Dempsey: State Department never asked us to respond to Benghazi

posted at 12:41 pm on February 7, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Via Daniel Halper, John McCain extracted some significant testimony from a clearly reluctant chair of the Joint Chiefs in an Armed Services Committee hearing on Benghazi today.  Appearing with outgoing Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, both tried arguing that there are too many threats and places requiring defending to have the American military act as “a global 911 service,” in Panetta’s words:

“The United States military is not and should not be a global 911 service capable of arriving on the scene within minutes to every possible contingency around the world,” Panetta told the Senate Armed Services Committee.

That testimony, combined with Army Gen. Martin Dempsey’s argument that the military did what its location allowed, angered Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who accused the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman of peddling falsehoods.

“For you to testify that our posture did not allow a rapid response, did not take into account threats to our consulate … is simply false,” McCain told Dempsey. McCain contended that the military’s capability allowed armed forces to intervene in short order.

McCain didn’t bother to restrain his disgust in this exchange, either:

“Why didn’t you put forces in place to be ready to respond?,” Senator John McCain asked the general.

Dempsey started, “Because we never received a request to do so, number one. And number two, we –”

McCain interrupted, “You never heard of Ambassador Stevens’s repeated warnings?”

“I had, through General Ham,” responded Dempsey, referring to the commander of AFRICOM. “But we never received a request for support from the State Department, which would have allowed us to put forces–”

“So it’s the State Department’s fault?”

“I’m not blaming the State Department,” Dempsey responded.

This is an absurd argument.  No one would have questioned a lack of preparation at our Geneva embassy on May 14th, for instance.  But this wasn’t May 14th, and it wasn’t Geneva.  It was 9/11 — the eleventh anniversary of the attacks on Washington and New York City, which as anyone who hasn’t been in a coma for the last dozen years knows, al-Qaeda has highlighted for more attack attempts.  Furthermore, it took place in Benghazi, which has been overrun by AQ-affiliated and other Islamist terrorist groups ever since the US and NATO left a huge power vacuum in eastern Libya by decapitating the Qaddafi regime the previous year.  And finally, as McCain points out, the late Ambassador Chris Stevens was trying to point all of this out for months to the State Department, to no avail.

So it wasn’t a question of having a “global 911 service,” as Panetta scoffed.  The problem is an ignorance bordering on the willfully incompetent about the risks in Benghazi and shrugging off preparations to provide support in case something happened.  Dempsey and Panetta are dodging that question of responsibility for the lack of interest at State and the White House in military readiness for a terrorist attack that Stevens saw coming months in advance, and that practically anyone could have predicted after the transformation of eastern Libya into a failed state.

Update: And then there’s this:

And why weren’t there assets moved closer prior to the 11th anniversary of 9/11, especially given Stevens’ warnings?


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“STAND DOWN!” – King B. Hussein’O

Pork-Chop on February 7, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Meanwhile, Hillary and Dear Leader were searching Youtube for any suspicious videos…

d1carter on February 7, 2013 at 12:42 PM

These parasites are Fu*cking pathetic!

ToddPA on February 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Dragging a branch over the hoof prints.

Limerick on February 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM

It was five o’clock DC time the last time Panetta and Dempsey spoke with the POTUS…Hillary was on her second Jack and water…

d1carter on February 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM

If our State Department, the intelligence services, and the DoD weren’t on a red alert on the anniversary of 9/11, then we might as well hang it up. Our federal government is not acting on our behalf.

onlineanalyst on February 7, 2013 at 12:45 PM

“What difference does it make?”

d1carter on February 7, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Well then pull our ambassdors back Leon, and surrender the world to the bad guys–they’ll do the work that America no longer in moral enough to do.

Don L on February 7, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Looks like Obama,never bothered to check in on the “Progress”!

canopfor on February 7, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Arrive “within minutes” or “within 7 hours”, at this point, what difference does it make?

Who ever suggested that the military could have intervened “within minutes” anyway? Senator Strawman?

forest on February 7, 2013 at 12:52 PM

What boils the p*ss is these cockroaches running from the light.

This was a collosal f-up and you better believe they’re not going to own it.

This little turd is swinging in the wind.
Hilldog just said ‘Go screw yourselves’.

Profiles in courage.

CorporatePiggy on February 7, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Old and Busted: We came, we saw, he died *cackle*
New Hotness: We just sat there doing nothing, what difference does it make?

Christien on February 7, 2013 at 12:52 PM

“The United States military is not and should not be a global 911 service capable of arriving on the scene within minutes to every possible contingency around the world,” Panetta told the Senate Armed Services Committee.

What about SEVEN HOURS, Leon? Can we exfil Americans from something like, say, an embassy siege in seven hours?

Washington Nearsider on February 7, 2013 at 12:52 PM

TRAITOROUS.

“The United States military is not and should not be a global 911 service capable of arriving on the scene within minutes (IT WAS FREAKING HOURS) to every possible contingency around the world (to protect our own people),” Panetta told the Senate Armed Services Committee.

That testimony, combined with Army Gen. Martin Dempsey’s argument that the military did what its location allowed, angered Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who accused the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman of peddling falsehoods, lies.

