Post Office to end Saturday deliveries

posted at 8:41 am on February 6, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

You take sixteen billion, and what do you get?  Another day shorter and lighter in debt — or so the Post Office hopes.  The USPS went into the red in 2012 by an astounding $16 billion, and needs to find ways to cut costs.  CBS News reports this morning that they will trim one-sixth of their deliveries by ending 150 years of Saturday service for first-class mail:

Get ready for some big changes in your mail service. After losing $16 billion last year, the postmaster general will make announce Wednesday that the Postal Service intends to halt Saturday delivery of first-class mail by this summer, Aug. 1, CBS News has learned. That means most mailers, letters and catalogs would not arrive on Saturdays, ending a 150-year tradition.

The plan to shrink delivery from six days a week to five would only affect first-class mail, while packages, mail-order medicines, priority and express mail would still get delivered on Saturdays.

I don’t really consider this a big change.  After all, what I don’t get on Saturday, I’ll still get on Monday.  Most of my first-class mail is either bills or letters from friends — at least the mail I actually care about — none of which are particularly urgent.  Anything urgent comes to me by FedEx or UPS in most cases, or electronically in others.

In fact, I’m curious about just how much this actually will save.  Senator Tom Coburn claims that the USPS can save $2 billion with this change, but again, all that mail will still need to be delivered on Mondays.  If the trucks are running at a capacity where Saturday and Monday mail can be combined into the same single truck route without having to go back and run the routes in two trips, then maybe the excess capacity is really the issue, and not the number of days spent delivering the mail.

CBS also wonders whether this is a real strategy, or a way to force Congress to authorize a modernization:

David Walker, a former government watchdog, is part of a panel looking at possible postal reforms. Walker told CBS News the new measure “won’t come close to solving the postal service’s problem. It’s got to look at more fundamental changes in its infrastructure, its compensation costs, its retirement obligations, and also what it does and who does its business.”

But there’s just so much the Postal Service can do without congressional approval. Despite years of begging by postmasters general, Congress never passed a reform bill that would have given the Postal Service more flexibility to modernize and streamline its service.

If they’re doing this to pressure Congress, then they have to think that ending Saturday service will prompt outrage from voters.  I don’t think that’s going to be the case, especially with package deliveries continuing.  What do you think?  Take the poll:

 

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This really pisses me off. I count on a lot of first-class mail being delivered on Saturday.

bluegill on February 6, 2013 at 8:45 AM

i can’t even subscribe to Fangoria magazine cuz those mental giants always tear up the damn magazine when delievering them.

GhoulAid on February 6, 2013 at 8:45 AM

Who the heck is voting yes in the above poll? You guys nuts?

bluegill on February 6, 2013 at 8:46 AM

I personally think the mail should only be delivered every other day.

ButterflyDragon on February 6, 2013 at 8:46 AM

Open up the mailboxes and first-class mail delivery to FedEx, UPS, et al.

Steve Eggleston on February 6, 2013 at 8:47 AM

What? Unions wrecking another industry? Impossible.

loudmouth883 on February 6, 2013 at 8:49 AM

Do carriers get paid by the piece? This idea is just silly. I don’t care either way, since I can still get a DVD I ordered on a Saturday. Now, if I couldn’t, I might have to write my Congressman. /

Liam on February 6, 2013 at 8:49 AM

Last time I mail-ordered a USPS package from Montana to New Jersey and tracked it, it went through Puerto Rico. I have a snapshot of the tracker website to prove it. Any wonder they’re losing money by the handful?

Archivarix on February 6, 2013 at 8:50 AM

I’m already used to UPS not delivering to my neighborhood on Saturdays, and most of my packages come from them(courtesy of Amazon Prime). So this won’t be a major adjustment.

What p-sses me off is that USPS just did their annual postage price hike a few weeks ago in order to close their budget deficit(which never works, BTW) and this time around they jacked up foreign shipping by an ungodly amount. It used to cost less than 4 bucks to send a package under 1 lb to Canada. It’s now more than double that price. And I hope you don’t need to ship anything to Europe cuz that got raised by an even larger sum.

