Karl Rove’s Super PAC creating new group aimed at helping establishment candidates in GOP primaries

posted at 10:31 am on February 4, 2013 by Allahpundit

We knew this was coming, no? A month ago, Politico reported that Senate Republicans were planning to intervene more aggressively in GOP primaries in hopes of clearing the field for their preferred candidates. A few days later, Steve LaTourette announced that the Republican Main Street Partnership was dropping “Republican” from its name and would intervene on behalf of centrist candidates from both parties in congressional elections. Now here comes Rove’s group, American Crossroads, pledging untold millions towards electing the most allegedly “electable” candidate in Republican primaries. No more Akins — and maybe no more Marco Rubios, Rand Pauls, and Ted Cruzes too?

The group, the Conservative Victory Project, is intended to counter other organizations that have helped defeat establishment Republican candidates over the last two election cycles. It is the most robust attempt yet by Republicans to impose a new sense of discipline on the party, particularly in primary races.

“There is a broad concern about having blown a significant number of races because the wrong candidates were selected,” said Steven J. Law, the president of American Crossroads, the “super PAC” creating the new project. “We don’t view ourselves as being in the incumbent protection business, but we want to pick the most conservative candidate who can win.”…

The group’s plans, which were outlined for the first time last week in an interview with Mr. Law, call for hard-edge campaign tactics, including television advertising, against candidates whom party leaders see as unelectable and a drag on the efforts to win the Senate. Mr. Law cited Iowa as an example and said Republicans could no longer be squeamish about intervening in primary fights.

“We’re concerned about Steve King’s Todd Akin problem,” Mr. Law said. “This is an example of candidate discipline and how it would play in a general election. All of the things he’s said are going to be hung around his neck.”

Is it really about Steve King? Politico’s Jonathan Martin floats a compelling alternative theory:

Read Erick Erickson, Ben Shapiro, and the boss emeritus, all wondering why we should trust a guy like Rove who has TARP, Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind, huge federal deficits, and an abysmal record of 2012 election spending to his record. I said most of what I have to say about the big establishment pushback effort in the posts linked up top, but let me add three things:

1. I think in most cases the threat of a party’s nominee being badly damaged in the general by a tough primary is overblown (see, e.g., Obama vs. Hillary), but the threat increases a lot if one of the primary candidates is being attacked by his opponent as a crank and a nut. If the “crank” goes on to win, public opinion of him will likely have dropped enough by the time the general campaign begins that he’ll start in a deep hole polling-wise. Even if the “crank” loses, his supporters may be so alienated by the establishment GOP effort to demonize him that they stay home. Bad outcomes, either way.

2. Will the Conservative Victory Project target tea partiers based on their policy preferences or their penchant for saying “crank-ish” things? A guy like Cruz may vote much more conservatively than Rove et al. would prefer but it’s hard to imagine him stumbling onto a rhetorical landmine with national implications a la Akin. If they stick to going after candidates whose main liability is destructive soundbites, that might encourage grassroots candidates to be more circumspect in opining publicly on things like, oh, say, rape. If they’re going after people because, e.g., they oppose a path to citizenship, that’ll create much deeper, more bitter intraparty divisions.

3. Will they target races that involve open seats only, a la Iowa’s Senate seat, or will they actually go so far as to try to oust tea-party incumbents from Congress? That would be nuclear war in the GOP, so I assume no, it’ll only be open seats.

Exit quotation from Erickson: “I dare say any candidate who gets this group’s support should be targeted for destruction by the conservative movement.”

Update: Whole lotta money’s going to be spent in Republican primaries next year:

But the Club for Growth and the Senate Conservatives Fund, both of which boost candidates on the right, said the new group — which they mockingly nicknamed the “Conservative Defeat Project,” is another example of “the Republican establishment’s hostility toward its conservative base.”

“Rather than listening to the grassroots and working to advance their principles, the establishment has chosen to declare war on the party’s most loyal supporters,” said Matt Hoskins, executive director of the Senate Conservatives Fund…

“They are welcome to support the likes of Arlen Specter, Charlie Crist and David Dewhurst,” Keller said of the new Crossroads group. “We will continue to proudly support the likes of Pat Toomey, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz.”


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Karl Rove is dead to me!

KOOLAID2 on February 4, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Karl Rove’s Super PAC creating new group aimed at helping establishment candidates in GOP primaries

…new is old!

KOOLAID2 on February 4, 2013 at 10:36 AM

@michellemalkin: Kneel before Zod! GOP control freak Karl Rove launches new effort to snuff out #TeaParty. Bug off, Zod==> http://t.co/uhc8Uo5v

idesign on February 4, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Rove is as much a part of the problem as the rest of them.

We can have an awesome 2014 without a RINO at the top of the ticket dragging everyone else down.

Citizen-003528 on February 4, 2013 at 10:37 AM

…he’s still waiting for the numbers from Oiho to come in!

