Sebelius: ObamaCare is the law of the land, so you might as well help us implement it

posted at 1:21 pm on February 5, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Or, in other words: Just give in already to the power of the all-knowing and all-powerful bureaucracy. Trust us.

Last June, the Supreme Court ruled that ObamaCare’s Medicaid mandate (requiring that states expand their programs and provide specified health care to all citizens whose income falls below a certain threshold, or else face losing all prior federal funding) was an unconstitutional “gun to the head” for states’ administrations and budgets, and confirmed their right to opt out without penalty — but that doesn’t mean the Obama administration isn’t applying every type of political pressure and fiscal inducement they can to coerce states into getting on board. As HHS Secretary Sebelius noted yesterday,

President Obama’s health care law is “here to stay,” but cannot fulfill its promise if states do not expand Medicaid and the uninsured do not take advantage of the benefits designed to put coverage within reach of millions more Americans, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said Monday.

Addressing the National Health Policy Conference in downtown Washington, Mrs. Sebelius said the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 remains the “law of the land” after the Supreme Court upheld its key provisions in June and Mr. Obama won re-election in November, but several moving parts must sync up before the reforms can be fully effective.

“So my challenge to all of you today, and actually my plea to all of you … is help us speed up the rate of change,” she said.

Ten GOP-led states have already rejected the Obama administration’s bribe to pick up 100 percent of the Medicaid expansion’s tab for the first three years before eventually scaling down to 90 percent by the end of the decade, but twenty other states are still undecided. The red states that have decided to expand Medicaid include New Mexico, North Dakota, Nevada, and Arizona (for which the WSJ has a good explanation of the carrot-and-stick strategy being deployed by the Obama administration). On Monday, Gov. John Kasich of Ohio announced that he would become the fifth Republican governor to give in to the pressure, to the ire of many conservatives:

Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R), who opposed President Barack Obama’s health care reform law, wants to take advantage of Obamacare funding to expand his state’s Medicaid program to more poor people, he announced in his budget proposal Monday.

Kasich is now the fifth GOP governor to back the Medicaid expansion, joining Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer and fellow GOP leaders in Nevada, New Mexico and North Dakota in agreeing to a key component of Obama’s efforts to extend health coverage to as many as 17 million people through Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program over a decade. Including Ohio, the chief executives of 20 states and the District of Columbia are now on board with the Medicaid expansion. …

“We are going to extend Medicaid for the working poor and for those who are jobless trying to find work,” Kasich said at a news conference in Columbus Monday that was broadcast online. “It makes great sense for the state of Ohio because it will allow us to provide greater care with our own dollars.”

As Philip Klein points out in light of the Ohio governor’s decision, it’s getting even harder to stay afloat in a big-government ocean trying to drown you into submission:

Whatever justifications Kasich may give, the actual explanation for his embrace of the Medicaid expansion is political cowardice. Chastened by his failed attempt at public sector union reform and Obama’s victory in the state, Kasich is up for reelection next year. And he’s afraid to stand up to the inevitable onslaught of attacks from Democrats who would charge that he was refusing to accept free money to bring health care to poor Ohioans. The end result is that a politician who ran for office claiming to have been “in the Tea Party before there was a Tea Party” is now actively embracing a policy that the Tea Party movement was born to oppose.

This should serve as a sober reminder to conservatives that no matter how big of a disaster Obamacare is when it’s implemented in 2014, the nation is almost certainly stuck with it. More broadly, it’s a demonstration of how difficult it is to defeat big government.

A feat made especially difficult when said big government is blithely glossing over wherever it is all of this new money is supposed to come from while also steadfastly refusing to acknowledge that our entitlement spending is absolutely the main culprit behind our $16 trillion debt and neglecting to correct the populist impression that ObamaCare is going to provide “free healthcare.” What a nightmare.


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That’s what you think.

Ward Cleaver on February 5, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Prohibition was the law of the land….and then it wasn’t.

BobMbx on February 5, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Slavery was the law of the land, too.

Ward Cleaver on February 5, 2013 at 1:22 PM

“It makes great sense for the state of Ohio because it will allow us to provide greater care with our own dollars.”

For 3 years, because the Fed will cover every dollar of cost. Then that stops.

Keep his quote handy. We’ll be re-visiting it in about 3-4 years.

BobMbx on February 5, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Get ready to say, “Governor elect Ed Fitzgerald” when the Lakewood Democrat humiliates Kasich in the 2014 elections next year (after all conservatives stay home in protest).

Thanks, Bill Cunningham. Thanks for nothing.

Myron Falwell on February 5, 2013 at 1:24 PM

That decision is above your paygrade Sebelius.

txmomof6 on February 5, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Just give in already to the power of the all-knowing and all-powerful bureaucracy. Trust us.

