Krauthammer to GOP: Let the sequester roll

posted at 12:41 pm on February 6, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Good advice from Charles Krauthammer — and not just because I’ve been making the same argument for weeks.  Barack Obama demanded more tax hikes along with a delay in the sequester cuts yesterday, which Krauthammer could hardly believe. Why bother?  If the House Republicans do nothing, they get significant cuts in spending for free:

[I]t is unbelievable that [Obama] would offer the Republicans a deal with extra tax increases as part of a deal. Republicans will do nothing and they should do nothing. And if the president wants to avoid this, ‘you do the cuts, but do them without tax increases.’

Actually, if the President wants to avoid this, he just needs to tell the Senate to work on the bills already presented to them by the House.  The lower chamber has already passed bills that replace the sequester with better cuts. The only holdup in this process is Harry Reid, who doesn’t want to govern through normal order, and who wants a replay of fiscal-cliff crises of the past two-plus years.

Ah, but the shoe is on the other foot.  As Peter Orszag pointed out a month ago, the permanent resolution of the tax hikes and the AMT took all the leverage away from Democrats in this fight.  “It’s entirely possible,” the former OMB director said at the time, “they’re going to win the week and lose the quarter.”  With the debt ceiling punted to May, the only issue on the table now is spending.  Republicans have switched positions with Obama, and now all they have to do is sit for their preferred outcome to materialize.  And even better, this time the issue is the real issue, and not side issues like the debt ceiling and “fairness.”


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Boehner, you Fool, look in the mirror.

Schadenfreude on February 6, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Krauthammer, nor anyone else, should never assume that the Rs are actually smart.

I hate them more than Obama.

Schadenfreude on February 6, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Cantor is an even bigger azzhole than Boehner, if tha’s possible.

Schadenfreude on February 6, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Let It Burn.

cdog0613 on February 6, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Close thread. I think the above covers what anyone else would say. :)

ThePrez on February 6, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Republicans will do nothing and they should do nothing.

LOL. Republicans will give the Democrats everything they want – Republicans love big government as much as Democrats.

albill on February 6, 2013 at 12:48 PM

There must be some the Republicans can give away their advantage.

Curtiss on February 6, 2013 at 12:50 PM

The Democrats can just rename it “The Cliff of Death” and their media can ask the helpful question: “Will Republicans push our seniors and children off the cliff of death?”. The Republicans would fold in a second. The word “Sequester” has no propaganda value.

Buddahpundit on February 6, 2013 at 12:50 PM

There must be some the Republicans can give away their advantage.

Curtiss on February 6, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Some way.

Curtiss on February 6, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Obama wanted to postpone all this, until after the election.

Now he owns it. Period.

Let him swim or sink, the batard Punk.

Schadenfreude on February 6, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Exactly why we need Christie/Baldwin in 2016.

bloggless on February 6, 2013 at 12:53 PM

So how many Republicans in the House will it take to bugger this one up??

dddave on February 6, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Hey Lucy! Get that football ready!

Here comes good ol’ Charlie (GOP) Brown!

Bruno Strozek on February 6, 2013 at 12:55 PM

the fact the Dims haven’t budged one millimeter, after already getting their precious class warfare tax raises that were going to solve anything

I had assumed they would counter with sequester cuts coming 100% from the defense budgets, but to demand more tax increases at this point shows how unserious these people are

They assumed we would blink on the defense cuts in the sequester– good on them for calling their bluff

L.I.B.

thurman on February 6, 2013 at 12:55 PM

I hate them more than Obama.