KOOLAID2 on February 4, 2013 at 10:38 AM

Did he look at the list of GOP Senators who voted additional arms for the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt? Yeah, I expect those guys are gonna need a superpac. /sarc

Murf76 on February 4, 2013 at 10:38 AM

Isn’t Rove pushing the amnesty as well? Don’t worry Rove, no republican will be elected once you get your legislation through.

Ukiah on February 4, 2013 at 10:39 AM

Fight for the Republican Party. I think this is a good thing.

gophergirl on February 4, 2013 at 10:39 AM


…pledging untold millions towards electing the most allegedly “electable” candidate in Republican primaries

Electable. You know. Like Romney.

apostic on February 4, 2013 at 10:39 AM

Conservatives vs Progs, Prog media and now Prog lites…

d1carter on February 4, 2013 at 10:40 AM

Good.

One or two more Akins will render our party unelectable for many years to come. No more.

KingGold on February 4, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Conservative Victory Project CandyAssRINO-PAC.

CorporatePiggy on February 4, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Seems to me this is a red state/blue state problem where the red states nominate good conservatives and with cross over voting by the Dems in blue states the Republicans often end up with the kookiest most unelectable witch or rape-ignorant candidates.

Marcus on February 4, 2013 at 10:42 AM

Rove’s group was a money black hole in 2012 but he makes a lot of his friends rich in the process of losing races. That’s one of the shames of Rick Perry not winning the nomination, he hates Rove, or at least his people do. so good old Karl would of had a hard time cashing in on being a influence peddler once it became clear no one would take his phone calls.

bannor on February 4, 2013 at 10:43 AM

Well something needs to be done. Instead of whining about Rove, propose an alternative.

Illinidiva on February 4, 2013 at 10:43 AM

As bad as his record was with Romney; it is no worse than Aiken’s, Mourdock’s, Angle’s, McDonnell’s, and the guy in Alaska who I can’t remember (just as the rest, easily forgettable).

If it in any way gets us to a GOP controlled Senate, that is a good thing.

Tater Salad on February 4, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Karl Rove is a liar and a back stabber. I agree with Erick:
Exit quotation from Erickson: “I dare say any candidate who gets this group’s support should be targeted for destruction by the conservative movement.”

I’m waiting for Sarah and depending on her selections. Karl Rove and the RINOS want a fight, well we are here and ready!! We are all Breitbart and more!!!!

Oh, and you can bet that “severely Conservative” is right on board with Rove et al.

bluefox on February 4, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Fox News just re-signed the multy-chinned meat bag for another year.

Watch Fox ratings drop like Reggie Loves shorts in the Oval office.

Mr. Arrogant on February 4, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Who are we kidding ourselves? Time for a third party!

jjnco73 on February 4, 2013 at 10:47 AM

We don’t view ourselves as being in the incumbent protection business, but we want to pick the most conservative candidate who can win.”…

Why is it that the dirtiest deceitful scum always tell you exactly why they intend to do something with a denial of it as a preface to their deceit?

It does save a truth seeker a lot of time figuring out their ulterior motives.

The left would do it this way: “we don’t want to hurt the children, but we think that abortion actually helps them because…..blah blah blah!

Don L on February 4, 2013 at 10:47 AM

The reasons to stay out of politics altogether until a third party starts to be developed that I can support begins to be developed.

If I don’t see any real action from anyone to develop a solid third party that I can support, then I’ll start the development of one myself and soon. Probably wait a few more weeks to see how Sequestration and debt ceiling debacle works out.

But this conaervative is completly done supporting a messed up Republican Party that because of establishment types can never nominate for president an acceptable choice.

I got a recent phone call from the RNC thanking me fory support last year…Hung up on him proudly.

Varchild on February 4, 2013 at 10:48 AM

I’m waiting for Sarah and depending on her selections. Karl Rove and the RINOS want a fight, well we are here and ready!! We are all Breitbart and more!!!!

bluefox on February 4, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Sarah Palin enthusiastically endorsed both New Hampshire (alleged) RINO Kelly Ayotte as well as Carly Fiorina, whose name always seems to pop up on laundry lists of “terrible establishment candidates.”

KingGold on February 4, 2013 at 10:49 AM

As bad as his record was with Romney; it is no worse than Aiken’s, Mourdock’s, Angle’s, McDonnell’s, and the guy in Alaska who I can’t remember (just as the rest, easily forgettable).

If it in any way gets us to a GOP controlled Senate, that is a good thing.

Tater Salad on February 4, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Which will never happen! Can you say Amnesty!

jjnco73 on February 4, 2013 at 10:49 AM

If it in any way gets us to a GOP controlled Senate, that is a good thing.

Tater Salad on February 4, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Gosh, Alinsky disciple, any means to an end?

Don L on February 4, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Good.

One or two more Akins will render our party unelectable for many years to come. No more.

KingGold on February 4, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Sorry Mold … but Aikins had NOTHING to do with your boy Willards trouncing.

