Chuck Schumer: I refuse to let border security become a barrier to citizenship for illegals

posted at 6:51 pm on January 31, 2013 by Allahpundit

Skip to 10:15 for the key bit. Is this endgame already for Rubio? He’s sworn up and down that unless Democrats agree to make border security the trigger for a path to citizenship — i.e. measurable security improvements first, before any path is created — he’ll walk away. Now here’s Schumer sounding an awful lot like he’s saying we can’t make border security the trigger for a path to citizenship. Quote:

“We want the border to be secure. It’s more secure than it was several years ago, but it has a ways to go. And different sectors need different types of security. It’s a lot different having security in the Tucson sector than off the stretch in Texas, which is bounded by the Rio Grande,” Schumer said on Thursday.

“But we’re not using border security as an excuse or block to the path of citizenship. We just want to make sure — and this is very important both substantively and politically — that there is a secure border, and we’re going to work for that. But it’s not — and Dick [Durbin] and I and Bob [Menendez], as well as our three Republican friends, want to make sure the border’s secure but not to use it as a barrier to prevent the 11 million from eventually gaining a path to citizenship.”

Time for Rubio to cut the cord, says Mark Krikorian. He’s right that the GOP’s going to get rolled if this scheme passes, but I’m not sure Schumer’s categorically ruling out using border security as a trigger here. What he’s saying, it seems to me, is that he won’t let border hawks use the trigger as a pretext to forever delay the citizenship process. That’s why Durbin rushes to the mic right after him and emphasizes that they want some sort of objective metric of security in the bill so that, if it’s met, the border can be declared officially “secure” and they can move on the citizenship phase. Without that, if “security” is based on a subjective assessment, conservatives in the Senate will supposedly go on claiming unto eternity that we’re not quite there yet. I could be wrong in reading him that way, but look: Schumer surely knows Rubio’s position. He also knows how important Rubio is in getting conservatives to buy into comprehensive reform. Why knife him in the back now, just three days removed from the press conference announcing the bipartisan plan, when they won’t even have a draft bill ready for another month? I have no doubt that Schumer does oppose using border security as a trigger, but I bet he’d be willing to concede on that if he can negotiate a security “metric” that’s forgiving enough to ensure that the trigger is indeed triggered. What he really wants is instant probationary legal status for illegals, and Rubio’s already agreed to that in theory. If that stays in the final bill and the bar for border security can be negotiated nice and low, why wouldn’t Schumer agree to letting it be a trigger?

Like I say, watch Durbin too. He refers specifically to making the path to citizenship “contingent” upon stronger border security. It’s just that that security has to be measurable so that it’s a real trigger, not something vague that border hawks can finesse to delay legalization.

Update: Conn Carroll says it’s too early for Rubio to walk away but that he expects he’ll be gone within 24 hours once the draft bill is published. I think it’ll be sooner than that; Rubio won’t wait for the draft bill to appear before cutting the cord if he knows there’s stuff in it that’ll make conservatives choke. But Schumer’s little performance here likely affects the odds. If this week started with, say, a 40 percent of Rubio quitting the group, let’s bump that up to an even 50 this evening.


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No worries. Our DC GOP geniuses in leadership will find a way to give Barry the lead again.

hawkeye54 on May 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM

Obama fatigue has set in already. For dems that is. I was tired of him just knowing who and what he was back in early 2008. Welcome to the funk libs.

DanMan on May 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM

I was tired of him just knowing who and what he was back in early 2008. Welcome to the funk libs.

Yeah, but who else do they have?

hawkeye54 on May 9, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Obama’s response: “Let me be clear — Quack! Quack!”

KS Rex on May 9, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Obama fatigue has set in already. For dems that is. I was tired of him just knowing who and what he was back in early 2008. Welcome to the funk libs.

DanMan on May 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM

What else can they “win”?

Del Dolemonte on May 9, 2013 at 6:56 PM

You missed spelled it: limp d!ck.
except when Reggie comes calling.

I want to watch the one spin out of control. Literally.

AllahsNippleHair on May 9, 2013 at 6:57 PM

In all three cases, there are more Democrats who say Republicans can do a better job than Obama

Several months late on that. Where were they last November?

GarandFan on May 9, 2013 at 6:59 PM

I don’t really have Obama fatigue right now. My frustration is with the Senate Gangbangers.

