Quotes of the day

posted at 10:31 pm on January 30, 2013 by Allahpundit

Sen. Marco Rubio is having a moment. He’s a charismatic senator from a battleground state whose Cuban heritage and support for immigration reform are helping his party begin a new courtship with Hispanic voters. This much we know. But Rubio is exploiting an opportunity that goes beyond simply good timing and the right last name. He is getting the chance to be first at bat in a larger effort: the post-election audition for GOP leadership. Of all the would-be Republican stars—and the list is long and likely to grow—Rubio is getting a chance to show exactly what it looks like to move the party in a new direction…

The most important political skill is midwifery. The leader who moves the Republican Party into a new era, where it is more attractive to middle-class voters, minorities, and younger voters, will need to communicate a vision as well as communicate back to the base how he is not selling out the party’s core principles. In this effort, Rubio will get a crack at showing key presidential governing skills—the ability to nurse complex legislation by identifying common interests with Democrats while working with Republicans friends through a mixture of cajoling, flattery, and strong-arming.

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Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, an unlikely ally of Obama’s on this issue, appeared on Rush Limbaugh’s radio show on Tuesday and recognized the Right’s discomfort with easing immigration laws. Like Obama, his defense of immigration reform seemed to be yoked to American exceptionalism.

“It doesn’t feel right in some instances to allow people who have come here undocumented to be able to stay. I know some people are uncomfortable with that notion,” said Rubio, a son of immigrants. “But I would just say this to you: If this country goes downhill, there’s nowhere else in the world. There’s nothing else. There’s no replacement for it. There’s no alternative for America. It’s either us or no one.”

And so perhaps now Republicans in Congress have two reasons to cast a risky vote in favor of conditional amnesty. The first, of course, is the fact that 70 percent of Hispanic and Asian voters supported Obama in the 2012 election, a reflection of a demographic tsunami threatening to destroy the GOP. The second is that, setting aside blind prejudice and “us-versus-them” mentalities, immigration reform is essentially conservative.

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It seems the conservatives who are most skeptical of immigration reform don’t oppose the merits of Rubio’s framework, so much as they simply refuse to believe it would ever be enacted or enforced.

In other words, they simply don’t trust that the law will be obeyed. They believe Democrats can do whatever they want, and the best conservatives can hope for is to slow them down and not give them any ideas.

This is very destructive for democracy. I wish I could say the cynicism and paranoia was entirely unfounded.

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Rubio’s bill is nothing but amnesty. It isn’t even “amnesty thinly disguised as border enforcement.” This is a wolf in wolf’s clothing

The only thing the newly legalized illegal immigrants won’t get immediately is citizenship. Rubio claims that under his plan, they won’t be able to vote or go on welfare. But in practice, they’ll have to wait only until the ACLU finds a judge to say otherwise…

With Hispanics on track to become the largest ethnic group in California this year, the state that gave us Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan is incapable of electing any Republican statewide anymore. Taxes keep going up, and there’s no one left to pay the bill.

That will be our entire country if Republicans fall for Rubio’s phony “Enforcement First!” plan. Perplexingly, some Republicans seem determined to turn the whole nation into California, in the foolish hope of winning one last election.

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“There are Republicans who will tear up their Republican voting cards over this,” said Dan Stein, the president of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, which opposes the bill.

Rubio is widely considered to be among the party’s top-tier contenders in 2016, but this wasn’t necessarily a fight he needed to be involved in. Not only does the effort contain the chance of angering hardcore primary voters, but Rubio, the son of Cuban exiles, would be able to get Hispanic voters and those pushing for a more moderating voice on immigration within the party merely by his presence.

“Rubio has tried to neutralize [the anger on the right] because of the credibility he has with Tea Party folks, but once real measures are put down in black and white you are going to see the bloggers and talk-show hosts on the right become less and less polite,” said Mark Krikorian, the director of the Center for Immigration Studies, which is devoted to limited immigration. “Rubio’s stock among conservatives is going to start going down over the next six months, and I think he has pretty much doomed his chances for 2016.”

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At least two 2012 polls provided some evidence that support for large-scale immigration alienates white voters.

Fifty-seven percent of “white working-class Americans … agree that illegal immigrants taking jobs that would otherwise be filled by American citizens are responsible for our current economic problems,” said an August survey of 2,501 Americans by the Public Religion Research Institute…

That poll was echoed by a Quinnipiac University poll whose results are a mirror of the Latino Decisions survey.

Quinnipiac’s poll showed that 27 percent of voters in Ohio and Pennsylvania said Obama’s de facto amnesty policy made them less likely to vote for the president’s re-election. Only 11.5 percent of voters in the two states said the policy made them more supportive of Obama, said the survey.

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Public attitudes about immigration: Immigration policy is not a top priority for the U.S. general public or for Hispanics. According to a recent survey of U.S. adults, 39% said that dealing with the issue of illegal immigration should be a top priority for the president and the Congress, placing 17th on a list of policy priorities (Pew Research Center, 2013). For Hispanics, one-third said the issue of immigration was extremely important to them personally, behind issues like the economy and jobs, education and health care (Lopez and Gonzalez-Barrera, 2012).

