Obama: I think the Boy Scouts should admit gay members

posted at 9:31 am on February 4, 2013 by Allahpundit

Not surprising but still newsworthy given that he is, after all, the BSA’s honorary president and because I’m not sure we’d have gotten as unequivocal a statement from him a year ago, before he “evolved” on gay marriage. No doubt he would have supported gay scouts even then, but there might have been a “private organizations are free to do as they wish” caveat tacked on in the interest of hedging. When he first took office, there was some grumbling on the left encouraging him to decline the group’s honorary presidency because it doesn’t admit gays and atheists. He ignored that, no doubt because he already knew from his “I oppose gay marriage” charade that gays would forgive him nearly anything in the interest of ultimate liberal victory. Then he caught flak from the right in 2010 when he didn’t attend the BSA’s 100th anniversary celebration, opting to send a video message instead. That’s classic hedging, choosing to keep his distance from the group physically to please his base while offering his congrats to please everyone else. But now that he’s embraced gay marriage, why hedge?

This is also newsworthy because I think it’s a rare case lately of O doing more good than harm for his cause by weighing in. Passing gun control was going to be hard enough for Democrats before Obama took the lead on it and gave Republicans more reason to oppose it. Same with immigration; Dems were so worried about The One turning Senate negotiations toxic by offering his own bill that they begged him privately not to do it. In the case of the BSA, though, Obama’s already proved he can move opinion among social cons in his own base towards greater acceptance of gays. If you’re a Democrat who’s opposed to letting your kid join a BSA unit that includes gays, this might make you think twice. If you’re Republican who’s opposed to letting your kid join a BSA unit that includes gays, who cares what Obama thinks? It’s a net gain for gays to have O’s endorsement.


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hillsoftx on February 4, 2013 at 9:33 AM

Nice to see he’s lasered in on jobs and the deficit.

Doughboy on February 4, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Talking about jobs and the economy? Naah…

22044 on February 4, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Barry thinks he’s finally going to be allowed to be a scout. But still, the Glitter Fairies would be more appropriate for the limp wristed.

Flange on February 4, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Is Obama just saying here that this is the only problem facing the country that he has any interest in solving?

earlgrey133 on February 4, 2013 at 9:37 AM

I think the Black Congressional Caucus should admit white members.

Bishop on February 4, 2013 at 9:38 AM

Is Obama just saying here that this is the only problem facing the country that he has any interest in solving?

earlgrey133 on February 4, 2013 at 9:37 AM

That, and concussions in the NFL.

Washington Nearsider on February 4, 2013 at 9:38 AM

Boy Scouts should start admitting girls. I am sure that will make tent camping immensely more popular.

Archivarix on February 4, 2013 at 9:40 AM

No time for jobs or the economy. Too busy with the Boy Scouts.

petefrt on February 4, 2013 at 9:40 AM

I’m glad my boys were in scouts before this was shoved down the BSA’s throats. Everyone was outraged when the Catholic church didn’t do enough to prevent child sexual abuse and yet the BSA are blasted for trying preventing child abuse.

My head hurts…

Agent of the Cross on February 4, 2013 at 9:40 AM

That was such a hard-hitting interview. I half-expected it to go the GoDaddy ad route midway through.

changer1701 on February 4, 2013 at 9:41 AM

“… in fact, up at Camp David, we do boy scouting all the time.”

Fallon on February 4, 2013 at 9:43 AM

Surely there must come a point where this clown runs out of ancillary stupid distractions. who the F cares what he thinks about this topic? That said I fully expect him to focus on expanded use of replay in baseball next with this sycophant media not holding him accountable for anything.

gsherin on February 4, 2013 at 9:43 AM

Is Obama just saying here that this is the only problem facing the country that he has any interest in solving?

earlgrey133 on February 4, 2013 at 9:37 AM

We’re dealing with someone who truly believes that ramming through a bunch of executive orders and 2000+ page legislation that no one’s read has fixed all of what ails this nation. If you believe certain House Republicans who’ve spoken with him behind closed doors, he thinks that Obamacare fixed the health care system and solved the deficit and that we no longer have a spending problem. 30 years ago, someone like this would be in a straitjacket.

