Karl Rove’s Super PAC creating new group aimed at helping establishment candidates in GOP primaries

posted at 10:31 am on February 4, 2013 by Allahpundit

We knew this was coming, no? A month ago, Politico reported that Senate Republicans were planning to intervene more aggressively in GOP primaries in hopes of clearing the field for their preferred candidates. A few days later, Steve LaTourette announced that the Republican Main Street Partnership was dropping “Republican” from its name and would intervene on behalf of centrist candidates from both parties in congressional elections. Now here comes Rove’s group, American Crossroads, pledging untold millions towards electing the most allegedly “electable” candidate in Republican primaries. No more Akins — and maybe no more Marco Rubios, Rand Pauls, and Ted Cruzes too?

The group, the Conservative Victory Project, is intended to counter other organizations that have helped defeat establishment Republican candidates over the last two election cycles. It is the most robust attempt yet by Republicans to impose a new sense of discipline on the party, particularly in primary races.

“There is a broad concern about having blown a significant number of races because the wrong candidates were selected,” said Steven J. Law, the president of American Crossroads, the “super PAC” creating the new project. “We don’t view ourselves as being in the incumbent protection business, but we want to pick the most conservative candidate who can win.”…

The group’s plans, which were outlined for the first time last week in an interview with Mr. Law, call for hard-edge campaign tactics, including television advertising, against candidates whom party leaders see as unelectable and a drag on the efforts to win the Senate. Mr. Law cited Iowa as an example and said Republicans could no longer be squeamish about intervening in primary fights.

“We’re concerned about Steve King’s Todd Akin problem,” Mr. Law said. “This is an example of candidate discipline and how it would play in a general election. All of the things he’s said are going to be hung around his neck.”

Is it really about Steve King? Politico’s Jonathan Martin floats a compelling alternative theory:

Read Erick Erickson, Ben Shapiro, and the boss emeritus, all wondering why we should trust a guy like Rove who has TARP, Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind, huge federal deficits, and an abysmal record of 2012 election spending to his record. I said most of what I have to say about the big establishment pushback effort in the posts linked up top, but let me add three things:

1. I think in most cases the threat of a party’s nominee being badly damaged in the general by a tough primary is overblown (see, e.g., Obama vs. Hillary), but the threat increases a lot if one of the primary candidates is being attacked by his opponent as a crank and a nut. If the “crank” goes on to win, public opinion of him will likely have dropped enough by the time the general campaign begins that he’ll start in a deep hole polling-wise. Even if the “crank” loses, his supporters may be so alienated by the establishment GOP effort to demonize him that they stay home. Bad outcomes, either way.

2. Will the Conservative Victory Project target tea partiers based on their policy preferences or their penchant for saying “crank-ish” things? A guy like Cruz may vote much more conservatively than Rove et al. would prefer but it’s hard to imagine him stumbling onto a rhetorical landmine with national implications a la Akin. If they stick to going after candidates whose main liability is destructive soundbites, that might encourage grassroots candidates to be more circumspect in opining publicly on things like, oh, say, rape. If they’re going after people because, e.g., they oppose a path to citizenship, that’ll create much deeper, more bitter intraparty divisions.

3. Will they target races that involve open seats only, a la Iowa’s Senate seat, or will they actually go so far as to try to oust tea-party incumbents from Congress? That would be nuclear war in the GOP, so I assume no, it’ll only be open seats.

Exit quotation from Erickson: “I dare say any candidate who gets this group’s support should be targeted for destruction by the conservative movement.”

Update: Whole lotta money’s going to be spent in Republican primaries next year:

But the Club for Growth and the Senate Conservatives Fund, both of which boost candidates on the right, said the new group — which they mockingly nicknamed the “Conservative Defeat Project,” is another example of “the Republican establishment’s hostility toward its conservative base.”

“Rather than listening to the grassroots and working to advance their principles, the establishment has chosen to declare war on the party’s most loyal supporters,” said Matt Hoskins, executive director of the Senate Conservatives Fund…

“They are welcome to support the likes of Arlen Specter, Charlie Crist and David Dewhurst,” Keller said of the new Crossroads group. “We will continue to proudly support the likes of Pat Toomey, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz.”


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Tater Salad on February 4, 2013 at 10:35 PM

I think that you are correct there, and I think again it is a winning combination, I think that if social issues, all are again moved to the state levels, the country will be indeed a fine place to live again. Time will tell. The Federal Government IMHO has for too long been involved in almost everything it shouldn’t too include its blown way out expansion in the Commerce Clause. I like Rand Paul a lot, I wish he would take the Governor ship first though, gives more experience at the executive level, plus working with the other Governors is a good thing as well, once moved to a national stage.