He also had nothing to do with McCain’s loss in 2008.

He also had nothing to do with Dole’s loss in what? ’98?

He had nothing to do with Ms. Darling Establishment Carly Fiorino’s CREAMATION at the hands of Barbara Boxer.

He had nothing to do with Mr. Establishment Snottie Brown’s loss to a fake Indian.

Bro – your problem is – you want to dictate to the Republican voters who they can and can’t elect. But you’re forgetting something – a lot of us who vote for the GOP don’t give free BBBJ’s to establishment candidates like you do.

HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Electable. You know. Like Romney.

apostic on February 4, 2013 at 10:39 AM

I am still convinced that after Perry self-destructed, Romney was the best chance in 2012. Yeah, that’s how bad the choice was. Between Cain with his bimbo eruption, Gingrich with his baggage and his moon base, Santorum with his union-powered morality crusade, batshit crazy Bachmann, and Tim “Timid” Pawlenty, Romney looked like a juggernaut.

Archivarix on February 4, 2013 at 10:50 AM

I do think voters need to be a little more discerning during primary season; sometimes, going with someone just because they’re not the establishment pick isn’t a good idea. But, I don’t Rove will have much of an impact overall.

changer1701 on February 4, 2013 at 10:51 AM

Seems to me this is a red state/blue state problem where the red states nominate good conservatives and with cross over voting by the Dems in blue states the Republicans often end up with the kookiest most unelectable witch or rape-ignorant candidates.

Marcus on February 4, 2013 at 10:42 AM

Exactly. These States have been on notice since 2008 and have yet to fix it!! Only Registered Republicans should be allowed to vote in a Republican Primary or the General Election.

What the solution is we know, but how to effect it?

bluefox on February 4, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Sarah Palin enthusiastically endorsed both New Hampshire (alleged) RINO Kelly Ayotte as well as Carly Fiorina, whose name always seems to pop up on laundry lists of “terrible establishment candidates.”

KingGold on February 4, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Sorry man, but you’ve dished on Palin too many times to use her as an excuse for your failed establishment squishes.

In fact – it sounds really hypocritical coming from you considering that you care less than a plugged nickle for Sarah Palin.

HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Now we know who is for U.S. and who is aginst U.S..

Act accordingly.

Now no fear of this selfimportant loose elections over weight, over paid, over rated, egg head know it all.

Why?? you ask…

He supported David Dewhurst here in Texas over Ted Cruz, Dewhurst had the support of all the establishment, the Bush’s, Perry, and Dewhrust had all the money the Fed. had printed up to then.

Ted Cruz won, we won, U.S.A. won.

We will not win all these deals in every state.

But now they know it is not a given.

Now “We” know we can win and will win.

Of some side note: Fox News, is a sly “fox” in our hen house out back, this sly “fox” will not eat our chickens eggs unless they know we have no chance to win, they and Oriley etal are playing it safe cause they live by add revenue. They piss U.S. off they got no cash flow.

Hold their feet to the fire. Watch them day by day.

Our best bet now is to give more money to the NRA as they will at least help a conservative who will not attempt to disarm U.S..

Same can not be said for the likes that Rove etal help get elected.

Keep in mind at all time John McCain and his gangs.

The RNC gives McCain re-election money and put him up for Pres.

Do the same to the Republicans as we do the Democrats.

Judge them by what the do, not what they say or what they say they are.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 4, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Under your leadership Rove, WE LOST THE HOUSE BIG TIME and the Senate, because we nominate “people who could win”. (2006 election).

I will love to see his candidate lose to the tea party. If republicans want to win the primary they will have to tell Rove to rot in hell.

BroncosRock on February 4, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Remember in 2010 how all the Congressional races where non-establishment tea party candidates went down in flames and lost the House for us? Remember in 2012 when we ran the most electable establishment candidate possible instead of some tea party nut and took back the White House?

Yeah, me neither…

Shump on February 4, 2013 at 10:53 AM

If it in any way gets us to a GOP controlled Senate, that is a good thing.

Tater Salad on February 4, 2013 at 10:45 AM
Gosh, Alinsky disciple, any means to an end?

Don L on February 4, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Not an Alinsky disciple, but did the crew I’m speaking of reflect your views and make you feel proud of your party? We may not need a purity test, but at least we could have an IQ test for some of our candidates.

Tater Salad on February 4, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Rove hasn’t had a win since 2004 and was so spectacularly wrong in 2012 that I question the thinking of anyone who would give him large amounts of money. As I have said a ridiculous number of times, Sen. Cornyn endorsed Charlies Crist before the primaries. Some of you may be disappointed in Rubio but he sure as heck isn’t Charlie Crist.

Cindy Munford on February 4, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Under your leadership Rove, WE LOST THE HOUSE BIG TIME and the Senate, because we nominate “people who could win”. (2006 election).