Come to the Dark Side!

pilamaye on February 5, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Aetna’s CEO said some policies will double.

Another insurance broker said they would triple.

ObamaCare is going down one way or another. They can beat the GOP but they can’t beat math.

Chuck Schick on February 5, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Or what? You’ll order up a drone strike on us?

michaelo on February 5, 2013 at 1:25 PM

These people don’t really believe in the Rule Of Law, then they presume to lecture us about it with ObamaCare?

The gull of these people shocks me everyday.

BigGator5 on February 5, 2013 at 1:25 PM

The GOP has no balls……. they are too afraid of liberals calling them names! God help us all, these people are destroying the Republic and shredding the Constitution, yet our reeeepriiiiiseeeentatives, bend over and smile.

ultracon on February 5, 2013 at 1:26 PM

This WOULD NOT have been the law of the land if that slug roberts hadn’t ruled it was!

I pray to goodness Perry won’t cave as other states have!
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letget on February 5, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Slavery was the law of the land once, so was “separate but equal.” Screw this sk@nk.

MoreLiberty on February 5, 2013 at 1:27 PM

ObamaCare is going down one way or another. They can beat the GOP but they can’t beat math.

Chuck Schick on February 5, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Not when a whole generation was raised to ignore pesky things like math… among other things…

Myron Falwell on February 5, 2013 at 1:27 PM

“to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions (is) a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy.”
- Thomas Jefferson

CanofSand on February 5, 2013 at 1:27 PM

In the good old days, people like Sebelius were burned at the stake.

Ward Cleaver on February 5, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Put Kunte18 in charge of implementing it. People will revolt 100x sooner.

MelonCollie on February 5, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Kiss my a$$, bitca.

totherightofthem on February 5, 2013 at 1:28 PM

“So my challenge to all of you today, and actually my plea to all of you … is help us speed up the rate of change economic collapse,” she said.

Fixed.

RadClown on February 5, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Or what? You’ll order up a drone strike on us?

michaelo on February 5, 2013 at 1:25 PM

With the under-30 crowd (misidentified as “low-info voters”) they will simply drag you out of your house and lynch you, by order of Obama and Sebellius.

They really are all tools for which the Socialists can use to force people to comply. See Berlin in 1937.

Myron Falwell on February 5, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Yo Kathleen, if it’s so d@mn wonderful:
1) Why did Obama hand out so many exemptions (especially to his buds)?
2) Why aren’t YOU going to forego YOUR tax-payer funded health care for Obamacare?

When Kathleen gives up her own program for Obamacare I will ‘give in to the dark side’…In the meantime, I want to see the Supreme Court hear the case about it violating religious freedom/rights. Issuing another ‘Obama Waiver’ doesn’t change the fact that insisting medical facilities run by religious institutions hand out free ABORTION-INDUCING DRUGS is a VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTION!

easyt65 on February 5, 2013 at 1:31 PM

They really are all tools for which the Socialists can use to force people to comply. See Berlin in 1937.

Myron Falwell on February 5, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Mao’s Little Red Book comes to mind also.

Little bastards running around rattin’ out their parents.

Thats where we’re going.

BobMbx on February 5, 2013 at 1:33 PM

In the good old days, people like Sebelius were burned at the stake.

Ward Cleaver on February 5, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Or excommunicated by the Catholic Church on charges of heresy.

Myron Falwell on February 5, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Surprise! The American people don’t want this.
Get over it.

kingsjester on February 5, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Drone strike in 5….4…..3

cmsinaz on February 5, 2013 at 1:34 PM

The Iron Curtain was “here to stay” too until one day the whole thing just fell down like the house of cards it was. ObamaCare won’t be exactly like that – it’s not as well designed as your average house of cards.

Marxism is for dummies on February 5, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Frau Sebelius is not amused by your insolence.

Stu Gotts on February 5, 2013 at 1:34 PM

But we WANT it implemented to hasten the destruction of the country! Don’t forget Obama was re-elected even with some of the most self-proclaimed “Conservatives” in our midst here on HotAir. Who weren’t dare going to vote RINO.

Marcus on February 5, 2013 at 1:34 PM

$20,000 a year for a minimum policy for a family of five says not for long. That has yet to kick in. Now actively shutting down coal power plants. Free stuff won’t last to long with that.

CW20 on February 5, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Mao’s Little Red Book comes to mind also.

Little bastards running around rattin’ out their parents.

Thats where we’re going.

BobMbx on February 5, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Book on it. We cannot stop it from happening, but at least we know that’s how the US will ultimately fail.

Enjoy whatever remains of our freedom while it withers away on the vine.