Doughboy on February 6, 2013 at 8:51 AM

I think they should take over all email servers in the country and charge a per-email delivery fee. That’ll solve the problem for sure!

Rufus on February 6, 2013 at 8:52 AM

Who the heck is voting yes in the above poll? You guys nuts?

bluegill on February 6, 2013 at 8:46 AM

Not only yes but a thousand yes… This is one way to save money, our tax payers money…

mnjg on February 6, 2013 at 8:52 AM

I get so busy with life I seldom get to the mailbox on Saturdays.

sadatoni on February 6, 2013 at 8:52 AM

Not only yes but a thousand yes… This is one way to save money, our tax payers money…

mnjg on February 6, 2013 at 8:52 AM

I voted yes. What am I missing out on? More junk mail I usually throw out without reading? Packages are exempted from this so that occasional item that’s shipped to me via USPS will still be delivered as scheduled. Even bills will hardly be affected since with the exception of MUD, all my other monthly payments are done through automatic withdrawal.

Doughboy on February 6, 2013 at 8:57 AM

I personally think the mail should only be delivered every other day.

ButterflyDragon on February 6, 2013 at 8:46 AM

I agree. I have thought the same thing for years.

rhit87 on February 6, 2013 at 8:57 AM

And I hope you don’t need to ship anything to Europe cuz that got raised by an even larger sum.

Doughboy on February 6, 2013 at 8:51 AM

This last Christmas I sent a package that weighed perhaps 5 pounds, to Wales from ND.
It cost me $70.

Badger40 on February 6, 2013 at 8:57 AM

Just one less day my mailman gives me the guy’s mail that lives down the block, and vice versa.

Since moving to this house/neighborhood, I’ve never had so many deliveries of mail that does not belong to me.

tru2tx on February 6, 2013 at 8:58 AM

If they’re going to cut out mail service on Saturdays, the Federal Government may as well put mail delivery out to bid. The only reason Fedex or UPS didn’t enter the conversation before is because of the lack of Saturday delivery.

I’d be willing to bet either of those comopanies could find a way to make mail delivery profitable.

Mitoch55 on February 6, 2013 at 8:58 AM

Oh ya,who da h*ll wants bills delivered on saturday!

(sarc)

canopfor on February 6, 2013 at 9:00 AM

They want to stop deliveries on Saturday, fine. It won’t save them from insolvency.

nobar on February 6, 2013 at 9:03 AM

Who the heck is voting yes in the above poll? You guys nuts?

bluegill on February 6, 2013 at 8:46 AM

…our nuts are fine!…how are yours?

KOOLAID2 on February 6, 2013 at 9:03 AM

How about alternate day delivery? One half of a area gets delivery on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, the other half Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday. It would take one half of the delivery people and would save a whole lot more than cutting of Saturdays.

Dasher on February 6, 2013 at 9:03 AM

The money saved has already been spent..
And then some.

Electrongod on February 6, 2013 at 9:03 AM

I don’t really consider this a big change. After all, what I don’t get on Saturday, I’ll still get on Monday

Are you sure about that? Stop and think… that would mean comes Monday, every mail carrier would have to carry Saturday’s mail as well as Monday’s mail. That’s twice the mail. So.. either you will get Saturday’s mail on Monday, and Monday’s mail on Tuesday and on down the line..

… but one thing is sure… nobody is going to work twice as hard on Monday to make up for no mail on Saturday. Especially since this is about saving money.

JellyToast on February 6, 2013 at 9:04 AM

Let FedEx do it. They’ll make a tidy profit.

Akzed on February 6, 2013 at 9:04 AM

Maybe they need to trim back on pensions and automate the system a bit more.

Oh and don’t forget to ban all Post Office employees from owning a gun before you make those changes.

Ukiah on February 6, 2013 at 9:06 AM

Just one day closer to a civilian company taking the entire business over and doing it better, cheaper and for a profit……

dddave on February 6, 2013 at 9:07 AM

Mitoch55 on February 6, 2013 at 8:58 AM

I agree. Just because the government is ALLOWED to do something(current interpretation of the Postal Clause), doesn’t mean that they HAVE to do it.

