PM

I’m not sure about this. Obama stopped the oceans from rising.

Axe on May 21, 2013 at 11:21 PM

canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 10:57 PM
runnin on empty

jrsrigmvr on May 21, 2013 at 11:10 PM

jrsrigmvr:Good one:)

canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 11:23 PM

The State Run Media looked the other way as Dear Leader stole the Presidency. Now, they are frightened by what they know he is capable of doing to them.

d1carter on May 21, 2013 at 11:23 PM

Cheney has the weather machine.

RickB on May 21, 2013 at 11:19 PM

I know, I thought everyone knew that!

KCB on May 21, 2013 at 11:23 PM

I’m suprised you guys haven’t accused Obama of controlling the weather yet. It does seem like when ever he’s going thru a little turmoil there comes along some type of weather related event that grabs the countrys attention.

Politricks on May 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Oh look the average democrat voter with an IQ of 40 spoke up.

Holy Fk you are a moron.

tom daschle concerned on May 21, 2013 at 11:23 PM

jrsrigmvr:Good one:)

canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 11:23 PM

Agreed. :)

Axe on May 21, 2013 at 11:24 PM

I’m suprised you guys haven’t accused Obama of controlling the weather yet. It does seem like when ever he’s going thru a little turmoil there comes along some type of weather related event that grabs the countrys attention.

Politricks on May 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

“this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal …”~~Barack Obama upon winning the Democratic nomination for presidency

can_con on May 21, 2013 at 11:24 PM

Crying – Orbison

thatsafactjack on May 21, 2013 at 11:24 PM

Monday’s revelation amounts to the fifth iteration of the Obama administration’s account of events, after initially saying that the White House had first learned of the controversy from the press…


So
… there is at least another week’s worth of revisions still to done by … the CIA!!!

It’s still up in the air on whether the MSM realizes it can publicly destroy the SCOAMF immediately …

… or give the thugs time to regroup and wind up with a boot on their necks.

PolAgnostic on May 21, 2013 at 11:24 PM

I’m not sure about this. Obama stopped the oceans from rising.

Axe on May 21, 2013 at 11:21 PM

Yeah … but he did that by pouring millions of barrels of oil into the gulf – just like the other hussein, incidentally :)

I wonder how many people even remember how Barky made the feral government obstruct and stop any mitigation or containment efforts by any of the states or localities during that spill – which made it as bad as it could have possibly been made. That fvcker should ahve been impeached for that – and then arrested and prosecuted for extorting $20 billion from BP in the Oval Friggin Office. But … the leftists all cheered the strong-arm tactics of the retarded Sukarno clone. And the Vichy Republicans said … nothing – but they did force one guy to apologize to the extorter-in-chief.

Good times …

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 21, 2013 at 11:25 PM

Did HA cover any of the IRS protests around the country today..? I must of missed it.

d1carter on May 21, 2013 at 11:25 PM

I’m suprised you guys haven’t accused Obama of controlling the weather yet. It does seem like when ever he’s going thru a little turmoil there comes along some type of weather related event that grabs the countrys attention.

Politricks on May 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Politricks:

Correction,its Mother Earth/Mother Nature who has been
on a Murderus Spree,

however,

the DemoRats/ProgTards do have a Alter of Sacrifice
in the Church of Socialism,that is influencing the weather!!
(sarc)

canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 11:27 PM

Speaking of controlling the weather, just prop up a huge poster of moochies face in the path of the next tornado. It would stop it cold.

GhoulAid on May 21, 2013 at 11:27 PM

I’m suprised you guys haven’t accused Obama of controlling the weather yet. It does seem like when ever he’s going thru a little turmoil there comes along some type of weather related event that grabs the countrys attention.

Politricks on May 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

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You’re the only one who noticed that.

The rest of us aren’t stupid enough to arrive at such conclusions.

But I’ll bet a large number of New Orleans residents still believe G.W.Bush created Hurricane Katrina.

listens2glenn on May 21, 2013 at 11:28 PM

Maybe so, but everyone knows Rove controlled the hurricane machine that took out New Orleans.

John the Libertarian on May 21, 2013 at 11:29 PM

Oh Obama is the Devil all right. He tempted the gullible with a Golden Handout Apple.

viking01 on May 21, 2013 at 11:30 PM

Being from Oklahoma, I’m not appreciative of the LEFT’S focus on the tragedy that’s befallen our community. The fact that the LEFT is treating it like DISASTER PORN…and trying to use it to make political capital… and for little leftists gags to appeal to thier pals on twitter and other social media… leaves me disgusted. It’s low… even for them.

thatsafactjack on May 21, 2013 at 11:31 PM

All this misinformation isn’t going to distract me from the chem trails . . . so, you know, good try.

//sweet computer love & lurk mode

Axe on May 21, 2013 at 11:31 PM

I’m suprised you guys haven’t accused Obama of controlling the weather yet. It does seem like when ever he’s going thru a little turmoil there comes along some type of weather related event that grabs the countrys attention.

Politricks on May 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Don’t think it can’t be done.