I will love to see his candidate lose to the tea party. If republicans want to win the primary they will have to tell Rove to rot in hell.

BroncosRock on February 4, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Rove was always highly overrated. His campaign against AlGore ended with an almost stalemated election.

His campaign against Kerry was almost equally as bad.

Rove had a VERY hard time in both cases beating Democratic candidates that were both proven to mentally unstable later.

HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 10:55 AM

D O R K !

KOOLAID2 on February 4, 2013 at 10:55 AM

Sarah Palin enthusiastically endorsed both New Hampshire (alleged) RINO Kelly Ayotte as well as Carly Fiorina, whose name always seems to pop up on laundry lists of “terrible establishment candidates.”

KingGold on February 4, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Kelly Ayotte would be a RINO in Kentucky or Utah, but by New Hampshire standards she’s a loyal Tea Party stalwart. As for iCarly, get used to the idea that California statewide election is not physically winnable by anyone with (R) after a name; Schwarzenegger was an exception due to his immense personal fortune, huge out-of-politics popularity, and Kennedy Clan’s blessing secured by his consent to sleep with the hag they hoisted on him.

Archivarix on February 4, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Toomey, Rubio, Paul and Cruz were always electable. If they’re going after cranks like Akin, thats fine by me.

tommy71 on February 4, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Rove hasn’t had a win since 2004 and was so spectacularly wrong in 2012 that I question the thinking of anyone who would give him large amounts of money. As I have said a ridiculous number of times, Sen. Cornyn endorsed Charlies Crist before the primaries. Some of you may be disappointed in Rubio but he sure as heck isn’t Charlie Crist.

Cindy Munford on February 4, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Not yet, but, it’s early in his career!

jjnco73 on February 4, 2013 at 10:56 AM

HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 10:52 AM

She endorsed both of those candidates. Statement of fact, not opinion. And for the record, those were both wise endorsements, in my opinion.

You want to worship the woman and take counsel from her every decision, you don’t get to disavow those decisions whose outcomes you didn’t like.

KingGold on February 4, 2013 at 10:57 AM

Not an Alinsky disciple, but did the crew I’m speaking of reflect your views and make you feel proud of your party? We may not need a purity test, but at least we could have an IQ test for some of our candidates.

Tater Salad on February 4, 2013 at 10:54 AM

does the establishment make you proud of your party? Does 50 years of BS promises to cut government make you proud? Sure – the establishment is smooth – they won’t say anything wrong like Aikin did – but then again, this nation is Socialist now because of those fools and electing more will only get you more socialism.

You guys BIT$H about “professional politicians” and you lament the fact that more “real people” don’t run. NEWSFLASH – REAL PEOPLE sometimes make mistakes on the podium (though they make damn few of them in their Congressional desks).

I guess you prefer style to substance. Good luck with that.

HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 10:58 AM

HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Love how the guy who voted for Obama twice as well as Warren for Senate is providing the Republican Party with advice on electing candidates.. Leftists not only want to choose the Democratic nominees, but also the Republican that will be the election’s loser.

And yes the Tea Party House Candidates did better. This was because Cantor, McCarthy, and Ryan already recruit good candidates.

Illinidiva on February 4, 2013 at 10:58 AM

She endorsed both of those candidates. Statement of fact, not opinion. And for the record, those were both wise endorsements, in my opinion.

You want to worship the woman and take counsel from her every decision, you don’t get to disavow those decisions whose outcomes you didn’t like.

KingGold on February 4, 2013 at 10:57 AM

Who gives a sh*t? Sarah Palin’s endorsement of those establishment squishes didn’t make them any more conservative fool.

HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Because protecting the status quo is all he’s interested in. That’s his society. If we want to really change the Republican party(i.e., actually make it conservative), we need to primary as much as possible. Not every single case, but at least put real pressure on RINOs and lifers. Put them on notice. The GOP is in serious danger of losing the base all together.

Dongemaharu on February 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM

I got a recent phone call from the RNC thanking me fory support last year…Hung up on him proudly.

Varchild on February 4, 2013 at 10:48 AM

Good for you. Starve the Beast. Our money needs to go the Candidate that WE pick, not the RNC/Rove/Bushies/RINOS!! That is how we got the Conservatives we did in 2010/2012, in spite of that group that fought against the Tea Party and the Conservatives.

bluefox on February 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Archivarix on February 4, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Yes, I know. On both counts. That’s why I wrote what I wrote.

Half the people who post here, however, think that every state is Texas, and ergo a Mike Lee or Rand Paul can win everywhere – and therefore should be nominated everywhere.

KingGold on February 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Funny, I thought Crossroads was already doing this.

Rove’s action will do the very opposite of what he’s claiming. It’s going to consign the GOP into permanent minority status. Rather than focus on first principles, he wants to focus on elections. That’s exactly backwards.

The GOP needs to be able to credibly offer an alternative to what the Democrats are pushing, which isn’t accomplished by supporting Dem-Lite candidates.

