Chris Kyle, “American Sniper,” killed in Texas

posted at 9:31 am on February 3, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

Some tragic news comes to us out of Texas this weekend. Chris Kyle, the most prolific and successful sniper in the history of US special forces, was murdered along with another individual in Texas. The Navy Seal was 39 years old.

A man is under arrest in connection with the killing of two men at an Erath County, Texas, gun range, police said.

One of the victims is reportedly former Navy SEAL and best-selling author Chris Kyle…

The suspect, identified as Eddie Routh, 25, was arrested in Lancaster, Texas, after a brief police chase, a Lancaster Police Department dispatcher told ABC News.

Routh was driving Kyle’s truck at the time of his arrest and was held awaiting transfer to Texas Rangers, according to police.

Routh is described as “a former Marine suffering from post-traumatic stress syndrome.”

Kyle’s record, detailed at the link above, is nothing short of incredible. In addition to his record setting, 150+ confirmed kills, he was recognized with 2 Silver Stars, 5 Bronze Stars with Valor, 2 Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medals and more. He went on to literally “write the book” for the military training for snipers. Upon completion of his service, Kyle dedicated his time to helping other returning, wounded warriors.

His book, “American Sniper” is also a must read if you happened to miss it. It’s been out since 2012, so you can probably pick up a copy at a discount these days. This is a terrible loss and a sad day. Our thoughts and prayers are with Kyle’s family and friends, along with those of the other victim in this attack, who has not yet been named.
UPDATE: (Jazz) Thanks to our alert readers:

The second victim was identified early Sunday morning as 35-year-old Chad Littlefield of Midlothian.

Our condolences to the Littlefield family as well.


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But there’s no more western frontier

libfreeordie on February 3, 2013 at 12:55 PM

There’s still men that want to make it with children though, right professor?

hawkdriver on February 3, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Mass Shooter Confesses He Learned to Hate White People in College

Nkosi Thandiwe shot dead 26-year-old Brittany Watts and and injured two other women in the parking deck of the Proscenium building on July 15, 2011.

Thankiwe confessed that he shot the three white women after he learned to hate white people in college.

That sounds about right.

The Atlanta Journal Constitution reported:

During his testimony Wednesday, Thandiwe suggested that his reason for even purchasing the gun he used in the shootings was to enforce beliefs he’d developed about white people during his later years as an anthropology major at the University of West Georgia.

“I was trying to prove a point that Europeans had colonized the world, and as a result of that, we see a lot of evil today,” he said. “In terms of slavery, it was something that needed to be answered for. I was trying to spread the message of making white people mend.”

He said the night before the shooting, he attended a so-called “Peace Party” intended to address his concerns about helping the black community find equal footing, but two white people were there.

“I was upset,” Thandiwe said. “I was still upset Friday. I took the gun to work because I was still upset from Thursday night.”

Nkosi Thandiwe was found guilty of murdering a woman and wounding two others in a 2011 Midtown shooting spree was sentenced to life without parole plus 65 years in prison.

DBear, would you like to tell us how Nkosi Thandiwe is an “uber-Christian” and “pro-life” radical right-winger because he committed these violent acts and, according to you, only “uber-Christian,” “pro-life” people are violent?

Libenslavedthendie, would you like to call me “the most openly white supremacist member of this board,” again, and display your sheer moonbattery? Maybe, one of your students will go on a Thandiwean-style rampage some day since you probably tell them that everything is MY fault even though no one in my family ever owned slaves.

Resist We Much on February 3, 2013 at 5:38 PM

This…

Nkosi Thandiwe shot dead 26-year-old Brittany Watts and and injured two other women in the parking deck of the Proscenium building on July 15, 2011.

Thankiwe confessed that he shot the three white women after he learned to hate white people in college.

That sounds about right.

The Atlanta Journal Constitution reported:

…should have been within the quote box.

Resist We Much on February 3, 2013 at 5:39 PM

I feel the same way about you, just replace “guns” with “progressive movement.” You are under some kind of delusion that if you hold onto your guns you could actually do something if the government tried to come for you. They have *drones* dude, you’re not going to win a military fight against this government, and you need to back up off those fantasies. Its all about you being a dude with the need to conquer and control something. But there’s no more western frontier, the U.S. isn’t about to take over any other nations any time soon, women and racial minorities are full citizens there’s just nothing. left. for you is there? So now the government. A threat so large and shadowy and based in absolutely nothing real, it fulfills all your paranoid delusions. And you call me sheltered? Child boo.

libfreeordie on February 3, 2013 at 12:55 PM

This is the typical liberal response to gun owners, and it displays their stupidity.

The government would need to occupy and police its own population in order to disarm and keep everyone in line, that requires a human presence, not drones and fighter jets.

You know what else requires a human presence? The manufacturing facilities for the missiles which arm the drones and jets, the oild refineries which produce the fuel they run on, and the tax base which funds their development and operation. Were the government truly to wage war on its people, their firepower would dry up fast while their own tax base is waging guerrilla war against them.

Then there’s nukes, but what benefit would it be for the government to radiate the very lands they wish to control?

If anything, you’re making the case for military style weapons to be available to the civilian population.

Daemonocracy on February 3, 2013 at 5:43 PM

I also find it funny that you liberals who were so convinced Bush was about to declare martial law suddenly think the Federal government is 100% pure and the second amendment is obsolete.

Daemonocracy on February 3, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Daemonocracy on February 3, 2013 at 5:43 PM

When you look at the attitudes of many liberals in regards to the government’s role, collectivism, and our ability to stand up to our own government it is quite clear. They have quit. They’re a bunch of losers.

CW on February 3, 2013 at 5:56 PM

actually denying the fact that most human beings are not built for war. War destroys the body and/or the psyche more often than not. Human beings are simply not equipped.

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Hey Lib – that’s the same argument against your and your sexual preference being anything of a biological nature.

I like how you junped to a conclusion as to why Kyle was there. Haven’t bothered to check to see if if you’ve apologized, because it doesn’t matter.

You’re allowed to be a bigot with special govt protections.

They have *drones* dude, you’re not going to win a military fight against this government, and you need to back up off those fantasies.

Like the Syrians should give up.

Or how the Kurds should have given up.

Or how the Afghans surrendered to the Soviets, and us, without a shot.

No one should resist the government when they come down on its people. Why? Because you can’t win.

Expect if you’re Black Block/Anonymous, or some romanticized prog nonsense. Then, well, Che lives!

You’re an idiot, Lib. I keep telling you this. You lub the guvment because you couldn’t survive without the guvment.

budfox on February 3, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Some tragic news…

Tragic indeed. So sad.

Thank you, Chris. RIP

petefrt on February 3, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Tragic indeed. So sad.

Thank you, Chris. RIP

petefrt on February 3, 2013 at 6:37 PM

I agree 100%. Now we have to wait to find out why this man killed him and the other man.