MarshFox on February 4, 2013 at 10:45 PM

“Restraint” meaning “social liberal”. The problem is I can’t think of a fiscal conservative/social liberal pol on the scene today. Can you?

ddrintn on February 4, 2013 at 10:40 PM

Don’t take this personally, but i knew it was coming. The government needs to show as much restraint in social (read religious)issues as we ask in fiscal issues.

Notice in previous posts I mention my admiration for Goldwater and Jefferson. While each was a religious man they chose to protect their religious views from the public square of politics. Social conservatives can only win at the ballot box when they win the hearts of the voters; morality cannot be legislated.

Tater Salad on February 4, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Don’t take this personally, but i knew it was coming. The government needs to show as much restraint in social (read religious)issues as we ask in fiscal issues.

I know you did, because you know that’s exactly what is meant.

Notice in previous posts I mention my admiration for Goldwater and Jefferson. While each was a religious man they chose to protect their religious views from the public square of politics. Social conservatives can only win at the ballot box when they win the hearts of the voters; morality cannot be legislated.

Tater Salad on February 4, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Morality is legislated any time a piece of legislation is passed. I’m tired of this “can’t legislate morality” bunk. It’s just that it’s incumbent upon politicians who happen to be evangelical Christians to shut up about their beliefs because it’s not popular with the dominant media culture and is open to ridicule.

ddrintn on February 4, 2013 at 10:52 PM

ddrintn on February 4, 2013 at 10:40 PM

I would suggest a book for you that shows how you combine both in a just manner and still govern with respect of almost all the people. It is called “Molon Labe” it is a very good read, fiction , but the interview in the back with the main character and Playboy, again fiction, lays out the case perfectly for how a fiscal/social conservative should govern, well IMHO anyway.

MarshFox on February 4, 2013 at 10:55 PM

I hear Geraldo’s running as a Republican. I’m sure you hope he does well… :)

ddrintn on February 4, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Don’t try to take Rove’s first Candidate, LOL

bluefox on February 4, 2013 at 10:59 PM

ddrintn on February 4, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Espousing your beliefs is fine and a winner, however ensure you can espouse them, that is and has been the problem and it has made too many of us look foolish. Again, win at the state level, you begin to change opinion and it will carry over at the national level. The bashing can be blunted and actually thwarted by good articulated positions that are spoken boldly!

MarshFox on February 4, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Morality is legislated any time a piece of legislation is passed. I’m tired of this “can’t legislate morality” bunk. It’s just that it’s incumbent upon politicians who happen to be evangelical Christians to shut up about their beliefs because it’s not popular with the dominant media culture and is open to ridicule.

ddrintn on February 4, 2013 at 10:52 PM

First, the USA isn’t an “evangelical” country, you are. Second, Jefferson realized while the bible was the most important book of faith, however it didn’t make a good governing document because of the various interpretations of the bible. He wanted our government to free from these interpretations because if the government was too involved in these intepretations it would cause the downfall of the republic (ie. I’m an Episcopalian and you probably wouldn’t like if I got to set public policy based on my religious beliefs).

Your religious beliefs is very dear to you, don’t compromise it with politicizing it.

Tater Salad on February 4, 2013 at 11:02 PM

ddrintn, the GOP has completely irresponsible in the abortion debate, not by using a bigger sledge hammer to win the argument, but by changing the subject. We should be using liberal soeak to beat the liberals, abortion is a “human rights” issue.

Tater Salad on February 4, 2013 at 11:06 PM

First, the USA isn’t an “evangelical” country, you are.

Straw man. That wasn’t what was stated.

Second, Jefferson realized while the bible was the most important book of faith, however it didn’t make a good governing document because of the various interpretations of the bible.

Same could be said of the Constitution.

He wanted our government to free from these interpretations because if the government was too involved in these intepretations it would cause the downfall of the republic (ie. I’m an Episcopalian and you probably wouldn’t like if I got to set public policy based on my religious beliefs).

So, what would a specifically Episcopalian piece of legislation look like?

Your religious beliefs is very dear to you, don’t compromise it with politicizing it.

Tater Salad on February 4, 2013 at 11:02 PM

AKA, “keep quiet about it. The NYT will have a field day.”

ddrintn on February 4, 2013 at 11:07 PM

However I do believe that this country will be better off getting the most conservative candidate possible for situation/state/precinct they are in.

Tater Salad on February 4, 2013 at 10:24 PM

And that is NOT what Karl Rove, et al wants. Karl Rove/RINOS hate Conservatives/Tea Party members.

bluefox on February 4, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Social conservatives can only win at the ballot box when they win the hearts of the voters; morality cannot be legislated.

Tater Salad on February 4, 2013 at 10:49 PM

We’re not asking Morality to be legislated, just practiced.

bluefox on February 4, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Could we trim some fat from those jowls please?