Doughboy on February 4, 2013 at 9:43 AM

Who cares . . . this poor sick country is so far down the tube that it’s senseless to try to delay its total collapse and ultimate demise.

rplat on February 4, 2013 at 9:43 AM

myself and pResident Obama are both homosexual men. The difference between us is that i am not butthurt over not being included in the boy scouts and i’m also not looking to destroy this country’s institutions and traditions.

YOU’RE WELCOME.

GhoulAid on February 4, 2013 at 9:44 AM

Obama willingly and laughingly ignores and repudiates the Constitution so it’s not much of a surprise that he has no reverence for the Boy Scout Principles and Oath.

HotAirian on February 4, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Do we have to hear Dear Leader’s opinions on EVERYTHING? Of course we do, he’s the benevolent malevolent god-king.

wildcat72 on February 4, 2013 at 9:47 AM

So gay … obama gets more gay by the day.

Pork-Chop on February 4, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Obama willingly and laughingly ignores and repudiates the Constitution so it’s not much of a surprise that he has no reverence for the Boy Scout Principles and Oath.

HotAirian on February 4, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Yeah, the Boy Scout oath resembles that oath to the Constitution Soetoro loathes so much.

wildcat72 on February 4, 2013 at 9:48 AM

Obama’s already proved he can move opinion among social cons in his own base towards greater acceptance of gays

.

Talk about a throw away line. Can anybody name a socially conservative democrat?

DanMan on February 4, 2013 at 9:48 AM

I think Dear leader should STFU and go shoot some skeets, with Dick Cheney.

Dingbat63 on February 4, 2013 at 9:49 AM

Dear ALLAHPUNDIT:

You are forgetting that the whole purpose of the left/progressive agenda is TO CONTROL YOU. They feel they have the power, and the issue is irrelevant. That is why there is contradictor in their agenda – like support gay rights against (generally) Christian conservatives but also support fundamentalist Islam who views on gay are more violent than any Christians. Same with “women’s rights”. It is because they have the power through media, culture, schools, and now the government to control you.

The issue is irrelevant. They want to change the boy scouts because they have the power – not because they really support the issue. Because it is a power issue – not a social issue – people have to fight back for this intrusion in personal liberty and rights. The BSA is a private organization and let them decide without government weighing in. Obama is acting tyrannical with the use of his power again.

kpm01428 on February 4, 2013 at 9:49 AM

The leadership of the Boy Scouts are concerned about one thing,money.If their numbers start to drop because of this they deserve it.

docflash on February 4, 2013 at 9:50 AM

‘What does it matter to you if gay people get married?’
becomes
‘What does it matter if a gay guys take you sons camping?’
becomes…

Read Iron John… It explains a lot… about Obama too.
-

RalphyBoy on February 4, 2013 at 9:51 AM

It’s funny that he cares so much about the Boy Scouts now because he blew them off at the 2010 Jamboree when he was honorary president in order to sit on the couch and chill with the ladies of The View

blammm on February 4, 2013 at 9:52 AM

I think the Black Congressional Caucus should admit white members.

Bishop on February 4, 2013 at 9:38 AM

I’m pretty sure Rep Steven Cohen(D-TN) is in the Black Congressional Caucus.

thuja on February 4, 2013 at 9:52 AM

I believe the biggest thing of all the scatter-shot opining during the alleged “interview” yesterday is the fact that Ojesus all but said that he’s not even close to being finished with his “soak the rich and then everyone else” tax schemes.

All of the malarkey about “making football safe” and the rest is trivial BS, which admittedly is about all were going to get from Dear Leader.

hillbillyjim on February 4, 2013 at 9:53 AM

Well I feel the Congressional Black Caucus is a Racist organization and should admit White members if they apply.

Bulletchaser on February 4, 2013 at 9:53 AM

Well, maybe he should just send down another directive from his lofty perch as KING and make them. /sarc

Murf76 on February 4, 2013 at 9:54 AM

I think the Black Congressional Caucus should admit white members.

Bishop on February 4, 2013 at 9:38 AM

And maybe some English Lit majors should fly Air Force One on Bambi’s next trip.

freedomfirst on February 4, 2013 at 9:54 AM

Obama went beyond gay stuff. He said, “Nobody should be barred” from Scouting.