And lest we forget, Rove had the GOP supporting Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey.

JohnTant on February 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM

@TexMex817: Go Team #CrushRove

idesign on February 4, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Alinsky them. anyone who donates to his Super Pac should be outed.

earlgrey133 on February 4, 2013 at 11:01 AM

jjnco73 on February 4, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Yep, he should definitely be watched.

Cindy Munford on February 4, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Love how the guy who voted for Obama twice as well as Warren for Senate is providing the Republican Party with advice on electing candidates.. Leftists not only want to choose the Democratic nominees, but also the Republican that will be the election’s loser.

And yes the Tea Party House Candidates did better. This was because Cantor, McCarthy, and Ryan already recruit good candidates.

Illinidiva on February 4, 2013 at 10:58 AM

Let me correct you a bit … yeah, I voted for Obama.

No, I didn’t vote for Fauxahontas because I don’t live in Mass. I had to settle for sending her $500 – money well spent to kick that RINO Snot Brown out of his seat.

Now – the reason I did those things is because, long before any you started complaining – I garnered more sheer hatred for the GOP establishment than I did the Dims.

And … the GOP won’t EVER get my support again until the establishment is politically exterminated and we can move forward with real conservatives at the helm.

It’s all wasted effort (and money) until you get the GOP into shape.

HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Sorry Mold … but Aikins had NOTHING to do with your boy Willards trouncing.

HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Actually not, clown-boy. Romney outperformed TruCons in about 99% of other races across the board – maybe even 100%.

crrr6 on February 4, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Why would those who consider themselves on the “right”, fight an effort to get more Republicans elected? I live in Texas and it’s easy to see why we got Cruz elected, however he may not have won in places like NY, NJ, or MA. We need to quit trying for some sort of purity (purity is only pure in the eyes of the beholder) and expand the small government conservative movement at every level possible.

Heck, if we can make MA, for example, just a little more conservative, that is a good thing.

Tater Salad on February 4, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Hopefully Rove will be as successful as he was in 2012.

One of the few sweet takeaways last year was seeing Cruz beat the RINO machine.

CorporatePiggy on February 4, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Actually not, clown-boy. Romney outperformed TruCons in about 99% of other races across the board – maybe even 100%.

crrr6 on February 4, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Name ‘em? You talking about Aikins? Oh woopie – Willard did better than Aiken.

How bout this – Aiken lost to McCaskill by about the same margin as Snot Brown lost to a fake indian.

The difference is – the GOP poured MILLIONS into Snot Brown and not a penny into Aiken.

Chew on that.

HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 11:04 AM

He supported David Dewhurst here in Texas over Ted Cruz, Dewhurst had the support of all the establishment, the Bush’s, Perry, and Dewhrust had all the money the Fed. had printed up to then.

Ted Cruz won, we won, U.S.A. won.

Dewhurst was a sitting Lieutenant Governor and of course would have their support. And he had Mike Huckabee’s too. I was a major Cruz supporter but believe me, I could probably have lived with Dewhurst in the Senate. Jeez, in Texas you have to be BLOOD red versus red, while everywhere else sometimes were lucky if we get a light pink.

Marcus on February 4, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Why would those who consider themselves on the “right”,

Tater Salad on February 4, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Because establishment republicans aren NOT a part of the right and break the promises they make to cut government.

That’s why.

Well, you asked.

HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 11:06 AM

Happy to see Rove do this. No more Todd Akins!

bluegill on February 4, 2013 at 11:06 AM

Half the people who post here, however, think that every state is Texas, and ergo a Mike Lee or Rand Paul can win everywhere – and therefore should be nominated everywhere.

KingGold on February 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM

I don’t know much about Mike Lee but Rand Paul doesn’t strike me as a radical Tea Party bomb-thrower. While the idea of adhering to the Constitution *is* extreme radicalism for the Marxist left, he’s of the sort that is awfully hard to denigrate – and trying to hang his father’s legacy over his neck will instantly add him 5-6% votes that otherwise go to Gary Johnson types and Cthulhu write-ins.

Archivarix on February 4, 2013 at 11:07 AM

HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 11:06 AM

Tater Salad was referring to folks like you, dopey.

KingGold on February 4, 2013 at 11:07 AM

I was a major Cruz supporter but believe me, I could probably have lived with Dewhurst in the Senate.

Marcus on February 4, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Yeah but aren’t you tickled pink with Cruz?

HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Making a list, checking it twice..:)

KingGold

Marcus

Illinidiva

Tater Salad

idesign on February 4, 2013 at 11:07 AM

As bad as his record was with Romney; it is no worse than Aiken’s, Mourdock’s, Angle’s, McDonnell’s, and the guy in Alaska who I can’t remember (just as the rest, easily forgettable).

If it in any way gets us to a GOP controlled Senate, that is a good thing.