OBQuiet on February 6, 2013 at 9:09 AM

I personally think the mail should only be delivered every other day.

ButterflyDragon on February 6, 2013 at 8:46 AM

Once a week would be plenty for me. Snail mail, mainly because of all the junk mail, is a pain in the butt. Email, fax and UPS/FedEx is much more convenient.

petefrt on February 6, 2013 at 9:09 AM

It’s about time. Technology changed a long time ago. Yeah, small businesses who still mail out flyers and such will be hurt. On the otehr hand, maybe it will open up some opportunities for entrepreneurs… yeah, we used to have some of them around. Have they all left the country? I wouldn’t blame them if they did.

rhombus on February 6, 2013 at 9:10 AM

I don’t get much mail so it doesn’t bother me to not have it on Saturday. But the folks at my neighborhood retirement community, they look forward to getting their mail and I’ll bet most of them won’t like not getting any on Saturday. But they’ve been hearing about how this might happen for the last year or so so I’m sure they can adjust.

scalleywag on February 6, 2013 at 9:10 AM

You need to add an option on the voting to just privatize the mail system.

GardenGnome on February 6, 2013 at 9:11 AM

Who the heck is voting yes in the above poll? You guys nuts?

bluegill on February 6, 2013 at 8:46 AM

It must be those delusional palinistas living in their grammy’s basements. They tend to be responsible for all other world ills so why not this.

Mitch Rapp on February 6, 2013 at 9:11 AM

The plan to shrink delivery from six days a week to five would only affect first-class mail, while packages, mail-order medicines, priority and express mail would still get delivered on Saturdays.

That’s key…packages still delivered on Saturday. FedEx and UPS charge a good chunk extra to deliver on Saturdays, while the USPS doesn’t. As for first class mail…nothing I get can’t wait a couple of days.

JetBoy on February 6, 2013 at 9:12 AM

Meh. The way I see it, it’ll give my moron mail carriers who all make their deliveries with their cell phones glued to their ears one fewer day to deliver my mail to the wrong addresses. (Something they do repeatedly, because they’re too busy talking on their cell phones to do their job.)

And yes, I have complained. And yes, it doesn’t do a damn bit of good.

Undine on February 6, 2013 at 9:12 AM

I don’t think it will help their financial situation much, though. Maybe they ought to just privatize the service.

scalleywag on February 6, 2013 at 9:12 AM

Does not anybody remember when there was a morning and afternoon delivery? Soon everyone will forget about a Saturday delivery.

Madcity on February 6, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Yesterday I ordered 5 cute beads from China for 99 cents and free shipping. I’ve been getting jewelry pieces like this for the past month. Every time I order I say “How is this possible”? You couldn’t send 5 beads from NYC to LA for 99 cents. It would be $5 postage and $1 each for the beads.

vityas on February 6, 2013 at 9:14 AM

In fact, I’m curious about just how much this actually will save.

The only savings I can see is not having to pay USPS employees on Saturday, in particular those who deliver the mail. Presumably they will need fewer employees and will cut back, most likely through attrition. If their union contract specifies higher pay for Saturdays there is additional savings.

They estimate a $2 billion/year savings. But they are already in the red $16 billion/year. If they are losing $16 billion/year their total yearly costs must be much higher than that. Let’s say their total yearly costs/expenses are four times that or $64 billion. Then that $2 billion savings represents a 3.1% reduction in their annual yearly costs/expenses.

farsighted on February 6, 2013 at 9:14 AM

Just one day closer to a civilian company taking the entire business over and doing it better, cheaper and for a profit……

dddave on February 6, 2013 at 9:07 AM

Hopefully.

petefrt on February 6, 2013 at 9:15 AM

Just think of how many dog bite injuries will be reduced.

“If we can save just one post-person..
Then we must try”

Electrongod on February 6, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Well, I guess that our bank trips will change, at the every least.
A lot of our customers (all local) pay us on Fridays, and those checks are delivered on Sat, so after receiving those, we make our bizz deposit.
Yawn. No biggie, for us, really.
Only wish these changes would truly be realized in actual savings, but we know how that goes.

pambi on February 6, 2013 at 9:17 AM

The post office is not a private business. It’s a government bureaucracy.
They are not doing this to improve service, but to save money. But it won’t help them in the long run because they’re a bureaucracy. They will cut service, raise prices and the deliveries will slow down.