Sherman1864 on February 4, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Notice in previous posts I mention my admiration for Goldwater and Jefferson. While each was a religious man they chose to protect their religious views from the public square of politics. Social conservatives can only win at the ballot box when they win the hearts of the voters; morality cannot be legislated.

Tater Salad on February 4, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Agreed there.. The most successful social con movement is the pro-life movement because they’ve moved into “hearts and minds” and away from legislation only. The crisis pregnancy centers are the “darlings” of the movement for a reason. Those centers have probably saved more babies than any laws that have been past. As a business nerd, there was a New York Times article that I read which I thought was cool. Even the biased New York Times pointed out that the lobbies of the crisis pregnancy centers are very inviting and calming and the Planned Parenthood Clinic was very clinical. An unplanned pregnancy can be a very frightening prospect, which for some odd reason the pro-choice people don’t get. Having a caring environment and support system is crucial. I just thought it was cool – rare example of our side doing something right.

As for the Evangelical influence on the Republican Party, the next nominee will be Catholic. Catholicism is different from Evangelical Protestantism… very different.

Illinidiva on February 4, 2013 at 11:20 PM

Update: Whole lotta money’s going to be spent in Republican primaries next year:

Rove’s RINOs
won’t be getting diddly.
They and he have jumped the shark!
When Gov. Palin calls for cold cash,
will mortgage the house, and sell the boat!

“Let’s Roll”

On Watch on February 4, 2013 at 11:30 PM

Has Levin’s rant about this been posted here yet? 27 minute audio from his first hour today.

http://www.therightscoop.com/extended-audio-mark-levin-exposes-karl-rove-steven-j-law-and-why-they-are-bad-for-gop/#disqus_thread

Listening now. Love to hear him so fired up. He really hates Karl Rove.

karenhasfreedom on February 4, 2013 at 11:48 PM

karenhasfreedom on February 4, 2013 at 11:48 PM

Thanks for the link..:)

Dire Straits on February 5, 2013 at 12:44 AM

Illinidiva on February 4, 2013 at 11:20 PM

I always appreciate reading your comments on this site. You are sensible and definitely know your stuff. You are an asset to this website!

bluegill on February 5, 2013 at 12:48 AM

Awwwwww. Well maybe you can go join that new “grassroots” thingie the GOPe is putting together that I referenced above. I’ll bet it will spread like wildfire!

ddrintn on February 4, 2013 at 9:52 PM

… or, more accurately, like gonorrhea. ;)

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 1:48 AM

The next time a self-annoited conservative wraps themself in the memory of Reagan I think I’m going to puke

Tater Salad on February 4, 2013 at 10:08 PM

How… telling.

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 1:52 AM

ddrintn, the GOP has completely irresponsible in the abortion debate, not by using a bigger sledge hammer to win the argument, but by changing the subject. We should be using liberal soeak to beat the liberals

Tater Salad on February 4, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Is this available in English…?

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 1:58 AM

Don’t be suprised if Goldwater (along with old TJ) are the model for the future of the GOP. I have a 16 year old who likes how [Ron] Paul’s treat of the Constitution. [sic]

Tater Salad on February 4, 2013 at 10:35 PM

Ghoulish Ron Paul doubles down on Chris Kyle, invokes Jesus

Don’t despair, though. She’s still young yet, after all.

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 2:13 AM

This probably has to happen and Rove is probably the guy to pull it off. The reason is that like it or not the “Tea Party”, just the word itself, has become a pejorative in much of the country. There is no way a “Tea Party” affiliated candidate would ever win in California or New Mexico or Delaware, or many other states. People have to do two things:

1. Come to the realization that Hispanic voters will never vote for a “Tea Party” candidate no matter what. Same goes for the voters in more liberal states and a good number of them in “purple” states. I don’t care how much they detest the Democrat that is running, I promise you they detest a “Tea Party” candidate even more. Granted, this is due to a lack of understanding what the tea party movement is about, but the damage is done. The “Tea Party” brand is basically crap in a large part of the US.

2. Come to the realization that the notion that “if we run a candidate that is more conservative, we will always win” is just as laughable as the notion that Obama isn’t more popular because he isn’t liberal enough. The Democrats look like they are seriously overreaching on a lot of issues and this is turning a lot of Democrats away from the Democratic Party but it isn’t pushing them closer to “Tea Party” candidates. They would accept a Republican candidate that is fiscally conservative and will allow the people to mind their own business on social issues. The “Tea Party” is seen by many in America as a group who wants to shove extreme social conservatism down the throats of people using government as the lever. Again, this is mostly a result of a misunderstanding of the Tea Party movement and it is partially due to some drift in the Tea Party since the movement first started. Trying to run Tea Party candidates in the upper Midwest and Northeast is just not going to gain any traction.