Our representative republic is effectively dead. Thanks for the memories.

Myron Falwell on February 5, 2013 at 1:35 PM

“GOV. PERRY: Well, I’m not sure Obamacare is going to be successful. And one of the reasons I’m not sure it’s going to be successful is because the exchanges are not going to work. And the exchanges are not going to work because states are wise enough not to go into a relationship when you don’t know what the rules are. You don’t know what the cost is going to be.

So any governor who would sign on the dotted line to go into this exchange at this particular point in time, and they’re mandated by Washington. The rules are mandated. The idea that you’ve got a state instituted exchange, but it has to be federally approved. So the fact is the federal government’s going to have to run these. And they don’t have the expertise, nor do they have the money.

So on its face, Obamacare may fail because they don’t have the expertise nor the money. And they’re trying to push this off on the states. And I think wise governors and wise legislatures will say, “No, thank you.” Medicaid is a broken system. And the idea that we would expand and put more money and more people into a broken system is not unlike putting another 1,000 people on the Titanic. You know how this is going to turn out. And it’s going to be a disaster.

Well, the answer is block granting. I mean it’s simple that, again, states are different. They’re laboratories of innovation. Giving the states the opportunity to innovate, to put in the programs that best serve their citizens in the way their citizens would rather be addressed on a health care side is substantially a wiser way to go.

So I’m not holding my breath that the federal government is going to block-grant dollars back to the states. So with that given, we’re going to try to put as many personal responsibility programs into place where people have options. And we can control the cost of health care in our state. So it’s a very disruptive time. But I look at it as a time of great opportunity.

So ideas that will be tried in Louisiana. Bobby Jindal, one of the brightest innovators in the country. Rick Scott over in Florida, who spent his lifetime in health care. And a host of other governors, hopefully Democrat and Republican governors, will put ideas forward, put concepts forward, try them out in their states. And if they look like they would transfer over to your state, pick them up, give them a try.

Will states be able to turn down Obamacare’s federal dollars?

ROY: Can you follow what Utah’s done with trying to create a free market oriented health care exchange, do you think that’s something that’s a viable alternative to Obamacare?

GOV. PERRY: Well, you know, I’m a big believer in the 10th Amendment that states should have the right to innovate. Again, that should be Utah’s right to put that into place. And is it right for everyone? I’m not at a juncture where I can say yes or no. But what I do believe is that it is their sovereign right to innovate, to try different approaches that best suit their citizenry.

ROY: One thing that you did, and you looked into with the Texas legislature a few years back, was withdrawing from Medicaid all together. And you decided not to, because the amount of federal money that was being plowed into the state, getting rid of that and then trying to make up with that by raising taxes at the state level was just too great.

GOV. PERRY: Right.

ROY: Do you worry that something similar will happen with Obamacare that now, today, you can say, “Well, we’re not going to implement Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion, the exchanges, and what not,” but eventually, whether it’s you or some future governor, they’ll have no choice because all that Texas federal tax money is going to other states instead of coming back to Texas?

GOV. PERRY: Yeah. Well certainly, we took a look at it. And I think, you know, leadership is about asking a lot of difficult questions. You may find the answer isn’t something that’s acceptable or wasn’t what you thought it was going to be, or is not in the best interest of your citizens. But, you know, asking the question [is important].

And, you know, we took a serious look at it. And we send a lot of money to Washington, D.C. But here’s the bigger issue for me as a citizen of the United States is that the program is there, putting it forward. I mean this isn’t free money. It’s our money. And we’re either going to print money and devalue the dollars that are in your pocket, or we’re going to borrow that money from China, on a program that we know is not sustainable.

And I hope governors and legislators and citizens across this country will stand firm and say, “What are we doing? Why are we continuing to dig this hole, to further put our country in debt and future generations in debt?” And hopefully that in the future there will be a deconstruction of this piece of legislation and put things into place that actually work: Block granting, you know, moving policies across borders and allowing insurance to be purchased in other states.

Or, as we laid out some years ago, the concept of maybe there’s a bi-national type of insurance approach with, you know, the huge amount of interaction between the United States and Mexico, or the United States and Canada. I’m not saying that’s a correct answer. But I think it’s that type of innovative conversation that governors, leaders, should be having with their citizens, and with citizens of other states.

Obamacare is ‘the law of the land’ but it can be tweaked

ROY: Yeah, I think people should definitely look at that bi-national health care plan that you looked at in Texas. Because it’s a very interesting model that probably more states along the border should consider.

Other than block grants, and other than repealing Obamacare, which is obviously a little more difficult today than it was, say, a year ago, what do you think are the two or three things that Congress could do to make it easier for Texas to make its health care system better?