Schadenfreude on February 6, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Ditto that.

tencole on February 6, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Boehner: Sequester Should Be Replaced With Spending Cuts
David Taintor 11:13 AM EST, Tuesday February 5, 2013
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House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) on Tuesday responded to reports that President Obama will seek a short-term fix to avoid the sequester. In a statement, Boehner said:
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“President Obama first proposed the sequester and insisted it become law. Republicans have twice voted to replace these arbitrary cuts with common-sense cuts and reforms that protect our national defense. We believe there is a better way to reduce the deficit, but Americans do not support sacrificing real spending cuts for more tax hikes. The president’s sequester should be replaced with spending cuts and reforms that will start us on the path to balancing the budget in 10 years.”
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http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/boehner-sequester-should-be-replaced-with-spending-cuts

canopfor on February 6, 2013 at 11:20 AM

canopfor on February 6, 2013 at 12:55 PM

2nd that prez

Spot on

cmsinaz on February 6, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Exactly why we need Christie/Baldwin in 2016.

bloggless on February 6, 2013 at 12:53 PM

bloggless:Caught that image,yesterday,wth,is up with that scarf that
hangs to the floor,..oy!:)

canopfor on February 6, 2013 at 12:58 PM

There must be some the Republicans can give away their advantage.

Curtiss on February 6, 2013 at 12:50 PM

They may be the party of stupid but they are determined. I bet they work tirelessly until they find a way.

If not the MSM will find one for them. They’re helpful like that.

Lily on February 6, 2013 at 12:58 PM

The media seems to focus on the DOD reductions, aren’t there reductions in other areas also?

Cindy Munford on February 6, 2013 at 1:04 PM

I agree with Dr. Kraut. But GOP defense hawks are already whining: Oh God, its the end of the military as we know it. Lets see if the GOP has the courage to back up their rhetoric and screaming: Cut Spending. Well GOP, balls in your court now. Just don’t lift a finger (sequestration is automatic), and you’d have backed up your own rhetoric.

tommy71 on February 6, 2013 at 1:05 PM

The GOP has some exposure here, though, because of the fact that $492 billion out of the $1.2 trillion in sequestration cuts are in defense. Defense is GOP territory–military voters trend Republican, and military bases and defense contractors are disproportionately located in red/purple states and congressional districts.

Obama has already hurt the GOP with military voters. In 2012, military voter turnout was the lowest it’s been in over a decade. And it happens that the battleground states with lots of military voters (VA, FL, CO) all fell to Obama.

Slash and burn defense and you risk further alienating these voters.

Outlander on February 6, 2013 at 1:05 PM

And even better, this time the issue is the real issue, and not side issues like the debt ceiling and “fairness.”

The House GOP is living a Tea Party fantasy divorced from the realities of the federal budget. No one is today victimized by federal income tax rates, not even the upper class. Yes, spending is undoubtedly too high and must be cut, esp. entitlements. But as I’ve learned from others on Hotair, historical tax rates in the US are around 18.5% of GDP. Under Clinton that number exceeded 20% of GDP at one point. Yet today tax revenue relative to GDP remains at historic lows. Even with Clinton era spending, the budget is doomed.

http://www.businessinsider.com/history-of-tax-rates
http://www.businessinsider.com/gundlach-presentation-dollars-cents-2011-9#-8

Think it ain’t fair, that your taxes are too high? Compare the US to Germany and other Western democracies where tax rates exceed 40% of GDP. The greatest generation paid significantly higher taxes to build this nation’s infrastructure and finance great wars. May your whining subside.

You can’t hold taxes at today’s level and balance the budget, not with a bloated military that extends military welfare to all of western Europe and other nations entirely capable of paying for their own defense. You have to face the reality that even with entitlement cuts, the population is skewed toward an older demographic for the next 20 years (a temporary, not a permanent situation). Taxes have to go up on everyone, matched by real spending cuts.

bayam on February 6, 2013 at 1:06 PM

GOP should tell Obama “we get the sequester for free”