SC.Charlie on February 3, 2013 at 7:05 PM

Just returned, saw this, very sad.

RIP Good Sirs.

Bmore on February 3, 2013 at 7:12 PM

Routh is described as “a former Marine suffering from post-traumatic stress syndrome.”

Sure are a lot of new age disorders blamed for murder these days. The one in Newtown was “autistic”. No murder prior to, I don’t know, 1980 or something, was excused/blamed on the basis of these supposed disorders.

Buddahpundit on February 3, 2013 at 7:27 PM

Buddahpundit on February 3, 2013 at 7:27 PM

Twinkie defence, late 70s. :-)

Resist We Much on February 3, 2013 at 7:32 PM

I also find it funny that you liberals who were so convinced Bush was about to declare martial law suddenly think the Federal government is 100% pure and the second amendment is obsolete.

Daemonocracy on February 3, 2013 at 5:46 PM

~~~~~~~~~

Excellent point!!

ellifint on February 3, 2013 at 7:50 PM

Like the Syrians should give up.

Or how the Kurds should have given up.

Or how the Afghans surrendered to the Soviets, and us, without a shot.

No one should resist the government when they come down on its people. Why? Because you can’t win.

Expect if you’re Black Block/Anonymous, or some romanticized prog nonsense. Then, well, Che lives!

You’re an idiot, Lib. I keep telling you this. You lub the guvment because you couldn’t survive without the guvment.

budfox on February 3, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Liberals are quitters.

CW on February 3, 2013 at 8:09 PM

The night is cool
The wind is high
A wave of light
Breaks through the sky

He will be warm
Now that he is there
In golden fields
And easy air

PercyB on February 3, 2013 at 8:14 PM

why are the “pro-life” “uber-christian” folks the most violent, paranoid, war-mongering, gun-loving lunatics out there?

DBear on February 3, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Because the media likes to paint it this way, despite pretty much every single violent act in the last five years attributed to the Tea Party turned out having nothing to do with them, and in a number of cases turned out to be the opposite.

In short, because you’re gullible and prone to confirmation bias.

The Schaef on February 3, 2013 at 8:58 PM

This is truly horrible. Chris Kyle was a genuine hero and an honorable man. Read his book if you get a chance, it gives you insight into the character of a man who we are producing far too few of.
As an American I am also grateful for his service and his skill in sending terrorists to hell.
As a former Sailor I am grateful for his character, from telling people to take their cap off during the national anthem to punching Jesse Ventura in the face (was long overdue if only for claiming to have been a SEAL who fought in Vietnam when he was actually a Frogman scraping barnacles in the Philippines) for wishing our SEALs dead in Iraq.
I wonder if this scumbag who shot him is an Alex Jones cultist who believed the BS about Kyle that he has been peddling.
Christ, this is terrible news. Someone should set up a fund for his wife and children as he donated the proceeds of his book to the family members of the SEALs who were killed on his team.
Thank you, Mr. Kyle. Fair winds and following seas.

V7_Sport on February 3, 2013 at 9:34 PM

I feel the same way about you, just replace “guns” with “progressive movement.” You are under some kind of delusion that if you hold onto your guns you could actually do something if the government tried to come for you.

So you’re admitting that the progressive movement is based on delusional ideals meant to give comfort?

They have *drones* dude, you’re not going to win a military fight against this government

So only those who might win have a right to defend themselves?

Its all about you being a dude with the need to conquer and control something.

And here comes the armchair psychology. And so surprising that your clinical diagnosis is that his opinion deserves nothing more than marginalization.

But there’s no more western frontier

The Second Amendment says people have the right to bear arms for purposes of colonization?

the U.S. isn’t about to take over any other nations any time soon

The Second Amendment says people have the right to bear arms for the purposes of conquering foreign powers?

women and racial minorities are full citizens

I can’t begin to guess what this is supposed to be about. I can’t see the connection between the breadth of citizenship and the right to guns, so I can only assume that you’re falling back on the tired old routine of saying people don’t agree with you politically because they’re misogynist and/or racist.

So now the government. A threat so large and shadowy and based in absolutely nothing real, it fulfills all your paranoid delusions.

libfreeordie on February 3, 2013 at 12:55 PM

And this exemplifies the gap in understanding that will never be bridged so long as you assume the worst about other people. This is not about whether the government IS a threat, it is about providing a backstop so that they don’t BECOME a threat. The reason the right to bear arms is enshrined is because, if the government says who can or cannot have guns, or what kind, that effectively means they control all the firepower.

Ah, but you say, our redress against the government isn’t guns, it’s votes, or whatever. All well and good, but see, the right to political speech is enshrined to protect us from a government monopoly on political speech. Our right to assemble, and to petition the government, same idea. Our right to a fair trial, by a jury of peers, facing our accuser, exists to protect us from a government monopoly on the judicial system. Our voting rights exist to protect us from a government monopoly on selecting the leaders who represent us.

You see, the founders conceived a number of ways that the government could usurp the liberty of the citizens, and their power of self-governance. The government could use any of those to funnel away our rights, and so they were protected in our founding documents, not because the government WILL, but to make sure they do NOT. And here’s the thing: GUNS WERE PART OF THAT BARGAIN. In one big bunch, it was established, the government could screw us on speech, petition, arms, justice, the ballot, etc, etc, so they protected ALL of them. EXPLICITLY.

The Schaef on February 3, 2013 at 9:54 PM

The 2nd Amendment is the surety of all the rest. Without it we have nothing but the central government’s goodwill. And we already know they are a bunch of abortion / eugenics / death panel / dictator / death panel -loving national socialists. Led by Marxists whose mentors have a plan for a conservative genocide.
So hell no I will not disarm and anyone advocating I should or should be registered is my clear enemy. I wlii fight them until I am dead or they are.

rayra on February 3, 2013 at 10:02 PM

But there’s no more western frontier

libfreeordie on February 3, 2013 at 12:55 PM

There’s still men that want to make it with children though, right professor?

hawkdriver on February 3, 2013 at 5:33 PM

So libfree is a prof in real life?

Kyle_Reese on February 3, 2013 at 10:19 PM

So now the government. A threat so large and shadowy and based in absolutely nothing real, it fulfills all your paranoid delusions.

libfreeordie on February 3, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Nothing real, no. Just our country’s birth. We were founded, in case you’ve forgotten, from the fire of a revolt against a large and powerful government bent on the seizure of firearms, onerous taxation and the imposition of tyrannical will over our lives.