Tater Salad on February 4, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Here’s the problem. Achin’ wasn’t the Tea Party’s choice in Missouri. Most grassroots activists were p-ssed when he won because we all knew he was being set up as a patsy for McCasket. The only surprise was how quick and epic his flameout would be.

Angle was a Tea Party candidate, but I’ll repeat what I’ve been saying for over 2 years. Who would’ve done better? Louden? She made that idiotic remark about doctors and bartering. Who’s to say she wouldn’t have made even dumber statements in the general election than Angle? Tarkanian? He placed third in the primary, so it’s laughable to think that he would’ve been a more formidable challenger to Harry Reid. Let’s face it. Reid had money and influence and got union voters to turn out in droves. That’s the lesson we should be taking from that Senate race(and the 2012 Presidential election for that matter). Not nitpicking over which other equally mediocre candidate might’ve fared better.

Mourdock? Yes he was a Tea Party candidate and yes he made a dumb remark about rape(although nowhere near as bad as Achin’s). But the real reason he lost was because the GOP powerbrokers abandoned him after he knocked off Lugar in the primary. There was no excuse for Romney to dominate by more than 10 points in Indiana, yet the Democrat Senate candidate wins by nearly 6. The GOP establishment has to get over this sore loser mentality. Especially in reliably red states like Indiana that should be gimmes.

Joe Miller? Please. Dude would’ve won his race handily had Leena Micklewhite not stabbed him in the back and waged a write-in campaign. And the GOP Beltway crowd did us no favors by sitting back and allowing Murky-sky to jeopardize a gimme Senate race like that. She did end up winning, so at least there wasn’t a split vote allowing the Dems to steal the seat. But if the GOP was serious like Rove claims about doing everything in their power to win as many Senate races as possible, they would exert more control over primary losers so this crap doesn’t happen.

O’Donnell(not McDonnell)? That’s maybe the only example the GOP establishment can cite where the Tea Party potentially cost the Republicans a Senate seat. And even there, it’s not like Castle was as shoo-in. In a state as blue as Delaware, he had a 50/50 shot. And considering he was one of only 8 House Republicans to vote for crap-and-betrayed in 2009(which BTW helped cost him the primary), he wouldn’t have exactly been a solid conservative vote had he made it to the Senate.

But now let’s look at the track record of the GOP establishment and liberal wing of the party in Senate races in 2010 and 2012. They gave us losers like Tommy Thompson, Connie Mack, Carly Fiorina, Linda McMahon(twice), George Allen, and Dino Rossi. They also tried to give us Chuck Crist, David Dewhurst, and Trey Grayson instead of Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, and Rand Paul. So no offense to the likes of Karl Rove, John Cornyn, and the rest of the GOP bigwigs, but they better take a good long look in the mirror and get their own sh-t together before they start lashing out at the grassroots activists who BTW handed them the House in 2010 since it’s pretty damn clear Michael Steele didn’t know what the hell he was doing over at the RNC.

Doughboy on February 4, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Fxxx Yxxx Turd Blossom!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turd_Blossom

SOB undermines any Republican candidate that refuse to hire him. He hasn’t had a win since 2004!!!!

patch on February 4, 2013 at 11:08 AM

Go Away Rove…You have enough money in your pockets!!

workingclass artist on February 4, 2013 at 11:08 AM

idesign on February 4, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Oh noes! I hate crappy incompetent candidates, and people who think that conservatives are never ever wrong don’t like that!

Pal, I’ve been doing this since I joined in early ’09. There’s nothing new here.

KingGold on February 4, 2013 at 11:10 AM

Do the same to the Republicans as we do the Democrats.

Judge them by what the do, not what they say or what they say they are.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 4, 2013 at 10:52 AM

That is exactly how I’m going to judge Rove & his RINO group. Whoever they back, we’ll treat that Candidate as a Dem. We ignored Rove,et al before and we’ll do it again. They all hate Sarah/Tea Party groups and Conservatives and we best remember that!!

I agree with the rest of your comments also:-)

bluefox on February 4, 2013 at 11:10 AM

Happy to see Rove do this. No more Todd Akins!

bluegill on February 4, 2013 at 11:06 AM

Yeah! What this party needs is more Mitch McConnells and Crying Boehners!!!

Moe a dat please?

And besides … it’s Rove man … you know … “HEY ROMNEY HASN’T LOST OHIO YET DAMMIT!! FOX NEWS ARE COMMIES!!”

Yeah – this ain’t going no where.

Most of Rove’s candidates lost last time around – all that money donated to American Crossroads … WASTED.

You think those donors are going to invest in Karl Rove again you got another thing comin.

HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 11:10 AM

I haven’t been a Tea Party member since Chicago. The Lubbock Tea Party is so over-run with Jones-bots/Ronulans/birchers that it really should be disbanded. If roves wants to attack the TP…he can start the ‘revolution’ in westTexas.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 4, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Tater Salad on February 4, 2013 at 11:03 AM

I don’t know. I agree that you aren’t going to get the same type of Republican all over the country but my problem is that the type that are elected in NJ and MA and NY are held up to be the prototype of what the party is looking for. I keep hearing about this so called Southern strategy but from what I can see the strategy consists of denigrating and dismissing. I do wonder if there is any evidence that former Sen. Brown lost because he decided to run away from the Tea Party. Hard to believe, considering candidate Warren, that it didn’t have a lot to do with his loss.

Cindy Munford on February 4, 2013 at 11:11 AM

20/20 hindsight, Phyllis Schlafly’s A Choice Not an Echo is still worth reading.

Fallon on February 4, 2013 at 11:11 AM

They all hate Sarah/Tea Party groups and Conservatives and we best remember that!!

I agree with the rest of your comments also:-)

bluefox on February 4, 2013 at 11:10 AM

That’s really it … the establishment needs to be taught a good lesson for their attacks on conservatism. They wrecked this nation – all Ogabe is doing is piloting the plane to the scene of the crash.

We’ll pick up the pieces after we’ve politically buried the Roves and the Boehners of the establishment.

HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 11:12 AM

Happy to see Rove do this. No more Todd Akins!

bluegill on February 4, 2013 at 11:06 AM

Of course you are.

Cindy Munford on February 4, 2013 at 11:13 AM

Good rule of thumb for HotAir readers:

Whatever the bigmouth HondaV65 (who loves to hear himself blather on) says to do…
Do the opposite!

So, HondaV65 is pissed off about Rove going after the unelectable cranks in the primaries? Then Rove must be doing the right thing!

This rule works every time.

bluegill on February 4, 2013 at 11:13 AM

The battle for the heart and soul of the Republican Party has begun. On one side is the Tea Party. On the other side stand Karl Rove and his establishment team, posing as tacticians while quietly undermining conservatism.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/02/03/Rove-declares-war-Tea-Party

idesign on February 4, 2013 at 11:13 AM

I do wonder if there is any evidence that former Sen. Brown lost because he decided to run away from the Tea Party.

Cindy Munford on February 4, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Fauxahontas got $500 dollars of my money because I was outright disgusted with the way Snott Brown had treated the Tea Party after they mobilized NATIONWIDE in 2010 to get him elected.

It was the best five bills I’ve ever spent.

HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 11:14 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on February 4, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Get with the folks you worked with for Cruz and start your own. I bet you could make a huge difference.

Cindy Munford on February 4, 2013 at 11:14 AM

Of Some Note:

First principles.

With Karl Rove, what you see is what you get.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 4, 2013 at 11:14 AM

And … the GOP won’t EVER get my support again until the establishment is politically exterminated and we can move forward with real conservatives at the helm.

It’s all wasted effort (and money) until you get the GOP into shape.

HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Well, we won’t ever get the GOP in shape by sitting back and doing nothing to accomplish that. Support our Conservative Candidates, that is how we rid ourselves of the RINOS that are in bed with the Dems and US!!!

bluefox on February 4, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Just for the record, Romney got more votes than Mourdock in IN, Aikin in MO, and Mandell in OH. Didn’t make him the best candidate, just better than what we had running in th Senate races.

PS. He got more votes than Cruz in TX.

Tater Salad on February 4, 2013 at 11:15 AM

bluegill on February 4, 2013 at 11:13 AM

Irony Alert!!!

Cindy Munford on February 4, 2013 at 11:15 AM

I do wonder if there is any evidence that former Sen. Brown lost because he decided to run away from the Tea Party. Hard to believe, considering candidate Warren, that it didn’t have a lot to do with his loss.

Cindy Munford on February 4, 2013 at 11:11 AM

I think you should apply Occam’s Razor before you draw that conclusion. Let’s put aside that he “ran away from the tea party” for a moment – it’s not as if he lied about his positions in 2010. He voted against Obamacare implementation, and voted for more defense funding.

Brown lost chiefly because he had a hard race to run to begin with. Massachusetts is not South Dakota. Democrats can be terrible there and still win – after all, Ted Kennedy killed a woman and served for about forty years. Obama was at the top of the ticket, and Warren was plugged in to the donor base and the activist left. Simple as that.

KingGold on February 4, 2013 at 11:15 AM

So, HondaV65 is pissed off about Rove going after the unelectable cranks in the primaries? Then Rove must be doing the right thing!

This rule works every time.

bluegill on February 4, 2013 at 11:13 AM

It doesn’t work everytime – since your boy Rove’s main man … Willard, got his ass whipped by the worst President in history.

And then Rove melted down on primetime news on Fox.

And then all his donors started calling him the next day saying … “What good did all our money do?”

Yeah good luck with Rove – he’s a has-been. Actually, he’s a “never-was”

HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Rove, get your friggin’ feet off the stage! Don’t go away mad, just go away.

College Prof on February 4, 2013 at 11:16 AM

Photoshoppers Go Wild!