GOV. PERRY: Well obviously, being able to free these states from one-size-fits-all. And again, I know that’s a rather sweeping statement. And Obamacare is, in fact, now the law of the land. But that’s not to say that we can’t tweak that piece of legislation as we go forward. And we’re going to find out that there are parts of it that don’t work. There are going to be parts of it that do work.

And so the most important thing, I would suggest, that Congress can do is to be open-minded about, “Listen, when you identify, or when the states identify something that’s just not going to work, something that’s going to cost, don’t have such pride of authorship that you’re afraid to back out of something. Go ahead, work with the governors.”

I would suggest that the most important thing that the current administration and Congress can do is to really bring the governors in and ask their opinions, work with them. That was not done. When Obamacare was being drafted, I was the head of the Republican Governors Association. I don’t recall any serious efforts to bring governors in to say, “How is this going to impact the states? How can we partner and come up with solutions to these challenges that we have?”

And the most important thing, not that, you know, all the brilliance in the world does not reside with governors. But they truly have a lot of experience. When you look at the numbers of years of experience that Democrat and Republican governors have in being chief executive officers of their state, there’s a lot of experience there. There’s a lot of real world experience that I think Congress could be well served, this administration could be well served, in finding the solutions to these challenges that we have in health care.

GOP message on health care should emphasize access and cost

ROY: I’m going to ask you one politics question. So the Republicans just had this drubbing in 2012. Mitt Romney, of course, lost. In 2016, what do you think the Republicans health care message should be? We’ll have the end of Obama’s second term. Republicans will obviously be looking to have a national health care agenda, along with what to do at the state level. What do you think that agenda should be?

GOV. PERRY: Let me share with you just one. The Republican governors actually added to their numbers. They were the only Republican group out there that had a successful night. And I happened to think that, from a citizens standpoint, their governors, and the people who are the chief executives of their state, are where there’s a higher level of trust between them in Washington D.C. or the federal elected officials.

So governors are going to be where Americans look. There’s 30 of the 50 governors now that are Republican. So the Republican message on health care is going to be one of access. It’s going to be one of efficiency from the standpoint of cost.

And you’ve got some great examples of that across the country. Again, I go back to what Rick Scott’s doing in Florida, what Bobby Jindal’s doing in Louisiana, what we’re doing in Texas. I mean governors who truly have not only experience, but are implementing programs that are making health care more affordable, more accessible. And that’s what people care about.

So I think that the message in 2016 is going to be, “Look at what people who truly have the responsibility for delivering services, whether it’s education or transportation infrastructure, or power, or health care. Who are the people that are really doing it? And who are the people that are being successful?” And the message in 2016 is going to be, “It’s Republican governors that are truly making America work better, health care being in one of those areas…”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2012/12/08/how-red-states-wrestle-with-obamacare-the-forbes-interview-with-texas-gov-rick-perry/

workingclass artist on February 5, 2013 at 1:36 PM

This is not a good Tuesday so far. With Kasich caving in to political pressures as well.

Still, let us soldier on.

22044 on February 5, 2013 at 1:37 PM

How did you include New Mexico and Nevada as Red states?

GruntDoc on February 5, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Marcus on February 5, 2013 at 1:34 PM

A lot of Conservatives voted for McCain and Romney, because we had no choice.

The reality is, that they were lousy candidates, and ran lousy campaigns.

kingsjester on February 5, 2013 at 1:37 PM

When you get down to it, Obamacare is Medicaid for all. It guts Medicare to the point where it will be rationed, it expands Medicaid to the middle class and it makes private insurance so expensive that upper middle class can’t afford it.

So instead of calling it Obamacare, call it what it is: Medicaid for all. A program for poor Americans because Obamerica is a nation of poor people.

GOP should start calling it “Fedicaid”. The suburban housewives will shudder…

monalisa on February 5, 2013 at 1:38 PM

NO!

Go to HELL, Sebelius, you low life commie witch.

dogsoldier on February 5, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Sebelius: ObamaCare is the law

Since when did the law ever matter.

Law for thee, but not for me?

petefrt on February 5, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Little bastards running around rattin’ out their parents.

Thats where we’re going.

BobMbx on February 5, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Possible benefit of homeschooling is that there’s a smaller chance of state-centric indoctrination.

freedomfirst on February 5, 2013 at 1:39 PM

dogsoldier on February 5, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Nicely put.

kingsjester on February 5, 2013 at 1:39 PM

How did you include New Mexico and Nevada as Red states?

GruntDoc on February 5, 2013 at 1:37 PM

I don’t consider them Red states, but the context suggests they are considered as such because they have Republican governors.