But one needn’t look only at the compelling evidence of our own country — up to that point, history was NOTHING but the story of the imposition of some form of tyrannical will over people. That changed with the advent of the US Constitution and its society-altering declarations of rights and limits, most especially the Second Amendment’s assertions, which did more to guarantee liberties than all the other words combined. And that’s what they know in Washington right now. And that’s why they hate it. And that’s why they’re targeting it. And that’s why they have tools like you to conflate the citizen’s profound concern with the belittling specter of “paranoid delusions.” We know.

rrpjr on February 3, 2013 at 11:01 PM

So libfree is a prof in real life?

Kyle_Reese on February 3, 2013 at 10:19 PM

No not prof, “poof” as in Poofy or poofer. British or Scottish definition as in Urban Dictionary.

Of course it could be good or bad….

IlikedAUH2O on February 3, 2013 at 11:31 PM

Lets not also forget who got us in the Vietnam War?

Camelot!

But it is funny how hippies have somehow convinced themselves that Vietnam was some kind of “conservative war” that Nixon caused….before he became president!

William Eaton on February 3, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Funny. The picture of the guy at the top of our chain of command – the one who signed the orders sending my unit to VietNam – looked an awful lot like that young Kennedy fella. (A democRAT, as I recall.)

That was traded a year later for one of that Johnson character. And, as I recall, he was a democRAT, too.

Come to think of it, until Daddy Bush sent our troops to Kuwait, every time that the USA went to war in the 20th century, there was a democRAT in charge.
I wonder if they still teach that in schools…or if the progressives have managed to rewrite that much history.

Solaratov on February 3, 2013 at 11:48 PM

damn us peace-loving hippies and our hatred of war and guns and death!

DBear on February 3, 2013 at 11:48 AM

You assclowns don’t hate them. You’re just mad that Conservatives won’t turn in all our guns and disarm so that you could spread your own brand of war and death right here at home.

That’s why death threats directed at Conservatives are so popular at democratunderground, dkos and huffpo. (Of course, you nutless wonders still wouldn’t have the stones to come after us yourselves. You’d hire it out to the gangs.

Solaratov on February 3, 2013 at 11:58 PM

But there’s no more western frontier

libfreeordie on February 3, 2013 at 12:55 PM

There’s still men that want to make it with children though, right professor?

hawkdriver on February 3, 2013 at 5:33 PM

So libfree is a prof in real life?

Kyle_Reese on February 3, 2013 at 10:19 PM

No not prof, “poof” as in Poofy or poofer. British or Scottish definition as in Urban Dictionary.

Of course it could be good or bad….

IlikedAUH2O on February 3, 2013 at 11:31 PM

I ask because I bet that libfree is Timothy Stewart-Winter, a prof at Rutgers: http://www.ncas.rutgers.edu/timothy-stewart-winter

Assistant Professor

Faculty

Department of History, Graduate Program in American Studies, Program in Women’s and Gender Studies

Research Interests: Modern U.S. history; sexuality and gender; political, social, urban, African American

———-
When libfree made some quote on a thread in Dec 2012, I searched online for the quote. I searched newspaper search engines too. I couldn’t find any reference to libfree’s quote anywhere except for the exact quote on some prof’s twitter.

Just my conclusion that libfree is Timothy Stewart-Winter. His profile ticks all the boxes for a lib.

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/15/a-second-mass-shooting-avoided-on-friday/

”I will never carry a loaded gun except while hunting, and then only with the safety lock on.” –New Year’s resolution recommended by the National Rifle Association, 1936

libfreeordie on December 16, 2012 at 7:03 PM

What is the context of that quote?

I’ve searched online and newspaper archives for that quote and its context. The only reference I’ve found is from Timothy Stewart-Winter’s twitter, which you copied: https://twitter.com/timothysw/status/280457386609750018

Kyle_Reese on December 17, 2012 at 5:28 AM

Kyle_Reese on February 4, 2013 at 12:31 AM

:(…

Seven Percent Solution on February 4, 2013 at 1:26 AM

damn us peace-loving hippies and our hatred of war and guns and death!

DBear on February 3, 2013 at 11:48 AM

All three of those things can be blessings. Read a book and check back with us.

IlikedAUH2O on February 4, 2013 at 2:32 AM

damn us peace-loving hippies and our hatred of war and guns and death!

DBear on February 3, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Just don’t mention the Bible or the life of that guy who was crucified.

IlikedAUH2O on February 4, 2013 at 2:38 AM

Kyle_Reese on February 4, 2013 at 12:31 AM

Jesus you’re a creeper. Mods! Hello? This is not me but Time is a really close friend and colleague. Gollee you people go to far sometimes….Stop harassing people. Stop trying to track me down. Stop trying to find me. This is super super creepy.

libfreeordie on February 4, 2013 at 2:54 AM

Time really isn’t that good a friend to most. so you must be doing something right.

tom daschle concerned on February 4, 2013 at 3:27 AM

libfreeordie on February 4, 2013 at 2:54 AM
Time is a really close friend and colleague.

Your “really close friend and colleague” is a waste of skin and shouldn’t be “teaching” anything to anyone.

V7_Sport on February 4, 2013 at 3:58 AM

Libfree must be a real masochist or super self-righteous, to come here twice for a trouncing. I guess he/she thought better luck would be had late at night with a different crew of Conservatives.

Like all sanctimonious liberals, this nitwit doesn’t know the battle of Lexington and Concord was fought because the British unit was on a mission to confiscate the arms and powder (I don’t mean ‘caine, libfree) of the locals. They also set out at night to make the raid, expecting the colonists to be asleep.

Also, the Founders added the Second Amendment so the People would retain the right to defense against all those rich white men who wrote the Constitution and anyone like them who followed. There were calls for an American monarchy, but the Founders wouldn’t have it though they would have the nobility. For you libs, that’s called humility and principle.

You libs need a new example of such character traits. Your Marx and Obama just aren’t it.

Liam on February 4, 2013 at 4:52 AM

libfreeordie on February 4, 2013 at 2:54 AM

I guess sunshine really is the best disinfectant.

Well at least it still has the best darn motto for our nation as it’s nom-de-plume

WryTrvllr on February 4, 2013 at 7:12 AM

If you want someone left out of something, don’t drag them into it by posting their words verbatim on the single greatest information repository in the history of humankind.

Not that I think people need to be tracking down real world identities but people are way too cavalier about personal details that are easy to cross reference.

The Schaef on February 4, 2013 at 7:30 AM

” You are under some kind of delusion that if you hold onto your guns you could actually do something if the government tried to come for you. They have *drones* dude, you’re not going to win a military fight against this government, and you need to back up off those fantasies.

libfreeordie on February 3, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Funny, I seem to recall the general leftist position being that we could never, ever subdue a resistance movement in Iraq regardless of our smart bombs and gadgetry and super powers. Same with Vietnam or any other place they wanted us to lose.

Malachi45 on February 4, 2013 at 7:51 AM

Stop harassing people. Stop trying to track me down. Stop trying to find me. This is super super creepy.
 
libfreeordie on February 4, 2013 at 2:54 AM

 
Thanks for previously giving us all permission to be indifferent to this, btw.
 
It’s also comically coincidental how you make a comment about me not engaging you in that thread
 