“For you to testify that our posture did not allow a rapid response, did not take into account threats to our consulate … is simply false,” McCain told Dempsey. McCain contended that the military’s capability allowed armed forces to intervene in short order.

What the crap are we paying Panetta and Clinton and these Generals for?………at a minimum to have assets to deploy in unfriendly territories (and HELLS BELLS folks, did we not have some history with LIBYA here?).

Pathetic disgraces to this nation. While brave Americans fight for their lives against pieces of shinola mobs and we’re jacking around leaving them to die?

Disgusting, lying sacks of _______. The blood of the Benghazi four is on the hands of these fools.

****and still, no one has been interviewed by ANY NETWORK that was there that night……..months ago.

Another failure of duty by the media filth.

PappyD61 on February 7, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Troops could have been on the ground in Benghazi at the earliest 13 to 15 hours after attack, General Dempsey tells hearing – live video

15 mins ago by editor

canopfor on February 7, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Ds continuing to try and get Panetta and Dempsey to answer questions on sequester and budgeting issues instead of the Hearing titled “Benghazi Consulate Attack.”

Panetta nor Dempsey called Hillary!!!! O never bothered to call either of them after their 5pm meeting.

It really sounds more and more like a skit from the 3 Stooges.

CoffeeLover on February 7, 2013 at 12:53 PM

@KellyO tweeted:
KellyO
Panetta and Dempsey say they knew of Ambassador Stevens’ warning about not being able to sustain an attack but did not tell Obama or Clinton

1 hour ago from twitter.com by editor

canopfor on February 7, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Troops could have been on the ground in Benghazi at the earliest 13 to 15 hours after attack, General Dempsey tells hearing – live video

15 mins ago by editor

canopfor on February 7, 2013 at 12:53 PM

That’s cool. How long would it have taken 105mm fire from that Spectre that was on-station to reach the crowd below?

Washington Nearsider on February 7, 2013 at 12:53 PM

One conspiracy theory goes down after another!

lester on February 7, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Absolutely pathetic, General Dempsey.
And to indulge in a little inter service rivalry -
Maybe the Army can’t shag it’s huge logistic a$$ fast enough to be a rapid response force, but that’s what your Special Forces are FOR, you narrative parrot. And why the MARINES have the reputation of being ‘America’s 911 Force’.

rayra on February 7, 2013 at 12:54 PM

mccain and graham are grandstanding again! these generals may have plenty of latitude but i’m betting it doesnt extend to sending military units into a country we are not at war with. even w/ an attack against our embassy happening. they still need approval from higher up. stop trying to score cheap points and go after the real criminals.

chasdal on February 7, 2013 at 12:54 PM

The problem is an ignorance bordering on the willfully incompetent about the risks in Benghazi and shrugging off preparations to provide support in case something happened.

You forget, INCOMPETENCE is a hallmark of the current administration.

GarandFan on February 7, 2013 at 12:54 PM

AFRICOM redirected unarmed, unmanned, surveillance aircraft over Benghazi facility after attack, Panetta tells hearing – live video

canopfor on February 7, 2013 at 12:55 PM

“The United States military is not and should not be a global 911 service capable of arriving on the scene within minutes to every possible contingency around the world,” Secretary of Defense Panetta told the Senate Armed Services Committee.”
- Panetta also told Congress the closest military assistance to Benghazi was 9-12 hours away. Panetta LIED under oath before Congress, joining the list of other Obama administrations that have committed FELONY counts of PERJURY before Congress!

“A Special Operations (SpecOps)Team, a team that specializes in counterterrorism rescues, was on hand at Sigonella Naval Air Base, Italy, according to senior military and intelligence sources.” According to those sources, the team from Sigonella could have flown to Benghazi in less than two hours. Sigonella Naval Air Station is located only 480 miles away from Benghazi, a flight time of approximately 2 hours. Even if it would have taken 2 hours to prep for the mission, they still would have been able to reach Benghazi in 4 hours, more than enough time to save the lives of the 2 Ex-Navy SEAL members fighting for their lives. General Carter Ham, AFRICOM Commander, voiced his intent to ignore the order and was immediately relieved of Command.

There are also unconfirmed reports, substantiated by known facts, that there were aircraft already in the air and capable of providing assistance. For example, ex-NAVY SEAL Tyrone Woods was on top of the roof at the compound in Benghazi during the attack and reportedly had a laser on the mortar position that was firing. He repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights. As military experts / SpecOps personnel will tell you, you don’t laze targets during a firefight unless you expect there to be an asset capable of ‘processing’ and striking that target – “You do not ‘paint’ a target until the weapons system / designator is synched’. That means if the AC130 gunship never left Signonella as Panetta claims, the Predator overhead (approximately 1-2 hours after the attack began) that was providing the streaming video was ARMED and CAPABLE OF STRIKING THOSE TARGETS. Again, if a Navy SEAL was ‘painting’ a target something was ‘on-station’ to ‘engage’! Secretary Panetta has disregarded such reports ‘Monday Morning Quarterbacking’.