If this were a private business.. they’d cut prices, lay off employees and try to make the service speedier and better to attract more customers.

You may get your Saturday mail on Monday.. but don’t expect all of Monday’s mail until Tuesday. There is simply no way this bureaucracy is going to double their output and work harder on Monday just to make you happy.

JellyToast on February 6, 2013 at 9:18 AM

This should allow them to eliminate a large number of part time carriers, that is where the savings come from. If you’re only delivering Monday through Friday one carrier can handle each route. I still get paper copies of most of my bills, though I should just go for e-bills. I don’t snail mail any of my payments.

They should have done it years ago.

Sparky on February 6, 2013 at 9:19 AM

Does not anybody remember when there was a morning and afternoon delivery? Soon everyone will forget about a Saturday delivery.

Madcity on February 6, 2013 at 9:13 AM

I can remember when milk was delivered to our house..
Now I just add it to my grocery list..
I could probably just add “stop by the post office” on that list too.

Electrongod on February 6, 2013 at 9:19 AM

WOW!!!! Another government service I rarely use… that which can’t be accomplished by email I can usually accomplish by fax. The only exceptions are original signatures and notarized documents.
.
The Post Office did add the phrase “going postal” to the lexicon, though, so that’s something to cheer about.

ExpressoBold on February 6, 2013 at 9:21 AM

So the creed will read,Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds except Saturday.

docflash on February 6, 2013 at 9:25 AM

farsighted on February 6, 2013 at 9:14 AM

Following up. According to the document at the link the USPS’s operating expenses in 2011 were about $70 billion.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R41024.pdf

Of course, there is also the issue of unfunded pension liabilities.

farsighted on February 6, 2013 at 9:28 AM

Auction this monstrosity off to whatever private company or corporation is willing to take it on and make it profitable. We’ll get better service AND mail will be cheaper.

Anything govt can do, the private sector can do better.
Except when it comes to destroying our freedom and prosperity. At that govt is the all-time master.

DRayRaven on February 6, 2013 at 9:28 AM

Cut mail service in half.

Half the routes get Mon, Wed and Fri Delivery. The other routes get Tues, Thurs, and Sat delivery. That should reduce labor costs big time.

If it is about creating jobs, let’s ban earth moving equipment when we build\repair roads.

WashJeff on February 6, 2013 at 9:29 AM

I can remember when milk was delivered to our house..

I never quite understood that…why would milk be delivered? And was it warm? What if no one was home until nighttime?

JetBoy on February 6, 2013 at 9:30 AM

You may get your Saturday mail on Monday.. but don’t expect all of Monday’s mail until Tuesday. There is simply no way this bureaucracy is going to double their output and work harder on Monday just to make you happy.

JellyToast on February 6, 2013 at 9:18 AM

This.

I want Saturday deliveries ended as a way to demonstrate just how much the government is going broke. Maybe this will help show the low info voters how deep the hole is.

I just don’t have a lot of sympathy for the FSA to have to wait until Monday to get their benefit checks.

Oh, and if you count on a lot of first class mail to be delivered on Saturdays, you’re in dire need of a new paradigm.

JohnTant on February 6, 2013 at 9:31 AM

This sucks for me because my weekly issue of “Violent Amish Freak” usually arrives on Saturday.

Bishop on February 6, 2013 at 9:32 AM

Following up. According to the document at the link the USPS’s operating expenses in 2011 were about $70 billion.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R41024.pdf

Of course, there is also the issue of unfunded pension liabilities.

farsighted on February 6, 2013 at 9:28 AM

Just like with gas prices, where Europeans pay more than twice what we do, it’s the same with postage rates…we in the US are getting a pretty great deal price-wise for first class mail.

JetBoy on February 6, 2013 at 9:33 AM

I never get any mail on Saturday that couldn’t wait until Monday.