But more to the point, I challenge the notion that you are someone who engages me. You don’t actually… Engagement would be responding to the substance of my claims in ways that illustrates you understand the argument and can defeat it with your own. You don’t do that and therefore you are not one of the few who “engage me.”
 
libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM

 
and how you have completely avoided trying to defend your ignorant and/or foolish position that humans aren’t wired for war in this one.
 
I guess we should, as another poster once put it, assume you don’t understand the argument (which, hilariously, you introduced) and are incapable of defeating it with your own, right?
 
Nicely done as always, professor.

rogerb on February 4, 2013 at 8:03 AM

Rogerb, I checked out that Ms Alabama thread. Honey, how much time do you spend going through my posts, you really just do way too much. One might say you do the most! But this thread got out of hand when you folks started pulling my friends faculty profiles into the mix to try and track me down. Desperate and unhinged only just covers it. I’ve been posting less and less of late and that trend will only continue after reading that thread and seeing the attacks on Tim. The little fun I have here is not worth all that. I just got a new job at one of the 50 flagship public universities in the country, ain’t got time for mess. Ill pop in every now and then, but for the most part, See ya!

libfreeordie on February 4, 2013 at 8:19 AM

libfreeordie on February 4, 2013 at 8:19 AM

You should be banned from Hot Air for promoting child molestation.

smoothsailing on February 4, 2013 at 8:35 AM

libfreeordie on February 4, 2013 at 2:54 AM

This level of hysteria and hyperventilation hasn’t been witnessed since the townsmen knocked downs Lot’s door.

tom daschle concerned on February 4, 2013 at 8:40 AM

libfreeordie on February 4, 2013 at 8:19 AM

Adios, drama queen and professional victim.

Good riddance. You won’t be missed by many, if any. Quite the contrary.

But then we all know you cannot stay away. I’ve rarely ever seen a troll voluntarily walk away. Especially one that regards itself as superior in almost every way to almost every other poster.

Besides that, you have too much fun here in trying to find evidence of racism and bigotry, in calling others here racists and bigots, in playing the victim, and in whining about it all. You should have been banned for it many times over. The PTB at HA are far more tolerant than you and your fellow travelers. Too tolerant IMHO.

farsighted on February 4, 2013 at 9:11 AM

“Free at last! free at last! thank God Almighty, we are free at last!”

claudius on February 4, 2013 at 9:29 AM

I just got a new job at one of the 50 flagship public universities in the country, ain’t got time for mess. Ill pop in every now and then, but for the most part, See ya!

libfreeordie on February 4, 2013 at 8:19 AM

I’m happy to hear that…those toilets won’t clean themselves. You’ll plenty of “messes” to clean up especially after the big frat parties.

Kingfisher on February 4, 2013 at 9:36 AM

But this thread got out of hand when you folks started pulling my friends faculty profiles into the mix

You posted publicly searchable information about the guy. Again I cannot emphasize enough how easy it is to cross-reference information on the most extensive knowledge base ever constructed.

The Schaef on February 4, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Honey, how much time do you spend going through my posts, you really just do way too much. One might say you do the most!
 
libfreeordie on February 4, 2013 at 8:19 AM

 
You truly are ignorant, and not in an ad hominem way. You know the definition, and you fit it with that statement.
 
Just because you don’t know how to use google or you haven’t worked to improve your own average or below-average memory and recollection skills doesn’t mean others haven’t, or that it’s particularly difficult.
 
Ignorance.
 
Nothing else.
 

I just got a new job at one of the 50 flagship public universities in the country, ain’t got time for mess. Ill pop in every now and then, but for the most part, See ya!
 
libfreeordie on February 4, 2013 at 8:19 AM

 
All of that, and no defense of your “not wired for war” remark from earlier.
 

Engagement would be responding to the substance of my claims in ways that illustrates you understand the argument and can defeat it with your own. You don’t do that and therefore you are not one of the few who “engage me.”
 
libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM

 
You proved my point. And, unintentionally, your own. Again.
 
Well done, professor.

rogerb on February 4, 2013 at 10:26 AM

rogerb on February 4, 2013 at 10:26 AM

Dang, dude. I just saw that AL thread. That was an epic beat-down. brainfree is a sniveling little coward. All he can do is throw his race-bomb and flee the scene. It’s also a sad state of affairs that a public university would hire this low-life scumbag. Especially in light of his scholarly contributions. At least he’s got affirmative action and the need for public universities to fill slots in their subsidized feel good departments.

HumpBot Salvation on February 4, 2013 at 10:39 AM

I just got a new job at one of the 50 flagship public universities in the country,
libfreeordie on February 4, 2013 at 8:19 AM

Enjoy it while it lasts. The “flagship public University” is circling the drain. Administrative bloat, demographic trends, ideological corruption, insane price-to-value disporportion, increasing competition from online education, and the blight of the Obama economy are wiping the modern university off the map.

rrpjr on February 4, 2013 at 10:44 AM

http://conservatives4palin.com/2013/02/rip-chris-kyle.html

R.I.P. Chris Kyle

Posted on February 03 2013 – 3:05 AM – Posted by: Stacy Drake | Follow Stacy on Twitter!

Governor Palin and Todd offer condolences in the wake of Chris Kyle’s death. Sad news via Facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/sarahpalin/posts/10151426260033588

Our thoughts and prayers go out to the family and many friends of former Navy SEAL Chris Kyle tonight. Todd and I first met Chris in Pella, Iowa, when he helped out with security for the premiere of the film “The Undefeated.” And later we became friends with Chris when he was on “Stars Earn Stripes” with Todd. Chris was a wonderful man, a good friend, and a true American hero who loved our country and served honorably. He was loved and admired by so many, and he will never be forgotten.

– Todd and Sarah Palin

ChuckTX on February 4, 2013 at 11:29 AM

There’s something very fishy about this murder…’nuff said.

elihu on February 4, 2013 at 12:29 PM

why are the “pro-life” “uber-christian” folks the most violent, paranoid, war-mongering, gun-loving lunatics out there?

pro life my ass

DBear on February 3, 2013 at 12:40 PM

.
Just for giggles, I’ll throw a little “confusion” (not really) into the mix:

Matthew 11:12

listens2glenn on February 3, 2013 at 1:44 PM

.
NOBODY RESPONDED TO THIS . . . . . . . I feel sooo “dissed”.

That’s it … taking my toys and goin’ home . . . . . . . . . (stomps off, pouting, lower lip stuck out, you know the rest …)

listens2glenn on February 4, 2013 at 12:56 PM

It’s also a sad state of affairs that a public university would hire this low-life scumbag.

HumpBot Salvation on February 4, 2013 at 10:39 AM

Sadly typical. The modern academy is shot through with clowns like this. They churn out armies of ignorant, unemployable mini-Marxists. The progressive corruption of higher education is the great unspoken scandal of our time.

rrpjr on February 4, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Ron Paul launches disgusting assault-Tweet at Chris Kyle –