The American special operators, Woods, Doherty and at least two others were part of the Global Response Staff, a CIA element, based at the CIA annex and were protecting CIA operators who were part of a mission to track and repurchase arms in Benghazi that had proliferated in the wake of Muammar Qaddafi’s fall. Part of their mission was to find the more than 20,000 missing MANPADS, or shoulder-held missiles capable of bringing down a commercial aircraft. According to a source on the ground at the time of the attack, the team inside the CIA annex had captured three Libyan attackers and was forced to hand them over to the Libyans. U.S. officials do not know what happened to those three attackers and whether they were released by the Libyan forces. * There are 20,000 missing MANPADS, by the way, as a result of Obama’s decision not to put ‘boots on the ground’ in Libya while assisting terrorist-backed rebels overthrow Qadaffi. As warned, the Libyan weapons depots were raided and the shoulder-launched missiles disappeared. Many of these MANPADS began showing up in Egypt and in Gaza not long after – others were seen on the Predator video footage being used in the attack on the compound in Benghazi.

easyt65 on February 7, 2013 at 12:55 PM

“But we never received a request for support from the State Department, which would have allowed us to put forces–”

“So it’s the State Department’s fault?”

“I’m not blaming the State Department,” Dempsey responded.

Had this exact same clusterfark of a hearing had taken place on Chimpy Bush’s watch, the hypocritical Democrats would have already started the impeachment hearings.

Right, Hot Gas trolls?

Del Dolemonte on February 7, 2013 at 12:57 PM

No consequences? Nobody fired? *checks watch* Yep, it’s definitely Democrats on watch.

Christien on February 7, 2013 at 12:57 PM

One conspiracy theory goes down after another!

lester on February 7, 2013 at 12:54 PM

The evidence doesn’t support any kind of conspiracy theory. It looks far more like rank incompetence.

What’s just disgusting is everyone trying to wash their hands of it. Zero accountability. HillDog only deemed to address it, and very tangentially, when she was on her way out the door.

CorporatePiggy on February 7, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Ridiculous. Clearly there was some shady business going on between the Turkish ambassador and ours, and there is a lot more to this story then we will ever know.

And secondly, why are we paying billions and billions of dollars to have bases world wide, ships all over the ocean, drones flying all over the world assassinating people off O’s kill list, and huge infringements on our freedoms and privacy at home if we can’t even respond to a terrorist attack in a hot bed of terrorism within 7 hours?

And clearly all of the warantless wire taps, money transfer monitoring, email monitoring, etc that the govt has been doing since 9/11 didn’t help discover a plot involving a lot of people against our ambassador.

But I know the answer — MORE MONEY! Everyone needs more money and more power and that’ll fix everything.

Timin203 on February 7, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Let’s not bicker about who killed who.
This is supposed to be a happy occasion non-event.

http://tinyurl.com/d6rpvpe

connertown on February 7, 2013 at 12:59 PM

One conspiracy theory goes down after another!

lester on February 7, 2013 at 12:54 PM

As Lester checks in from Milk Sop Gulch….

ToddPA on February 7, 2013 at 1:00 PM

What a pathetic argument.

The mission in Benghazi, just like any embassy, is treated as soveriegn American soil. We should be defending it and the personnel within against an attack the same way we would if AQ were attacking Miami Beach.

Bitter Clinger on February 7, 2013 at 1:00 PM

I can’t hold Dear Leader to the same standard I held his Republican predecessor to, so I’ll just drop my turd and slink away!

lester, it’s time for your violin lesson! on February 7, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Edited for clarity.

Del Dolemonte on February 7, 2013 at 1:01 PM

The pro-Democrat media made damned sure to protect their fellow Democrats from what should be much worse than Watergate.

Of course, they and their supporters foolishly think they did a good thing in doing so.

Christien on February 7, 2013 at 1:01 PM

canopfor on February 7, 2013 at 12:53 PM

That’s cool. How long would it have taken 105mm fire from that Spectre that was on-station to reach the crowd below?

Washington Nearsider on February 7, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Washington NearSider:

I’m listening to the hearing as I type!

They stated that a F-16 was the wrong tool!

They claim,the AC-130 had to be armed,fueled,and mid-air re-fueled
and would take to long!

If they had air assets,they couldn’t deploy,because they didn’t
know what was going on,…on the ground!!

I too heard that the Spectre could of made it on time,I dunno!

canopfor on February 7, 2013 at 1:02 PM

‘United States government spared no effort to save American lives,’ Defense Secretary Panetta says at Benghazi attack hearing – live video

Senator Jim Inhofe says ‘the big problem here is the cover-up and nobody talks about it’ at Benghazi hearing – live video

2 hours ago by editor

canopfor on February 7, 2013 at 1:03 PM

If our State Department, the intelligence services, and the DoD weren’t on a red alert on the anniversary of 9/11, then we might as well hang it up. Our federal government is not acting on our behalf.

onlineanalyst on February 7, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Why would they be on alert on 9/11? Just like lightening never strikes the same place (or time?) twice, they probably assumed man-made disasters never strike on the same day twice.