Now probably he didn’t exactly mean that. But it is an absurd thing to say when one thinks about it for more than 5 seconds.

WannabeAnglican on February 4, 2013 at 9:55 AM

Still stinging over being rejected for membership?

acyl72 on February 4, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Scout Leader Barry.

Jeddite on February 4, 2013 at 9:56 AM

So gay … obama gets more gay by the day.

Pork-Chop on February 4, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Well, he throws like a girl, shoots like a girl …

TXUS on February 4, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Boy Scouts should start admitting girls. I am sure that will make tent camping immensely more popular.
Archivarix on February 4, 2013 at 9:40 AM

I met some pretty cute Girl Scout leaders – think there’s any chance that Otraitor will come out in favor of adultery?

turfmann on February 4, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Archivarix on February 4, 2013 at 9:40 AM

Makes sense-since the GSA already admits boys…

annoyinglittletwerp on February 4, 2013 at 9:57 AM

How’s that unemployment problem coming along, Mr. President?

Good Lt on February 4, 2013 at 9:57 AM

For crying out loud, doesn’t he ever shutup??

qestout on February 4, 2013 at 9:57 AM

I can hardly wait to see the photoshopped picture of him receiving his Eagle Scout award on the skeet shooting range. Maybe they can crop in Liberace giving it to him….so to speak.

NoPain on February 4, 2013 at 9:58 AM

For crying out loud, doesn’t he ever shutup??

qestout on February 4, 2013 at 9:57 AM

Hell, he probably pontificates in his sleep as well.

The only thing worse than a know-it-all is a know-it-all with a megaphone.

hillbillyjim on February 4, 2013 at 10:00 AM

As a gay/ or bisexual nationalist-conservative I have mixed feelings about this issue. I don’t think its right to have overtly flamboyant people in the boy scouts, but I do not see a problem if it is kept to themselves. Honestly

BrianVII on February 4, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Is there any part of our lives this miserable man will not butt into?

Somebody put up MKH’s video ‘Obama on my shoulder’ again.

Socratease on February 4, 2013 at 10:01 AM

Scout Leader Barry.

Jeddite on February 4, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Never, ever would I let my son go camping with someone like Barry!

poppieseeds on February 4, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Boy Scouts should start admitting girls. I am sure that will make tent camping immensely more popular.

Archivarix on February 4, 2013 at 9:40 AM

They already do. Girls that meet the requirements can join. The rules they have for “tent camping” likely preclude what you have in mind.

Gunlock Bill on February 4, 2013 at 10:04 AM

As a gay/ or bisexual nationalist-conservative I have mixed feelings about this issue. I don’t think its right to have overtly flamboyant people in the boy scouts, but I do not see a problem if it is kept to themselves. Honestly

BrianVII on February 4, 2013 at 10:00 AM

My opinion on this matter aside, I’ve just had it with this dolt weighing in on so many aspects of our private life. Next he’ll be pushing for some law or EO requiring people use their left hand to wipe their @$$.

freedomfirst on February 4, 2013 at 10:05 AM

funny how barky throws someone’s male child to the wolves.

have your daughters live with rosie o’donnell for a couple of months there big guy. personally i’d love to see sasha and malia rocking twin mullets and wearing rainbow t-shirts.

renalin on February 4, 2013 at 10:05 AM

The leadership of the Boy Scouts are concerned about one thing,money.If their numbers start to drop because of this they deserve it.

docflash on February 4, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Actually that is what this is about, the militant queer lobby has been going after their donors, hence changing the policy as their response.

If they do this the BSA to be flush with cash at the cost of flushing it’s soul. You will see the end of the Boy Scouts as their leaders quit and parents quit letting their boys join. The sad remnant will be a gay coffee klatch.

wildcat72 on February 4, 2013 at 10:05 AM

This is just another of the left’s efforts to destroy any social organization, apart from the state. What parents in their right minds would send a normal son camping with a bunch of self-proclaimed gays?
This should be resisted as a part of the leftist/ communist takeover of the country, but probably won’t be.

tngmv on February 4, 2013 at 10:05 AM

And I think you resign and take a one-way flight to Zimbabwe.