Chris Kyle’s death seems to confirm that “he who lives by the sword dies by the sword.” Treating PTSD at a firing range doesn’t make sense


Ron Paul (@RonPaul) February 04, 2013

http://twitchy.com/2013/02/04/disgusting-ron-paul-attacks-murder-victim-war-hero-chris-kyle/

Pork-Chop on February 4, 2013 at 1:28 PM

I see that Ron Paul went all “Westboro Baptist” on Chris Kyle

J_Crater on February 4, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Well I ain’t surprised, given his isolationist anti-war bent.

Red Creek on February 4, 2013 at 4:38 PM

I see that Ron Paul went all “Westboro Baptist” on Chris Kyle

J_Crater on February 4, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Ron Paul is a POS.

V7_Sport on February 4, 2013 at 5:08 PM

Ron Paul launches disgusting assault-Tweet at Chris Kyle –

Chris Kyle’s death seems to confirm that “he who lives by the sword dies by the sword.” Treating PTSD at a firing range doesn’t make sense


Ron Paul (@RonPaul) February 04, 2013

http://twitchy.com/2013/02/04/disgusting-ron-paul-attacks-murder-victim-war-hero-chris-kyle/

Pork-Chop on February 4, 2013 at 1:28 PM

That nazi-hugging, Hamas lie spewing, 9/11 truther traitor scum can burn in hell for this.

Alberta_Patriot on February 4, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Another reason to dismiss Paul and his devotees.

tom daschle concerned on February 4, 2013 at 6:34 PM

I see Ron Paul dared to question the wisdom of treating PTSD by putting a lethal weapon in the sufferer’s hand (seriously, WTF?!) and out come all the bucktoothed, inbred, shack-dwelling Zionist-puppet chickenhawsk bumpkins.

Not the smartest move ever, Ron. The man’s a war hero for one thing and he was practicing the sacred right to bear arms even when he was confirmed to be hurt in the head…there are some brilliant ideas ya just don’t question.

MelonCollie on February 4, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Jesus you’re a creeper. Mods! Hello? This is not me but Time is a really close friend and colleague. Gollee you people go to far sometimes….Stop harassing people. Stop trying to track me down. Stop trying to find me. This is super super creepy.

libfreeordie on February 4, 2013 at 2:54 AM

Dude – Go. Away.

Whatever use we had talking to you during the election, is spent.

You. Are. Not. Wanted. Or. Welcome. Anymore.

You crossed a line in this thread. The respect for Chris Kyle is unbound on the right. You trolled a truly great person’s legacy.

Personally, I hope you keep it up. It would be fun seeing you become the next cause to end public sector funding.

I’m sure your employer is kewl with hiring a guy who has no qualms with incest, right? I bet the LGBXYZ community will love having you front-and-center.

I mean, think of all you’ve admitted to on this blog. You’ve confirmed most of our ugliest concerns about “the next civil rights movement”.

So you can hang around wait for someone to post your FB page again, and get exposed as either a fraud, and lose your cache, or become the next poster boi. Maybe Toure can take up your cause when your recent hiring is “under review”.

budfox on February 4, 2013 at 10:27 PM

I see Ron Paul dared to question the wisdom of treating PTSD by putting a lethal weapon in the sufferer’s hand (seriously, WTF?!) and out come all the bucktoothed, inbred, shack-dwelling Zionist-puppet chickenhawsk bumpkins.

Not the smartest move ever, Ron. The man’s a war hero for one thing and he was practicing the sacred right to bear arms even when he was confirmed to be hurt in the head…there are some brilliant ideas ya just don’t question.

MelonCollie on February 4, 2013 at 10:10 PM

First, you’re a piece of shit. A certifiable bottom-dwelling, yellow-backed, anti-Semite piece of shit. If I stepped in a pile of you I wouldn’t even bother trying to clean the shoe, I’d just throw it away.

Second, you’re a piece of shit.

You don’t rate commenting about the military. I guess you got that right, but you don’t rate it.

smoothsailing on February 4, 2013 at 10:28 PM

I just got a new job at one of the 50 flagship public universities in the country, ain’t got time for mess. Ill pop in every now and then, but for the most part, See ya!

libfreeordie on February 4, 2013 at 8:19 AM

Have fun at Duke.

Fair warning.

Do not come back.

budfox on February 4, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Kyle_Reese on February 4, 2013 at 12:31 AM

Don’t do that, guy. I mean generally. The last guy outed libfreeordie and everyone got a warning from AP after a few postes were deleted that AP considered it a form of intimidation.

libfreeordie‘s already outed, long time now, but –

Just don’t do that. :)

Axe on February 4, 2013 at 10:43 PM

*that e is silent. I suspect nargles.

Axe on February 4, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Axe on February 4, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Screw that.

AP and Ed have been playing a game with Libfree for the hits.

He openly admits to trolling these boards, and to come here and spit in the face of Chris Kyle is too much.

The majority of us do not go to Prog boards because we’re not looking for an ideological fight over current events.

We debate amongst each other, because not everyone sees eye-to-eye and its civil.

Lib does not deserve special protection, which is what they give him. He wants to come here and run his mouth, he can deal with the consequences.

If I get banned and Lib doesn’t, fine. Then everyone will understand the game the mods are playing.

budfox on February 4, 2013 at 10:53 PM

I see Ron Paul dared to question the wisdom of treating PTSD by putting a lethal weapon in the sufferer’s hand (seriously, WTF?!) and out come all the bucktoothed, inbred, shack-dwelling Zionist-puppet chickenhawsk bumpkins.

MelonCollie on February 4, 2013 at 10:10 PM

First, you’re just mad that Kyle kicked the ass of your tinfoil turban wearing america-hating 9/11 traitor psuedo-SEAL hero Jesse Ventura.

Second, you respond to the second sentence of Herr Doktor Pauls tweet, but not the first, wherein he viciously and cowardly assaults the memory of a man who did far more for freedom than the pork-barrel-politicking hypocrite. This speaks volumes.

Third… third was already sufficiently covered by Smoothsailing.

Alberta_Patriot on February 4, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Matthew 11:12

listens2glenn on February 3, 2013 at 1:44 PM

That is certainly true!

kakypat on February 4, 2013 at 11:26 PM

Screw that.

AP and Ed have been playing a game with Libfree for the hits.

He openly admits to trolling these boards, and to come here and spit in the face of Chris Kyle is too much.

The majority of us do not go to Prog boards because we’re not looking for an ideological fight over current events.

We debate amongst each other, because not everyone sees eye-to-eye and its civil.

Lib does not deserve special protection, which is what they give him. He wants to come here and run his mouth, he can deal with the consequences.

If I get banned and Lib doesn’t, fine. Then everyone will understand the game the mods are playing.

budfox on February 4, 2013 at 10:53 PM

I wasn’t thinking of libfreeordie; that’s why I said generally.

You’ve got a good shot at being banned if you post personal information. If anyone’s OK with getting kicked and having their post deleted anyway, go for it.

Axe on February 5, 2013 at 2:00 AM

I see Ron Paul dared to question the wisdom of treating PTSD by putting a lethal weapon in the sufferer’s hand (seriously, WTF?!) and out come all the bucktoothed, inbred, shack-dwelling Zionist-puppet chickenhawsk bumpkins.

MelonCollie on February 4, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Ron Paul is the Westboro Baptist Church of modern-day American politics: an evil, raisiny little homunculus of a man, perpetually stuttering and spluttering ineffectually at the sidelines of any actual, demonstrable electoral relevance.