And what’s this terrorism you speak of? We’re facing a nameless, faceless foe (not enemy) who sometimes causes man-made disasters, but they’re usually our fault anyways — or the fault of a youtube video.

Timin203 on February 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM

The incompetent and willfully ignorant ruling elite perform their “Roman Circus” for the unwashed masses. No one will be held accountable, No one will lose their job. No one will be tried for perjury. They will all go the bar afterwards and have a drink and a good laugh at our expense. We are all being played.

retiredeagle on February 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM

What Panetta said:

“The United States military is not and should not be a global 911 service capable of arriving on the scene within minutes to every possible contingency around the world,”

What bad guys all over the planet heard:

“Our OCONUS installations are one their own, we can’t help them if they are attacked”

BobMbx on February 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Because, officially, al-Qaeda was on the run. Therefore, the official U.S. position was to remain unprepared. Because it fit the Obama campaign narrative.

Since when have generals believed, much less strategically relied upon, a politician’s campaign speeches? Particularly a politician who is known for spouting nonsense in service of his own ego?

As usual, I would have preferred more detailed questioning, by trained trial counsel. I would like to have known what assets were in place for rapid response, where they were located, what the scramble time would have been, what would have been deployed, how long it would have taken for those assets to arrive in (or impact – this includes airborne assets) Benghazi. There is much more to this disaster than has even yet been revealed. What is the military mission when/if an American embassy/consulate is attacked by hostile forces? The State Department didn’t place a 9-1-1 call? How about the President, who was supposedly in real-time contact with the situation? The supposed Commander in Chief. Would they have taken a call from the President? Oh, right, he went to bed not knowing where his Ambassador was and whether or not he was alive.

But, all that said, the General is right in one respect. This all goes back to the State Department and the White House. Their “official” position was that the region was stabilizing and, therefore, they drew down security and/or declined to increase security, because they needed to fit their chosen narrative. The fact that the narrative had little to do with reality is one of those inconsequential gnats that only irritate the high and mighty.

IndieDogg on February 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM

The most incompetent President ever…

From the Weekly Standard just an hour ago ago:

Panetta: Obama Absent Night of Benghazi

“Defense Secretary Leon Panetta testified this morning on Capitol Hill that President Barack Obama was absent the night four Americans were murdered in Benghazi on September 11, 2012:

Panetta said that Obama left operational details, including knowledge of what resources were available to help the Americans under seize, “up to us.”

In fact, Panetta says that the night of 9/11, he did not communicate with a single person at the White House. The attack resulted in the deaths of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens.

Panetta said that, save their 5 o’clock prescheduled meeting with the president the day of September 11, Obama did not call or communicate in anyway with the defense secretary that day. There were no calls about the what was going on in Benghazi. He never called to check-in.”

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/panetta-obama-absent-night-benghazi_700405.html

mnjg on February 7, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Obama and Hillary have blood on their hands. Period.

Wake up world.

Always als “why was Amb. Stevens in Benghazi, on the anniv. of 9/11, officially and unofficially, when protocol dictated that he be in Tripoli, in the embassy bunker?”

This will give you the answer to what happened.

Media, spontaneously combust from consuming Obama/Hillary sh*t.

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2013 at 1:06 PM

I’d like to hear what Carter Ham has to say about all this.

Stu Gotts on February 7, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Dempsey is just another disgusting example of the “perfumed princes” that inhabit the upper reaches of the military.
As a West Point graduate, he should know that “quibbling” is the same as lying.
His responses and statements, though, are not at all surprising – given that he is nothing more than a lackey of lil barry obama. There is where his loyalty lies…not to America.

May Dempsey and his fellow perfumed princes all be brought down in disgrace. They dishonor the military services and the people they serve.

Solaratov on February 7, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Our trolls don’t care about people serving at our embassies and consulates–in fact, I doubt a single once of them has skin in the game.

Christien on February 7, 2013 at 1:06 PM

The evidence doesn’t support any kind of conspiracy theory. It looks far more like rank incompetence.

What’s just disgusting is everyone trying to wash their hands of it. Zero accountability. HillDog only deemed to address it, and very tangentially, when she was on her way out the door.

CorporatePiggy on February 7, 2013 at 12:58 PM

The conspiracy theory is that the CIA was re-routing Libyan weapons through Turkey to jihadists in Syria, and that they CIA / State Dept / someone decided not to draw attention to it by sending in a rescue team to save our people.

At some point, SOMEONE decided the move to make was to call it a spontaneous protest against the ambassador and blame it on a YouTube video, which somehow would be easier to do if we didn’t fly into Benghazi, guns blazing, to rescue our people.

There’s way more to this story then we know, but there is no way incompetence explains all of this away. Incompetence would be two rescue helicopters colliding in the middle of the desert. When the choppers don’t take off for 7 hours even though there were reports of an active gun battle at a us consulate… Well…

Timin203 on February 7, 2013 at 1:06 PM

One conspiracy theory goes down after another!

lester on February 7, 2013 at 12:54 PM

…YES!…you do win the dumbphuck award!