22044 on February 6, 2013 at 9:33 AM

I’ve always thought six days a week is not necessary. My thoughts though was to have residential service Tuesday through Saturday.
That way when there was a Holiday on Monday, mail would still be delivered five days that week. Every other day has come to mind also.
I wonder how many times a week a person with a Postal Box makes the trip to pick up their mail. I would venture to say, not six times a week.
I think the reason they didn’t do this before is because they had to get the Social Security checks Direct Deposit going first.

Whiterock on February 6, 2013 at 9:34 AM

I never quite understood that…why would milk be delivered? And was it warm? What if no one was home until nighttime?

JetBoy on February 6, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Most times, the delivery was made very early in the morning (3-6AM), in glass bottles with waxed-paper caps. You could get butter and eggs, too. The box was insulated to keep the milk cold.

A long time ago, that was.

Liam on February 6, 2013 at 9:34 AM

The milk wasn’t warm because mom was home to put it in the Ice Box. I remember those days quite well too. I am only 57.

Whiterock on February 6, 2013 at 9:36 AM

I never quite understood that…why would milk be delivered? And was it warm? What if no one was home until nighttime?

JetBoy on February 6, 2013 at 9:30 AM

We have a milkman because there are so many kids we could almost keep a tanker truck with a tap connected to the house; saves lugging all those gallons. We have a side entry on our house with a 10 cu/ft fridge inside, but there is another door to actually enter the house. So the milkman has a key to the side door and just puts the milk in the fridge.

Bishop on February 6, 2013 at 9:38 AM

Last time I mail-ordered a USPS package from Montana to New Jersey and tracked it, it went through Puerto Rico. I have a snapshot of the tracker website to prove it. Any wonder they’re losing money by the handful?

Did you dust it for cocaine residue? A lot of the drugs make it to the mainland that way because domestic mails do not have to go through customs inspections. The airports and mail centers are a hub of illegal drug smuggling activities. They open packages and put them in,, stick packets between envelopes, whatever, and then someone on the other end picks it out before it’s sent on to you.

Two weeks ago 11 postal workers got nabbed by the feds for doing just that at the USPS distribution center here.

JoseQuinones on February 6, 2013 at 9:38 AM

In fact, I’m curious about just how much this actually will save.

The only savings I can see is not having to pay USPS employees on Saturday, in particular those who deliver the mail. -snip-

farsighted on February 6, 2013 at 9:14 AM

Aren’t they salaried? Most government employees aren’t hourly, are they?

Mitoch55 on February 6, 2013 at 9:38 AM

Newman!!!!!

elowe on February 6, 2013 at 9:39 AM

Just like with gas prices, where Europeans pay more than twice what we do, it’s the same with postage rates…we in the US are getting a pretty great deal price-wise for first class mail.

JetBoy on February 6, 2013 at 9:33 AM

The USPS priced themselves out of my business awhile ago.

I used to pay bills through the mail. The monthly cost got ridiculous. I looked for options. Now I do it all on-line. My bank provides the service for free and I have never had a problem.

farsighted on February 6, 2013 at 9:40 AM

Who the heck is voting yes in the above poll? You guys nuts?

bluegill on February 6, 2013 at 8:46 AM
Not only yes but a thousand yes… This is one way to save money, our tax payers money…

mnjg on February 6, 2013 at 8:52 AM

A better idea, to really cut costs would be to deliver every other day to any given address. Allow employee attrition.

Let’s face it. Their services just aren’t required as much as they used to be.

WryTrvllr on February 6, 2013 at 9:42 AM

Aren’t they salaried? Most government employees aren’t hourly, are they?

Mitoch55 on February 6, 2013 at 9:38 AM

I’m pretty sure all USPS employees except for “manangement” are hourly and unionized.

farsighted on February 6, 2013 at 9:42 AM

What’s the hurry? They’ve only been talking about doing it since I was in high school back in the Stone Age 70′s).

soozer47 on February 6, 2013 at 9:44 AM

Just like with gas prices, where Europeans pay more than twice what we do, it’s the same with postage rates…we in the US are getting a pretty great deal price-wise for first class mail.

JetBoy on February 6, 2013 at 9:33 AM

Um. It’s all taxes. So we should be thankful we still have any of our paycheck left?