That is all.

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 3:44 AM

I just got a new job at one of the 50 flagship public universities in the country

libfreeordie on February 4, 2013 at 8:19 AM

Congratulations, Mr. Paterno.

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 3:47 AM

bucktoothed, inbred, shack-dwelling Zionist-puppet chickenhawsk bumpkins.

MelonCollie on February 4, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Oh, you poor dear.

Show us. Show us on the doll where the evil, nastybad joooooooooooo persons touched you.

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 4:00 AM

The little fun I have here is not worth all that. I just got a new job at one of the 50 flagship public universities in the country, ain’t got time for mess. Ill pop in every now and then, but for the most part, See ya!

libfreeordie on February 4, 2013 at 8:19 AM

Lol :) Get out of here, who would hire someone who can’t tell the difference between ‘retraction’ and ‘contraction’ …according to flagship univ prof here, the economy ‘retracts’ :)

jimver on February 5, 2013 at 5:11 AM

Have fun at Duke.

That’s very kind of you, perhaps one day, but Duke is not a public University…..Jesus….

Fair warning.

Do not come back.
budfox on February 4, 2013 at 10:42 PM

1. You have basic comprehension problems. I said I would be an infrequent visitor, not totally absent.

2. I also think you misunderstand how things function in the world. Unless you are the proprietors of a space, you do not have the ability and authority to threaten people or to keep them from being/participating in that space.

3. Beyond that point, what is going on in your *ilfe* man. In a lot of your lives. Politics is a source of passionate engagement for all of us, but have you considered (for a moment) that your energy might be better spent on organizing around conservative values that trying to figure out who I am because i had the audacity to post progressive ideas of varying levels of persuasion on a conservative blog? There just really isn’t anything I’ve done here that warrants this super personalized hatred that you, HumpBotSalvation and others have allowed yourselves to be sucked into. Your threats and attempts at intimidation make *you( look unscrewed and crazy, not the other way around. I suspect many of the posters here (i.e. the vast majority who aren’t trying to threaten me) would agree.

libfreeordie on February 5, 2013 at 6:23 AM

1)

rogerb on February 4, 2013 at 10:26 AM

 
Dang, dude. I just saw that AL thread. That was an epic beat-down… At least he’s got affirmative action and the need for public universities to fill slots in their subsidized feel good departments.
 
HumpBot Salvation on February 4, 2013 at 10:39 AM

 
Now that he “ain’t got time for mess” and won’t be reading this, I’ll tell you that I genuinely feel bad for him. I won’t comment personally about libfreeordie, but I’ll address that strange and tiny particular demographic. “He” and “him” are simply useful for ease of reading:
 
He exists in a small bubble of like-minded people and knows very little outside of whatever self-affirming reading and research he does regarding womens-/LBGT-/black-studies, and he has chosen to be obsessively pro-black and black-race-focused while knowing, and admitting, that other blacks are extremely prejudiced against him (to the point of an increased chance of violence from another black person) because of his sexual preferences.
 
The safety of that tiny bubble is the only real choice for making it through life. But the bubble he’s in is entirely homogenized
 

This is not me but Time is a really close friend and colleague.

 
and the academic echo chamber makes him feel smart.
 
Then he comes chooses contact with socially-backwards pro-gun, traditional-marriage, anti-pedophilia, anti-incest types who have much less education but actually know things, and he has to run away because he’s incapable of arguing the topics he introduced. Other than womens-/LBGT-/black-studies sort of threads, of course. You can’t get him off of those with a cattle prod.
 
Take this thread, for instance. Instead of responding to me by supporting what he posted as fact, he writes at length on unrelated reasons why he
 
1) couldn’t address the topic and
 
2) why he won’t address any of his equally ignorant future posts.
 
Imagine that for a bit. Imagine being consumed by your academic fetish but being constantly shown as wrong on almost every topic you introduce here outside of a laughably self-limited sort of “the influence of women professors in gay black history and how it influences future gay history of blacks and women” sphere of knowledge.
 
Now imagine knowing that the non-bubble folks you choose to congregate with care very little about your womens-/LBGT-/black-studies knowledge. And, worse, often laugh openly about its perceived value after you prove you haven’t bothered to learn much else.
 
Sadder still is knowing that he comes here and gets knocked around academically by people who probably only graduated high school but who have genuine intellectual curiousity and have educated themselves on different topics, and this forces him to return to the comfort of that little womens-/LBGT-/black-studies bubble where he knows what he’s expected to say to be told he’s smart again.
 
Lather, rinse, repeat.

rogerb on February 5, 2013 at 7:03 AM

2)
 
Imagine having to complain about people stalking your friend after you readily and stupidly posted a quote your easily-identified colleague made up out of whole cloth (two peas in a pod) in order to score points on a heated national issue.
 
As it relates to my post? Think about how weird and embarrassing it must feel to be compelled, as you flee a thread, to brag about:
 

I just got a new job at one of the 50 flagship public universities in the country, ain’t got time for mess.
 
libfreeordie on February 4, 2013 at 8:19 AM

 
But to have shown through an insightful spur of the moment post that you lack a broad enough base of knowledge to know that other animals (monkeys, bees, etc.) go to war constantly and for almost exactly the same reasons that humans do.
 
All of this just before a perceived stereotypically slow-on-the-uptake, non-academic, not-an-assistant-professor dumb conservative or GED-holding vet has to point out something so basic.
 
Think of how damaging that must be to the ego and imagined level of intelligence.
 
And the only thing that can happen now is to once again flee to the safety and reassurance of the womens-/LBGT-/black-studies bubble. And to even admit it.
 
It’s a horrible cycle, and something that makes me feel truly sorry for the group.

rogerb on February 5, 2013 at 7:07 AM

Now imagine knowing that the non-bubble folks you choose to congregate with care very little about your womens-/LBGT-/black-studies knowledge. And, worse, often laugh openly about its perceived value after you prove you haven’t bothered to learn much else.

rogerb on February 5, 2013 at 7:03 AM

In the proverbial nutshell. ;) Nicely succinct, and wholly inarguable. Well done.

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 7:11 AM

There just really isn’t anything I’ve done here that warrants this super personalized hatred that you, HumpBotSalvation and others have allowed yourselves to be sucked into.

When you finally felt comfortable enough to start you crusade to break down the barriors of older men having relationships with underaged boys, you rated hate in my book. That you were one of the indignant gay commenters here who was always on staation to call anyone who made that charge a homophobe, that’s you so much more worthy to hate. Because you always knew where you wanted your movement to go and you couldn’t even tell the truth about it.

