Loathsome nanny-state mayor now considering banning styrofoam

posted at 7:11 pm on February 7, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

New York City Mayor Bloomberg’s ban on extra-large sized sodas will not come into full effect until next month, but in the meantime, he’s got his eyes on his next crusade for forcibly manipulating New Yorkers’ behavior: A ban on styrofoam. The NY Post reports:

The Bloomberg administration is considering banning Styrofoam cups and containers — popular at thousands of delis and food carts across the city— as it prepares to roll out a major recycling announcement in the coming weeks, a Sanitation Department official said yesterday. …

Mayor Bloomberg last year set a goal of recycling 30 percent of the city’s household trash by 2017, up from 15 percent now. …

But opponents — many of them restaurant and cart owners — have blasted the measure as unnecessarily intrusive. …

While the Styrofoam proposal is gaining momentum at City Hall, officials said the upcoming report on recycling recommendations might omit the measure.

Environmentalists have hated styrofoam since what feels like time immemorial, and other eco-trendy cities like Seattle already have their own styrofoam bans in place — and if the city of New York really thinks that doing so would be beneficial for them as part of their recycling quota, fine, I suppose. I’d just hope that such a quota would be a result of a careful cost vs. benefit analysis of the consequences, costs, and alternatives rather than merely Bloomberg’s desire to make up new rules that he perceives are somehow more noble than New Yorkers’ self-institutionalized way of doing things (private individuals operating out of their own self-interest kind of have a knack for figuring out a way to accomplish things cheaply and efficiently, ya’ know?).

Recycling is reliably pursued as a worthwhile goal in and of itself, whereas too often its actually just a relic of the 198os during which landfill capacity was the hip eco-crisis du jour. Recycling is a manufacturing process that consumes resources, and in plenty of cases, those resources are more valuable than the ones they are purportedly trying to cut down on. While it is certainly true that recycling technology has also improved over the years and indeed made recycling certain materials more cost-effective than trashing them in various instances, these types of recycling quotas have a habit of being arbitrary feel-good mandates rather than well-thought-out, environmentally sound practices.


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Why don’t you just ban oxygen, Bloomy? Would solve so many problems.

chewmeister on February 7, 2013 at 7:14 PM

When is someone going to say ‘No!’…?

Seven Percent Solution on February 7, 2013 at 7:16 PM

Ban deoderant. I did and people leave me alone now.

Rusty Allen on February 7, 2013 at 7:17 PM

hey mikey; it’s getting ready to snow up there….. is it gonna be like it was last time????

He can ban styrofoam and soda cups, but he can’t plow a damn street.
/skillz

ted c on February 7, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Doesn’t NYC have a legal mechanism to remove an insane person from the office of Mayor?

rjh on February 7, 2013 at 7:19 PM

I hope that this ends in a giant snowapocalypse……Mikey bloomberg gets stuck somewhere for daaays on end. He is ravenously hungry and dehydrated and the only thing to drink for miles around is a 64 oz Coke and a pack of salty fries…..

g’head mike, turn it down……

ted c on February 7, 2013 at 7:20 PM

Off topic, but:

Why is Hot Air trying to force redirect my browser to Facebook. I do not have any permissions set for it to do so. This has just started to happen and does not happen on any other websites. Is something wrong with your Facebook link?

njrob on February 7, 2013 at 7:21 PM

They will also ban:

paper cups (deforestation)
plastic cups (pollution)
glass cups (dangerous material if broken)
tin cups (health hazard)

As with grocery store bags, all persons will be required to bring their own aluminum drink cup with them. Since those might be any size, vendors will be required to install city-inspected metering devices on their liquid dispensers. Since some beverages can be hot, a potential burning hazard, said cups will have to be inspected and licensed by the city to ensure they meet insulation requirements.

peski on February 7, 2013 at 7:22 PM

Ban nannystaters.

rbj on February 7, 2013 at 7:23 PM

He knows what is best for New Yorkers and should be made Mayor for Life.

CorporatePiggy on February 7, 2013 at 7:26 PM

George Carlin – The Planet Is Fine

Christien on February 7, 2013 at 7:27 PM

This guy is a serious control freak, and I have to wonder if he gets off issuing edicts like this. Well, so much for people buying a hot lunch and having it still warm on a cold day when they return to the office.