Attitudes about immigration policy priorities: Among U.S. adults, 28% say the priority for dealing with illegal immigration should be given to tighter restrictions on illegal immigration while 27% say creating a path to citizenship should be the priority. A plurality (42%) says both tactics should be given equal priority. (Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, 2012). Latinos are more likely than the general public (42% versus 27%) to say the priority should be a path to citizenship for immigrants who are in the U.S. illegally. Just 10% of Latinos say priority should be given to better border security and enforcement. Latinos (46%) and the general public (42%) are about equally likely to say priority should be given to enforcement and legalization (Lopez, Gonzalez-Barrera and Motel, 2011).

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Yes, there will be fewer whites and more minorities in the future, and Republicans will have to adjust. But the situation is more complicated than that.

Start with the obvious: If demographics were determinative, then Republicans shouldn’t have gained 63 seats in the House of Representatives in 2010—the largest midterm shift since 1938—while also taking 30 governorships…

The major impediment is the harsh rhetoric of some Republicans regarding immigration. The solution is less about policy than about respect for the Hispanic community. If federal immigration law is reformed with substantial Republican support—including for a long and demanding but achievable process of earning legal status—the GOP can consistently earn 35%-40% among Hispanics. Having Sen. Marco Rubio as the GOP spokesman on immigration issues will hasten the GOP recovery.

Demography isn’t destiny because nothing is permanent in politics—and Democrats’ insistence to the contrary will likely lead them to overreach, ignoring issues such as jobs, anemic growth and deficits in order to tackle gun control and climate change.

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McCain said he hoped to get at least 80 votes for any bill that eventually comes to the floor, although he conceded that there would be naysayers…

If the issue isn’t resolved, McCain said that some states, like his own — which have large Hispanic populations — “will go from Republican to Democratic over time.”

“I think it’s a danger,” McCain said of Republicans permanently forfeiting the Hispanic vote.

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My Chicago trip was Monday. Chicago still sucks.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 30, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Um, squirrel?

wolfsDad on January 30, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Fry me up some, I’m hungry.

JPeterman on January 30, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Did Rubio vote yea on Senator Kerry For Sec. State?

Yah, I thought so.

Dismissed!

can_con on January 30, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Rubio’s bill is nothing but amnesty.

It’s not amnesty; it’s earn-esty.

Sheesh.

steebo77 on January 30, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Border enforcement first…

… then we can talk.

What’s the problem…?

Seven Percent Solution on January 30, 2013 at 10:32 PM

I’d say E-Verify is even more important than the actual border issue.

anotherJoe on January 30, 2013 at 11:04 PM

We already have immigration laws that are being ignored. What’s the possibility of passing more laws that will be ignored?

And, pecan.

Fallon on January 30, 2013 at 11:05 PM

…her territory is still going…down under!

KOOLAID2 on January 30, 2013 at 10:46 PM

I just paid a visit.

steebo77 on January 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Beat them. Beat this “charisma” BS and McCain’s condescending bullying. Principles have to win. And I agree with those who say that if we lose this we can kiss the 2nd Amendment goodbye.

rrpjr on January 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM

SWalker on January 30, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Love ya, but that sounds like one of Alex Jones conspiracy theories…and I don’t ‘do’ conspiracy theories.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 30, 2013 at 11:03 PM

That’s no conspiracy theory darling, it’s just a subjective opinion, one which just happens to express the thought that the world would be a safer and happier place were there considerable less senators and Journolister in it. Therefore a stupid accident on the part of one of those a fore mentioned senators that reduced the number of senators and journolister could not realistically be considered a unfortunate or bad thing.

SWalker on January 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM

SWalker on January 30, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Was so looking forward to that retirement check too:) Guess I will just have to forgo that pleasure, FEMA Camp number for me?;)

MarshFox on January 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Spark, Scrumpy has left for the day. Told us that shes got a hot date. ;-)

tommy71 on January 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Chicago still sucks.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 30, 2013 at 11:03 PM

But, did you like the “Welcome Twerp!” signs along I-90?

Fallon on January 30, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Good evening all.
This thread is kind of like groundhog day from yesterday’s, but there’s still plenty of opining to do. HOnestly though, we all know how it’s going to end: R’s will get bent over and get nothing in return.

Jackalope on January 30, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Wino on January 30, 2013 at 11:01 PM

And that “11 million” is a joke number that was stale 6 years ago (and interestingly hasn’t budged since it was first mentioned). Back in 1986, the estimate for illegals to surrender to was 750,000. By the time it was over the actual number of criminals aided and abetted by the federal government was over 3 million.

The accurate number of illegals was likely over 20 million back when the left first admitted to the 11 million figure (and we know that whatever the despicable, lying scumbag left will admit to can’t be close to the truth) and it’s only gotten larger since (and will explode further with more treasonous action by Congress and the White House).

