Senate kills Rand Paul’s bill to prohibit sales of F-16s to Egypt
posted at 10:31 am on February 1, 2013 by Allahpundit
Meant to blog this last night but got sidetracked by the day-long Hagel clusterfark. The vote on Paul’s bill wasn’t close: 79-19, with more Republicans voting against it (26) than for it (19). Why? For the same reason McCain looked the other way at Morsi’s Jew-baiting and backed continued aid to Egypt. Namely, leverage:
[T]he pro-Israel lobbying group American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) actually opposed Paul’s amendment. An AIPAC official explained to The Daily Caller News Foundation that the committee feared that the measure, if passed, would diminish U.S. influence in Egypt.
A few extra F-16s aren’t going to change the balance of air power between the IAF and Egypt’s air force but they do help — in theory — keep relations warm-ish between the U.S. and Egypt’s military. Jim Inhofe, who wanted the F-16 sales suspended but not canceled, as Paul’s amendment would have done, explained to the Daily Caller why he voted no on Paul’s bill:
“We need to continue to support the Egyptian military, which [Egyptian President Mohammed] Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood have currently distanced themselves from,” Inhofe said. “Egypt’s military is our friend — Morsi is our enemy.”
The country’s new defense minister, a Morsi appointee but one who was trained in the U.S., warned last week that if the Brotherhood and the opposition didn’t reconcile soon, Egypt would face collapse. Is that a hint of a coup? Inhofe wants to make sure we have the military’s goodwill in case it is, or of course in case Morsi orders the military to do something nutty like attack Israel. (Whether the new defense minister, Abdel Fattah al-Sissi, is himself a Brotherhood stooge or more interested in preserving the military’s prerogatives is an open question.)
There may be other reasons for wanting Egypt to continue using American equipment. I got this e-mail from a reader last week, after an earlier post about the F-16 sales. I’m not qualified to judge how accurate it is but it’s interesting enough that I thought I’d post it for reader feedback:
It is in our interest to continue supplying F-16s and tanks to Egypt, despite the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood, enemies of the US, run the government.
I am a former USAF navigator/weapon systems officer in F-4E Phantom fighters and former employee at the old General Dynamics F-16 factory in Fort Worth, TX.
Fighter jets need continual parts and technical support from the factory to fly. As long as Egypt uses US-made fighter jets, we have a leash on their use. If Egypt turns hostile, we can cut off support and their fighter fleet will be largely unflyable within a year.
When Khomeini took over Iran, they were flying US-made F-4s and F-14s. Through black market parts and cannibalization of other jets, they were able to keep only a few of them flying. So, the bottom line is that using advanced US military technology enforces a dependence upon us which we may withdraw at any time. If they convert their fleet to MiGs, we lose our leash on Egypt’s air force.
As long as we supply Egypt with hardware, we also maintain a liaison with their military, which is the true power center of the country. Many have noted that Egypt’s revolution did not turn bloody because the Egyptian military refused to violently intervene, which was credited to the decades of training that Egyptian field grade officers received in the US. That is where Egyptian officers were exposed to how the military of a democratic country acts. It paid off.
While governments come and go, the military of even volatile countries usually stays in place. It is in our interest to maintain a relationship with the Egyptian military, even though it seems counterintuitive to supply weapons to a hostile Islamist regime. We have to think beyond the Morsi government to prepare to influence a secular successor.
The downside of supplying weapons to the Egyptians is that they will probably pass examples of them along to the Russians and Chinese. However, we give them second class avionics, not the best stuff which gives our air force the advantage. And the F-16 is no longer cutting edge technology. We’re retiring them by the hundreds to the boneyard in the Arizona desert for storage.
Fair points all. I’m skeptical that it’d be terribly difficult for Egypt to replace most parts for the F-16 on the black market, but I’m speaking from ignorance here. Correct me if I’m wrong, please.
One other note about the Senate vote: Take a close look at who voted with Paul to oppose tabling his bill. Any names jump out? The most conspicuous hawks in the Senate — McCain, Graham, and new third amigo Kelly Ayotte — all voted to kill Paul’s bill, but one notable hawkish up-and-comer voted to keep it alive. Hmmmmm.
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I’ve had it with the eight gangsters and all the other rhinos in congress
newportmike on May 9, 2013 at 8:02 PM
Just when you think you couldn’t hate these rat f*ck bastards any more…
I’m completely serious when I say that these and the other amnesty shills are guilty of actively working to destroy this country. If it’s not ‘treason’, I’m not sure what the technical term would be, but it is effectively what they’re doing.
Midas on May 9, 2013 at 8:11 PM
I quite frankly am getting sick of Levin, screaming like a mental patient with Tourettes about obama bin laden, and then playing endless frickin audio clips of him. And if he’s not doing that he’s taking calls from his lifelong butt-buddy Sean Hannity.
Go shit on a fish stick, Mark!!! You’re not a conservative , you’re just a phony mouthpiece!
cableguy615 on May 9, 2013 at 8:12 PM
I’ll raise you a Fawlty Towers marathon. With Manuel, it just about covers the spectrum. :)
AllahsNippleHair on May 9, 2013 at 8:16 PM
I imagine he wasn’t tasting anything, merely willing to lose a foot rather than his life. This happens all the time where animals are trapped. I grieve for them.
avagreen on May 9, 2013 at 8:41 PM
Didn’t get posted. Will try again.
I imagine he wasn’t thinking of how anything tasted other than trying to get out of the trap, being willing to lose a foot rather than a life.