22044 on February 5, 2013 at 1:39 PM

The Iron Curtain was “here to stay” too until one day the whole thing just fell down like the house of cards it was. ObamaCare won’t be exactly like that – it’s not as well designed as your average house of cards.

Marxism is for dummies on February 5, 2013 at 1:34 PM

What will inevitably replace it will be either Chinese communism or an Islamofacist state.

That is, if we’re lucky to see this fail in our lifetime. Nothing implemented during the course of the progressive movement’s intentional destruction of the US has EVER been repealed.

Myron Falwell on February 5, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Florida gov Scott is tettering on the edge .
If he caves in I suspect there will be a few
conservatives that won’t vote for him .
Can you say Charlie Crisp ? Yuck

Lucano on February 5, 2013 at 1:40 PM

We better hurry and ban guns before the citizens start getting ideas about freedom.

SirGawain on February 5, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Pull the money plug, its only national collapse.

Speakup on February 5, 2013 at 1:40 PM

+1 petefrt @1:39

Spot on

cmsinaz on February 5, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Possible benefit of homeschooling is that there’s a smaller chance of state-centric indoctrination.

freedomfirst on February 5, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Unfortunately, an estranged friend-turned-enemy of mine WAS homeschooled, and STILL wound up worshipping at the alter of Obama (to the point that, even though I’ve refused to speak to her since November, she still angers me on a daily basis).

I wish I never knew her in any way.

Myron Falwell on February 5, 2013 at 1:43 PM

If the majority of the states refuse the exchanges, what will Scooter and his minions do?

kingsjester on February 5, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Or excommunicated by the Catholic Church on charges of heresy.

Myron Falwell on February 5, 2013 at 1:33 PM

She’s already excommunicated herself, and every time she receives Holy Communion unworthily she’s bringing eternal condemnation upon herself.

Ward Cleaver on February 5, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Dependency.

Depend on your new masters Americans.

Depend on them for:

Your healthcare

Your wi-fi

Your cellphone service

Your Transportation (driverless cars that are just controlled from the Transit office…….ask Google about this)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-tech/post/fcc-super-wifi-proposal-prompts-fierce-lobbying-from-tech-telecom-firms/2013/02/04/e9e6ab78-6ee5-11e2-ac36-3d8d9dcaa2e2_blog.html


Your physical protection (See new Chicago police policy about responding OR NOT to various calls for help).

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/3/chicago-police-respond-lesser-crimes-phone/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS

PappyD61 on February 5, 2013 at 1:44 PM

A lot of Conservatives voted for McCain and Romney, because we had no choice.

The reality is, that they were lousy candidates, and ran lousy campaigns.

kingsjester on February 5, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Yeah and a lot of “Conservatives” here voted for Obama or didn’t vote at all because it’s either my candidate or they throw a big stink bomb. As Rush has said time and time again, Democrats don’t do that on election days. Never have.

Marcus on February 5, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Madame Defarge.

rrpjr on February 5, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Go pound sand.

Philly on February 5, 2013 at 1:45 PM

cmsinaz on February 5, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Here’s what I really wanted to say:

Go to HELL, Sebelius, you low life commie witch.

dogsoldier on February 5, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Sounds like Sibelius has been taking lessons from Obama on how to throw sand in our eyes. The best response is throw it right back.

petefrt on February 5, 2013 at 1:47 PM

As Rush has said time and time again, Democrats don’t do that on election days. Never have.

Marcus on February 5, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Besides Honda, name the Conservatives here who voted for The Manchurian President, please. Oh, and Honda claimes to be a Libertarian.

kingsjester on February 5, 2013 at 1:48 PM

…..and maybe soon we’ll all be DEPENDENT on the Feds for our FOOD.

http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/usda/usdahome?navid=FOOD_SECURITY

Learn more about USDA’s work in Global Food Security in this fact sheet which documents some of our most significant accomplishments of the past three years. To read about more of our results, visit http://www.usda.gov/results.

Food Security Measurement
USDA developed household food security measures to empower local communities to assess their food security levels and incorporate their results into the national nutrition monitoring system, providing a rich data source for analyzing changes in the level and distribution of food security in the United States.

Measuring Household Food Security
Food Security Measurement Reports

I want my free food MERICA!

PappyD61 on February 5, 2013 at 1:48 PM

The regime must have photo’s of Kasich(Tool-OH) in a compromising position with an underage child. Kind of like they have on Roberts.

Mr. Arrogant on February 5, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Gov. Perry of Texas will likely end up on Obama’s Drone Strike list.

workingclass artist on February 5, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Or excommunicated by the Catholic Church on charges of heresy.