Liam on February 7, 2013 at 7:29 PM

They will also ban:

paper cups (deforestation)
plastic cups (pollution)
glass cups (dangerous material if broken)
tin cups (health hazard)

peski on February 7, 2013 at 7:22 PM

All person’s will now be required to replace anything bowl shaped with their own cupped hands, in cases of large bowls… both hands may be cupped together – a chart explaining the different acceptable hand formations in replacement of food-ware will be issued to all eating establishments, taxi cabs, subways, etc.

Eating utensils will also be replaced by a “pinching” formation, in most cases with both the thumb and index finger. In cases where both a bowl and eating utensil is required it is suggest that the help of another person’s hands be utilized – this, as Bloomberg believes, will help increase teamwork and friendliness between strangers in the five-borough area and be one step even closer to saving the planet, not to mention create a golden age for sandwich shops such as Subway (which he expects will be the first to endorse his new plan… not that he actually cares whether anyone endorses it because it’s going through whether you children know what’s good for you or not).

Ukiah on February 7, 2013 at 7:32 PM

…ban all people in New York under 5 foot six inches (168 cm)!

KOOLAID2 on February 7, 2013 at 7:33 PM

Next, he will ban anyone taller than him from entering the city. This is getting ridiculous, New York!

Christien on February 7, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Bloomy is gots that crazy eye stare,in da picture!

Btw,is this to save the Whales/Dolphins in New York Harbour!!

canopfor on February 7, 2013 at 7:36 PM

New York City=to damned stupid to ban Nanny Bloomingidiot…

SWalker on February 7, 2013 at 7:37 PM

…ban all people in New York under 5 foot six inches (168 cm)!

KOOLAID2 on February 7, 2013 at 7:33 PM

KOOLAID2:Hmmmmm..,is Bloomy over/under that height requirement?!:)

canopfor on February 7, 2013 at 7:38 PM

I knew I’d seen that little troll somewhere before:

Shallow cuts. Shallow cuts.

Browncoatone on February 7, 2013 at 7:39 PM

Yes, loathsome. Loathsome is the right word for him and his ilk.

petefrt on February 7, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Holier than tho Do-Gooders!

canopfor on February 7, 2013 at 7:41 PM

Ug! Looks like I screwed up the link:

Shallow cuts. Shallow cuts.

Browncoatone on February 7, 2013 at 7:42 PM

My views on marijuana legalization are evolving, says … Ken Cuccinelli Mayor Michael Bloomberg!

…oh oh!…wrong thread!

KOOLAID2 on February 7, 2013 at 7:44 PM

Why don’t you just ban oxygen, Bloomy? Would solve so many problems.

chewmeister on February 7, 2013 at 7:14 PM

To be fair, we need oxygen. But we don’t need the funky smells that make their way Eastward to Manhattan.

Ban New Jersey.

Doesn’t NYC have a legal mechanism to remove an insane person from the office of Mayor?

rjh on February 7, 2013 at 7:19 PM

That’s called running for Senate.

JetBoy on February 7, 2013 at 7:48 PM

…ban all people in New York under 5 foot six inches (168 cm)!
KOOLAID2:Hmmmmm..,is Bloomy over/under that height requirement?!:)

canopfor on February 7, 2013 at 7:38 PM

…I think that must be Bloomies TOTAL length…I think Bloomy has a height of 160 centimeters…and the other 8 centimeters is hard to find!

KOOLAID2 on February 7, 2013 at 7:53 PM

If only I could write what I really wanted and incorporate the other big news of the day without getting banned…

Of course, I don’t mean it…literally.

“Nothing so needs reforming as other people’s habits. Fanatics will never learn that, though it be written in letters of gold across the sky: It is the prohibition that makes anything precious.”

- Mark Twain

“Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

- C S Lewis

“Very little good has ever been done by the absolute shall.”

- Anonymous American clergyman, 19th century

DicKtators and moralisers make my blood boil.

Resist We Much on February 7, 2013 at 7:53 PM

What if a person used an AR-15 to shoot holes in a 32oz soda cup made of styrofoam filled with heavily salted transfat potato chips?

kurtzz3 on February 7, 2013 at 8:01 PM

Styrofoam doesn’t degrade…(well, over 1000s of years) so it is SAFE.