Mark1971 on February 6, 2013 at 1:06 PM

OMB Report Pursuant to the
Sequestration Transparency Act of 2012
(P. L. 112–155
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Introduction
The Sequestration Transparency Act of 2012 (STA) (P.L. 112-155) requires the President to submit to Congress a report on the potential sequestration triggered by the failure of the ᆳᆳᆳᆳᆳᆳduce the deficit by $1.2 trillion, as required by the Budget Control Act of 2011 (BCA).ᆳᆳᆳᆳᆳᆳᆳtions required by the STA. The report provides Congress with a breakdown of exempt and non-exempt budget accounts, an estimate of the funding reductions that would be required across non-exempt accounts, an explanation of the calculations in the report, and additional information on the potential implementation of the sequestration.
(394 Pages)
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/assets/legislative_reports/stareport.pdf

canopfor on February 6, 2013 at 1:06 PM

The first step is the SRM shifting responsibility for the sequester from the Obama Campaign entirely to “Congressional Republicans”

Next, everything from the recession to job cuts to every military fatality and injury will be blamed on the draconian Republican sequester. Two quarters of negative growth? “Republican sequester/Republican recession”. Job losses in Virginia? “Republican sequester/republican recession”.

“And how dare Republicans do all of that war mongering and then cut off the funds to the military?”

It’ll be one of the most disgusting propaganda frenzies to date.

forest on February 6, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Defense Cuts Caused By Sequestration Would Devastate America’s National Security

Under Sequestration, $500 Billion Would Be Cut From Defense Spending Over The Next Decade. “Both Republicans and Democrats want to avoid sequestration. President Obama said flatly during the presidential debates that it would not happen. In addition to the Pentagon cuts of $500 billion over 10 years, sequestration includes an across-the-board domestic discretionary spending cut of the same size.” [The Hill, 1/6/13]

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta Testified To Congress That Sequestration “Guarantees That We Are Going To Hollow The Force And Devastate Our National Security.” DEFENSE SECRETARY LEON PANETTA: “And let me tell you something if sequester goes into effect, you can throw all of this out the window. Sequester doubles the numbers of cuts, does it through that crazy formula, and guarantees that we are going to hollow the force and devastate our national security.” [Secretary Leon Panetta, Testimony, 2/16/12]

Panetta: “It’s Not Something, Frankly, That Anybody Who Is Responsible Ought To Put Into Effect.” “It’s a nutty formula, and it’s goofy to begin with, and it’s not something, frankly, that anybody who is responsible ought to put into effect.” [Secretary Leon Panetta, Testimony, 2/28/12]

Under Sequestration Funding For The War In Afghanistan, Operations In The Persian Gulf, As Well As “Training Programs, Equipment Maintenance And Military Benefits” Would Be Cut. “Sequestration compounds the damage because the cuts would be automatic and indiscriminate. The Pentagon now concedes that funding for the war in Afghanistan would be hit, contrary to past assurances. So would current operations in the Persian Gulf. Training programs, equipment maintenance and military benefits are affected too. Defense contractor Lockheed Martin says the law obliges it to send layoff warnings as soon as October to most of its 123,000 workers…” [The Wall Street Journal, 7/20/12]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303567704577519103629692144.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_AboveLEFTTop
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http://www.americansforastrongdefense.com/defense-cuts-caused-by-sequestration-would-devastate-americas-national-security/

canopfor on February 6, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Regardless the media will portray the ‘Pubs as heartless obstructionists and wring their hands and wail over ‘austerity’.

ghostwalker1 on February 6, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Slash and burn defense and you risk further alienating these voters.

Outlander on February 6, 2013 at 1:05 PM

If you’re afraid of alienating voters over spending cuts you will never cut spending. There will always be groups that want to maintain their goodies. The alternative to not alienating voters is a debt crisis.