WryTrvllr on February 6, 2013 at 9:44 AM

The internet took away a lot of their first class business with emails and instant messages and like most big organizations….they didn’t change their business model. It seems all they’ve done is take on more junk mail (at lesser prices) which didn’t make up the revenue.

Personnel decreases never happened

Brick and Mortar facilities never reduced

Congressional Oversight was lax and never addressed the problem…for over 10 yrs.

Getting rid of Saturday delivery will come no where close to where it needs to be.

CoffeeLover on February 6, 2013 at 9:47 AM

What p-sses me off is that USPS just did their annual postage price hike a few weeks ago in order to close their budget deficit(which never works, BTW) and this time around they jacked up foreign shipping by an ungodly amount. It used to cost less than 4 bucks to send a package under 1 lb to Canada. It’s now more than double that price. And I hope you don’t need to ship anything to Europe cuz that got raised by an even larger sum.

Doughboy on February 6, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Yep. I shipped my latest book (I’m a writer) to a friend in Canada in mid-January. Cost: $3.75. I offered it in a Goodreads giveaway and had a Canadian winner, so I had to ship another copy of the same book on Friday. Cost: $8.55.

(In comparison, the cost for shipping the book domestically increased 12 cents.)

CJ on February 6, 2013 at 9:48 AM

is really pisses me off. I count on a lot of first-class mail being delivered on Saturday.

bluegill on February 6, 2013 at 8:45 AM

Your fan mail?

katy the mean old lady on February 6, 2013 at 9:48 AM

Open up the mailboxes and first-class mail delivery to FedEx, UPS, et al.

Steve Eggleston on February 6, 2013 at 8:47 AM

Agreed, and say good bye to the monopoly of USPS….

hillsoftx on February 6, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Newman!!!!!

elowe on February 6, 2013 at 9:39 AM

“OK, you’re right…nobody really needs any mail.” lol!

22044 on February 6, 2013 at 9:50 AM

This is just one less day that they can screw-up my mail.

These people are inept.

Hill60 on February 6, 2013 at 9:52 AM

I never quite understood that…why would milk be delivered? And was it warm? What if no one was home until nighttime?

[JetBoy on February 6, 2013 at 9:30 AM]

Our house had a milk box built into the wall of the house with doors on both sides. The milkman would deliver between 12AM and 8AM or so, three times a week. It was cold and they had it on huge blocks of ice in the truck. At one point, it was 4 quarts per delivery. He’d also deliver orange juice and grape juice.

I remember hearing him sometimes coming down the driveway with the bottles clanking, around 4:30AM. He’d take the empties and deliver the filled ones.

The guy lived down the street and I hung out with his son. I went out on deliveries with him once just for jollies.

Dusty on February 6, 2013 at 9:52 AM

Our taxes won’t go down one penny in response to this reduction of service.

The United States government — creeping ever closer to taking everything you have and giving nothing back.

Aitch748 on February 6, 2013 at 9:53 AM

There is some question as to whether the Postal Service has the legal authority to do this.

For the past 30 years, Congress has included a rider for last 30 years insisting on Saturday delivery. That still stands.

Some on the Hill are bewildered about this announcement…

Chad Pergram

FOX News

Senior Producer for Capitol Hill

CoffeeLover on February 6, 2013 at 9:54 AM

In fact, I’m curious about just how much this actually will save.
The only savings I can see is not having to pay USPS employees on Saturday, in particular those who deliver the mail. -snip-

farsighted on February 6, 2013 at 9:14 AM
Aren’t they salaried? Most government employees aren’t hourly, are they?

Mitoch55 on February 6, 2013 at 9:38 AM

What about the fuel the vehicles run on? How much does it cost to put a mile on your car?

WryTrvllr on February 6, 2013 at 9:54 AM

We have a milkman because there are so many kids we could almost keep a tanker truck with a tap connected to the house; saves lugging all those gallons. We have a side entry on our house with a 10 cu/ft fridge inside, but there is another door to actually enter the house. So the milkman has a key to the side door and just puts the milk in the fridge.

Bishop on February 6, 2013 at 9:38 AM

There are still milkmen? I learn something new every day.