KOOLAID2 on February 7, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Panetta said that Obama left operational details, including knowledge of what resources were available to help the Americans under seize, “up to us.”

In fact, Panetta says that the night of 9/11, he did not communicate with a single person at the White House. The attack resulted in the deaths of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens.

Panetta said that, save their 5 o’clock prescheduled meeting with the president the day of September 11, Obama did not call or communicate in anyway with the defense secretary that day. There were no calls about the what was going on in Benghazi. He never called to check-in.

This was/is your CiC, heh…a narcissistic child runs the world. No wonder the state of the world is what it is.

Party on.

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2013 at 1:08 PM

What ever happened to “High Crimes and Misdemeanors” ? Where the hell is the press yelling for heads to roll? Nothing to see here,,move along.

retiredeagle on February 7, 2013 at 1:08 PM

I’d like to hear what Carter Ham has to say about all this.

Stu Gotts on February 7, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Definitely. More important, where are the survivors? What do they have to say? Pro-Democrat media can’t seem to find them. Funny, that.

Christien on February 7, 2013 at 1:08 PM

lester is always a gnat.

Gnatbrain, defend the unconstitutional killing of any US American, by the emperor in chief. We missed you in the last two days.

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2013 at 1:08 PM

There are 20,000 missing MANPADS, by the way, as a result of Obama’s decision not to put ‘boots on the ground’ in Libya while assisting terrorist-backed rebels overthrow Qadaffi. As warned, the Libyan weapons depots were raided and the shoulder-launched missiles disappeared. Many of these MANPADS began showing up in Egypt and in Gaza not long after – others were seen on the Predator video footage being used in the attack on the compound in Benghazi.

easyt65 on February 7, 2013 at 12:55 PM

easyt65:)
==========

Explosive Situation:
Qaddafi’s Abandoned Weapons and the Threat to Libya’s Civilians
August 2012
***********

http://harvardhumanrights.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/libyareport.pdf

canopfor on February 7, 2013 at 1:08 PM

I’d like to hear what Carter Ham has to say about all this.

Stu Gotts on February 7, 2013 at 1:06 PM

That will probably have to wait until after his retirement. The regime is not about to allow him to testify openly before congress.

He might actually tell the truth.

(And when he retires, he’d better watch his back. This regime really doesn’t want the truth of that night to come out.)

Solaratov on February 7, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Obama slept through the night, then went campaigning.

Obama is a traitor to the US and her people.

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Obama is a criminal as regards the droneing of US Americans, without due process.

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Leftists are all tryannical hacks, with Obama their global capo.

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2013 at 1:10 PM

I’m listening to the hearing as I type!

They stated that a F-16 was the wrong tool!

They claim,the AC-130 had to be armed,fueled,and mid-air re-fueled
and would take to long!

If they had air assets,they couldn’t deploy,because they didn’t
know what was going on,…on the ground!!

I too heard that the Spectre could of made it on time,I dunno!

canopfor on February 7, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Even if unarmed, I can’t believe couple of fighter jets flying in overhead of the Annex wouldn’t have dispersed the terrorists and scared the crap out of them.

IMO, their excuses are laughable. And their continued pointing fingers at State, Local Authorities, Intelligence is simply sad.

CoffeeLover on February 7, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Definitely. More important, where are the survivors? What do they have to say? Pro-Democrat media can’t seem to find them. Funny, that.

Christien on February 7, 2013 at 1:08 PM

…and Stevens’ parents are leftist hacks who were likely also silenced.

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2013 at 1:11 PM

“Why didn’t you put forces in place to be ready to respond?,” Senator John McCain asked the general.

Because all their ammo is being stockpiled for the civilian army?

Don L on February 7, 2013 at 1:11 PM

That will probably have to wait until after his retirement. The regime is not about to allow him to testify openly before congress.

He might actually tell the truth.

(And when he retires, he’d better watch his back. This regime really doesn’t want the truth of that night to come out.)

Solaratov on February 7, 2013 at 1:09 PM

If we ever do find out the real story, I almost guarantee it will not be Ham who volunteers it. Even after he retires, he has too much at stake to go against the DoD / State Dept / CIA.

Timin203 on February 7, 2013 at 1:11 PM

connertown on February 7, 2013 at 12:59 PM

– Nice Monty Python Reference.

The evidence doesn’t support any kind of conspiracy theory. // Ridiculous. Clearly there was some shady business going on…

– We know a ‘rival’ group had warned Morsi/the Muslim Brotherhood they were going to riot/protest/storm the Embassy in Cairo & warned if they did not allow it they would spread the word that the Muslim Brotherhood had gotten soft and was ‘in bed with’ the U.S. One ‘reliable source’ reported Morsi supposedly agreed to allowing it happen as long as no one, especially Americans, died. Morsi then ‘reportedly’ tells Hillary ‘you have to let this happen’ or we – the ones you helped put into power – will be weakened and our grip on running Egypt in jeopardy. This provides one of the only possible/plausible explanations of why the State Department would order U.S. Marines guarding the Cairo Embassy NOT TO CARRY LIVE AMMO ON THAT DAY, 9/11/12.

