The others should go. Yes, even those with children. If they want to come to this country they
can stand in line. Anyone who enters this country after this law
is passed is automatically deported, no questions asked.

Amjean on January 31, 2013 at 11:39 AM

A think a big point that a lot of people are missing is that their kids are almost without exception US citizens.

So what would you do, deport the parents to Mexico and put the kids in foster care? We can’t kick the kids out, they’re citizens.

Timin203 on January 31, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Has any group sued over this law which gives illegals a reward for having babies by giving the children US citizenship? That should be the first step. Also, is this “citizenship” resulting in
welfare payments? An honest question; I do not know the answer.

I still say let them go home and take their babies with them.
They broke our laws. If we broke Mexico’s laws, we would be in
a Mexican jail. They should be relieved that we are letting them
all go home.

We can all do our little part, too. I recently put a new roof,
gutters, skylights, windows on my home along with a new fence.
With each contractor I told them that I would not allow any illegals to work at my home; my other requirement was that all
the workers speak English. They all honored my wishes and I
felt good about it. Also, I have a lawn service company that
cuts my lawn, spreads mulch, etc. They have worked for me for
over three years. I told them not to send any illegals or I would
fire the company on the spot. Now if I could just do something
about the buspeople in all the restaurants I frequent. LOL!

I bet I ended up paying a little more, however, if my efforts
helped save an American a job it was worth it.

They can’t even get their AMDT’s a vote on the Senate Floor.

Everytime I see the Congress in action, I’ve always wanted to remove all of their wealth/benefits etc and have them each live on minimum wage for a year.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/31/expert-bipartisan-immigration-reform-bill-will-cost-trillions/#ixzz2JZVnq128

workingclass artist on January 31, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Isn’t this another manifestation of Obamacare? This needs to be sent to the Boomtown 8 and the rest of the Congress members.

The welcome materials the federal government directs new immigrants to read — which detail, among other facets of American life, how and where to get government benefits — are in the process of getting a bit of a makeover to increase accessibility for newcomers.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/31/dhs-giving-new-immigrant-welcome-materials-a-makeover/#ixzz2JaNuAEP3

Looking at that article will cause your blood pressure to rise!!

http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/31/dhs-giving-new-immigrant-welcome-materials-a-makeover/

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/07/02/immigration-costs-fair-amnesty-educations-costs-reform/

When you shake hands with an employee, agreeing on $10/hour, you will end up paying $13 and the employee will take home $7, under a “best case” scenario. The $6 spread is taxes, mandatory insurance, and the like. Most illegal immigrants have been working “off the books” for cash, sending remittances back to Mexico, and living as cheaply as possible. Where on earth are they going to dig up 30% of all the pay they’ve earned since they came to this country as a lump sum? And then a fine, besides?

And then, let’s look at the other side of things — a chunk of those taxes are social security, which is already going insolvent. How will you keep the fund solvent if you’re letting people join the program after half their working lives haven’t paid the tax?

The “back taxes” thing is a massive rock in the middle of the road to amnesty for long-term illegal immigrants.

The only way the GOP should play ball on immigration reform is to do it the way the Democrats would: get your opponent to cave, totally, to your demands. Pass the legislation in exchange for “promises” to agree to their “in the future.”

In other words, get a border enforcement bill passed, get the illegal felons out of the country, strengthen & promote legal immigration from 1st-World nations. Then commit to a “framework” for a “dicussion” about a “pathway to citizenship” for 11 million new Democrats from Mexico “down the road.”

This, of course, requires the R’s to be the Not-Stupid Party, which is why it won’t happen.

Rubio has been very consistent everywhere, Red State, Rush, Levin toady on Bill Bennett–no deal if we don’t have border security.He won’t be played.

rodguy911 on January 31, 2013 at 11:13 AM

I am willing to bet that people said the same things about Republicans in 1986.

And since they won’t yield, I think Paul — and eventually Rubio — will end up walking away.