Mark1971 on February 6, 2013 at 1:09 PM

**Alert ***

House passes Require a PLAN Act to force President Obama to estimate when the federal budget will balance – @thehill

3 mins ago from thehill.com by editor
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House votes 253-167 to require balanced budget date from Obama
By Pete Kasperowicz – 02/06/13 12:02 PM ET
******************************************

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/281431-house-votes-to-require-balanced-budget-from-obama

canopfor on February 6, 2013 at 1:11 PM

$1 Trillion is a tiny drop in the bucket. Boehner should reply back to The One with $10 Trillion more in proposed cuts and say, they can start negotiating from there.

Oh wait, sorry I nodded off there for a second, must have been dreaming.

The real Boehner will likely cave, give The One everything he wants and then bend over and take the blame from the media like a good Republican stooge. Back to reality.

Meople on February 6, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Obama & the Libs play politics like it is a game – there is ALWAYS a winner & a loser. Republicans keep playing politics for love of country & being responsible. Americans have proven mass stupidity – but they still get winner & losers. The Republicans don’t need to re-brand- they need to play the game with Liberal rules. This is a done deal. Whatever happens with the sequester, it will all be the Republicans fault

drivingtheview on February 6, 2013 at 1:12 PM

They may be the party of stupid but they are determined. I bet they work tirelessly until they find a way.

If not the MSM will find one for them. They’re helpful like that.

Lily on February 6, 2013 at 12:58 PM

True. The MSM could simply declare that Obama has the advantage here, and the GOP, unable to persuade anyone otherwise, would be forced to concede. Simple.

Curtiss on February 6, 2013 at 1:13 PM

It’s all one topic today.

Schadenfreude on February 6, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Think it ain’t fair, that your taxes are too high? Compare the US to Germany and other Western democracies where tax rates exceed 40% of GDP. The greatest generation paid significantly higher taxes to build this nation’s infrastructure and finance great wars. May your whining subside.
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bayam on February 6, 2013 at 1:06 PM

I don’t think those charts support your claim that the WWII generation paid significantly higher taxes. They show me that total tax revenues over time have been pretty stable as a percent of GDP. Remember that while we had high tax rates back in the old days, there were hundreds of huge tax loopholes that resulted in lower effective tax rates.

And as for Europe, between income tax and VAT, they take probably 60-65% of Europeans’ money. Their restrictive land use policies and confiscatory gas taxes artifically inflate their real estate prices. A lot of good it did them; pretty sure most of Europe is flat broke.

Outlander on February 6, 2013 at 1:18 PM

The media seems to focus on the DOD reductions, aren’t there reductions in other areas also?

Cindy Munford on February 6, 2013 at 1:04 PM

The total sequestration cuts this year is $85 billion. It’s a small percentage of total annual federal spending. I think the defense portion is around $50 billion. It’s not the end of the world.

Curtiss on February 6, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Obama & the Libs play politics like it is a game – there is ALWAYS a winner & a loser. Republicans keep playing politics for love of country & being responsible. Americans have proven mass stupidity – but they still get winner & losers. The Republicans don’t need to re-brand- they need to play the game with Liberal rules. This is a done deal. Whatever happens with the sequester, it will all be the Republicans fault

drivingtheview on February 6, 2013 at 1:12 PM

The problem is the dealer is working with The One to make sure he wins and stacking the deck at the same time.

The only way the Repubes have any chance at all of ever winning with the new American Moron Voter is to refuse to play the game at all. They need to push away from the table and for once in their lives, make Obama own it. If the Repubes aren’t even in the same room the Socialist media can’t blame them for what The One is doing.

But they won’t do that. They’ll just keep bending over and taking it from The One and Socialist media.

The Republican party is doomed, along with the rest of the country.

The only way to win is to not play the game.

Meople on February 6, 2013 at 1:20 PM

If you’re afraid of alienating voters over spending cuts you will never cut spending. There will always be groups that want to maintain their goodies. The alternative to not alienating voters is a debt crisis.

Mark1971 on February 6, 2013 at 1:09 PM

I agree that every part of the budget must be cut. But sequestration guts defense while leaving all the lefty welfare spending and entitlements mostly intact. Compare the impact of sequestration across budget categories for yourself.