Your threats and attempts at intimidation make *you( look unscrewed and crazy, not the other way around. I suspect many of the posters here (i.e. the vast majority who aren’t trying to threaten me) would agree.

libfreeordie on February 5, 2013 at 6:23 AM

How stable is a man in his 30s who looks at a young boy as his sexual partner? (Just out of curiousity. How do you pass the time after you’ve done the deed, helping him with his homework?) I take no satifaction in being able to say we told people so. But when rogerb posted your recent comments with you finally broaching the subject of being attracted to boys I wanted everyone who comments on Hot Air to understand who and what kind of monster you are. I know you like the attention, welcome to it. You demanded we hate you.

hawkdriver on February 5, 2013 at 8:18 AM

That was all “no coffee yet” messed up. Let me do that for you again libfreeordeathtomediahacks …

There just really isn’t anything I’ve done here that warrants this super personalized hatred that you, HumpBotSalvation and others have allowed yourselves to be sucked into.

When you finally felt comfortable enough to start your crusade to break down the barriors of older men having relationships with underaged boys, you rated hate in my book. That you were one of the indignant gay commenters here who was always on station to call anyone who made that charge a homophobe, that makes you so much more worthy to hate. Because you always knew where you wanted your movement to go and you couldn’t even tell the truth about it.

Your threats and attempts at intimidation make *you( look unscrewed and crazy, not the other way around. I suspect many of the posters here (i.e. the vast majority who aren’t trying to threaten me) would agree.

libfreeordie on February 5, 2013 at 6:23 AM

How stable is a man in his 30s who looks at a young boy as his sexual partner? (Just out of curiousity. How do you pass the time after you’ve done the deed, helping him with his homework?) I take no satifaction in being able to say we told people so. But when rogerb posted your recent comments with you finally broaching the subject of being attracted to boys I wanted everyone who comments on Hot Air to understand who and what kind of monster you are. I know you like the attention, welcome to it. You demanded we hate you.

hawkdriver on February 5, 2013 at 8:22 AM

rogerb on February 5, 2013 at 7:07 AM

Beat down.

hawkdriver on February 5, 2013 at 8:25 AM

crusade to break down the barriors of older men having relationships with underaged boys

hawkdriver on February 5, 2013 at 8:18 AM

[::shudders in open, undisguised revulsion::]

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 8:25 AM

[::shudders in open, undisguised revulsion::]

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 8:25 AM

Yet he doesn’t understand your revulsion. If he were any knid of man (I know, right) he’d go full bore and let his whole thesis on the subjecvt out. But he knows he said to much, too soon and I doubt he’ll be pushing the idea again anytime soon.

The original comments are forever though.

hawkdriver on February 5, 2013 at 8:30 AM

The original comments are forever though.

hawkdriver on February 5, 2013 at 8:30 AM

Dude. Seriously. I can literally feel my skin crawling, here.

Anybody got a spare bar of Lava they’d be willing to spot me for just a few quick minutes, maybe…?

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 8:38 AM

Kent18. A while back I’d read this comment of his and was curious that he would almost defend the behavior of a older man being attracted to a young girl by clearly drawing the distinction between moral and statutory behavior.

The vast majority of criminal pedophilia (which is different than statutory rape) occurs between adult men and underage girls, it occurs within circles of trusts, either a family member or other trusted adult. But conservatives love to pretend that these situations, which is more statutory rape than pedophilia, prove all gay men are pedophiles. Its pretty horrific

libfreeordie on November 20, 2012 at 5:27 PM

But how hypocritical and sick is he to make this comment just months later? Yet, it makes sense now. All designed to lessen the disgust and get the conversation rolling. He’s patient, I’ll give him that. Planting seeds for comments down the road.

But I have a hard time getting too upset about a 45 year old guy and a 16 year old guy having sex. Maybe its because when I was under 18 (17 to be exact) I had a bit of an affair with an older man (early 30s)…and it was AWESOME. Its exactly what I wanted, I pursued it, he was smoking hot, I was 17 and (as most of the male posters will attest to) extremely interested in having sex. I wasn’t abused or exploited. And there’s no question that a year earlier I would have been just fine as well. Because by 16 I was, at least in terms of my sexual desires, really, really clear what I wanted. I think most 16 year old boys are. Like…how does a “vulnerable” 16 year old find their way onto a gay sex chat-line anyway?
libfreeordie on November 20, 2012 at 6:16 PM

He calls rogerb and other stalkers. I’m guessing he’s too stupid to understand how easily ones comments are gleaned from previos posts.

hawkdriver on February 5, 2013 at 9:02 AM

He calls rogerb and other stalkers. I’m guessing he’s too stupid to understand how easily ones comments are gleaned from previos posts.

hawkdriver on February 5, 2013 at 9:02 AM

Hawk: do you remember that scene in The Crying Game, immediately after the part where Stephen Rea discovers you-know-what about Forest Whitaker, where he’s compulsively re-re-re-re-re-cleaning himself in the shower…?

Me. Now.

*BLECCHHHHHHH* — !!!

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 9:09 AM

rogerb on February 5, 2013 at 7:03 AM

I’ve really gotten under your skin, huh?. You know what’s really funny. You actually get an enormous satisfaction from the idea that you have bested someone with a phd in U.S. history on..wait for it….Hot Air. The conservative blog. Like think about that being the place where you claim victory. Meanwhile? I’m claiming victory in life. It would be nice to engage in an in-person debate though with rogerb, I suspect it would not last long.

libfreeordie on February 5, 2013 at 9:21 AM

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 9:09 AM

I’m sorry but I never saw that movie.

hawkdriver on February 5, 2013 at 9:21 AM

rogerb on February 5, 2013 at 7:03 AM

I’ve really gotten under your skin, huh?. You know what’s really funny.

What’s really funny is you’re still not ashamed to comment here after your letting the facade down about being attracted to underage boys. Funny in a sick way.

You actually get an enormous satisfaction from the idea that you have bested someone with a phd in U.S. history on..wait for it….Hot Air.

Must be important to you. You can’t break this excessive compulsive behavior of saying you’ll “never return” and then show up like clockwork when someone makes a comment you can’t stop yourself from answering. You’re like hitting F1 on the keyboard. You’re required to react. Genius.

The conservative blog.

Again, no one twists your arm to comment here.

Like think about that being the place where you claim victory. Meanwhile? I’m claiming victory in life. It would be nice to engage in an in-person debate though with rogerb, I suspect it would not last long.

libfreeordie on February 5, 2013 at 9:21 AM

You are such a f@cking liar. And you are so f@cking stuck on yourself. First, I hope real families you’re associated with know your love of boys so they can be guarded when you’re around them.

Second, you’re assessment of US History is so perverse, the only way you could have achieved a phd is projecting the most leftist notion of it’s essence of evil so another phd whose opinion of it was as perverse.

hawkdriver on February 5, 2013 at 9:32 AM