Mix it with a little acetone and you’ve a waterproofing substance.

It also forms road beds. You can create it in all sorts of densities and strengths.

Styrofoam is a great product.

ProfShadow on February 7, 2013 at 8:01 PM

Bloomy – please Google the word “overreach”. Better yet I’ll do it for ya.

overreach [ˌəʊvəˈriːtʃ]
vb
1. (tr) to defeat or thwart (oneself) by attempting to do or gain too much
2. (tr) to aim for but miss by going too far or attempting too much
3. to get the better of (a person) by trickery
4. (tr) to reach or extend beyond or over
5. (intr) to reach or go too far
6. (Individual Sports & Recreations / Horse Training, Riding & Manège) (intr) (of a horse) to strike the back of a forefoot with the edge of the opposite hind foot
Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003

VengeanceIsMine on February 7, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Bet he won’t come for any athletic cups.

Mr. Curly on February 7, 2013 at 8:10 PM

What if a person used an AR-15 to shoot holes in a 32oz soda cup made of styrofoam filled with heavily salted transfat potato chips?

kurtzz3 on February 7, 2013 at 8:01 PM

Then, New York will reinstate the death penalty…

Resist We Much on February 7, 2013 at 8:17 PM

Off topic, but:

Why is Hot Air trying to force redirect my browser to Facebook. I do not have any permissions set for it to do so. This has just started to happen and does not happen on any other websites. Is something wrong with your Facebook link?

njrob on February 7, 2013 at 7:21 PM

I have never had that problem. Maybe you have some malware or something.

BTW the 49ers are still the losers of the SB.

CW on February 7, 2013 at 8:25 PM

Next Fat Mike will be telling everyone how many squares of toilet paper to use daily.

GarandFan on February 7, 2013 at 8:27 PM

NYC fears their gay Mayor

jake-the-goose on February 7, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Ah, this is great. They gave him a third term, now they have to live with him.

Cleombrotus on February 7, 2013 at 9:04 PM

Doesn’t NYC have a legal mechanism to remove an insane person from the office of Mayor?

rjh on February 7, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Because the New Yorkers are insane. Mayor Bloomberg just reflects the social barometer represented in New York city. I don’t think Rudy could win again.

b1jetmech on February 7, 2013 at 9:08 PM

I have never had that problem. Maybe you have some malware or something.

BTW the 49ers are still the losers of the SB.

CW on February 7, 2013 at 8:25 PM

You really had to go there? Cheap shot and you know it.

Whatever the issue was it solved itself. I ran my antivirus and malware bytes, but neither found anything.

njrob on February 7, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Here’s a fantasy of mine.

Someone (maybe Jason Mattera) goes up to one of the Progressive politicians with a roll of toilet paper and says something like this to the Ruling classer: “Say, that toilet paper I handed you is for you to keep on your desk to remind you everyday that somewhere out here, people need YOU to tell them how to wipe their bleeps.”

Scary to think the # of politicians that would say something like “I know but we’re working on it you poor thing.”

PappyD61 on February 7, 2013 at 9:53 PM

First they came for the smokers, and I did not speak out–
Because I was not a smoker.

Then they came for the salt and trans-fats, and I did not speak out–
Because I eat those things in moderation.

Then they came for the big sodas, and I did not speak out–
Because I have a tiny bladder and couldn’t drink that much soda to begin with.

Then they came for my styrofoam deli container–and there was no one left to speak for me.

Happy Nomad on February 7, 2013 at 10:31 PM

NYC fears their gay Mayor

jake-the-goose on February 7, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Yet Rudy was the one who bunked with a gay couple before gay was cool.

Happy Nomad on February 7, 2013 at 10:36 PM

*Sigh* Liberal screeching always trumps facts and reason. Foam is recyclable: http://www.dart.biz/web/environ.nsf/pages/care.html

Daft Punk on February 8, 2013 at 9:51 AM

You guys are all missing the point. Most New Yorkers LIKE being told what to do, and what not to do, by their Government. A people that once refused to take of their hats for Kings now bows and scrapes to twerps like Bloomberg. And likes it.

Rogervzv on February 8, 2013 at 10:46 AM