As I mentioned above, the Democrats are overreaching on a lot of issues. Primary among those issues at the moment is the Second Amendment but there are others. People are getting tired of the blatant corruption of the Obama administration and the incompetence. Democrats are coming out against many of his candidates for various appointments. And while they might not be talking publicly, in private many of them secretly can’t wait until “this amateur” is out of the White House. Rove is giving them a place to which they can flee. Those voters can’t flee to the Tea Party. Running a Tea Party candidate in many places is like running Sarah Palin in Massachusetts, it is going to get no traction. They are both damaged brands where people have ideas based on propaganda that is basically a bunch of lies, but it is what it is.

Rove is creating a middle ground here which can attract Democrats who are not dyed in the wool liberals. He is trying to disconnect the notion that Republican = Tea Party that has been created in many places. That probably must happen because the Tea Party has walked the Republican Party way too far to the right in some areas. A Republican elected in a place like MA or DE or MN is probably going to be more liberal than one in AL or SC and it just has to be OK for that to be the case because the PEOPLE there are more liberal. Deluding yourself that running an ultra conservative candidate always wins no matter what is just crazy when you have an electorate in that area that is not conservative and would never support a Tea Party candidate.

Let Rove do what he is doing. There needs to be an alternative within the Republican Party that is not associated with the Tea Party if the Republican Party intends to remain relevant.

crosspatch on February 5, 2013 at 3:03 AM

There needs to be an alternative within the Republican Party that is not associated with the Tea Party if the Republican Party intends to remain relevant.

crosspatch on February 5, 2013 at 3:03 AM

Yeah! A party for really, truly super-duper-electable types at the national level, like… f’rinstance… Bob Dole! And John McCain! And Mitt Romney — !!!

Oh. Oh, wait.

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 3:13 AM

Remind me again, CINOs: why, exactly, should I take ANYthing this blubbery, bumbling @sshat says even remotely seriously…?

Karl Rove’s shining moment.

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 4:46 AM

“…who can win.” That’s the key phrase.

Signed,

Mittens

fossten on February 5, 2013 at 6:17 AM

The GOP is now the the party of open borders and offshoring of US jobs – en masse. Corporatists who are hooked on cheap 3rd world labor. This is their “brand”. Which is why they can’t win. People like Rove continue to control the GOP which is why it is necessary to form up a new, nationalistic Republican party. Apart and seperate from the GOP.

Darvin Dowdy on February 5, 2013 at 7:18 AM

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 3:13 AM

Your tiresome snark is neither witty nor original.

bluegill on February 5, 2013 at 7:21 AM

crosspatch on February 5, 2013 at 3:03 AM

You are one of the most thoughtful, worthwhile commenters on here. Thank you for contributing. It gets tiresome scrolling past all of the predictable Mark Levin parroting, so it is refreshing to see someone not simply mimic their favorite talk show host.

bluegill on February 5, 2013 at 7:24 AM

Your tiresome snark is neither witty nor original.

bluegill on February 5, 2013 at 7:21 AM

No, no. Rustle your pom poms more angrily next time, like you really mean it. SELL me on the vast, devastating power of your online snit — !!!

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 7:25 AM

The GOP is now the the party of open borders and offshoring of US jobs – en masse. Corporatists who are hooked on cheap 3rd world labor. This is their “brand”. Which is why they can’t win.

Darvin Dowdy on February 5, 2013 at 7:18 AM

So much easier simply to reflexively blame Sarah Palin/Todd Aikin/[Insert Name of Current Conservative Boogeyman Here] for all of the party’s repeatedly foreseen (and readily preventable) electoral woes every two or four years, though… at least, if the tired CINO apologist dribblings hereabouts are any indication.

Ah, well. Doubtless beats the hard (and sometimes unpleasant) drudge work involved in coolly, rationally thinking one’s way to the solution of any given problem, I daresay. ;)

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 7:32 AM

Now, this, on the other hand –

So help me, Romney will get this thing done.

bluegill on October 26, 2012 at 11:33 PM

… THIS, I readily grant you, is falling-down, gut-bustingly, omigawd-help-me-I-can’t-breathe hysterical, absolutely.

So… points to you, then.

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 7:53 AM

I’d be perfectly happy if Karl spent all his time defending Texas Senator John Cornyn. There is a big difference in the “virgins” Ted Cruz and David Dewhurst vying for an empty seat, and dethroning a sitting Senator who wants re-elected. So far the name bandied about is Greg Abbott, who has made clear he has no intention of running against his good friend. So the last thing Texas needs is Mark Levin shouting for his own little Sharron Angle or Christine O’Donnell to hand the seat, and a Democrat hasn’t been elected Senator in Texas since 1961, to Mr. Flashy White Teeth Hispanic Mayor of San Antonio (“the Hispanic Obama”) who gave the DNC keynote speech.