Beijing Weather Modification Office

China’s state news agency, Xinhua, says government rainmakers flew 3,000 cloud seeding flights from 2000 to 2005 and triggered rainfalls that dumped 275 billion cubic yards. That’s enough rain to fill the country’s second-largest river, the Yellow River, four times over.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-06-29-china-rain_x.htm

can_con on May 21, 2013 at 11:33 PM

Did HA cover any of the IRS protests around the country today..? I must of missed it.

d1carter on May 21, 2013 at 11:25 PM

Ed didn’t want the DOJ rooting through his garbage and hiding under his bed.

John the Libertarian on May 21, 2013 at 11:34 PM

I’m suprised you guys haven’t accused Obama of controlling the weather yet.

Politricks on May 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Wow. I can’t believe the racism dripping from this comment.

Barack Obama himself said in 2008 that his nomination by the Democrats heralded the end of global warming. For you to suggest that Obama cannot control the weather reveals you as a cross-burning member of the Klan.

malclave on May 21, 2013 at 11:34 PM

Maybe so, but everyone knows Rove controlled the hurricane machine that took out New Orleans.

John the Libertarian on May 21, 2013 at 11:29 PM

After the election of 2008, Joke Biden spent hours searching the White House basement and attic for that machine. The others were in the Oval Office killing themselves laughing.

slickwillie2001 on May 21, 2013 at 11:36 PM

I wonder if Lois Lerner and Valerie Jarrett know each other…?

d1carter on May 21, 2013 at 11:36 PM

Oh Obama is the Devil all right. He tempted the gullible with a Golden Handout Apple.

viking01 on May 21, 201

sympathy for the devil- stones

Fred

jrsrigmvr on May 21, 2013 at 11:37 PM

Who do you think Valerie Jarrett is having an affair with?

williamg on May 21, 2013 at 11:38 PM

I’m suprised you guys haven’t accused Obama of controlling the weather yet. It does seem like when ever he’s going thru a little turmoil there comes along some type of weather related event that grabs the countrys attention.

Politricks on May 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Well when he can slow the rise of the oceans and heal the planet,why can’t he unleash a few tornadoes ?

burrata on May 21, 2013 at 11:38 PM

“disaster porn” for the left to blockade?
Media blackout?

Yep.

Glad you are okay.

wolly4321 on May 21, 2013 at 11:38 PM

Actually – I have nothing to say…….this is all getting depressing…….

williamg on May 21, 2013 at 11:38 PM

Barack Obama is the son of a thousand fathers – all bastards like him.

VorDaj on May 21, 2013 at 11:40 PM

Who do you think Valerie Jarrett is having an affair with?

williamg on May 21, 2013 at 11:38 PM

My guess is that she knows who everyone else is having an affair with.

Curtiss on May 21, 2013 at 11:41 PM

William Welch II, Obama Administration’s Point Man to Stop Leaks, Helped Dems Win Crucial Senate Seat By Bungling Ted Stevens Prosecution

washingtonian.com/blogs/capitalcomment/power-players/william-welch-obama-administrations-point-man-to-stop-leaks.php

Lois Lerner shares defence lawyer with William Welch II
zuckerman.com/william_taylor <— clients list
politico.com/story/2013/05/lois-lerner-could-plead-the-fifth-rep-cummings-says-91686.html

ninjapirate on May 21, 2013 at 11:43 PM

The president’s greatest asset is his credibility.

I did not have taxual relations with those people–t-baggerz
:O

burrata on May 21, 2013 at 11:43 PM

I don’t think Obowma voters would know the ‘Chicago Way’ if it were sitting stomping on their faces.

Seven Percent Solution on May 21, 2013 at 11:20 PM

Fixed.

If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face–for ever.
- Comrade Obama of the Inner Party to Winston Smith, out-of-favor journalist

malclave on May 21, 2013 at 11:44 PM

I’m suprised you guys haven’t accused Obama of controlling the weather yet. It does seem like when ever he’s going thru a little turmoil there comes along some type of weather related event that grabs the countrys attention.

Politricks on May 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

I’m surprised you haven’t drown in your own stupidity yet. You must have gills.

VorDaj on May 21, 2013 at 11:45 PM

Who do you think Valerie Jarrett is having an affair with?

williamg on May 21, 2013 at 11:38 PM

Hillary?

viking01 on May 21, 2013 at 11:45 PM

canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 10:57 PM
U just wax poetic? :)

You’re light-bringer has brought us, wrought us, darkness. Away from me, Brutus. I’ll nothing more of you till your darkness called light is your light called darkness, call them what you will.

Axe on May 21, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Axe:Lol,um Shakespeare,hehe!:)

canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 11:45 PM

Who do you think Valerie Jarrett is having an affair with?

williamg on May 21, 2013 at 11:38 PM

Kagan? Sotomayor? and an occasional change of pace with Benedict Roberts?

viking01 on May 21, 2013 at 11:46 PM

Why do Republicans act like thy would be appeased by chopping off some heads at the IRS when the real problem is the tyranny of any government as big as ours?

Valiant on May 21, 2013 at 11:15 PM

There are a Elitists in BOTH Parties……..

Such as Jeff Flake……

williamg on May 21, 2013 at 11:46 PM

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