Myron Falwell on February 5, 2013 at 1:33 PM

She’s already excommunicated herself, and every time she receives Holy Communion unworthily she’s bringing eternal condemnation upon herself.

Ward Cleaver on February 5, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Agreed…She compounds the sin.

She and others like her are likely headed to Hell.

workingclass artist on February 5, 2013 at 1:50 PM

These people are like a highly evolved flesh-eating bacteria that seeks out healthy tissue to devour and destroy. Anything that works, that helps people prosper, that empowers individuals with freedom and opportunity, that resonates with moral values and tradition, they will find and destroy. Their scourge is unstoppable, and apparently undiagnosable and untreatable.

rrpjr on February 5, 2013 at 1:50 PM

Myron Falwell on February 5, 2013 at 1:43 PM

I’ll redouble my efforts to teach my children well.
My 11 year old is a rational child and sees faulty “reasoning” in leftist dogma. Retired special ops guys I know tell me my 3 year old will be a Ranger. Haha!

freedomfirst on February 5, 2013 at 1:51 PM

workingclass artist on February 5, 2013 at 1:48 PM

I agree! Perry, IMO, hates bho more than bho hates Perry/TX!
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letget on February 5, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Yeah and a lot of “Conservatives” here voted for Obama or didn’t vote at all because it’s either my candidate or they throw a big stink bomb. As Rush has said time and time again, Democrats don’t do that on election days. Never have.

Marcus on February 5, 2013 at 1:44 PM

But Democrats never nominate conservatives. They have had an ideological purity test for decades. Those who don’t comply are forced to (see Kucinich magically becoming pro-Choice when he humiliated himself on a national scale ran for President in 2004. Or Algore. Or Lieberman in 2000.

Therefore, the Dems don’t need to appease any part of their voting block out of threats of ‘sitting out’ to ‘prove a point.’

Myron Falwell on February 5, 2013 at 1:52 PM

What we really need is a National Civilian Security Force that’s bigger than the U.S. Military.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fO-usAlqak

THAT would truly transform our backwards country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXYAPcoE4H0

But who would propose such a forward looking thing? Who has the vision for that?

PappyD61 on February 5, 2013 at 1:52 PM

letget on February 5, 2013 at 1:51 PM

10th Amendment!

workingclass artist on February 5, 2013 at 1:53 PM

Myron Falwell on February 5, 2013 at 1:43 PM

I’ll redouble my efforts to teach my children well.
My 11 year old is a rational child and sees faulty “reasoning” in leftist dogma. Retired special ops guys I know tell me my 3 year old will be a Ranger. Haha!

freedomfirst on February 5, 2013 at 1:51 PM

God bless you and your family. :)

Myron Falwell on February 5, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Agreed…She compounds the sin.

She and others like her are likely headed to Hell.

workingclass artist on February 5, 2013 at 1:50 PM

If only we weren’t forced to travel together in the same handbasket.

Lily on February 5, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Whatever justifications Kasich may give, the actual explanation for his embrace of the Medicaid expansion is political cowardice.

Betrayed by another one. There are hardly any real men left, just eunuchs.

Sebelius, Nurse Ratched, can go to Hades.

Schadenfreude on February 5, 2013 at 1:54 PM

They put a gun to our heads, then demand we help pull the trigger. Only in Obamaland does this idea seem reasonable and hunky-dorey.

The low-brow people who think this is okay today are going to be in for some rude surprises down the line.

Liam on February 5, 2013 at 1:55 PM

See comments in here – you are being scroomed, over and over and over by your gov’t.

Schadenfreude on February 5, 2013 at 1:55 PM

It will collapse under its own weight. Even the leftists are starting to realize what a bad deal 0-care is.

Bmore on February 5, 2013 at 1:56 PM

It will collapse under its own weight. Even the leftists are starting to realize what a bad deal 0-care is.

Bmore on February 5, 2013 at 1:56 PM

NO, it will end up a poorer form of the British NHS.

Schadenfreude on February 5, 2013 at 1:57 PM

It will collapse under its own weight. Even the leftists are starting to realize what a bad deal 0-care is.

Bmore on February 5, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Hopefully, this is true.
The cynic in me asks “who will get blamed?”

freedomfirst on February 5, 2013 at 1:58 PM

I will not go gladly into the night.

Skywise on February 5, 2013 at 1:59 PM

Schadenfreude on February 5, 2013 at 1:57 PM

Perhaps, it will have to do so without any support from me. ; )

Bmore on February 5, 2013 at 1:59 PM

Agreed…She compounds the sin.

She and others like her are likely headed to Hell.

workingclass artist on February 5, 2013 at 1:50 PM

If only we weren’t forced to travel together in the same handbasket.