But the election is 2014 and since we’re in 2013 and the Cornyn grumblers have yet to come up with a name other than Greg Abbott, I’m not worried. Cornyn can whip that Mr. Flashy White Teeth with his paper thin resume and Obama love. I doubt if Cornyn runs un-oppsosed if Mr. Flashy even wastes time running. But, yeah, give him some “Let’s Tea Party! Republicans suck!!” kook opponent and watch Texas elect it’s first Democrat Senator since 1961.

Marcus on February 5, 2013 at 7:59 AM

and dethroning a sitting Senator who wants re-elected.

Marcus on February 5, 2013 at 7:59 AM

Absolutely! Don’t those ungrateful, unwashed conservative groundlings out there in the dusty electoral hinterlands understand that — once we manage to plop any given party member into ‘em, no matter how good (or gawdawful) a job they may end up doing afterwards; no matter HOW the actual electorate may feel about it — those Senate seats are meant to be lifelong guaranteed sinecures, for pete’s sake — ?!?

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 8:14 AM

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 8:14 AM

Does 18 stand for year or months? I wouldn’t be surprised if you lived in Boxer-Feinstein land and were hissing at us Texans to get rid of Cornyn.

Get lost.

Marcus on February 5, 2013 at 8:18 AM

I doubt if Cornyn runs un-oppsosed if Mr. Flashy even wastes time running. But, yeah, give him some “Let’s Tea Party! Republicans suck!!” kook opponent and watch Texas elect it’s first Democrat Senator since 1961.

Marcus on February 5, 2013 at 7:59 AM

Dude. Your political prognosticating sucks anyway. Let’s see: Perry with his Reagan- red tie was going to swamp Romney and then Obama in a 45-state landslide win. Then, Romney was going to beat Obama anyway.

ddrintn on February 5, 2013 at 8:20 AM

Does 18 stand for year or months? I wouldn’t be surprised if you lived in Boxer-Feinstein land and were hissing at us Texans to get rid of Cornyn.

Get lost.

Marcus on February 5, 2013 at 8:18 AM

“If the facts are on your side, Dershowitz says, pound the facts into the table. If the law is on your side, pound the law into the table. If neither the facts nor the law are on your side, pound the table.”

Futile banging of sippy cup on nearest table top: noted.

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 8:22 AM

Dude. Your political prognosticating sucks anyway. Let’s see: Perry with his Reagan- red tie was going to swamp Romney and then Obama in a 45-state landslide win. Then, Romney was going to beat Obama anyway.
ddrintn on February 5, 2013 at 8:20 AM

You bring up Romney in every single thread. He must live rent free in your mind. Why do the Palin-obsessed cultists like you insist on bringing up Romney every five minutes?

bluegill on February 5, 2013 at 8:28 AM

You bring up Romney in every single thread. He must live rent free in your mind. Why do the Palin-obsessed cultists like you insist on bringing up Romney every five minutes?

bluegill on February 5, 2013 at 8:28 AM

Because it’s so fun to bask in the glory of President Romney!!!!! That’s why.

ddrintn on February 5, 2013 at 8:30 AM

Because it’s so fun to bask in the glory of President Romney!!!!! That’s why.

ddrintn on February 5, 2013 at 8:30 AM

Bet all of those know-nothings and assorted rabble who ignorantly mocked and jeered the sheer, towering political genius of savants such as Karl Rove, Dick Morris and Jen Rubin are all feeling pretty darned foolish now, by golly! ;)

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 8:34 AM

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 8:34 AM

Yeah, and 90% of this discussion board. Anyone who didn’t say Romney was going to win at least 300 EVs was subject to TROLLCOTT!!!!!!!!

ddrintn on February 5, 2013 at 8:36 AM

Anyone who didn’t say Romney was going to win at least 300 EVs was subject to TROLLCOTT!!!!!!!!

ddrintn on February 5, 2013 at 8:36 AM

Oh, I remember. Lots and lots of smug, supercilious “Oh… you mean you still actually believe the established polling outfits, then? AH-ha-ha-ha-ha-haaaaaa! Hie thee hence to UnSkewedPolls.com forthwith, thou unletter’d churl — !!!” Yadda yadda yadda, fap fap fap, lose lose lose. ;)

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 8:43 AM

1. Come to the realization that Hispanic voters will never vote for a “Tea Party” candidate no matter what.

crosspatch on February 5, 2013 at 3:03 AM

They’re not going to vote for a squish-wing GOPer, either. “Hispanics” is the new “indies”: the rational in 2016 for nominating an unelectable moderate, just as “indies” and “the mushy middle” were the rationale for 2012. Squishes always seem to be sitting around trying to find ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

ddrintn on February 5, 2013 at 8:43 AM

Romney lost, and he lost following Karl Rove’s electoral formula. How does Rove still find work in politics?