Up yours, Obummer.

MelonCollie on February 4, 2013 at 10:07 AM

…It seems ‘SOMEONE‘ is still angry they weren’t allowed in the Boy Scouts when they were a boy…. LOL!

easyt65 on February 4, 2013 at 10:08 AM

They already do. Girls that meet the requirements can join. The rules they have for “tent camping” likely preclude what you have in mind.

Gunlock Bill on February 4, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Leftists blur the definition of “requirements” so I don’t know how to interpret the comment. The only requirements I think leftists believe in are that all reqts are subordinate to those of inclusion, political correctness, and affirmative action.

freedomfirst on February 4, 2013 at 10:09 AM

As a gay/ or bisexual nationalist-conservative I have mixed feelings about this issue. I don’t think its right to have overtly flamboyant people in the boy scouts, but I do not see a problem if it is kept to themselves. Honestly

BrianVII on February 4, 2013 at 10:00 AM

It isn’t a problem if it’s kept to themselves. I’ve known people who were but I had no idea they were gay until I found out later. Why? because they were classy.

But that’s not the issue here, the modern militant gay movement is all about “IN YOUR FACE” as in rubbing it’s flamboyance IN your face, and forcing you to accept it as “normal”.

wildcat72 on February 4, 2013 at 10:11 AM

As a gay/ or bisexual nationalist-conservative I have mixed feelings about this issue. I don’t think its right to have overtly flamboyant people in the boy scouts, but I do not see a problem if it is kept to themselves. Honestly

BrianVII on February 4, 2013 at 10:00 AM

So you’re expecting what from this dedicated to destruction progressive? If he could have, he’d have placed Kevin Jennings in charge of the BSofA instead of the “safe school csar”.
Mind you Obama the sun god would never have allowed his kids any part of that monster, but he’s bound and determined to endoctrinate our’s to it. With Jennings it was never about protection for gay teens, that was the cover. It was and is about pedophillia.
It’s not about gays. It was never about gay rights for this Alinsky A@@hole. It’s about the destruction of virtues and proclamations of what they regard as virtues.

onomo on February 4, 2013 at 10:12 AM

…It seems ‘SOMEONE‘ is still angry they weren’t allowed in the Boy Scouts when they were a boy…. LOL!

easyt65 on February 4, 2013 at 10:08 AM

Do they have Boy Scout troops in Kenya and Indonesia?

wildcat72 on February 4, 2013 at 10:12 AM

I’m pretty sure Rep Steven Cohen(D-TN) is in the Black Congressional Caucus.

thuja on February 4, 2013 at 9:52 AM

No, he is not. He applied for membership but was rejected.

DarkCurrent on February 4, 2013 at 10:13 AM

I’m pretty sure Rep Steven Cohen(D-TN) is in the Black Congressional Caucus.

thuja on February 4, 2013 at 9:52 AM

No, he is not. He applied for membership but was rejected.

DarkCurrent on February 4, 2013 at 10:13 AM

If it’s “RAAAAACIST!!!!” for there to be a “White-” organization, then a “Black-” organization also is. IE: Miss “Black” America, the CBC, etc.

wildcat72 on February 4, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Every time I think he can’t get any more insufferable…

Cleombrotus on February 4, 2013 at 10:15 AM

I can hardly wait for his words of wisdom on when to plant my garden.

In the meantime, I’ll rely on Chauncey Gardiner. Come to think of it, I prefer his advice.

Drained Brain on February 4, 2013 at 10:18 AM

“If I had a son, he’d be a gay boy scout”

burserker on February 4, 2013 at 10:18 AM

Nice to see he’s lasered in on jobs and the deficit.

Doughboy on February 4, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Inconsequential nonsense. Gun control, gays, amnesty, and blaming Republicans.

Haven’t the national BSA already decided to change their national policy prohibiting gays, leaving it up to the localities if they want to follow the national policy? That, plus the trend towards more support for gay marriage … Obama is hardly sticking his neck out. In fact, he’s riding a wave of what’s already happened, so he can claim credit for the wave. Not just waves … even the wind and seas obey him.