Lily on February 5, 2013 at 1:54 PM

These Machiavellian Pagans can create their Hell on Earth…

I know different.

HELL is Forever

I will not jeopardize my immortal soul to appease this Nero.

workingclass artist on February 5, 2013 at 1:59 PM

… says the authoritarian b1tch that as Kansas Governor TWICE vetoed CCW legislation passed in her state. The second time she got overridden. So go to hell Sebelius.

rayra on February 5, 2013 at 2:00 PM

freedomfirst on February 5, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Why the American people will take the burden of blame. They wanted this, they got it, the bill is coming due. We deserve the government we elect. Or not.

Bmore on February 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM

The Iron Curtain was “here to stay” too until one day the whole thing just fell down like the house of cards it was. ObamaCare won’t be exactly like that – it’s not as well designed as your average house of cards.

Marxism is for dummies on February 5, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Remember that the Iron Curtain fell because their leadership insisted on trying to have all the fancy military gadgets that we had. If they’d contented themselves with being ~10 years behind in technology but having the numerical advantage, we’d still be building bomb shelters.

Shabby buildings can stand up a remarkably long time If the USA goes and stays “Iron”, who’ll challenge us to break the system? China?

As Rush has said time and time again, Democrats don’t do that on election days. Never have.

Marcus on February 5, 2013 at 1:44 PM

As Rush has failed to notice time and time again, Democrats don’t fight over voting for lousy candidates because all their candidates are lousy. RINOs at best, outright Marxist traitors at best. That’s like complaining about a family-oriented theater not wanting to show an R-rated movie when its competition shows nothing but XXX-rated movies day and night.

Conservatives are refusing to vote for the sucktastic candidates they get presented because conservatives actually have moral standards to hold to.

MelonCollie on February 5, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Sebelius….isn’t that a rash or something.

BobMbx on February 5, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Bmore on February 5, 2013 at 1:59 PM

+1

Schadenfreude on February 5, 2013 at 2:04 PM

President Obama’s health care law is “here to stay,” but cannot fulfill its promise if states do not expand Medicaid

TRANSLATION: The issue is still in doubt as to whether Obamacare is ‘here to stay’.

On another note, Kalifornia is going to spend $100 MILLION + on implementing ‘health care advisers’. Wonder where Moonbeam is going to get that money?

GarandFan on February 5, 2013 at 2:04 PM

The RINO infested elitist GOP never intended to stop this, merely pose as opposition in order to share the spoils of the ruling parties. There has never been a greater hoax than the two party pretense–aided by those useful idiots in the GOP who say…”but the other guys will win.”

The GOP is but a Trojan Horse systematically blocking the passing lane to true opposition–(the tea party/Palin etc.)

Don L on February 5, 2013 at 2:04 PM

ObamaCare is going down one way or another. They can beat the GOP but they can’t beat math.

Chuck Schick on February 5, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Not when a whole generation was raised to ignore pesky things like math… among other things…

Myron Falwell on February 5, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Math can force reality. It doesn’t matter if you don’t know how it works.

INC on February 5, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Wonder where Moonbeam is going to get that money?

GarandFan on February 5, 2013 at 2:04 PM

From Oama, who steals it from you.

Schadenfreude on February 5, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Math can force reality. It doesn’t matter if you don’t know how it works.

INC on February 5, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Reality is that the majority in the land are harlots on the dole.

Schadenfreude on February 5, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Wonder where Moonbeam is going to get that money?

Propose a 85% tax on anyone making 200K or more in the state but the hollywood bunch?
L

letget on February 5, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Possible benefit of homeschooling is that there’s a smaller chance of state-centric indoctrination.

freedomfirst on February 5, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Unfortunately, an estranged friend-turned-enemy of mine WAS homeschooled, and STILL wound up worshipping at the alter of Obama (to the point that, even though I’ve refused to speak to her since November, she still angers me on a daily basis).

I wish I never knew her in any way.

Myron Falwell on February 5, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Myron, there are some homeschoolers who are not conservatives. They simply want to be in charge of their children, even though that’s a disconnect with their political philosophy.

My kids were homeschooled—they’re now conservative young adults—as are their friends.

INC on February 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Bmore on February 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Well said.

freedomfirst on February 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM

The baby Dr. Thread is funny.

Bmore on February 5, 2013 at 2:09 PM

The baby Dr. Thread is funny.

Bmore on February 5, 2013 at 2:09 PM

If you consider pedophilia and poop jokes funny, I suppose.