I am NOT a ‘conspiracy theorist’, but I would LOVE to hear any OTHER explanations as to why – on that day, the anniversary of 9/11/12 and the day this rival group supposedly expressed their intent to protest at the embassy – they would order the Marines not to carry live ammo.

easyt65 on February 7, 2013 at 1:11 PM

It was all about the re-election of Obama.

In a legal, sane and just world he’d be prosecuted for dereliction of sworn duty.

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Epic fail

Don’t blame me

cmsinaz on February 7, 2013 at 1:12 PM

This was/is your CiC, heh…a narcissistic child runs the world. No wonder the state of the world is what it is.

Party on.

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Yeah a supreme human like the Shaniqwa agitator should not bother with issues such as defending our people overseas during a terrorist attack…

mnjg on February 7, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Imagine, just imagine that Nixon would have been/be president.

lester and his fleas would explode.

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2013 at 1:13 PM

One conspiracy theory goes down after another!
 
lester on February 7, 2013 at 12:54 PM

 
We know you won’t stick around, but at least try and keep up:
 

So the issue is no longer that there wasn’t a marine contingent there – but that Panetta didn’t get a force there within a few hours.
 
verbaluce on October 22, 2012 at 10:19 AM

 
Say, what just got confirmed, btw?

rogerb on February 7, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Yeah a supreme human like the Shaniqwa agitator should not bother with issues such as defending our people overseas during a terrorist attack…

mnjg on February 7, 2013 at 1:13 PM

There are re-elections and golfing to be done, rube.

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Ah, come on people,,,,what difference does a couple of bumps in the road make????????

retiredeagle on February 7, 2013 at 1:14 PM

The pro-Democrat media made damned sure to protect their fellow Democrats from what should be much worse than Watergate.

Of course, they and their supporters foolishly think they did a good thing in doing so.

Christien on February 7, 2013 at 1:01 PM

NewsBusters’ Noel Sheppard reminds us of yet another bit of Democrat Media double standardism:

under Bush, (Washington) Post and (New York) Times authors won Pulitzer Prizes for disclosing top secret information.

Under Obama, both papers withheld such information.

The hypocrisy is so astounding it’s sick-making.

Del Dolemonte on February 7, 2013 at 1:14 PM

I’d like to hear what Carter Ham has to say about all this.

Stu Gotts on February 7, 2013 at 1:06 PM

They aren’t letting him anywhere a mike!

easyt65 on February 7, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Even if unarmed, I can’t believe couple of fighter jets flying in overhead of the Annex wouldn’t have dispersed the terrorists and scared the crap out of them.

IMO, their excuses are laughable. And their continued pointing fingers at State, Local Authorities, Intelligence is simply sad.

CoffeeLover on February 7, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Yeah, or the drone video taping our people being slaughtered could have done a kamikaze run at the jihadists. Might not have killed them all, but would have been one hell of a distraction.

And I also heavily buy into the theory that the only way a navy seal would give away his position by painting a target with a laser is if he KNEW an armed asset was there to take out the target, and if he was in communication with someone in control of that asset. Otherwise, it’s suicide.

He probably died wondering why the armed drone flying above him didn’t fire, and why America chose to let him die in a hell hole instead of protecting him with everything they had and doing everything possible to bring him and everyone else with him home alive.

Timin203 on February 7, 2013 at 1:16 PM

For future reference if you’re thinking about posting for an assignment in a U.S. Embassy or outpost in the Middle East if there is a Democrat in the White House.

DON’T.

Carter, Iran 1979
Obama, Libya 2013

Democrats are loathe to defend our foreign service personnel. They want to “not offend” and believe they can just “talk” to them and see what their demands are, etc.

PappyD61 on February 7, 2013 at 1:16 PM

“The United States military is not and should not be a global 911 service capable of arriving on the scene within minutes to every possible contingency around the world,” Panetta told the Senate Armed Services Committee.

They damn well better be if Americans are being attacked. Otherwise it’s dereliction of duty.

Mitoch55 on February 7, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Panetta : dear leader was absent during Benghazi attack

Via drudge

WTF

Yeah nice to know AFTER the election

Unstinkingbelievable

cmsinaz on February 7, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Del Dolemonte on February 7, 2013 at 1:14 PM

It is worth noting the Pulitzers awarded for other stories, in lieu of covering Benghazi.

Christien on February 7, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Pathetic. One of the best things you can be in life is useful; which pretty much excludes everyone connected to Benghazi except the four who lost their lives. And yet I am willing to bet that no one, no one will ever be held accountable. Not by the courts, not by Congress, not by the LSM. I we actually had representation in DC, there would be some accountability instead of lip service and posturing so as to appease the interested unwashed hoi polloi but not upset the gravy train apple cart. Disgusting is putting it mildly.

ghostwalker1 on February 7, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Troops could have been on the ground in Benghazi at the earliest 13 to 15 hours after attack, General Dempsey tells hearing – live video

15 mins ago by editor

canopfor on February 7, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Funny that. Don’t the ready battalions of the 82nd and 101st Airborne divisions have a requirement to be in combat, anywhere, in 24 hours with most of that time in the air?