/SimpleTruth

gryphon202 on February 5, 2013 at 8:46 AM

Romney lost, and he lost following Karl Rove’s electoral formula. How does Rove still find work in politics?

/SimpleTruth

gryphon202 on February 5, 2013 at 8:46 AM

Forget Rove. At least he’s won a couple of elections. How do people like Mike Murphy and Steve Schmidt have an income?

ddrintn on February 5, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Romney and McCain both lost, and he they lost following Karl Rove’s electoral formula. How does Rove still find work in politics?

/SimpleTruth

gryphon202 on February 5, 2013 at 8:46 AM

Minor edit, solely in the interest of unflinching historical accuracy. ;)

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 8:49 AM

Forget Rove. At least he’s won a couple of elections. How do people like Mike Murphy and Steve Schmidt have an income?

ddrintn on February 5, 2013 at 8:48 AM

By aligning themselves with the same circles of people Karl Rove associates with…

/MoreSimpleTruth

gryphon202 on February 5, 2013 at 8:51 AM

By aligning themselves with the same circles of people Karl Rove associates with…

/MoreSimpleTruth

gryphon202 on February 5, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Think about it though. What were the last winning campaigns managed by Murphy or Schmidt?

ddrintn on February 5, 2013 at 8:56 AM

What were the last winning campaigns managed by Murphy or Schmidt?

ddrintn on February 5, 2013 at 8:56 AM

Not counting grade school elections for milk money monitor, you mean…? ;)

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 8:57 AM

Think about it though. What were the last winning campaigns managed by Murphy or Schmidt?

ddrintn on February 5, 2013 at 8:56 AM

Who cares? As long as they keep the money rolling in…right?

gryphon202 on February 5, 2013 at 8:57 AM

Because it’s so fun to bask in the glory of President Romney!!!!! That’s why.

ddrintn on February 5, 2013 at 8:30 AM

So when whichever nutty candidate you support loses by 20% to a Democrat, then bluegill, Marcus, etc. can mock you relentlessly as well.

But the election is 2014 and since we’re in 2013 and the Cornyn grumblers have yet to come up with a name other than Greg Abbott, I’m not worried. Cornyn can whip that Mr. Flashy White Teeth with his paper thin resume and Obama love. I doubt if Cornyn runs un-oppsosed if Mr. Flashy even wastes time running. But, yeah, give him some “Let’s Tea Party! Republicans suck!!” kook opponent and watch Texas elect it’s first Democrat Senator since 1961.

Julian Castro correct?? Who is always on TV with his identical twin brother? Every time I see those two, I start thinking of the Lollipop Guild.

It strikes me as a bad imitation of Rubio.

Illinidiva on February 5, 2013 at 9:05 AM

It strikes me as a bad imitation of Rubio.

Illinidiva on February 5, 2013 at 9:05 AM

If by “bad imitation of Rubio” you mean someone who will hold that clown responsible for his amnesty pandering, I can get on board with that.

gryphon202 on February 5, 2013 at 9:14 AM

S.E. Cupp Trashes Karl Rove’s ‘Refusal To Recognize Reality,’ Audacity To Presume He Deserves ‘Another Shot’

“If you remember back to that moment on Fox News on election night when Karl Rove refused to cede Ohio – that was emblematic, I think, of Karl Rove, American Crossroads, and the establishment’s problem over the last four years: refusal to recognize reality,” Cupp continued. “Absolute refusal.”

Sanity! Dear, sweet sanity! Oh, how we’ve missed you around here, this past year or so — !!!

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 9:15 AM

Because it’s so fun to bask in the glory of President Romney!!!!! That’s why.

ddrintn on February 5, 2013 at 8:30 AM

So when whichever nutty candidate you support loses by 20% to a Democrat, then bluegill, Marcus, etc. can mock you relentlessly as well.

Illinidiva on February 5, 2013 at 9:05 AM

Well, they can, but all they can really hang their hats on are O’Donnell, Angle and a couple of others who weren’t even “Tea Party” candidates. The list of squishier losers is massive. And you can’t get much more spectacular than Romney’s epic failure.

ddrintn on February 5, 2013 at 9:19 AM

“Conservative Victory Project.” Sounds rather orwellian, no? They’re not interested in conservatism, and it’s a bunch of people whose collective record of victory is rather suspect.

gryphon202 on February 5, 2013 at 9:20 AM

Dude. Your political prognosticating sucks anyway. Let’s see: Perry with his Reagan- red tie was going to swamp Romney and then Obama in a 45-state landslide win. Then, Romney was going to beat Obama anyway.

ddrintn on February 5, 2013 at 8:20 AM

LOL, as opposed to you, who worships at the altar of a woman who couldn’t be elected back to her school board position.