And take note Hot Air readers. I can say literally anything I want to libfreeordie because he’s so afraid of my comments, he won’t even address them.

And I love it.

hawkdriver on February 5, 2013 at 9:40 AM

But then we all know you cannot stay away. I’ve rarely ever seen a troll voluntarily walk away. Especially one that regards itself as superior in almost every way to almost every other poster.

Besides that, you have too much fun here in trying to find evidence of racism and bigotry, in calling others here racists and bigots, in playing the victim, and in whining about it all. You should have been banned for it many times over. The PTB at HA are far more tolerant than you and your fellow travelers. Too tolerant IMHO.

farsighted on February 4, 2013 at 9:11 AM

Didn’t take long. About a day.

farsighted on February 5, 2013 at 9:44 AM

libfreeordie on February 5, 2013 at 9:21 AM

So, tell me: on a scale of 1 to 10… how old was your last boyfriend?

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 9:45 AM

Second, you’re assessment of US History is so perverse, the only way you could have achieved a phd is projecting the most leftist notion of it’s essence of evil so another phd whose opinion of it was as perverse.

hawkdriver on February 5, 2013 at 9:32 AM

Howard Zinn had a Phd in history. Not worth the paper it was written on.

farsighted on February 5, 2013 at 9:48 AM

AND YET, SOMEHOW, HIS PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN NEVER GOT TRACTION: Ron Paul tries to explain controversial comments about slain sniper.

(H/T Instapundit)

What a putz.

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 10:12 AM

First, I hope real families you’re associated with know your love of boys so they can be guarded when you’re around them.

You’re insane. If you don’t, intellectually, understand the point of challenging the fact that it is totally acceptable for an 18 year old and a 45 year old to have sex, but a heinous crime for a 16 year old and a 45 year old to have sex, then you’re not as bright as you claim to be. The point is that exploitation and abuse happens in all kinds of ways that the society accepts. An 18 year old model and a 70 year old billionaire for example. Everyone knows what that exchange is about, and yet we’ve decided its a kind of exploitation that is acceptable. I’m curious about pushing against those boundaries and figuring out why the law (and our prosecution of it) has been crafted the way it has. What is the rationale for 18, rather than 21 or 16? There’s always quite a bit of research in criminology which argues that our draconian approach to statutory rape (which is different than pedophilia in most states) actually prevents people from reporting instances of actual abuse. All of this is to say, if you want to just yell and call me a pedophile because it does something for you, go ahead. But you also are totally aware that it is dishonest.

libfreeordie on February 5, 2013 at 10:26 AM

libfreeordie on November 20, 2012 at 6:16 PM

He calls rogerb and other stalkers. I’m guessing he’s too stupid to understand how easily ones comments are gleaned from previos posts.

hawkdriver on February 5, 2013 at 9:02 AM

Holy crap. After the Nov 6 disaster I cut down on reading the blogs for awhile. When I did I tried to ignore the trolls. I missed that.

Link for others who may have missed it.

And yet the author is still unbanned, even after having been banned once before under a different handle.

farsighted on February 5, 2013 at 10:29 AM

You’re insane. If you don’t, intellectually, understand the point of challenging the fact that it is totally acceptable for an 18 year old and a 45 year old to have sex, but a heinous crime for a 16 year old and a 45 year old to have sex, then you’re not as bright as you claim to be.

If you’re trying to pass off this notion that there isn’t something freakishly wrong with even an 18 yo boy and 45 yo man engaged in a sexual affair, you’re even a bigger freak than I first thought. But you’re changing your tune already. “You” were the one with the “it happened to me and I’m okay” story about getting scrogged by the 45 yo when you were 17, not 18. Doesn’t work. Your comments are history. You’re the one saying you’d be okay with a 16 yo having sex with a 45 yo man. Doesn’t work. Your comments are history and out there for everyone to see. Ten bucks says you lay in bed at night trying to frame you argument for the justification of even younger children.

The point is that exploitation and abuse happens in all kinds of ways that the society accepts. An 18 year old model and a 70 year old billionaire for example. Everyone knows what that exchange is about, and yet we’ve decided its a kind of exploitation that is acceptable. I’m curious about pushing against those boundaries and figuring out why the law (and our prosecution of it) has been crafted the way it has. What is the rationale for 18, rather than 21 or 16? There’s always quite a bit of research in criminology which argues that our draconian approach to statutory rape (which is different than pedophilia in most states) actually prevents people from reporting instances of actual abuse. All of this is to say, if you want to just yell and call me a pedophile because it does something for you, go ahead.

Just words you freaking pervert. Go into a ten page dissertation and the central theme of your thesis is still pushing the edge of social norms by getting the dialog going about lowering the age of consent for old gay men dating boys. 16 for God’s sake. What family would allow their 16 yo boy to go to to the home of an old gay man for sexual activity? Or do you do them in their own bedroom with their parents consent? Do you understand what you’re saying? The sick part? That you produce this story that it happened to you as a 17 yo and you’re okay with it so every 16_17 yo should be able to be molested by an old man like you. You make my skin crawl you sick freak.

But you also are totally aware that it is dishonest.

libfreeordie on February 5, 2013 at 10:26 AM

Not falling in line with your perverse attempts at changing the rules of sodomizing under aged children doesn’t make me dishonest.

You’re a sick “dude” and must be insane. I’m not going to be surprised if I hear about you abducting a kid some day.

16 for God’s sake. What family would let their son near you?

smoothsailing on February 5, 2013 at 6:52 PM

You’re a sick “dude” and must be insane. I’m not going to be surprised if I hear about you abducting a kid some day.

smoothsailing on February 5, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Most likely he’ll simply do what his ilk routinely does nowadays, and enact all his initial prepping for a little light forced juvenile sodomy via the cozily anonymous confines of the internet:

Facebook Sting Nets Illinois Perv On Federal Rap

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 6:59 PM

Most likely he’ll simply do what his ilk routinely does nowadays, and enact all his initial prepping for a little light forced juvenile sodomy via the cozily anonymous confines of the internet:

Facebook Sting Nets Illinois Perv On Federal Rap

Kent18 on February 5, 2013 at 6:59 PM

Six years in The Army and I thought I seen everything. This person that’s supposed to be teaching young people just grosses me out worse than anything I’ve seen yet.

smoothsailing on February 5, 2013 at 7:14 PM

But you also are totally aware that it is dishonest.

libfreeordie on February 5, 2013 at 10:26 AM

You put out a subject changing rant like that and call me dishonest?

Pathetic.

But you are predictable. I bet my wife I could make you address one of my comments after you worked so hard for months not to. You can’t help yourself.

hawkdriver on February 5, 2013 at 7:46 PM

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