Heh, what do you do, run an orphanage out of your house? I have a second fridge in my basement too…mostly for all my bottled water, Gatorade, sports drinks, that kind of stuff…it’s nothing fancy but I’m glad to have it. My free weights and exercise stuff is down there so it’s convenient and save a lot space in the kitchen fridge.

JetBoy on February 6, 2013 at 9:55 AM

I never quite understood that…why would milk be delivered? And was it warm? What if no one was home until nighttime?

JetBoy on February 6, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Moms were home during the day. Families only had one car. Refrigerators were small. Milk was delivered so those one-car families didn’t have to go to the store so often.

Both my grandfathers were dairy farmers, and one also had a milk delivery route. My aunt lived in town after she married. When her first child was born, a neighbor was trying to be funny and said, “Hmm. He looks a bit like the milk man.” To which my aunt responded, “Well, he’d better.”

CJ on February 6, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Let FedEx do it. They’ll make a tidy profit.

Akzed on February 6, 2013 at 9:04 AM

Why just FedEx?

Heck, I wouldn’t mind seeing FedEx and UPS team up and start a joint venture to run the USPS. It could be called FedUP.

Myron Falwell on February 6, 2013 at 9:57 AM

I voted Unsure/No Opinion, but what I was looking for was “Let it Burn”. All polls from now on should have a “Let it Burn” option. It’s always the appropriate answer.

restate_the_obvious on February 6, 2013 at 9:58 AM

Open up the mailboxes and first-class mail delivery to FedEx, UPS, et al.

Steve Eggleston on February 6, 2013 at 8:47 AM

I just learned a couple of months ago that FedEx and the USPS have a kind of joint deal going…FedEx gets use of air mail and the postal service gets to fly stuff on FedEx planes. I forget the details but it’s beneficial to both parties especially in more rural areas and in major cities as well where having more trucks would be difficult.

JetBoy on February 6, 2013 at 9:59 AM

As we all know, the USPS debt is largely the result of the above-market pay rates for postal employees, and their gold-plated benefits.

Natch, they’re not going to cut back on those. They’ll cut back in ways that affect us little people.

Having said that, Not getting mail on Saturdays is not something I’m going to lose sleep over.

Neither snow nor rain nor bankruptcy…

FlatlanderByTheLake on February 6, 2013 at 10:01 AM

There are still milkmen? I learn something new every day.

JetBoy on February 6, 2013 at 9:55 AM

Schwans? I thought they were nationwide. Maybe I’m just really lucky here in Virginia.

ButterflyDragon on February 6, 2013 at 10:02 AM

There are still milkmen? I learn something new every day.

JetBoy on February 6, 2013 at 9:55 AM

One example…

Oberwies home delivery service

farsighted on February 6, 2013 at 10:03 AM

One example…

Oberwies home delivery service

farsighted on February 6, 2013 at 10:03 AM

Would have never guessed. Next I’ll find out doctors are still making house calls heh.

JetBoy on February 6, 2013 at 10:10 AM

‘Since 2008 we’ve seen a steady decline in use of 1st-class mail,’ US Postmaster General Donahoe says – broadcast

2 mins ago from video.msnbc.msn.com by editor

Live video: US postmaster general makes announcement on Postal Service operational restructuring – @NBCNews

4 mins ago from video.msnbc.msn.com by editor

canopfor on February 6, 2013 at 10:11 AM

As we all know, the USPS debt is largely the result of the above-market pay rates for postal employees, and their gold-plated benefits.

Natch, they’re not going to cut back on those. They’ll cut back in ways that affect us little people.

Quick and dirty excuse, Flat, and I hear ya, but it is more sinister than that. Bottom line is Congess has caused the majority of the problem. Once again.

From the HuffPo article:
The agency’s biggest problem – and the majority of the red ink in 2012 – was not due to reduced mail flow but rather to mounting mandatory costs for future retiree health benefits, which made up $11.1 billion of the losses. Without that and other related labor expenses, the mail agency sustained an operating loss of $2.4 billion, lower than the previous year.

The health payments are a requirement imposed by Congress in 2006 that the post office set aside $55 billion in an account to cover future medical costs for retirees. The idea was to put $5.5 billion a year into the account for 10 years. That’s $5.5 billion the post office doesn’t have.