Perry’s still Governor. Cornyn’s still Senator. They be working folks.

Marcus on February 5, 2013 at 9:20 AM

If by “bad imitation of Rubio” you mean someone who will hold that clown responsible for his amnesty pandering, I can get on board with that.

gryphon202 on February 5, 2013 at 9:14 AM

Umm.. No I don’t think that the Democratic mayor of San Antonio will be doing that. He’s the one on TV with his twin brother attached at the hip. They’re both really short and look goofy, so I always have an image of the munchkins and the Wizard of Oz when I see them.

He was wheeled out at the DNC Convention so that it looked like they had some sort of bench. See.. See we have a charismatic Latino guy as well! Bad imitation of Rubio without Rubio’s strengths (utterly forgetable) and with Rubio’s fluffiness amplified.

Illinidiva on February 5, 2013 at 9:24 AM

Perry’s still Governor. Cornyn’s still Senator. They be working folks.

Marcus on February 5, 2013 at 9:20 AM

You’re missing the point. Perry didn’t want to remain governor. He wanted to be president. As for Cornyn still being a senator, I’m perplexed as to how that can be positive for a principled conservative, but maybe therein lies the answer to the question.

gryphon202 on February 5, 2013 at 9:24 AM

LOL, as opposed to you, who worships at the altar of a woman who couldn’t be elected back to her school board position.

In the first place, I don’t worship her. Secondly, I’ve never made any comment about her of which I am ashamed. Ever. Unlike you with your TigerBeat for Rick gushings in the summer of 2011. Thirdly, if YOU say she couldn’t get elected to the school board, then she must be an inevitability as president of the United States, given the keenness of your political observations.

Perry’s still Governor.

Marcus on February 5, 2013 at 9:20 AM

Just as predicted.

ddrintn on February 5, 2013 at 9:26 AM

In the first place, I don’t worship her.

You better step back. That’s thrice you have denied Her.

Marcus on February 5, 2013 at 9:39 AM

Has Levin’s rant about this been posted here yet? 27 minute audio from his first hour today.
http://www.therightscoop.com/extended-audio-mark-levin-exposes-karl-rove-steven-j-law-and-why-they-are-bad-for-gop/#disqus_thread

Listening now. Love to hear him so fired up. He really hates Karl Rove.
karenhasfreedom on February 4, 2013 at 11:48 PM

Thank you!

Sherman1864 on February 5, 2013 at 9:41 AM

In the first place, I don’t worship her.

You better step back. That’s thrice you have denied Her.

Marcus on February 5, 2013 at 9:39 AM

Tell ya what, Marcus. You find the most worshipful, slavish, adoring comment of mine about Palin and I’ll do the same regarding your comments on Perry.

ddrintn on February 5, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Tell ya what, Marcus. You find the most worshipful, slavish, adoring comment of mine about Palin and I’ll do the same regarding your comments on Perry.

ddrintn on February 5, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Dibs on the popcorn concession! Dibs! DIBS — !!! ;)

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 9:43 AM

I’m always told what a worshiper of Palin I am, but no one ever cites any specific examples of my “Palin worship”. Time to call ‘em out.

ddrintn on February 5, 2013 at 9:44 AM

*crickets, as expected* LOL

ddrintn on February 5, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Sarah Palin is doing yeoman’s work in advancing conservative principles. Karl Rove? Eh, not so much.

/PalinWorship

gryphon202 on February 5, 2013 at 9:51 AM

*crickets, as expected* LOL

ddrintn on February 5, 2013 at 9:50 AM

[::tearfully watches massive investment in popcorn futures disappear in an online puff of smoke::] ;)

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 9:54 AM

You better step back. That’s thrice you have denied Her.

Marcus on February 5, 2013 at 9:39 AM

Rick Perry didn’t deny her:

http://www.rickperry.org/palin-letter

Garym on February 5, 2013 at 10:17 AM

“Leaders of the anti-tax Tea Party are fuming about plans by some Republican strategists, including Karl Rove, to tap the party’s wealthy donors and raise money to help ‘electable’ candidates win primary races.”

S’funny. From all of the self-righteous mewling and bleating by the usual noisy few, hereabouts, proclaiming themselves to be stout “TEA Party conservatives” — while simultaneously cheering on Turd Blossom’s scorched earth warfare against actual, y’know, voters and suchlike, mind — you’d just naturally figure something like this just… couldn’t… conceivably… be… HAPPENING. Right?

I said: right — ?

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 10:19 AM

He wanted our government to free from these interpretations because if the government was too involved in these intepretations it would cause the downfall of the republic (ie. I’m an Episcopalian and you probably wouldn’t like if I got to set public policy based on my religious beliefs).