So, I would say that your figures, as sad as they are, are still far short of reality. And then we have all the immediate family members who would be dragged in … It boggles the mind.

My big question (with respect to latino illegals) is, “How many nations do latinos actually own and operate that they have to break into America?” They’ve got over a continent and a half of resource rich, gorgeous territory … but they all have to run away from Latin and South America to force themselves on the US. It’s friggin ridiculous.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 30, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Is negative gdp and fed reserve policy, and deficit spending a bad thing?

wolly4321 on January 30, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Hiya Jackalope, hows the baby coming along? :-)

tommy71 on January 30, 2013 at 11:09 PM

You need to get the talking points first.

RickB on January 30, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Oh yeah..

I am a failure…:(

:)

Electrongod on January 30, 2013 at 11:09 PM

SWalker on January 30, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Was so looking forward to that retirement check too:) Guess I will just have to forgo that pleasure, FEMA Camp number for me?;)

MarshFox on January 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM

I don’t know the number, <a href="View Larger Map“>but I can guess the address…

SWalker on January 30, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Border enforcement first…

… then we can talk.

What’s the problem…?

Seven Percent Solution on January 30, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Border enforcement is totally meaningless without interior enforcement … and interior enforcement is exactly what Rubio, the sh!thead, and these slugs in Washington refuse to do. There’s really nothing else to talk about. Interior enforcement is everything and that is what they are crying it would be inhumane to enforce. That pretty much says it all. Rubio and the rest of the turds really hate the idea of the nation-state and they are working hard to destroy it.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 30, 2013 at 11:11 PM

SWalker on January 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Father, she was referring to the litmus test link, or at least I think so.

MarshFox on January 30, 2013 at 11:11 PM

tommy71 on January 30, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Hi Tommy. We’re doing quite well today, and thank you for asking.

Jackalope on January 30, 2013 at 11:11 PM

Guess what I get to do this afternoon while you all are having night fun on QOTD. Go to a senior leadership seminar on wait for it, wait! “Women in Combat”

MarshFox on January 30, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Wonder if they’ll cover my any of my ex-wife’s exploits?

TXUS on January 30, 2013 at 11:12 PM

SWalker on January 30, 2013 at 11:10 PM

You know there is no way they would put us together in one:)

Ok, it is off to my seminar, have fun creatures of the glade, if fate provides I may get a chance to poof back in:)

MarshFox on January 30, 2013 at 11:13 PM

’t know, couldn’t figure out why we didn’t seal it off after 9-11. Would have been a prudent time for that sort of thing. No balls I guess.

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 10:37 PM

It wasn’t sealed after 9-11 because George W. Bush didn’t want it sealed. Bush43 always seemed more concerned about offending Mexicans than U.S. citizens.

bw222 on January 30, 2013 at 11:14 PM

B, apple?

tommy71 on January 30, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Border enforcement is totally meaningless without interior enforcement

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 30, 2013 at 11:11 PM

True. Anywhere from a third to a half of illegal immigrants entered the country legally on visas and then overstayed. I think the most recent estimate put it at something like 45%.

steebo77 on January 30, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Fallon on January 30, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Ha. I didn’t go any farther than River north. My friend was over-tired and was whining. We got together @ 11:30…and by 1700 I was heading back to O’Hare. I got up @ 0300 Monday and finally went to bed @…around 2100 last night.

I found Chi to be much ruder, much faster-paced, and much more hostile than I did 2 years ago. I felt like a spy trapped behind enemy lines.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 30, 2013 at 11:15 PM

See ya later, MarshFox.

tommy71 on January 30, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Fire doesn’t melt steel..

Electrongod on January 30, 2013 at 10:40 PM

Dear Mr Electrongod:

Dude, why do you hate OUR President so much?

Only hate-hate-haters, Birthers, and nucking futters would accuse OUR President of covering up the greatest conspiracy since the CIA, MIC, KGB, CuIS, NVA, FBI, Jewish Mafia, Marcello, LBJ, Ed Clark, Billy Sol Estes, Clifton Carter, the Pentagon, USPHHS, Cutter Labs, the Secret Service, DPD, Howard Hunt, L, Ron Hubbard, the Black Panthers, SDS, PLO, Mossad, Morgus the Magnificient, Dr No, VRWC, Santa Claus, Bugs Bunny, George Jetson, Morticia Addams, Cousin Itt, Uncle Fester, Napoleon Solo, Illya Kullyakin, Phyllis Diller, the Rat Pack in retaliation for giving Marilyn a lethal Seconal enema, Major Bennett Marco, Raymond Shaw, Robert McNamara, John Seigenthaler, Sr., Mary Jo Kopechne, Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Micky Dolenz, Gary Powers, Elvis Presley, KKK, NSDAP, and a draq queen named Lypsinka conspired to assassinate President Kennedy for George W Bush, the man that gave us the worst recession since the Great Depression, lied us into a war of choice in Iraq, disappeared Saddam’s WMD stockpile that even our Vice-Preezy said were catalogued by the weapons inspectors, killed innocent men, women and children in Afghanistan, tortured poor, misunderstood terrorists, blew up the levees in New Orleans, and let Osama bin Laden go scot-free!