Now, someone convince me we didn’t have an ARG (Amphibious Ready Group) somewhere in the Med? No LHAs or LPDs?

Hogwash.

BobMbx on February 7, 2013 at 1:20 PM

“The United States military is not and should not be a global 911 service capable of arriving on the scene within minutes to every possible contingency around the world,” Panetta told the Senate Armed Services Committee.
They damn well better be if Americans are being attacked. Otherwise it’s dereliction of duty.

Mitoch55 on February 7, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Yeah, well if the military is not a global 911 service capable of quick response, why the hell do we pay so much money and have so many bases around the world?

Why do we have such a large and well armed and funded military if they can’t make it to a terrorism hotspot where US citizens are working within 7 hours? If that’s their excuse, I don’t want to hear another WORD about sequestration out of them.

Don’t want the responsibility of rapid responses to an ambassador under fire? Then shut up about money, clearly you’re not worth the billions of dollars you get annually.

Timin203 on February 7, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Welcome to the dismantling of The Republic. May it RIP

retiredeagle on February 7, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Panetta: Obama Absent Night of Benghazi

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta testified this morning on Capitol Hill that President Barack Obama was absent the night four Americans were murdered in Benghazi on September 11, 2012:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=weq7hY0OhKs

Panetta said that Obama left operational details, including knowledge of what resources were available to help the Americans under siege, “up to us.”

In fact, Panetta says that the night of 9/11, he did not communicate with a single person at the White House. The attack resulted in the deaths of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens.

Panetta said that, save their 5 o’clock prescheduled meeting with the president the day of September 11, Obama did not call or communicate in anyway with the defense secretary that day. There were no calls about what was going on in Benghazi. He never called to check-in.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/panetta-obama-absent-night-benghazi_700405.html

Resist We Much on February 7, 2013 at 1:21 PM

One way,they could of responded was to fire a SLBM,
from a Nuclear Submarine,or a conventional warhead
on a ICBM,and target nearest the Consulant!!

After 9/11,Bush ordered a program,converting some ICBM/SLBM
to strike anywhere on the planet,with a one hour response
time,with conventional warheads!

Prompt Global Strike

Prompt Global Strike (PGS) is a United States military effort to develop a system that can deliver a precision conventional weapon strike anywhere in the world within one hour,[1][2] in a similar manner to a nuclear ICBM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prompt_Global_Strike

canopfor on February 7, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Tap dancing, shufflin’ off the stage, secret policies allowing murder, changing jobs and offices instead of being prosecuted for crimes is the foreign soon to be domestic policy of the O admin. If the marxist/socialists are ever able to take our arms, we’ll be treated no better than the actual terrorists being killed on foreign soil.

Kissmygrits on February 7, 2013 at 1:22 PM

If you associate with Dems, take FOREVER to do anything for them to the point of doing nothing, in the end. That’s the standard of which they approve, so let them enjoy it. And if they get upset afterward, just grin and say, “I agree with Hillary–what difference, at this point, does it make?!”

Christien on February 7, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Panetta : dear leader was absent during Benghazi attack

Via drudge

WTF

Yeah nice to know AFTER the election

Unstinkingbelievable

cmsinaz on February 7, 2013 at 1:17 PM

It is still beyond belief even with all what we know about the incredible incompetence of the parasite class President…

Panetta: Obama Absent Night of Benghazi

“Defense Secretary Leon Panetta testified this morning on Capitol Hill that President Barack Obama was absent the night four Americans were murdered in Benghazi on September 11, 2012:

Panetta said that Obama left operational details, including knowledge of what resources were available to help the Americans under seize, “up to us.”

In fact, Panetta says that the night of 9/11, he did not communicate with a single person at the White House. The attack resulted in the deaths of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens.

Panetta said that, save their 5 o’clock prescheduled meeting with the president the day of September 11, Obama did not call or communicate in anyway with the defense secretary that day. There were no calls about the what was going on in Benghazi. He never called to check-in.”
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/panetta-obama-absent-night-benghazi_700405.html

mnjg on February 7, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Can we just lock John McCain in the Armed Services Committee Room?

blammm on February 7, 2013 at 1:23 PM

RWM

WTF!!!!!!!!

cmsinaz on February 7, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Panetta : dear leader was absent during Benghazi attack

Via drudge

WTF

Yeah nice to know AFTER the election

Unstinkingbelievable

cmsinaz on February 7, 2013 at 1:17 PM

May all the hypocrites, especially the media, spontaneously combust for dereliction of duty.

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Now, someone convince me we didn’t have an ARG (Amphibious Ready Group) somewhere in the Med? No LHAs or LPDs?

Hogwash.

BobMbx on February 7, 2013 at 1:20 PM

We had DoD assets in Italy. We had Navy assets in the Med. We definitely had CIA / NSA assets all over the middle east.

It was a choice not to respond. It’s not like they launched and just got there too late — the choice was made to STAND DOWN and not attempt a rescue. At any time.

There was never a rescue attempted, those Americans were left there on the ground to die because it would be politically inconvenient to save them.