No other government agency is required to make such a payment for future medical benefits. Postal authorities wanted Congress to address the issue last year, but lawmakers finished their session without getting it done. So officials are moving ahead to accelerate their own plan for cost-cutting.

Congress once again imposing unsustainable unfunded liabilities, then kicking the can down the road when the bill comes due.

Tenwheeler on February 6, 2013 at 10:12 AM

Unbelievable.

Fire everyone in Congress for not doing their jobs.

Then,
Term limits.

Tenwheeler on February 6, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Schwans? I thought they were nationwide. Maybe I’m just really lucky here in Virginia.

ButterflyDragon on February 6, 2013 at 10:02 AM

Schwans is popular here in western PA too.

petefrt on February 6, 2013 at 10:13 AM

The “fix” makes about as much sense as a restaurant that is losing money, closing on Friday nights.

Yeah, we are spending more than we are bringing in, so let’s make less…..

Tenwheeler on February 6, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Oh Lord, Obamacare will be just like the United States Postal Service.

SC.Charlie on February 6, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Schwans? I thought they were nationwide. Maybe I’m just really lucky here in Virginia.

ButterflyDragon on February 6, 2013 at 10:02 AM

I see a Schwans truck on a decently regular basis in my city.

MelonCollie on February 6, 2013 at 10:17 AM

Oops,so sorry Post Office Breifing Linky, still OnGoing!

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nbcnews.com/50716389#50716389

canopfor on February 6, 2013 at 10:18 AM

Postmaster General Patrick Donahoe: Since 2000 USPS has reduced 306,000 jobs with no layoffs – broadcast

1 min ago by editor

USPS plan to end Saturday mail deliveries

USPS Postmaster General on legality: ‘It’s our opinion we can make this change…our customers expect us to do the right thing’ – broadcast

3 mins ago by editor

canopfor on February 6, 2013 at 10:19 AM

Same cost, less service. It’s the Federal government way.

Mr. Arrogant on February 6, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Mitoch55 on February 6, 2013 at 8:58 AM

I have gotten deliveries from Fed Ex on Saturday. When I expressed my surprise, the driver told me that they have a division that delivers on Saturday and those drivers have Sunday and Monday off. I don’t know if it is strictly a Christmas deal or all year around.

Cindy Munford on February 6, 2013 at 10:24 AM

Got another great USPS story.

We have property where we are planning to retire. It is 1/4 mile from a river which is the county line. The post office in the town we are nearest is across the river and won’t deliver across the county line or the river.

The next post office is fifteen miles away the other direction and they will deliver to near our property and neighbors, in fact one mile away. Paved, county road, but they will not deliver all the way to the river and county line but stop one mile away.

Our neighbors all had to get post office boxes.

Someone please explain that to me because I have a sore spot on my forehead from banging my head on the desk….

Tenwheeler on February 6, 2013 at 10:24 AM

USPS Postmaster General on legality: ‘It’s our opinion we can make this change…our customers expect us to do the right thing’ – broadcast

He’ll just DEEM it legal.

Tenwheeler on February 6, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Aren’t they salaried? Most government employees aren’t hourly, are they?

[Mitoch55 on February 6, 2013 at 9:38 AM

I was looking stuff up to see what kind of spending losses will result. One website noted that city carriers are hourly while rural are a type of salary. Wages run in the $46k to $54k range. One site noted there are 56,000 carriers out of total workforce of 546,000. There are about 44,000 zip codes.

I’d be interested in the details of how they’ll incorporate the manpower reduction of 8 hours out of a 48 hour operational week for deliveries. Most of the losers will be the newbies. Knocking off 8 hours of work per week translates into a spending loss about $7,500 per zip code. Not a big deal in the scheme of things, I suppose, but still it’s a downward push on the economy.

Dusty on February 6, 2013 at 10:26 AM

JetBoy on February 6, 2013 at 9:59 AM

We have received several on line purchases that have started out UPS or Fed Ex but were given to local post office for final delivery.

Cindy Munford on February 6, 2013 at 10:26 AM

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