Only an unpatriotic traitor or the criminally insane would think Obama would cover up THAT for Bush! When I talked about all of that nano-thermite and “fire doesn’t melt steel” stuff, it was only because Darth Cheney was using MK-ULTRA on me to make me THINK that 9/11 was a huge conspiracy. It was a false flag-false flag conspiracy to discredit dissenters like me by making us look like foolish moonbats jacked up on asshattery.

It took the election of President Obama for me to understand that I was completely MIXED UP about my conspiracy theories. MY President would NEVER keep anything like that from the American people. So, the FACT that he hasn’t told us that Bush was in on 9/11 means that Bush must have been telling the truth…but only about that so don’t start getting all excited or something. He STILL sucked. He is STILL a war criminal. He STILL should be on trial in The Hague for crimes against humanity and Gaia.

Barack Obama/Michelle Obama 2016!

Sincerely,

Rosie O’Donnell

Resist We Much on January 30, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Come to Tucson. Well drive south. I’ll show you the border, or lack of one.

I don’t want to hear the bullshit. I live here.

wolly4321 on January 30, 2013 at 11:17 PM

alt, you’d make a good spy. A bit annoying, but good nonetheless. :-)

tommy71 on January 30, 2013 at 11:17 PM

tommy71 on January 30, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Nope, but she does make an awesome apple pie. I have a lot of favorites.

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 11:18 PM

“It doesn’t feel right in some instances to allow people who have come here undocumented to be able to stay. I know some people are uncomfortable with that notion,” said Rubio, a son of immigrants. “But I would just say this to you: If this country goes downhill, there’s nowhere else in the world. There’s nothing else. There’s no replacement for it. There’s no alternative for America. It’s either us or no one.”

That’s actually a non sequitur. There is no connection between the two parts of Rubio’s statement. Is he an idiot or a demagogue?

Igor R. on January 30, 2013 at 11:18 PM

McCain on Cavuto the other day was so outrageously outraged that Eric Bolling asked why we should trust that the boarder will be secured. He was all “we’re a superb nation of exceptionalism, how dare you suggest that we can’t do it” (paraphrasing). What a fraud. The obvious follow-up question would have been “then why hasn’t it been done, are the Feds choosing to blow it off?”

McLame is so stale, can’t wait until he just goes away.

Jackalope on January 30, 2013 at 11:18 PM

MarshFox on January 30, 2013 at 11:11 PM

Indeedy.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 30, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Love this. He is an old acquaintance. Funny!

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 11:20 PM

Not Piers.

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 11:20 PM

Fire doesn’t melt steel..

Electrongod on January 30, 2013 at 10:40 PM

Dear Mr Electrongod:

Dude, why do you hate OUR President so much?

Only hate-hate-haters, Birthers, and nucking futters would accuse OUR President of covering up the greatest conspiracy since the CIA, MIC, KGB, CuIS, NVA, FBI, Jewish Mafia, Marcello, LBJ, Ed Clark, Billy Sol Estes, Clifton Carter, the Pentagon, USPHHS, Cutter Labs, the Secret Service, DPD, Howard Hunt, L, Ron Hubbard, the Black Panthers, SDS, PLO, Mossad, Morgus the Magnificient, Dr No, VRWC, Santa Claus, Bugs Bunny, George Jetson, Morticia Addams, Cousin Itt, Uncle Fester, Napoleon Solo, Illya Kullyakin, Phyllis Diller, the Rat Pack in retaliation for giving Marilyn a lethal Seconal enema, Major Bennett Marco, Raymond Shaw, Robert McNamara, John Seigenthaler, Sr., Mary Jo Kopechne, Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Micky Dolenz, Gary Powers, Elvis Presley, KKK, NSDAP, and a draq queen named Lypsinka conspired to kill President Kennedy for George W Bush, the man that gave us the worst recession since the Great Depression, lied us into a war of choice in Iraq, disappeared Saddam’s WMD stockpile that even our Vice-Preezy said were catalogued by the weapons inspectors, killed innocent men, women and children in Afghanistan, tortured poor, misunderstood terrorists, blew up the levees in New Orleans, and let Osama bin Laden go scot-free!

Only an unpatriotic traitor or the criminally insane would think Obama would cover up THAT for Bush! When I talked about all of that nano-thermite and “fire doesn’t melt steel” stuff, it was only because Darth Cheney was using MK-ULTRA on me to make me THINK that 9/11 was a huge conspiracy. It was a false flag-false flag conspiracy to discredit dissenters like me by making us look like foolish moonbats jacked up on a$$hattery.