Outlander on February 6, 2013 at 1:21 PM

No one is today victimized by federal income tax rates, not even the upper class

In the last year, I have had virtually NO extra cash for discretionary spending. This year, along with the return to the 6.2% payroll tax that bites back into my income, the $882 additional that the Feds are going to get this year, and the additional $80 I have to pay this year to the tax-crazed liberal politicians of Buncombe County, NC, plus all the other fun taxes that are lurking about out there, I just wonder where that money is going to come from….

Unaffected you say? Proves just how ignorant you lib types truly are.

Turtle317 on February 6, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Curtiss on February 6, 2013 at 1:18 PM

I know. The Husband use to work for DOD and they would get orders to cut cost by a percentage without the ability to reduce employment, they managed just fine. The only reason we can’t cut spending is that DC doesn’t want to. Cuts down payback to cronies and contributors, but I repeat myself.

Cindy Munford on February 6, 2013 at 1:27 PM

You can’t hold taxes at today’s level and balance the budget, not with a bloated military that extends military welfare to all of western Europe and other nations entirely capable of paying for their own defense. You have to face the reality that even with entitlement cuts, the population is skewed toward an older demographic for the next 20 years (a temporary, not a permanent situation). Taxes have to go up on everyone, matched by real spending cuts.

bayam on February 6, 2013 at 1:06 PM

You’re living in some kind of fantasy world. You simply can’t raise enough revenue to cover current much less projected spending. Obama has borrowed over a trillion dollars every year and with amnesty on the horizon it will only get worse.

The only way back to fiscal sanity is to cut spending … drastically. Gut the government and gut entitlements. People should learn to supprot themselves. Having everything provided to people produces ZERO incentive to be responsible for oneself. It’s absolutely ridiculous that people work only to have the fruits of their labor go to supporting others who have no interest in supporting themselves.

Anyway, the entire thing is unsustainable.

darwin on February 6, 2013 at 1:30 PM

bayam on February 6, 2013 at 1:06 PM

You know my tax rate really isn’t the issue, it is what they spend it on. No budget, no cushion, just ballz to the wall spending. That is not an equation for success and I don’t think comparing us to Germany is a great move. We are not them and don’t want to be.

Cindy Munford on February 6, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Next thing that goes *boom* is all on 0bama. He was the one who placed so much of the DOD in the sequester’s crosshairs.

Sekhmet on February 6, 2013 at 1:30 PM

GOP should tell Obama “we get the sequester for free”

Mark1971 on February 6, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Yes. He made this bed. Now let him lie in it.

petefrt on February 6, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Gut the government and gut entitlements.

Agreed. It is going to hurt, but that is preferable over the alternative.

Turtle317 on February 6, 2013 at 1:33 PM

@Cindy Bingo! Very true. Not just defense, but various other departments get the cut. But since the pentagon has the biggest loudspeaker, we hear only from them. No department likes cuts. And they’ll always whine that its the end of the world, but once its through, they’ll streamline their priorities accordingly.

tommy71 on February 6, 2013 at 1:35 PM

You can’t hold taxes at today’s level and balance the budget, not with a bloated military that extends military welfare to all of western Europe and other nations entirely capable of paying for their own defense. You have to face the reality that even with entitlement cuts, the population is skewed toward an older demographic for the next 20 years (a temporary, not a permanent situation). Taxes have to go up on everyone, matched by real spending cuts.

bayam on February 6, 2013 at 1:06 PM

So cut spending.

Chuck Schick on February 6, 2013 at 1:35 PM

You can’t hold taxes at today’s level and balance the budget, not with a bloated military that extends military welfare to all of western Europe and other nations entirely capable of paying for their own defense.

bayam

Liar.

xblade on February 6, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Compare the US to Germany and other Western democracies where tax rates exceed 40% of GDP.

bayam on February 6, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Apparently you are under the delusion that paying more in taxes is a good thing. We don’t care how much other countries pay in taxes, we want less taxes and overall burden from the government.