Oh, and where, exactly, are the survivors? Why haven’t we heard from them? And what, exactly, was the CIA doing in Benghazi? And why, exactly, was the turkish ambassador meeting the US ambassador at a remote (unprotected) consulate on the anniversary of 9/11?

Hmmm… But nothing to see here, folks, move on.

Timin203 on February 7, 2013 at 1:24 PM

canopfor on February 7, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Funny that. Don’t the ready battalions of the 82nd and 101st Airborne divisions have a requirement to be in combat, anywhere, in 24 hours with most of that time in the air?

Now, someone convince me we didn’t have an ARG (Amphibious Ready Group) somewhere in the Med? No LHAs or LPDs?

Hogwash.

BobMbx on February 7, 2013 at 1:20 PM

BobMbx:

Its frustrating,I think the gist of this,is
that they could do nothing!

Its nuts!:)

canopfor on February 7, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Can we just lock John McCain in the Armed Services Committee Room?

blammm on February 7, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Send him to a creche, with Reid, McConnell, Lautenberg and a few others. Suche incontinent of the pants and the brain idiots s/b forbidden to serve, by age limitations.

———
Panetta is a benevolent dunce, but one who loves his land and who is trying to save his soul.

Obama and Hagel are the opposite.

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2013 at 1:26 PM

This whole thing still makes me so angry.

“Never leave a man behind” has been our code forever. It’s an ethos, it’s in our blood.

Clearly, that’s changed.

Washington Nearsider on February 7, 2013 at 1:26 PM

Sheriff Kai>Obama, Hillary, Panetta, the whole lot.

SMASH! SMASH! SUH-SMASH!

Christien on February 7, 2013 at 1:26 PM

RWM, Hillary was AWOL too.

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Cantor knew about all this, and kept quiet. I hate him more than Boehner, if that’s possible.

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Panetta said that, save their 5 o’clock prescheduled meeting with the president the day of September 11, Obama did not call or communicate in anyway with the defense secretary that day. There were no calls about what was going on in Benghazi. He never called to check-in.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/panetta-obama-absent-night-benghazi_700405.html

Resist We Much on February 7, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Resist We Much:

Obama was told that an attack was going on,and
he never said a word after that,not once did he
check in to see what was going on,according to
Panettas testimony!:)

Nuts!

canopfor on February 7, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Indeed mnjg

From your keyboard schadenfreude….

cmsinaz on February 7, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Someone photoshop Obama and Hillary sleeping while Benghazi happens.

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Funny that. Don’t the ready battalions of the 82nd and 101st Airborne divisions have a requirement to be in combat, anywhere, in 24 hours with most of that time in the air?

Now, someone convince me we didn’t have an ARG (Amphibious Ready Group) somewhere in the Med? No LHAs or LPDs?

Hogwash.

BobMbx on February 7, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Of course we have special forces who were ready to strike the terrorist in Libya within two hours of the begining of the attacks… Moreover we certainly have the Navy aircrafts which could have struck the terrorists within 30 minutes of the begining of their attack… However according to this breaking news from Panetta today:

Panetta: Obama Absent Night of Benghazi

“Defense Secretary Leon Panetta testified this morning on Capitol Hill that President Barack Obama was absent the night four Americans were murdered in Benghazi on September 11, 2012:

Panetta said that Obama left operational details, including knowledge of what resources were available to help the Americans under seize, “up to us.”….

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/panetta-obama-absent-night-benghazi_700405.html

Yeah even we though we know that Obama is the most incompetent President ever news like the above still sruprise us about how incredibly incompetent he is…

mnjg on February 7, 2013 at 1:29 PM

I had to look it up:

From Global Security:

The 82nd Airborne Division is undisputedly, the largest parachute force in the world, noted for their swiftness to literally jump into action. The Division has one battalion permanently on 18 hours standby, ready to be deployed anywhere in the world. And if necessary, the rest of the division’s Ready Brigade will join them within a day. As the only air assault division in the world, the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) has unique intelligence needs that pose several challenges to the Intelligence battlefield functional area. Like the sister division, the 82d Airborne Division, the mission of the 101st requires that a Division Ready Brigade be “wheels up” for deployment anywhere in the world within 18 hours.

So the 82nd can deploy a battalion, and the 101st can deploy an entire combat brigade. And they’re here, stateside.

Now, can we dare say that other, smaller, more specialized units can’t get on scene even faster? Delta? SEALs? Rangers?

My theory includes a great deal of fear at the highest levels of the US Govt of unleashing a SpecWar unit to defend an already over-run compound. The fear being none would have survived. The jihadis, that is. Typically, the fastest responders are also the most lethal.

BobMbx on February 7, 2013 at 1:29 PM

This is nothing new for Democratic politics. There is a new book out re the disappearance of Amelia Earhart. Roosevelt knew what happened,ordered her aircraft to be burned at Saipan and then issued a secret EO to keep all info under wraps. Would have been too “destructive to a relection campaign” and relations with the Japanese.

retiredeagle on February 7, 2013 at 1:29 PM

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