It took the election of President Obama for me to understand that I was completely MIXED UP about my conspiracy theories. MY President would NEVER keep anything like that from the American people. So, the FACT that he hasn’t told us that Bush was in on 9/11 means that Bush must have been telling the truth…but only about that so don’t start getting all excited or something. He STILL sucked. He is STILL a war criminal. He STILL should be on trial in The Hague for crimes against humanity and Gaia.

Barack Obama/Michelle Obama 2016!

Sincerely,

Rosie O’Donnell

Resist We Much on January 30, 2013 at 11:20 PM

wolly4321 on January 30, 2013 at 11:17 PM

I have a daughter that lives in Hereford which is less that 15 miles north of that line they call a border. She works for Border Patrol on the Technology side of things. She laughed so hard she cried when Nappy visited and said the border was the most secure it had ever been.

chemman on January 30, 2013 at 11:20 PM

That’s actually a non sequitur. There is no connection between the two parts of Rubio’s statement. Is he an idiot or a demagogue?

Igor R. on January 30, 2013 at 11:18 PM

He’s an idiot trying to be a demagogue.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 30, 2013 at 11:21 PM

Igor R. on January 30, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Long time no see Igor. How you doing?

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 11:21 PM

God evening..:)

Dire Straits on January 30, 2013 at 11:22 PM

McLame is so stale, can’t wait until he just goes away.

He has found a pretty young hispanic son who will carry on his work.

Igor R. on January 30, 2013 at 11:22 PM

tommy71 on January 30, 2013 at 11:17 PM

Though I’ve got a bit of a Chicago accent, was wearing a Cubs scarf and a Cubs hoodie(okay, the hoodie was for the Brownfield, TX Cubs)-I just felt unsafe and leery. I wasn’t event crossing on Red. *In Chi-only tourists cross on green.*

annoyinglittletwerp on January 30, 2013 at 11:22 PM

I felt like a spy trapped behind enemy lines.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 30, 2013 at 11:15 PM

I understand. I feel that way most days here. Ya know Illinois just got a credit downgrade, Chicago is going for the record for murders in January and we had a snow storm today. I’d head to Texas if I could.

Fallon on January 30, 2013 at 11:23 PM

God evening..:)

Dire Straits on January 30, 2013 at 11:22 PM

God Evening to you friend! ; )

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 11:23 PM

Long time no see Igor. How you doing?

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 11:21 PM

Just FANTASTIC Bmore…well same as before really. How have you been?

Igor R. on January 30, 2013 at 11:24 PM

Dire…

KCB on January 30, 2013 at 11:25 PM

Fire doesn’t melt steel..

Electrongod on January 30, 2013 at 10:40 PM

It can only be found in rocks underground and . . . after somehow being freed from them, beaten into shape by large persons of any gender who happen to be covered in soot and standing next to fires

– and then these beaten sticks can be bolted into skyscrapers that can be brought down ONLY by explosive devices planted by W

– and by explosive devices, we don’t mean any sort of exothermic reactors, but just general boom-things that don’t actually rely on the same principle idea that fire melts steel.

– next up:

Chapter II: Special Theory of Relativity: Sex Without Consequences

Chapter III: General Theory of Relativity: Cause Without Effect

Chapter IV: How to Create Jobs Through Unemployment

Chapter V: How to Reduce Debt Through Debt Spending

Chapter VI: How to Increase Security Through Arming Enemies

Chapter VII: How to Save Children from Weapons Never Used to Hurt Them

Chapter VIII: How to Save Energy By Using More Energy to Obtain Energy

Chapter IX: How to Improve Health Through Limiting Access to Healthcare and Increasing Its Cost

Chapter X: A Child of Reason: How to Believe Anything Without Evidence and Without Faith

Chapter XI: How to Create a Comprehensive Immigration Reform Plan that Only Accomplishes One Thing

Chapter XII: How to Create a Safer Civilization by Making It Impossible for Citizens to Protect Themselves

Chapter XIII: How to Decrease Crime by Arming Only Criminals

Chapter XIV: Beat Your Gun Barrels into Swords: How to Decrease the Violence and Horror of Violent Crime by Allowing Only the Most Barbaric Tools of Violence

Chapter XV: How to Spur National High-Tech Achievement Through Minimizing Individual Achievement

Chapter XVI: The Space Program: How to Honor Islam

Chapter XVII: Basic Necessities for the XX Sex: Soldiering

Chapter XVIII: Advanced Necessities for the XX Sex: Mathematics

Chapter XIX: Basic Necessities for the XY Sex: Sensitivity

Chapter XX: Advanced Necessities for the XY Sex: How to Empower Your Female Partner Through Hergasm

Chapter XXI: Muhammad: Better than Jesus — or Else

Chapter XXII: Religions: How to Identify the Inner Progressive in Every Prophet

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. . . I can’t believe I’m not running out

. . .