Bammy’s Got A Gun

Bammy’s Got A Gun – II

Resist We Much on February 4, 2013 at 11:16 AM

Get with the folks you worked with for Cruz and start your own. I bet you could make a huge difference.

Cindy Munford on February 4, 2013 at 11:14 AM

Yes and in addition, why couldn’t those Conservatives we know and trust in the House & Senate make a referral? I’m sure Cruz, Rand Paul, King (IA), Sessions and more could recommend a good Candidate.

bluefox on February 4, 2013 at 11:17 AM

HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 11:14 AM

I don’t know if I could do what you did but I have been toying with changing my affiliation. I don’t see Rove’s move as ideological but a competition in fund raising. I am positive that our ideas on the meaning of conservative are vastly different.

Cindy Munford on February 4, 2013 at 11:18 AM

I see the establishment still wants to eat their young. The RNC will never see a single penny from me nor will any PAC that doesn’t put America first. Party loyalty is not going to save our Nation.

D-fusit on February 4, 2013 at 11:18 AM

Cindy Munford on February 4, 2013 at 11:14 AM

Ronulan supported Cruz-so here, many are one and the same. *sigh*

annoyinglittletwerp on February 4, 2013 at 11:19 AM

I would much prefer these outside groups to take on the establishment media that has as its mission to destroy any conservative and Republican candidates.

Morning Joe already savaging Ken Cuchinelli, Rand Paul and won’t even mention Ted Cruz’ name? And yet no mention of Bob Menendez?

monalisa on February 4, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Hilariously, this new organization designed to protect establishment Republicans from being challenged by actual conservatives has the audacity to call their entity the Conservative Victory Project when in reality it should be called “RinoPAC”:

idesign on February 4, 2013 at 11:20 AM

Xroads should buy TV stations and leave conservatism to people who care about it.

Speakup on February 4, 2013 at 11:21 AM

Any Republican that voted to keep Boehner in power should be primaried. Period.

Mr. Arrogant on February 4, 2013 at 11:21 AM

Name ‘em? You talking about Aikins? Oh woopie – Willard did better than Aiken.

HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Akin, Mourdock, Cruz, Allen, Mandel, Mack. Besides Heller in NV, I can’t think of a single contested senate seat in which Romney was outperformed by the GOP senatorial candidate.

You are an idiot.

crrr6 on February 4, 2013 at 11:21 AM

I think we should use this picture on all Karl Rove stories in the future.

http://www.usnews.com/pubdbimages/image/39805/FE_DA_1112_Karl_Rove425x283.jpg

Or one day hopefully this one …

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/61/159632406_dd9357f8a1.jpg

HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 11:22 AM

@michellemalkin: Karl Zod Rove and his Incumbency Protection Racket are the problem, not the #TeaParty. ===> http://t.co/uhc8Uo5v

idesign on February 4, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Akin, Mourdock, Cruz, Allen, Mandel, Mack. Besides Heller in NV, I can’t think of a single contested senate seat in which Romney was outperformed by the GOP senatorial candidate.

You are an idiot.

crrr6 on February 4, 2013 at 11:21 AM

I have to confess you’re right … it’s much better to gain the votes Willard did and have him LOSE than it is for Ted Cruz to pull fewer votes and yet still win.

With winners like you boy I tell ya …

HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 11:24 AM

bluefox on February 4, 2013 at 10:45 AM
Sarah Palin enthusiastically endorsed both New Hampshire (alleged) RINO Kelly Ayotte as well as Carly Fiorina, whose name always seems to pop up on laundry lists of “terrible establishment candidates.”

KingGold on February 4, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Oh, I see. You’re looking for Perfection. You won’t find it on this earth. But Sarah has a much better success rate that Rove, etal has.

We know Sarah is FOR America, whereas Rove and his Group is NOT.

Vote with Rove then.

bluefox on February 4, 2013 at 11:24 AM

KingGold on February 4, 2013 at 11:15 AM

I don’t know, I was not surprised about his record once elected, I take into consideration who he is representing. When he was elected and as he campaigned, he thanked those folks for their hard work. During his reelection he verbally ran from them. I think that was stupid and I also think that Warren was weak weak candidate. I doubt the Tea Party wants to go down the path of welfare queens as being a sure thing for their party. They have taken a lot of abuse and been the target of too many outright lies not try to accomplish less government spending and regulations.

Cindy Munford on February 4, 2013 at 11:25 AM

@michellemalkin: Karl Zod Rove and his Incumbency Protection Racket are the problem, not the #TeaParty. ===> http://t.co/uhc8Uo5v

idesign on February 4, 2013 at 11:23 AM

The 2010 HISTORIC VICTORIES were NOT the result of any establishment that is for certain.

That was tea party all the way baby.

Problem is … the establishment has now sh*t all over the TP and the TP don’t want to play ball with a bunch of liars. Something has to give – I say we string up the liars.

That’s just me though.

HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 11:26 AM

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