This happens all the time where animals are trapped. I grieve for them.
avagreen on May 9, 2013 at 8:44 PM
Yep, I’ve had it happen a couple of times. I refreshed the page and it corrected. Weird.
lynncgb on May 9, 2013 at 9:06 PM
I hope they all spontaneously combust, right bef. they all go to Hades.
Schadenfreude on May 9, 2013 at 9:30 PM
K. Thanks. First time it happened, I thought I might be getting a little weird. :) Second time, felt better. And now I’m good.
Axe on May 9, 2013 at 9:44 PM
There is not much in that US Senate that even resembles an American these days. They have all violated their oath of office and their only loyalty is to themselves. The Constitution is nothing more then an old piece of parchment that does not fit their modern needs. If you wonder why the country is in such sad shape, just look what we elected to run it.
savage24 on May 9, 2013 at 10:20 PM
Traitors are the biggest crop that Obama has sown.
profitsbeard on May 10, 2013 at 12:40 AM
Ted Cruz wants to double the cap from 600,000 odd to 1.3 million legals a year.
That’s fine for saying “I’m compassionate.”
But it’s devastating for the interests of white people who are being flooded with non-white immigrants – legal and illegal – and forced to integrated with them. The effect of that is that there won’t be any white people at all in the long run. Technically that’s known as genocide – when you use policy (violently or not) to wipe away an identifiable part of the population, including a racial minority, which whites are becoming. (And already are in the youngest age brackets.)
As collateral damage, there won’t be any conservative politics. The conservative base is white, and the Republican Party gets 90% of its votes from whites. (While the Democratic Party gets 80% of the non-white vote.) Under the rules established in 1965, immigration into America is about 90% non-white. This means a million new Democrats a year, a small minority of potential Republican voters, and every red state turning purple then blue.
David Blue on May 10, 2013 at 5:37 AM
End the GOP. If they don’t care if they stay in business in the long run – and that’s what continued mass immigration implies – why should anyone else care if they stay in business?
David Blue on May 10, 2013 at 5:43 AM
Following the link on the ‘voting no’ part I find the original article where it states:
– emphasis mine.
Ukiah on May 10, 2013 at 8:40 AM
This is the absolute proof that not 1 d@mn politician in Washington is serious about wanting to secure our borders, prevent an influx of millions more Illegals over the next decade, and stop the massive financial drain on this nation’s economy.
The bottom line is POLITICS and the politics of party/self-preservation. God forbid, the GOP is fearful that they will be branded as Anti-Hispanic for daring to put the nation’s security above rewarding criminals who have been allowed to flood into this nation to ‘get what they can get’ rather than becoming a contributing member of American society as a citizen of the U.S.
Several years ago, if anyone remembers – or cares to remember – Hispanics took to the streets 2 weekends in a row to March. The reason for the March was to show American citizens just how many Illegals were in the country & show just how much we ‘need’ them. The 1st march was a disaster for the Illegal community, as the media showed the millions of marchers across the US carrying hate-filled signs that read things like, “We don’t want citizenship – we’re here for the money’, and ‘We don’t want to be Americans – give us Texas back’, etc. The American mood was rather negative…and growing…so an organizer quickly called for another march & urged Illegals/Marchers to put on ‘a different face’. The next weekend came & Marchers carried more Pro-American flags…guess they got the message that you don’t bite the hand that is feeding you. During those marches many people just didn’t show up for work & the government even went after several doctors who were handing out the fake ‘sick notes’.
Again, bottom line, politicians are protecting their jobs & are putting rewarding criminals for breaking our laws, putting the ability to do that ahead of securing our borders & keeping Americans safe. As Benghazi showed, putting their re-elections comes before saving / protecting Americans’ lives!
easyt65 on May 10, 2013 at 8:49 AM
AP, don’t you mean voting YES in the last paragraph? Grassley voted no on his own amendment!
Nutstuyu on May 10, 2013 at 9:08 AM
No. I think the domestic drones are already committed for deployment against the bitter clingers.
What we really need is to build a concrete-block building the entire length of the border to house all US prisoners. The ‘yard’ being on the US side with a fence running the entire length. On the other side of the fence is a live-fire zone for military training.
Visualize it and its many intrinsic security features. It’s a self-correcting system.
Tsar of Earth on May 10, 2013 at 11:04 AM
I can see 2014 from my house.
Dexter_Alarius on May 10, 2013 at 11:46 AM
Graham was already contaminated but this Jeff Flake’s name keeps popping up as though he’s some kind of player. He looks to be a third wheel in McCain and Grahams creepy relationship. We don’t need anymore RINO’s Flake, we need Conservatives and that my friend is non negotiable. Internet tax, amnesty without securing our borders? Your writing big checks our party is not going to cash Flake, no? Oh yeah…..
Tangerinesong on May 10, 2013 at 1:07 PM
These people in the GOP touting the amnesty bill aren’t even trying anymore to couch this in terms of securing the border.All they want is a share of these god knows how many tens of millions of illegal future voters.Think they are morons for thinking they will get more than a handful,but that’s what it is all about.Judas betrayed Jesus for 30 pieces of silver.Rubio has betrayed America for 30 illegals!
redware on May 10, 2013 at 1:35 PM
He ran on one set of promises. He began producing speeches and essays arguing it was immoral to oppose amnesty. At some point unknown to us, he joined the Gang and works with them in their back room meetings with the powerbrokers of amnesty. He is the star of commercials misrepresenting the amnesty bill. He keeps changing his arguments for the bill. He is not listening to those who elected him but he pretends to be one with them
The story matches, only the names and amounts are changed
entagor on May 11, 2013 at 12:59 AM
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