/fridge-run

Axe on January 30, 2013 at 11:26 PM

B, peach?

tommy71 on January 30, 2013 at 11:26 PM

He’s an idiot trying to be a demagogue.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 30, 2013 at 11:21 PM

I lean towards just a demagogue. He has fooled too many people for too long and he went from opposing the amnesty to supporting it like a champ. I hated the bastard from the first moment I heard him speak.

Igor R. on January 30, 2013 at 11:26 PM

God Evening to you friend! ; )

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 11:23 PM

King Obama is takin’ hold.. :)

Electrongod on January 30, 2013 at 11:26 PM

That’s actually a non sequitur. There is no connection between the two parts of Rubio’s statement. Is he an idiot or a demagogue?

Igor R. on January 30, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Nice to see you. Rubio is an idiot and a fraud.

JPeterman on January 30, 2013 at 11:27 PM

Rational immigration controls are not “anti-immigrant”.

Who gets shafted the worst, if there is uncontrolled illegal immigration? LEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

This is the story that we have to push.

SubmarineDoc on January 30, 2013 at 11:27 PM

Igor R. on January 30, 2013 at 11:24 PM

Hanging in there. Trying to keep it together against what sometimes seems to be insurmountable odds. ; )

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 11:27 PM

I originally guessed pecan, but I’m guessing Bmore was so smitten with the Shoe-Fly pie the other day, his better half made him another.

Off to dreamland. Have fun y’all. (That was for Twerp.) It’s fun to keep the posts humming along.

Fallon on January 30, 2013 at 11:28 PM

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 11:23 PM

..:)

Dire Straits on January 30, 2013 at 11:28 PM

B, peach?

tommy71 on January 30, 2013 at 11:26 PM

Week before last or so ago. Piece of trivia for you. Peach is b’s fav.

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 11:29 PM

Nice to see you. Rubio is an idiot and a fraud.

JPeterman on January 30, 2013 at 11:27 PM

Nice to see you old buddy, but that’s a description that fits McLame more. I think this baby faced thug is much more dangerous. I mean he fooled Rush in just a couple of minutes.

Igor R. on January 30, 2013 at 11:29 PM

KCB on January 30, 2013 at 11:25 PM

..:)

Dire Straits on January 30, 2013 at 11:29 PM

..:)

Dire Straits on January 30, 2013 at 11:28 PM

What? Don’t I even get a fist bump or an Lolz or something? ; )

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 11:30 PM

Hanging in there. Trying to keep it together against what sometimes seems to be insurmountable odds. ; )

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 11:27 PM

Personal problems or worried about the general state of affairs?

Igor R. on January 30, 2013 at 11:30 PM

Electrongod on January 30, 2013 at 11:26 PM

*clink*..Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on January 30, 2013 at 11:32 PM

Let’s go to Organpipe NATIONAL Monument camping. National park.

Google it. My backyard. Yea… I need an AR. 30 round “clip” too.

Fools. You drive south of me,, you don’t know. It’s bad.

I’m telling you, I live here. It’s bad.

Rubio, he should visit. No Cubans here crossing. Just drugs and thugs.

wolly4321 on January 30, 2013 at 11:32 PM

Or, blueberry!

Last guess and last post!!!!

Fallon on January 30, 2013 at 11:32 PM

Axe on January 30, 2013 at 11:26 PM

I made some steel once, it took a lot of fire. Bronze was the same way. Matter of fact almost all metals are.

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 11:33 PM

Or, blueberry!

Last guess and last post!!!!

Fallon on January 30, 2013 at 11:32 PM

Correct you are Fallon! Picked em last season, put em up, enjoyed them just a few moments ago. I owe you a dollar. You can swing by Ga. to pick it up. ; )

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 11:34 PM

RIP Patty Andrews.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 30, 2013 at 11:34 PM

I felt like a spy trapped behind enemy lines.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 30, 2013 at 11:15 PM

I understand. I feel that way most days here. Ya know Illinois just got a credit downgrade, Chicago is going for the record for murders in January and we had a snow storm today. I’d head to Texas if I could.

Fallon on January 30, 2013 at 11:23 PM

I’m formerly from Chicago…and I still fanatically and enthusiastically root for the Bears, Cubs, and Blackhawks. The rest of it all can fall into the lake, as far as I’m concerned.

It must be so infuriating for the folks in the rest of Illinois to fund that cesspool of a city.

Jackalope on January 30, 2013 at 11:34 PM

Nice to see you old buddy, but that’s a description that fits McLame more. I think this baby faced thug is much more dangerous. I mean he fooled Rush in just a couple of minutes.

Igor R. on January 30, 2013 at 11:29 PM

O.K. they are both idiots and frauds. And I totally agree about that dangerous stuff. The first time I ever heard him, something just didn’t click. Must be that Commie crap I had to live through.

JPeterman on January 30, 2013 at 11:34 PM

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 11:30 PM

lolz..:)

Dire Straits on January 30, 2013 at 11:34 PM

*clink*..Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on January 30, 2013 at 11:32 PM

*clunk* god evening to you..