Paul-Cincy on February 4, 2013 at 10:18 AM

I think SCoaMF should let his daughters go on overnights with Robert Menendez.

MNHawk on February 4, 2013 at 10:19 AM

Boy Scouts begins at age 11 and typically you lose them when they get their drivers license at 16. The committed Scouts that hang on until their 18th birthday and finish their Eagle projects have, in my personal experience as their Scoutmaster and/or Adult Scouter, been young men of the first caliber that I am proud and honored to know, and invariably succeed in life…gay or straight makes no difference.

Their sexual orientation has no bearing on their ability to live comfortably in nature, or their ability to be exceptional Scouts.

This is another tempest in a teapot brought on by a national council unable to present a position that differentiates between pedophiles and gays, and the socialista left seeking to create yet another crisis that can be hung on conservative values as evil and wrong.

MarkT on February 4, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Wrecking another American institution

Ellis on February 4, 2013 at 10:24 AM

I think the Black Congressional Caucus should admit white members.

Bishop on February 4, 2013 at 9:38 AM

Bishop v. Sheila Jackson Lee et al. If a private club restricted membership based on race or gender, wouldn’t Obama be all over it?


Most recently, President Barack Obama encouraged Augusta National to admit women. 8/20/12

Paul-Cincy on February 4, 2013 at 10:25 AM

The leadership of the Boy Scouts are concerned about one thing,money.If their numbers start to drop because of this they deserve it.

docflash on February 4, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Close. The leadership of the Boy Scouts are concerned about one thing, money numbers. If their numbers money starts to drop because of this they deserve it.

Longhorn Six on February 4, 2013 at 10:27 AM

This is another tempest in a teapot brought on by a national council unable to present a position that differentiates between pedophiles and gays

MarkT on February 4, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Just a friendly reminder that ALL male on male pedophiles are gay. Every. Single. One.

There is NO SUCH THING as a straight male on male pedophile.

HotAirian on February 4, 2013 at 10:27 AM

I’m pretty sure Rep Steven Cohen(D-TN) is in the Black Congressional Caucus.

thuja on February 4, 2013 at 9:52 AM

No, he is not. He applied for membership but was rejected.

DarkCurrent on February 4, 2013 at 10:13 AM

It amazes me how much Democrats get away with racism. I know I shouldn’t be surprised by it after so much evidence, but still each new bit of evidence is a fresh shock.

thuja on February 4, 2013 at 10:28 AM

his is another tempest in a teapot brought on by a national council unable to present a position that differentiates between pedophiles and gays, and the socialista left seeking to create yet another crisis that can be hung on conservative values as evil and wrong.

MarkT on February 4, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Gays that gravitate towards positions that allow them access to boys tend to be pedophiles. Ending this prohibition is desired by the militant gay movement so as to open this avenue for them to have the opportunity.

Note that the vast majority of pedophile scandals (such as the one in the priesthood) are overwhelmingly homosexual and the victims boys.

Are all gays pedophiles? No, but they certainly are more likely to be than heterosexuals.

wildcat72 on February 4, 2013 at 10:29 AM

All of the malarkey about “making football safe” and the rest is trivial BS, which admittedly is about all were going to get from Dear Leader.

hillbillyjim on February 4, 2013 at 9:53 AM

If making football safer saves just one football player …

/the ends justify any means, don’t you know that

Paul-Cincy on February 4, 2013 at 10:29 AM

We don’t want kids who are under 18 having sex, there should be NO mention of sex in the boy scouts except perhaps in a biology lesson on nature, and there is no biology lesson to be had on gay sex. On the other hand, there are lessons for men on sex and responsibility that gays are not interested in, won’t they feel “left out?” And then no one will be able to tell the normal boys what is expected of a real man. Nature does not bless the gay men with issue or responsibilities. That is what nature says, not me.

The boy scouts are not about sexual activity. And gays are left out by nature in the rest of the pursuit of natural man hood. There really isn’t any equality, is there?

Fleuries on February 4, 2013 at 10:30 AM

My opinion on this matter aside, I’ve just had it with this dolt weighing in on so many aspects of our private life. Next he’ll be pushing for some law or EO requiring people use their left hand to wipe their @$$.