But not before they start a legislative train rolling that can’t be stopped? No thanks.

Or if they decide to remain in the United States, they will do so under the equivalent of a non-immigrant work permit by paying a substantial fine and back taxes. If they choose the non-immigrant work visa, they will not qualify for any federal benefits, including ObamaCare

Who are they and us trying to kid? The majority of the illegal immigrants people have trouble with are unskilled, families with lots of children and few ties to this country – people who came from some hell hole to earn money to send back to that pit to either support those left behind or help them sneak here.

Libs whine about how “they’re just like us and want their families to have a good life.” That may be true but IMO they don’t really want to become Americans – they just want the bennies of being here.

When you’re talking about people who are already at the bottom of the economic food chain it’s hard to see how they’re going to find money to pay a sizable fine and the back taxes on income that has been under the radar. Are we supposed to believe someone who has been here illegally for years when he tells us how much he earned in the past? /s

First, those who have violated our immigration laws must come forward and undergo a background check. If they have committed a serious crime, they will be deported.

Uh, whaaa? Criminals are going to come forward?

Thank you.
And I don’t consider it “extra”. I think it carries equal weight to the first condition.

freedomfirst on January 31, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Of course I agree with you. It was apparent that Timin203 thinks it is extra, so that is why I worded it that way.

If “all persons born or naturalized in the United States” is enough to confer citizenship, why the extra clause “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof”?

cptacek on January 31, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Thank you.
And I don’t consider it “extra”. I think it carries equal weight to the first condition.

A think a big point that a lot of people are missing is that their kids are almost without exception US citizens.

So what would you do, deport the parents to Mexico and put the kids in foster care? We can’t kick the kids out, they’re citizens.

Timin203 on January 31, 2013 at 11:44 AM

we’ve come full circle. In all that Rubio is discussing he is leaving this out. Along with the next step. Once these folks have status will they be able to fast track relatives via family reunification considerations we give now?

Will these new citizens then also be granted minority status and the cornicopia of benefits due them via affirmative action?

This is how libs use our laws and largesse to strangle us.

14th amendment: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

So unless you want to start ignoring parts of the constitution you don’t like, like the dems do, I’d say that language fairly clearly states that ALL persons BORN in the US are citizens.

Timin203 on January 31, 2013 at 11:47 AM

If “all persons born or naturalized in the United States” is enough to confer citizenship, why the extra clause “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof”?

A think a big point that a lot of people are missing is that their kids are almost without exception US citizens.

So what would you do, deport the parents to Mexico and put the kids in foster care? We can’t kick the kids out, they’re citizens.

Timin203 on January 31, 2013 at 11:44 AM

They could take their kids with them?

Some on the right, like Coulter, will remain ideologues and stick to the status quo throw them all out approach. It’s illegal!

Others will be realists, as Rubio is. You cannot tell me you are a fiscal conservative if you want to throw all 11 million illegals out of this country. On the same note, you cannot tell me you are a fiscal conservative if you wish to have these immigrants remain off the rolls working jobs without paying taxes while cashing in on free health care in our emergency rooms. You can sit back and keep things as they are now while trying to make the base blindly love you, or grow a pair and offer ideas to fix the problem as Rubio is certainly doing.

Also, to those people saying that legalizing these immigrants would give the Democrats a ton of new votes: that is bs. If the GOP can’t find a way to sell its ideas – ideas that actually work – to voters outside of the current base, the party isn’t going to be much of a party in the future anyways. So please, stop with the racial we need to keep hispanics from becoming more Democratic voters line and instead think of ways to make all Americans buy into the ideas that actually make a country stronger.

They should just remain this site HotRubio

journeymike on January 31, 2013 at 11:26 AM

Rubio Caliente.

Murf76 on January 31, 2013 at 12:41 PM

+1000 Murf. Seeing we are badly losing the education effort, some of us do have room to consider collapsing the system may the fastest route to re-education. Well said on your part.