MelonCollie on February 5, 2013 at 2:12 PM

INC on February 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Good observation about non-conservative homeschoolers. We introduced a family to homeschooling that views all others as stupid, religious, unwashed, uneducated, unsophisticated dolts. They consider themselves the exception because they are doing it for their child who can’t cope with social environments. They think we’re doing it because we’re wackos. It may be true that we’re wackos, but our reason is that the public schools fall way short of meeting our children’s needs. We feel blessed to be able to homeschool and don’t think any less of those who don’t.

freedomfirst on February 5, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Nullification. Do it.

crrr6 on February 5, 2013 at 2:14 PM

It’s the law of the land until it isn’t.

JellyToast on February 5, 2013 at 2:15 PM

I wouldn’t characterize New Mexico as a “red” state. A weird state, yes… but not a red state just because they elected a Republican governor. The Roundhouse is still controlled by democrats who are susceptible to attacks of rank stupidity as they attempt to emulate DC progressives. Since New Mexico is heavily dependent upon government contracts, they are also very vulnerable to arm twisting, threats and intimidation by this administration.

Wendya on February 5, 2013 at 2:16 PM

F U You white witch!

jawkneemusic on February 5, 2013 at 2:20 PM

INC on February 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Unfortunately, I won’t know as to how she was homeschooled, as her mother passed away eight years ago. All I can do is make educated guesses (and I have a feeling they will probably turn out to be correct).

You are correct. Parental backgrounds do make a difference.

Myron Falwell on February 5, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Four more years of War is Peace, Ignorance is Strength and Slavery is Freedom.

jawkneemusic on February 5, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Good Read at Powerline

“Republicans see Democrats as mistaken. Democrats see Republicans — whatever their individual intentions and behaviors—as enemies of the just and the good. Republicans have no parallel belief that drives them and their agendas, and no similar cause to despise and hate their opponents.

If Democrats’ priority was fixing government problems would they have failed to produce a budget for four straight years? If Democrats were pragmatic politicians, when they came to power in the face of a national crisis like the 2008 financial collapse, their first step would have been to seek bipartisan support to fix the most pressing problems: jobs and reviving the economy. This is exactly what Obama promised during the campaign and is one of the reasons why he was elected. But this was just a campaign promise and is not what he did. He spent his first two years in office pushing a massive new entitlement program. If Obama and the Democrats were interested in addressing the immediate economic crisis they would not have used their monopoly of power to pursue a trillion dollar new social program opposed by half the nation and by every Republican in Congress.

The reason the Democrats made Obamacare their priority is because they are social missionaries whose goal is to “fundamentally transform” the United States of America, as Obama warned five days before the 2008 election. Creating a massive new government program that would absorb one-sixth of the economy and make every American dependent on government for his or her health care was the true order of their business. This was a program they saw as a major stepping-stone on the way to the fundamental transformation of American society.

That’s the way progressives think and Republicans had better start understanding just what that means. Progressives are not in politics to tinker with the existing system, although they understand that tinkering and fixing problems along the way gets votes. They are in politics to achieve “social justice” – to transform the system and the way Americans live.

Why do progressives not see that the future they are promoting – with its socialist “solutions” – has already failed elsewhere, and particularly in Europe? Because in their eyes the future is an idea that hasn’t been tried. If socialism has failed in Europe it’s because they weren’t in charge to implement it and there wasn’t enough money to fund it….”

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/02/david-horowitz-how-republicans-can-win.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+powerlineblog%2Flivefeed+%28Power+Line%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

workingclass artist on February 5, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Four more years of War is Peace, Ignorance is Strength and Slavery is Freedom.

jawkneemusic on February 5, 2013 at 2:22 PM

And Hispanics are whites from Europe.

-JFKY

(I couldn’t make this up if I tried, folks)

MelonCollie on February 5, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Charlatanry in world healthcare rankings

By SALLY C. PIPES
The federally chartered Institute of Medicine issued a comprehensive report last month on the state of American health. Saying that “Other high-income countries outrank the United States on most measures of health,” the report concluded that the U.S. “is among the wealthiest nations in the world, but it is far from the healthiest.”

To fix this state of affairs, the authors called on America’s leaders to consider “policies that countries with superior health status have found useful and that might be adapted for the United States.” But the institute’s report doesn’t tell the whole story. Its key measurements aren’t directly related to the quality of American health care. In truth, health care in the U.S. continues to be the envy of the world.

The study looked at 13 developed countries in Europe, along with Australia, Japan, Canada and the U.S. It found that Americans suffer from higher rates of several diseases—including HIV/AIDS, heart disease and diabetes—and rank near the bottom in some common measurements of public health. Consider life expectancy. The U.S. was ranked last for men—with an average 75.64 years, compared with 79.33 in top-ranked Switzerland—and second-to-last for women—at 80.68 years, compared with 85.98 in top-ranked Japan.

Schadenfreude on February 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM

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