Left hand because he is a Muslim, they force everything on us.

poppieseeds on February 4, 2013 at 10:31 AM

you know who’d love a boy scout campout, Barney Frank…

burserker on February 4, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Ya know,for a sitting President,he sure does have
alot of Political irons in da fire,

me thinks,Hopey should be more worried about the US
Economy,and the Iranian Bomb,besides being the “Nosy
Neighbour Type”!

Ugh!!

canopfor on February 4, 2013 at 10:33 AM

If gay boys of ages 11-18 want an organization like the Boy Scouts then go form one. I am so sick of people forcing clubs and organizations that have specific rules and regulation to change for them.

OMG, what am I saying. How can anyone between the ages of 11-18 know that they are gay?

mechkiller_k on February 4, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Watch Obysmal’s continued lurch to the Left. John Fund reports at NRO:

Nor is Obama’s lurch to the left limited to cabinet appointments. Last month he named Denis McDonough as his new chief of staff and Jennifer Palmieri as the new White House communications director. Both aides have blogged for the left-wing website Think Progress and have ties to the George Soros–funded Center for American Progress. McDonough was a senior fellow at CAP before joining Obama’s Senate staff in 2006, and Palmieri served as president of the group’s political-action fund. CAP is a respectable voice for progressive politics, and John Podesta, the group’s founder, also served for a time as Bill Clinton’s chief of staff. But it is undeniably a hard-left group.

Obama will soon fill key vacant posts at the Environmental Protection Agency and the Department of Energy. Reuters reports that the front runner in the race to become the new head of the EPA is Gina McCarthy, who is now the assistant administrator for the Office of Air and Radiation, which makes her the point person for the administration’s “war on coal” campaign. McCarthy has superficial credentials as a moderate, having served as the top environmental regulator in Massachusetts and Connecticut under Democratic and Republican governors. She advised Mitt Romney when he was governor of Massachusetts and began the state’s first Climate Protection Action Plan. But Romney campaign aides tell me that they got no end of grief from business interests who were worried she might find a place in a Romney administration. “There was no way, no how she was going to be part of anything,” one aide says. “But we know her well enough to know that if Obama promotes her, the EPA is going to go all out in support of climate controls.”

Similarly, energy companies — at least those not subsidized by the federal government — are appalled that former Washington governor Christine Gregoire, who tried to pass a state version of Obama’s cap-and-trade regulatory policy, is a leading candidate to become the new secretary of energy. Gregoire saw her proposal crash and burn, just as Obama saw his plan fail, after key Democratic legislators opposed it.

onlineanalyst on February 4, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Everyone will call me naive, but … it’s becoming apparent to me that Obama’s method is to move the country to the left, without any consideration for long-term consequences such as debt or sustainability. He figures the further he moves us to the left, the harder it will be to move back to the center. Like with Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, he figures now that ObamaCare is the law of the land, nothing will ever undo it.

Obama gives his standard argument for “diversity” in arguing for gays in the Boy Scouts — gays shouldn’t be denied the leadership training and opportunities afforded by the Boy Scouts. He turns it into a civil rights issue — equal opportunity for all. A really narrow conception of the Boy Scouts. Same with gays in the military, and women in combat. It’s all about opportunity, not whether it’s a good idea.

Obama gets some shallow, narrow idea of “social justice” in his mind, next comes a significant and ongoing erosion of the moral foundations of many of our basic institutions. Families, marriage, religion, work, the military, the American Dream, and now, even the Boy Scouts.

Paul-Cincy on February 4, 2013 at 10:41 AM

“I will use whatever weight this office holds…”

Man, he sure loves to use that early and often…after all it is the Chicago way. “That sure is a nice non-profit, historical American institution you have there…be a shame if something happened to it.” That’s what I hear when this thug talks.

O/T: Maybe Rahm can ask the Banks not to handle the BSA’s money?

NickelAndDime on February 4, 2013 at 10:41 AM

If you’re a Democrat who’s opposed to letting your kid join a BSA unit that includes gays, this might make you think twice. If you’re Republican who’s opposed to letting your kid join a BSA unit that includes gays, who cares what Obama thinks? It’s a net gain for gays to have O’s endorsement.