21st century Episcopalians have religious beliefs? Couldda fooled me.

bw222 on February 5, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Well, they can, but all they can really hang their hats on are O’Donnell, Angle and a couple of others who weren’t even “Tea Party” candidates. The list of squishier losers is massive. And you can’t get much more spectacular than Romney’s epic failure.

ddrintn on February 5, 2013 at 9:19 AM

Yet they never mention Scott Brown, Tommy Thompson,Linda McMahon, George Allen or the other Senate losers Rove backed.

bw222 on February 5, 2013 at 6:18 PM

As long as the RINO’s are “in charge” of the (so called) Republican party, I won’t be voting for any of their establishment candidates.
I don’t care for Rove, or his ilk.
I stopped watching Fox New the day after the election.
They’ve become to wishy-washy for my tastes.

p51d007 on February 5, 2013 at 7:22 PM

With friends like Rove, who needs enemies.

Better idea than XRoads, Freedom Works.

Another better idea than XRoads, closed GOP primaries.

petefrt on February 5, 2013 at 8:27 PM

For conservatives and conservative libertarians, Cross Roads is Double-cross Roads.

If conservatives and conservative libertarians could unite, I’ll bet we’d outnumber the establishment GOP, then being able to reshape the party. The Tea Party could be the vehicle to take it home.

petefrt on February 5, 2013 at 8:41 PM

With friends like Rove, who needs enemies.

Better idea than XRoads, Freedom Works.

Another better idea than XRoads, closed GOP primaries.

petefrt on February 5, 2013 at 8:27 PM

XRoads have always been out for me; have no use for Rove.

Closed GOP Primaries is a must!!! Should have been done at the State level after (preferably before) the 2008 election. Outlaw the Caucuses also.

I agree with your 8:41PM comment also. We need to unite in order to have a chance against the Admin/Dems/Rove/RINOS!!!

bluefox on February 5, 2013 at 9:37 PM

OK,

Rove is back peddling, got a fraudian slip of the snake mouth tonight on Hannity, “uh Ted uh Tod Akin”

google Karl Rove / David Dewhurst

Snake mouth for pay Rove..”We at Conservative Crossroads did not need to get in the race in Texas.”

Of some note: “We”, not the big old “I” he is so used to using.

So, Karl what did you do for Dewhurst yourself and when and how much did you do.

can not trust him

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 5, 2013 at 9:38 PM

I agree with your 8:41PM comment also.

bluefox on February 5, 2013 at 9:37 PM

Went back to check what I said at 8:41PM and find it missing. Whatever the problem, it needs to be fixed.

petefrt on February 5, 2013 at 9:46 PM

Hey, we’re getting some help.

Former Rep. Walsh forming super-PAC to counter Rove

By Daniel Strauss – 02/05/13 12:18 PM ET

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/twitter-room/other-news/281163-former-rep-walsh-says-hes-forming-a-super-pac#ixzz2K5FBL0m6
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bluefox on February 5, 2013 at 9:51 PM

bluefox on February 5, 2013 at 9:37 PM

Went back to check what I said at 8:41PM and find it missing. Whatever the problem, it needs to be fixed.

petefrt on February 5, 2013 at 9:46 PM

It’s still showing for me. Here it is:

For conservatives and conservative libertarians, Cross Roads is Double-cross Roads.

If conservatives and conservative libertarians could unite, I’ll bet we’d outnumber the establishment GOP, then being able to reshape the party. The Tea Party could be the vehicle to take it home.

petefrt on February 5, 2013 at 8:41 PM

bluefox on February 5, 2013 at 9:53 PM

bluefox on February 5, 2013 at 9:53 PM

Thanks. Glad to hear it’s a problem of mine, not HA !

petefrt on February 5, 2013 at 9:54 PM

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 5, 2013 at 9:38 PM

Hmm, that was interesting. I heard they did support Dewhurst.

Don’t they have another PAC? I’ll see what I have on file.
I followed that race very closely.

Don’t know how you feel about McConnell, but Bozell has already run an ad against him in KY. Love it, myself.

bluefox on February 5, 2013 at 9:56 PM

petefrt on February 5, 2013 at 9:54 PM

Can’t have good comments disappearing:-)

bluefox on February 5, 2013 at 9:58 PM

McConnell is fine if your into the walking dead and or all things slow motion.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 5, 2013 at 10:05 PM

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 5, 2013 at 10:05 PM

LOL Levin said last night that Boehner/McConnell/Rove/ are involved in this new Xroads of Roves. That Mr. Law person is a former chief of Staff of McConnell, who is now head of Xroads.

Bozell is running ads against McConnell’s re-election, due to him making a deal with Biden on the fiscal cliff deal with the W.H.

bluefox on February 5, 2013 at 10:22 PM

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