[crap…cheap china obama…]

Electrongod on January 30, 2013 at 11:35 PM

Fallon on January 30, 2013 at 11:23 PM

It was 48 today. I was freezing. What?

annoyinglittletwerp on January 30, 2013 at 11:35 PM

True, I do love Pecan. Yum! But tonight was Blueberry! Yummy!!!

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 11:35 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on January 30, 2013 at 11:34 PM

RIP..

Dire Straits on January 30, 2013 at 11:35 PM

Electrongod on January 30, 2013 at 11:35 PM

rofl..:)

Dire Straits on January 30, 2013 at 11:36 PM

Schumers heart went pitter patter. How romantic! And the bipartisan love affair continues.

tommy71 on January 30, 2013 at 11:36 PM

It wasn’t sealed after 9-11 because George W. Bush didn’t want it sealed. Bush43 always seemed more concerned about offending Mexicans than U.S. citizens.

bw222 on January 30, 2013 at 11:14 PM

I think that trait is in the Bush DNA. George P. moved here from Florida and has a nice little PAC of his own. He’s the next one they’re trying to ram down our throats. All I know is that everyone I talk too says the same thing, no more Bushes.

TxAnn56 on January 30, 2013 at 11:36 PM

Fallon on January 30, 2013 at 11:07 PM

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Ha. I didn’t go any farther than River north. My friend was over-tired and was whining. We got together @ 11:30…and by 1700 I was heading back to O’Hare. I got up @ 0300 Monday and finally went to bed @…around 2100 last night.

I found Chi to be much ruder, much faster-paced, and much more hostile than I did 2 years ago. I felt like a spy trapped behind enemy lines.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 30, 2013 at 11:15 PM

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What d’ya’ mean “felt like ? “

You were a Conservative in Chicago, for the love of Pete. That makes you a spy by anyone’s definition.

So I’ll be expecting you to high-tail over to the Intelligence Office for an immediate “debriefing”.
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Oh . . . . . . and welcome back … : )

listens2glenn on January 30, 2013 at 11:37 PM

LOL. Rubio is an idiot who makes a mockery of conservativism.

And, “ideals” wasn’t the word you were looking for. It doesn’t matter, though, because Rubio is about as conservative as Barky’s butt-buddy, Christie and as eligible for the Presidency as the Indonesian, himself – which is to say, “not”.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 30, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Sorry, I can’t buy into the Let’s Hate Rubio before he’s had a chance to distinguish himself. He’s smart for taking ownership of an immigrant issue. He’s also smart for insisting on enforcement and providing at least some incentive for illegals to come forward, register themselves and start paying taxes and penalties. We’re not going to get an “enforcement only” bill through this Senate or White House. Obama refuses to even enforce the laws on the books. So maybe it’s all posturing and nothing is going to get done. In which case Rubio has just risen to national prominence by demonstrating that Republicans are not xenophobic haters, which is how the Dems smeared us in 2006.

John the Libertarian on January 30, 2013 at 11:37 PM

Personal problems or worried about the general state of affairs?

Igor R. on January 30, 2013 at 11:30 PM

Life in general. We have been presented with some extremely big challenges. It will wear us out if we aren’t extra careful.

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 11:38 PM

Inside the Ring: New al Qaeda threat

A jihadist website posted a new threat by al Qaeda this week that promises to conduct “shocking” attacks on the United States and the West.

The posting appeared on the Ansar al Mujahidin network Sunday and carried the headline, “Map of al Qaeda and its future strikes.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/30/inside-the-ring-new-al-qaeda-threat/

can_con on January 30, 2013 at 11:39 PM

It was 48 today. I was freezing. What?

annoyinglittletwerp on January 30, 2013 at 11:35 PM

That would be a heat wave alt. It only got to 38 in sunny northeast Arizona today.

chemman on January 30, 2013 at 11:39 PM

I felt like a spy trapped behind enemy lines.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 30, 2013 at 11:15 PM

You know what gives it away don’t you? It’s the gunpowder stains on your hands. Wear gloves next time.

TxAnn56 on January 30, 2013 at 11:39 PM

John the Libertarian on January 30, 2013 at 11:37 PM

+ 100..Nice post..I think Rubio has done a good PR campaign here..:)

PS..I will be honest..I say nothing gets done..:)

Dire Straits on January 30, 2013 at 11:40 PM

O.K. they are both idiots and frauds. And I totally agree about that dangerous stuff. The first time I ever heard him, something just didn’t click. Must be that Commie crap I had to live through.

JPeterman on January 30, 2013 at 11:34 PM

He’s already had some financial irregularities, lied about the circumstances of his birth, was always pro-amnesty in Florida, sold himself as a Tea Party guy, went anti-amnesty for a while, changed his mind for no apparent reason, is now peddling the old McClame stuff without any substantive changes, pretending to be deaf and dumb when it comes to instant legalization REGARDLESS of what happens with the stupid “border enforcement”, is having a bromance with Hannity and got Rush all misty eyed. Not bad for an idiot. A traitor, that’s what he is.