Homosexuality and atheism are contrary to BSA principles. The brave thing for them to do would maintain the fight but I suspect they’ll partially cave and leave it up to the local troops if they are okay with sodomites and people of no faith as role models for their children despite a century of standing for something completely different.

Happy Nomad on February 4, 2013 at 10:41 AM

OMG, what am I saying. How can anyone between the ages of 11-18 know that they are gay?

mechkiller_k on February 4, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Well, for that matter. Why isn’t it the parent who gets to decide when it is right to discuss sexual orientation with their 8-year-old instead of having it forced on them by some lesbian den mother?

Happy Nomad on February 4, 2013 at 10:43 AM

…And why should you actually have to achieve certain set goals in order to obtain “Eagle scout” status. The fair thing to do would be to allow everyone to call themselves Eagle scouts.

kpguru on February 4, 2013 at 10:44 AM

Has anyone ever heard the term “fox in the hen house”. It’s a bad idea.

kpguru on February 4, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Has anyone ever heard the term “fox in the hen house”. It’s a bad idea.

kpguru on February 4, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Is that a euphemism for some gay sexual position?

Come to think of it, maybe the BSA can teach gay sexual practices using the same format as tying knots.

/just messing with you

Paul-Cincy on February 4, 2013 at 10:50 AM

I believe it would behoove our super liberal president to keep his big fat mouth shut when it comes to commenting on the troubles the LBGPDQXYZ lobby is giving the Boy Scouts of America.

Why? Well because he wasn’t, among all the other things he wasn’t, a Boy Scout, and as a liberal ashhole political hack, he has no point of reference to the Boy Scouts, because they didn’t have Boy Scouts in his native Kenya, or in his moslem dominated boyhood home in the Far East.

While they obviously had plenty of Brown Shirts and Mohammed Youth troupes, we cannot even find out whether he participated in any of theses fine Nazi-like religion of peace organizations due to his penchant for secrecy about his bona fides, or even what the license plate was on the turnip truck he fell out of.

Finally, with 2 of the opposite sex children in the household, he would probably be better off limiting his comments to opinions about the Girl Scouts – although there has been no information offered about the proclivities of the First Brats when it comes to socializing like average kids with their peers and peeresses.

dockywocky on February 4, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Obama: I think the Boy Scouts should admit gay members

…do you think JugEars kept the rejection letter?

KOOLAID2 on February 4, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Socratease on February 4, 2013 at 10:01 AM

Gentle reminder about what C.S. Lewis said about do-gooders. Paraphrased: they will never give you rest because what they are doing is for your own good.

chemman on February 4, 2013 at 10:55 AM

If gay boys of ages 11-18 want an organization like the Boy Scouts then go form one. I am so sick of people forcing clubs and organizations that have specific rules and regulation to change for them.

OMG, what am I saying. How can anyone between the ages of 11-18 know that they are gay?

mechkiller_k on February 4, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Most of the boys on my son’s baseball team are so hormoned-up they would screw a tree if they could. I don’t think anyone can “know” they’re ghey at that age.

Nutstuyu on February 4, 2013 at 10:56 AM

All of the malarkey about “making football safe” and the rest is trivial BS, which admittedly is about all were going to get from Dear Leader.

hillbillyjim on February 4, 2013 at 9:53 AM

If making football safer saves just one football player …

/the ends justify any means, don’t you know that

Paul-Cincy on February 4, 2013 at 10:29 AM

So will they all be taking pay cuts if they don’t have to work as hard during the game?

Nutstuyu on February 4, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Folks, wait until this Wednesday and we see what kind of rally shows up outside BSA HQ in the morning. It should make things a bit more interesting.

michaelo on February 4, 2013 at 10:58 AM

My 13 year old son, who is a Life Scout, said that he would not be comfortable going to camp and sharing a shower and a tent with a gay scout. He said “I would be allowed to share a tent and a shower with a girl, so why is it okay for gays?”

Alderene on February 4, 2013 at 11:00 AM

make that “Wouldn’t be allowed . . .”

