triple on February 2, 2013 at 2:19 PM

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We all know what happened to that thumb.

Chuck Schick on February 2, 2013

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Good one. A real good one.

And I stand by that. Unfortunately you don’t have enough intelligence or capability to make an argument, so as usual do a hit and run away.
 
lester on February 1, 2013 at 4:40 PM

 
Comedy gold:
 

Hey, look, another thread abandoned by lester after complaining about others’ “hit and run” postings.

rogerb on December 12, 2012 at 4:29 PM

Weird. It seemed like such an easy question.

Let’s ask again later.

rogerb on July 21, 2012 at 7:53 PM

Wow. Bayam’s flee-time is probably safe, but lester, you’ve got a run for your money.

rogerb on August 22, 2012 at 10:07 PM

…bankruptcies…

lester on November 8, 2012 at 4:58 PM

rogerb on November 8, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Silence, no response.

rogerb on November 8, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Still nothing. Twelve hours later and the thread is dead…

rogerb on November 9, 2012 at 7:38 AM

Three days. I guess you’ve abandoned this thread too, eh lester?

rogerb on February 3, 2013 at 6:14 AM

The further your incapability to argue becomes obvious…

lester on December 14, 2012 at 11:34 AM

This one is now off the front page, so it’s safe for you to abandon it now, too. See you next thread.

rogerb on December 14, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Dead thread, lester?

rogerb on December 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM

I guess this thread is all done, eh Lester? Just a few more minutes and it will be off the frontpage. No discussion, no debate, just a seagull approach to posting.

A bit longer and you’ll never have to see it again. Well, most of it, at least.

rogerb on June 3, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Obamacare, eliminating with #1 cause of bankruptcy declarations in America, most of them middle class.
 
lester on November 25, 2012 at 10:48 PM

rogerb on February 1, 2013 at 1:54 PM

 
And I stand by that. Unfortunately you don’t have enough intelligence or capability to make an argument, so as usual do a hit and run away.
 
lester on February 1, 2013 at 4:40 PM

 
We’re on page 4 now.
 
It’s hilarious that the bolded section was your only contribution to the thread, especially after numbers were presented.
 

Unfortunately you don’t have enough intelligence or capability to make an argument, so as usual do a hit and run away.

 
I couldn’t have said it better myself.

Use your other hand. Or get a girlfriend.

Seriously though. Two words to bring down your exaggerated health care costs.

Tort reform.

hawkdriver on February 2, 2013 at 9:19 PM

If you want an alternate take on what is wrong in health care, specifically the price of it, check out Karl Denninger’s blog. He focuses on the markets (obviously), but he really goes after what he calls the Health Care Monopoly, which is the unholy union of health care facilities, insurance companies, and the government. The health care market is treated differently from all the other markets of goods and services.

I went in for a thumb that was bothering me, it wouldn’t flex.
triple on February 2, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Use your other hand. Or get a girlfriend.

Seriously though. Two words to bring down your exaggerated health care costs.

Tort reform.

Without health insurance… repair of a complicated leg fracture costs about $33,565…
 

triple on February 2, 2013 at 7:48 AM

According to TrueCar.com’s data, the average selling price of a new car sold here in the U.S. last month was $30,748…
 
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/11/average-price-of-new-cars-hits-all-time-record/

That’s cute that you think that’s how much healthcare costs.

Without health insurance… repair of a complicated leg fracture costs about $33,565…

 
triple on February 2, 2013 at 7:48 AM

 
That’s cute that you think a surgical office capable of repairing a complicated fracture is too inept to set up a 48 month payment plan.
 
Your cited $33,565 is almost exactly the cost of a new Chevy Impala, and people buy those every day:
 

“…the American auto industry has come roaring back”
 
- President Barack H. Obama, 8/2012

 
 Why are you suggesting that ~$33K broken-leg amount is somehow unusually devastating?
 

$1200. No care after the fact, no followups, that’s the first visit and only visit.
 
If I broke a limb? Holy crap.
 
PS: Name one hospital that will repair a broken anything for under a grand. Just one! You can’t do it, because they don’t exist, like a lot of the other republican fantasies.
 
triple on February 2, 2013 at 2:19 PM

 
Again, why are you suggesting $1200 is devastating and must be paid all at once?

My concern is this: At that time, she said these plans would have affordable premiums, and you would pay more out of pocket for things with the Bronze plan.

So, is the Bronze plan, a plan you pay lots for, and get no actual benefits from…except for hospitalization and birth control pills? Who wants to pay all that for no coverage?

? It’s still wildly off the mark. I went in for a thumb that was bothering me, it wouldn’t flex. I just messed it up somehow, but it wasn’t broken. Doc took 5 minutes to look at it and put me in a little glove thing.

triple on February 2, 2013 at 2:19 PM

We all know what happened to that thumb.

PS: Name one hospital that will repair a broken anything for under a grand. Just one! You can’t do it, because they don’t exist, like a lot of the other republican fantasies.

triple on February 2, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Government is the reason health care (and everything else) is so expensive. More regulation, mandates, taxes and fees don’t do anything but drive costs up and give the government more power over you.

Or else!

That’s cute if you think every broken limb involves that level of care.

hawkdriver on February 2, 2013 at 9:44 AM

? It’s still wildly off the mark. I went in for a thumb that was bothering me, it wouldn’t flex. I just messed it up somehow, but it wasn’t broken. Doc took 5 minutes to look at it and put me in a little glove thing.

$1200. No care after the fact, no followups, that’s the first visit and only visit.

If I broke a limb? Holy crap.

PS: Name one hospital that will repair a broken anything for under a grand. Just one! You can’t do it, because they don’t exist, like a lot of the other republican fantasies.

I have written before and will write again that your analysis Ed is once again that Obama is just really bad at math instead of knowing full well a system that requires $20000/yr from families will cause an outcry and collapse of the free market Health System.

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I come to HotAir to meet others who aren’t in a fog about the situation. please join that conversation and the assumptions that go with it.

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Conan on February 1, 2013 at 4:53 PM

I agree, this conciliation, unwarranted by the facts, is disappointing.

Has anyone noticed that their employers must now state the “value” of their health plan on the W2?

Is it not now quite likely that the difference between that and the IRS $20,000 figure will be considered a taxable benefit to you, perhaps taxed as ordinary income?

So, if your plan is valued at $12K by the employer, an 8K benefit will be added to your taxable income, yielding another , say, $3K in revenue to the IRS – and all without legislation!

Perhaps the idea was to (try to) pay for Obamacare, but of course, this extra money will go into the general fund of great causes.