I’m guessing you can’t pass this simple test.

How much of the money do you earn should you be able to keep?

LoganSix on February 6, 2013 at 1:42 PM

The House GOP is living a Tea Party fantasy divorced from the realities of the federal budget.

bayam on February 6, 2013 at 1:06 PM

I know you love the sound of your own voice, but even you have to realize the sheer stupidity of your own statement, right? How is the House GOP divorced from the realities of the federal budget, when they’re the only ones who have put together an actual budget?!?!?!

dominigan on February 6, 2013 at 1:46 PM

Compare the US to Germany and other Western democracies where tax rates exceed 40% of GDP.

bayam on February 6, 2013 at 1:06 PM

And please explain this apples to oranges comparison… how can you compare a tax rate, measured in percent, against a GDP which is an actual amount?

dominigan on February 6, 2013 at 1:48 PM

…Repubicans… can fluke up a wet dream!

KOOLAID2 on February 6, 2013 at 1:48 PM

The House GOP is living a Tea Party fantasy divorced from the realities of the federal budget. No one is today victimized by federal income tax rates, not even the upper class. Yes, spending is undoubtedly too high and must be cut, esp. entitlements. But as I’ve learned from others on Hotair, historical tax rates in the US are around 18.5% of GDP. Under Clinton that number exceeded 20% of GDP at one point. Yet today tax revenue relative to GDP remains at historic lows. Even with Clinton era spending, the budget is doomed.

http://www.businessinsider.com/history-of-tax-rates
http://www.businessinsider.com/gundlach-presentation-dollars-cents-2011-9#-8

bayam on February 6, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Now overlay your two charts and you will see that the 40′s and 50′s where top tax rates were in the 90′s, taxes collected were on average below the post-Reagan years where top tax rates were between 28 and 40.

Chuck Schick on February 6, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Oops!!

The Hill ‏@thehill

Hoyer slams GOP for working on ‘message bills,’ not sequester http://j.mp/Xou7MG by @PeteKTheHill
=====================================

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/281469-hoyer-slams-gop-for-working-on-message-bills-not-sequester#ixzz2K96FgrhO

canopfor on February 6, 2013 at 1:50 PM

Let it roll – we can’t continue to spend like this. You big government “conservatives” are going to have to accept the fact that we have to reduce all spending.

MoreLiberty on February 6, 2013 at 1:50 PM

Compare the US to Germany and other Western democracies where tax rates exceed 40% of GDP.

bayam on February 6, 2013 at 1:06 PM

If I read your demented liberal brain correctly, your actually trying to compare tax REVENUE to GDP as a percent of GDP. You could easily see more tax revenue by LOWERING TAXES, but that would require liberals to abandon their failed ideology in favor of reality. After all, the Bush tax cuts increased tax revenues by 40% over the following 3 years… but that doesn’t mesh with liberal ideology (so its ignored). If you still don’t understand the concept how lowering tax rates can increase tax revenue, Google the term “laffer curve” and educate yourself…

dominigan on February 6, 2013 at 1:52 PM

They will cave, they are republicans, they wanna grow government as much as democrats do. They just pretend to be the party of limited government.
The party of limited constituional government has always been and always will be the the libertarian party.
Republicrats go away.

paulsur on February 6, 2013 at 1:53 PM

The only holdup in this process is Harry Reid,

Oh, that’s right. The guy who hasn’t passed a budget in 4 years.

GarandFan on February 6, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Hey, Ed, off topic but this is bugging the darn! out of me and I figure you’re just the guy to ask and get a straight answer.

Why have we allowed liberals to tell us what to call them?

They’re only progressive in the sense of progress toward insolvency and eventually moving the entire U.S. population into government-designated communes so we can all plant and share the annual cauliflower crop.