Alderene on February 4, 2013 at 11:01 AM

If I point out that numerous studies have shown a high correlation between homosexual males and child molestation, does that make me homophobic?

kjl291 on February 4, 2013 at 11:03 AM

I am fine with the Scouts admitting gays as long as I first see the Black Caucus admitting Klansmen, the Anti Defamation League admitting neo-nazis, the Gay and Lesbian Alliance admitting skin heads, the Democrat Party admitting American Patriots, etc., etc., etc.

12th Legion on February 4, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Obama: I think the Boy Scouts should admit gay members

…do you think JugEars kept the rejection letter?

KOOLAID2 on February 4, 2013 at 10:54 AM

KOOLAID2:Dats a good one,haha!:)

canopfor on February 4, 2013 at 11:06 AM

If I point out that numerous studies have shown a high correlation between homosexual males and child molestation, does that make me homophobic?

kjl291 on February 4, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Liberals have minds like steel traps. It goes like this:

If you molest children, you’re not gay, you’re a pedophile.
If you’re a gay male, you’re attracted to other males, you always have been and always will be. It’s a nice, neat category.
If you’re a typical gay male and have anonymous sex with hundreds of partners, that’s not behavior, that’s about who you are.
To say gay males are responsible for the AIDS epidemic in the U.S. is bigotry.
Homosexual love is the same as heterosexual love.

And if you disagree with any of the above, you’re a homophobe.

Paul-Cincy on February 4, 2013 at 11:12 AM

As honorary president and never having been a scout, he is unqualified to opine on the matter. Altho he is qualified to do so with the Red Pioneers.

AH_C on February 4, 2013 at 11:18 AM

but I do not see a problem if it is kept to themselves. Honestly

BrianVII on February 4, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Then I suggest that you join the Democrats, because you obviously can’t see what Conservative principals are. The Boy Scouts were formed as a outreach to boys by the Presbyterian Church, that’s why even to this day the vast majority of Scout troops meet at churches.

The Boy Scout’s moral and ethical code of conduct comes from Christian theology, which is the reason that Homosexuals have been barred from Scouting for the entire 100 year history of the Boy Scouts.

Just in case you still can’t see the problem, the homosexuals demanding entrance into the Boy Scouts are doing so for the purpose of forcing the Boy Scouts to change their moral and ethical code of conduct.

Forcing anyone else to change their beliefs, their morals or ethics would be about as progressive Marxist totalitarian a position as one can take.

That would be about as far from being a conservative position as one can take, and if you can’t see that, it’s only because you are not a conservative.

SWalker on February 4, 2013 at 11:20 AM

They already do. Girls that meet the requirements can join. The rules they have for “tent camping” likely preclude what you have in mind.

Gunlock Bill on February 4, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Not entirely true. Young women can enter Venture Scouting, which is a part of the BSA, but is not Boy Scouting, per se. A Venture Scout organization is separate from a Boy Scout troop and not within a lightyear of a Cub Scout pack. Boy Scouts do not allow girls to join troops, nor do Cub Scouts allow them to join packs.

GWB on February 4, 2013 at 11:22 AM

If Obama is for it, I’m against it. Not that I’m for or against gays in the BSA, but I’m diametrically opposed to everything O. is for.

sadatoni on February 4, 2013 at 11:26 AM

Then I suggest that you join the Democrats, because you obviously can’t see what Conservative principals are. The Boy Scouts were formed as a outreach to boys by the Presbyterian Church, that’s why even to this day the vast majority of Scout troops meet at churches.

The Boy Scout’s moral and ethical code of conduct comes from Christian theology, which is the reason that Homosexuals have been barred from Scouting for the entire 100 year history of the Boy Scouts.

Just in case you still can’t see the problem, the homosexuals demanding entrance into the Boy Scouts are doing so for the purpose of forcing the Boy Scouts to change their moral and ethical code of conduct.

Forcing anyone else to change their beliefs, their morals or ethics would be about as progressive Marxist totalitarian a position as one can take.

That would be about as far from being a conservative position as one can take, and if you can’t see that, it’s only because you are not a conservative.

SWalker on February 4, 2013 at 11:20 AM

THIS ^^^^^^

reddevil on February 4, 2013 at 11:27 AM

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