Igor R. on January 30, 2013 at 11:41 PM

It must be so infuriating for the folks in the rest of Illinois to fund that cesspool of a city.

Jackalope on January 30, 2013 at 11:34 PM

I moved from the Chicago suburbs to the Detroit suburbs in 1991. While Detroit is a pit (although Chicago is rapidly trying to catch up), Michigan is in far better shape than Illinois because Detroit doesn’t control the state government like Chicago does. Since we got rid of “Governor Moleface,” the state is running a surplus and businesses are expanding. Apparently one of the reasons Tori Hunter left the Angels for the Tigers is Michigan’s flat 4.35% income tax. In California he would have paid more than 13% under the state’s new tax laws.

bw222 on January 30, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Tornado’s here today, Snow flurries this evening. Gotta love the South.

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Life in general. We have been presented with some extremely big challenges. It will wear us out if we aren’t extra careful.

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 11:38 PM

I’m sorry to hear that Bmore. Best of luck to you. Bstrong, Bcool, Bmore!

Igor R. on January 30, 2013 at 11:42 PM

tommy71 on January 30, 2013 at 11:36 PM

That is a ruse by Chucky..Don’t buy it..:)

Dire Straits on January 30, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Sincerely,

Rosie O’Donnell

Resist We Much on January 30, 2013 at 11:20 PM

lol — Electron lit both our fuses. :)

Morticia Addams, Cousin Itt, Uncle Fester

Getting dangerously close to mapping all the computers on my lab’s network, by the way. Pugsley is serving files even as I type. :) Wednesday is still in pieces . . . I designed her from scratch. I can only afford to machine the parts in waves . . . she’s the computer . . .

Pointless. Carry on. :)

Axe on January 30, 2013 at 11:43 PM

Pathetic Spin of the Day

Matt Yglesias ✔ @mattyglesias

Impressed by conservatives ability to pretend to believe that Obama is 100% responsible for events 1.5 years into divided government.

Matt Yglesias ✔ @mattyglesias

You can’t fake that kind of bullshit, it takes real conviction.

From the loser STILL blaming Bush!

Don’t you, ConservaTARDS and ReTHUGlicans, EVAH blame Obama for “inheriting” himself!

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Resist We Much on January 30, 2013 at 11:43 PM

. . . I can’t believe I’m not running out

. . .

/fridge-run

Axe on January 30, 2013 at 11:26 PM

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You can resume when you return. But that’s a pretty good start you got going there! … : )

listens2glenn on January 30, 2013 at 11:43 PM

Igor R. on January 30, 2013 at 11:41 PM

When you start digging into his background, it isn’t as pristine as he wants you to believe. He stopped all enforcement bills from getting to the floor when he was speaker in Florida. And that whole timeline of his father leaving Cuba has been questioned. Mountain of debt too.

TxAnn56 on January 30, 2013 at 11:44 PM

TxAnn56 on January 30, 2013 at 11:39 PM

I wore my cowboy boots but only said “y’all” maybe 3 times.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 30, 2013 at 11:44 PM

I think that trait is in the Bush DNA. George P. moved here from Florida and has a nice little PAC of his own. He’s the next one they’re trying to ram down our throats. All I know is that everyone I talk too says the same thing, no more Bushes.

TxAnn56 on January 30, 2013 at 11:36 PM

The whole Bush family have been idiot globalists for a long time. I have no idea why but that is a family trait. That’s why W bent over backwards to help the UN out and keep that pathetic, dangerous organization empowered even after it had fought him so hard. W had threatened to pull the US out (which should have happened) but he turned around and tried to help the UN every chance he got, like a Bush. His problem dealing with illegals was part and parcel of his congenital globalist tendencies – which also affected the idiotic and minimalist way he pursued war, doing the least possible, which is why everything dragged on for years and years.

It was also W’s responsibility to take care of Iran (especially after 9/11) but he abdicated that and, when it was clear that the Indonesian had won, ensured that Iran would get nukes by still refusing to take care of that business.

W did a few good things and he excellent under pressure but, all in all, he sucked and his second term was one of the worst ever. W took a major turn leftwards and took the whole GOP down with him on that journey into idiocy. He never should have run for the second term since he had been emotionally drained from the first, which he executed pretty well.

If I don’t see or hear from another Bush again it will be too soon.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 30, 2013 at 11:45 PM

So how many years is it gonna take for the illegals to become citizens?

tommy71 on January 30, 2013 at 11:46 PM

It’s Rubio Week here at Hot Gas!

4Grace on January 30, 2013 at 11:46 PM

Axe on January 30, 2013 at 11:26 PM

Be careful, Axe, or they might want to hire you to replace Carney.

TXUS on January 30, 2013 at 11:47 PM

Igor R. on January 30, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Thanks Igor, no worries, it will all work out fine. One thing they can’t take away is optimism of which I am in good supply.

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 11:47 PM

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