Wigglesworth on May 9, 2013 at 6:59 PM

How’s those student loan fees going? Higher rates and higher cost to go to school now that the Govt’s got the “business”? That worked out as well as RobertObamaCare, didn’t it?

Rovin on May 9, 2013 at 6:59 PM

They both suck.

And remember 42% didn’t even know ObamaCare is the law of the land as of last week.

1-20-17

PappyD61 on May 9, 2013 at 7:00 PM

Lame Duck Liar. The Benghazi Bullsh*tter. The Teleprompter Reader In Chief.
One
Big
Ass
Mistake
America

Basilsbest on May 9, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Does this just reveal how close the GOP and the rat-eared wonder are in policy?

davidk on May 9, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Joe Scarborough … check your registation

J_Crater on May 9, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Obama’s response: “Let me be clear — Quack! Quack!”

KS Rex on May 9, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Quack! Quack! Thump! Quack! Quack! Thump!

davidk on May 9, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Another worthless poll.
Bottom line is make a difference voters are the Food Stampers and other benefit receivers and they all swing Democrat…

albill on May 9, 2013 at 7:06 PM

Not bad for a leaderless party demonized by the media non stop. Now just imagine if the GOP had a spine!

Jack_Burton on May 9, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Several months late on that. Where were they last November?

GarandFan on May 9, 2013 at 6:59 PM

Circling the wagons for The One. But since he’s a lame duck, it okay to begin to consider disagreeing with Obama as Dems start to position themselves for 2016.

JimLennon on May 9, 2013 at 7:10 PM

Gun Protectors—1

Gun Grabbers —-0

canopfor on May 9, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Gun Protectors—1

Gun Grabbers —-0

canopfor on May 9, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Bravo Can!

Rovin on May 9, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Now just imagine if the GOP had a spine!

Jack_Burton on May 9, 2013 at 7:08 PM

They do have a spine. Just look how hard they are pushing “immigration” reform against the will of the people.
/

Mimzey on May 9, 2013 at 7:33 PM

I’d like to hear Johnny Carsons response as to just what kind of lame duck he is, as in ” he is so lame even Sheila Jackson Lee won’t greet him when he speaks to congress.”

tim c on May 9, 2013 at 7:50 PM

GOP now tied with or ahead of Obama on economy, immigration — and gun control

A two day old tuna sandwich could be tied with or ahead of ObamThe guy has accomplished about as much

scalleywag on May 9, 2013 at 8:03 PM

canopfor on May 9, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Bravo Can!

Rovin on May 9, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Rovin:———-:O

canopfor on May 9, 2013 at 8:11 PM

Watch “Morning Joe” any day of the week and it’s a safe bet you’ll get a lecture on how Republicans are sabotaging themselves in 2014 by alienating the centrists in their own ranks on guns.

Tell a lie often enough, loud enough… They are just trying to write the narrative hoping that if enough people believe it, it will become the truth.

deepdiver on May 9, 2013 at 8:22 PM

and now even David Frum is criticizing the schumer/rubio thing?

immigration reform must really suck bad

Unless you posit that the newly legalized immigrants will dramatically outperform the existing immigrant population, you will reach a result very like that of the Heritage Foundation: that the taxes paid by the newly legalized will not begin to equal the costs of their Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and other benefits.

oh well, Mario…here’s a clue…when Frum is off the reservation, time for you to have an ‘awakening’..and quick

http://minx.cc/?post=339838

r keller on May 9, 2013 at 8:24 PM

Lame fluck is more like it.

A bigger charlatanic thug the land never had.

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Calling him a Lame Duck isn’t right. He’s no Duck.

trigon on May 10, 2013 at 12:54 AM

Why would anyone compare the GOP’s to Obama’s on anything at this point?

Obama’s not going to be an election opponent for anyone in the GOP ever going forward.

It’s as meaningless as it would have been to compare Obama’s number’s to Bush’s numbers in 2008. Bush wasn’t running.

To quote Hillary, “What difference, at this point, does it make?”

VekTor on May 10, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Should have been “GOP’s numbers to Obama’s numbers

VekTor on May 10, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Maybe I’m missing something, but why exactly is there an excise tax on beer? Does anyone know the rationale, other than “the government wants more money”?

NorthernCross on May 12, 2013 at 8:19 PM

There is excise tax on all alcoholic beverages, but beer, wine, and distilled liquor are all licensed and tracked separately.

gryphon202 on May 12, 2013 at 8:34 PM