Even the punditry has bought into the shell game. What happened to the good ole’ “tax and spend Democrat” and the rightly-titled “liberal” and “left-wing looney bird?” They sure look, walk and talk just like what they tell me are now “progressives.”

Are we afraid to use the word?

IndieDogg on February 6, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Even as we speak, Boehner is having an intense negotiating session with himself. And it’s not going well for the GOP.

justltl on February 6, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Compare the US to Germany and other Western democracies where tax rates exceed 40% of GDP.

bayam on February 6, 2013 at 1:06 PM

What’s Germany’s debt to GDP ratio?
What’s Germany’s deficit to GDP ratio?
What’s Germany’s umemployment rate?

I’m sure “minor details” such as Germanies unwed mother% and food stamp rate as well as crime and murder rates also “escape you”.

Please get back to work you unelected, job for life, bureacrat that has “seperate but equal” lifetime pension and medical insurance. I’m sure there is some productive person or business you can hassle or extort some money from.

acyl72 on February 6, 2013 at 1:59 PM

IndieDogg on February 6, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Maybe “Lying Turds” is under copyright or something.

justltl on February 6, 2013 at 2:01 PM

I hate them more than Obama.

Schadenfreude on February 6, 2013 at 12:45 PM

I’m coming around to your position on the GOP.

Mr. Arrogant on February 6, 2013 at 2:05 PM

NOW we’ll see what the GOP is made of, and if they turn squishy, then F ‘em. No more votes from me. No mo’ money, no mo’ support, no mo’ nutting’

HiJack on February 6, 2013 at 2:05 PM

****Alert ****

US officials: Budget strains force Pentagon to cut carriers in Persian Gulf from 2 to 1 – @AP

5 mins ago by editor

canopfor on February 6, 2013 at 2:08 PM

BONUS: We get to sit back and watch Barack Obama scream about all the jobs at risk from cuts in defense spending! Who knew he was such a hawk?? :-D

rockmom on February 6, 2013 at 2:11 PM

You can’t hold taxes at today’s level and balance the budget, not with a bloated military that extends military welfare to all of western Europe and other nations entirely capable of paying for their own defense. You have to face the reality that even with entitlement cuts, the population is skewed toward an older demographic for the next 20 years (a temporary, not a permanent situation). Taxes have to go up on everyone, matched by real spending cuts.

bayam on February 6, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Military welfare=BAD!
Any other kind of welfare=GOOD!

or something.

search4truth on February 6, 2013 at 2:15 PM

canopfor on February 6, 2013 at 2:08 PM

I do think at some point you have deployed enough carriers.

Lily on February 6, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Think it ain’t fair, that your taxes are too high? Compare the US to Germany and other Western democracies where tax rates exceed 40% of GDP. The greatest generation paid significantly higher taxes to build this nation’s infrastructure and finance great wars. May your whining subside.

You can’t hold taxes at today’s level and balance the budget, not with a bloated military that extends military welfare to all of western Europe and other nations entirely capable of paying for their own defense. You have to face the reality that even with entitlement cuts, the population is skewed toward an older demographic for the next 20 years (a temporary, not a permanent situation)…

bayam on February 6, 2013 at 1:06 PM

While I agree with the second paragraph, the former is nonsense.

America vs “Western Democracies” is blather, always has been. Only one or two have our population or geography size. That was the whole point of the EU for chrissakes. Germany is not our equal, nor the UK, France, Italy, Spain, etc…

As the FDR/WW2, FDR kept the country in a perpetual state of disarray because of his constant tax hikes to keep his makework projects going. Truman lowered them as did Ike. It wasn’t until rates went down did we have the halcyon days of the 50′s.

Lower rates, manageable debt equal the good days. Not high, unstable tax rates, spiraling debt.

budfox on February 6, 2013 at 2:21 PM

Actually, if the President wants to avoid this, he just needs to tell the Senate to work on the bills already presented to them by the House. The lower chamber has already passed bills that replace the sequester with better cuts.

This. The worst thing you can do is negotiate against yourself, especially when the other side is dealing in bad faith. At this point, the House and Senate GOP should just aggressively dig their heels in: We’ve passed budgets. Democrats have passed nothing except spending increases and tax hikes. We’ve done our job. Harry Reid isn’t doing his job. We can’t negotiate with empty chairs.

And just repeat those things over and over again. Make it the response to every attack they make until it sinks in. Keep it simple and keep saying it.

RadClown on February 6, 2013 at 2:25 PM

Obama and Boehner seem to have switched places for this round.

J_Crater on February 6, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Cantor is an even bigger azzhole than Boehner, if tha’s possible.

Schadenfreude on February 6, 2013 at 12:45 PM

It is. And he is. By far.

besser tot als rot on February 6, 2013 at 2:30 PM

canopfor on February 6, 2013 at 2:08 PM

I do think at some point you have deployed enough carriers.

Lily on February 6, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Lily:As long as they can effectively carry out strike missions,
if need be!:)

canopfor on February 6, 2013 at 2:33 PM

BONUS: We get to sit back and watch Barack Obama scream about all the jobs at risk from cuts in defense spending! Who knew he was such a hawk?? :-D

rockmom on February 6, 2013 at 2:11 PM

Yeah, he really needs to give back that Nobel Peace Prize.

ProfShadow on February 6, 2013 at 2:40 PM

I agree with Krauthammer, but they have to get their messaging down pat on this because the lying media is going to say it’s their fault, their idea, and if the economy goes wrong don’t blame Democrats. The Democrats did this on purpose so they could get their way on the budget, since they figured the Republicans would cave, and who could blame them.

If they’re going to cave anyway, they need to just cave and shut up. If they’ve miraculously grown a spine, then let it happen and tell el Presidente and the Democrats that the budget will solve all of this and let them submit a budget.

bflat879 on February 6, 2013 at 2:44 PM

canopfor on February 6, 2013 at 2:33 PM

Looking on the bright side, at least they probably won’t be deploying carriers against American citizens any time soon…so there is that.

Lily on February 6, 2013 at 2:54 PM

The Republicans

should

do nothing, but we all know they’ll give Obama tax hikes as soon as the MSM starts trotting out sob stories on the nightly news and telling everyone how “mean” and “extreme” the GOP is being by allowing the sequester to take place – even though the idea originated in the Obama White House.

DRayRaven on February 6, 2013 at 3:17 PM

Compare the US to Germany and other Western democracies where tax rates exceed 40% of GDP.

bayam on February 6, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Dude, you just punched yourself out.

itsspideyman on February 6, 2013 at 3:20 PM

Way to go TEA Party representatives! Now if we can just keep Boehnor and the other GOP insiders from frackin this up…

DannoJyd on February 6, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Turtle, I agree with you. We have no extra money either. When my husband lost his job we lost half of our income. We are only surviving because of my husband’s military retirement and help from relatives that we would rather not have to take. Our children are the only ones in their schools who don’t have ipods, smart phones, etc. because we can’t afford it. I hate cooking but I cook every night now. We buy nothing except gas and groceries and our childrens’ prescriptions.

sherrimae on February 6, 2013 at 4:47 PM

The only military that obama supports is his Game-Boy with Predator missiles…choom coming home to you! I wonder how many bong hits he has to do after Valerie lets him execute someone.

trl on February 6, 2013 at 6:28 PM

Although I agree that the GOP should do nothing,don’t be surprised if Obama does nothing as well.He will then blame the republicans for failing to stop the sequester,painting them not only as heartless,but also willing to decimate the military.Panetta is already touting a cut in military pay.Between this and a push for amnesty,the GOP’s natural base may not show up again in 2014.

redware on February 6, 2013 at 6:57 PM