MSNBC: Um, we can’t reach a conclusion about whether the Sandy Hook dad was “heckled” or not

posted at 8:16 pm on January 30, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via Newsbusters, you’ve been in suspense since this morning about what MSNBC’s “review” of Neil Heslin’s testimony would turn up. Time now to solve the mystery. They had two options: Either double down on the “heckling” interpretation of what happened or admit error and retract find a way to “set the record straight” in the weaseliest, most irritating way possible. MSNBC chose the more ethical of the two. Yay for them.

To repeat a point made this morning, if you have a child in the house old enough to grasp the concept of “heckling,” I’m guessing he/she can give you a well-reasoned opinion about whether this qualifies within 10 seconds of viewing it. MSNBC, meanwhile, remains officially undecided. By the way — have you wondered how many other times during Heslin’s 15-minute-long testimony he was heckled by the allegedly roiling, brutish gun-rights monsters in the audience? Erik Wemple did too.

When you’re done with the MSNBC clip, watch the second clip below (via Mediaite) of Gutfeld and “The Five” taking Bashir and company apart.



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Then you are either one of two things or both. Maybe three. I’ll leave you to ponder that.

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 8:20 PM

…cause youra dumbshit!

KOOLAID2 on January 30, 2013 at 8:20 PM

MSNBC: Um, we can’t reach a conclusion about whether the Sandy Hook dad was “heckled” or not

Stop using NBC video…

Electrongod on January 30, 2013 at 8:21 PM

Pathetic.

supernova on January 30, 2013 at 8:24 PM

We’ve hit the Treyvon Martin moment.

BohicaTwentyTwo on January 30, 2013 at 8:24 PM

MSNBCWhite House: Um, we can’t reach a conclusion about whether the Sandy Hook dad was “heckled” or not

Fixed for accuracy.

JPeterman on January 30, 2013 at 8:24 PM

..I think we need some 1st Amendment restrictions!

KOOLAID2 on January 30, 2013 at 8:24 PM

If Soledad Obrien had more fake videos, she’d still be on the air. Non-ethnic liberals really dig the fake videos.

Curtiss on January 30, 2013 at 8:25 PM

Proggies consider themselves to be so honourable and proper.

Tell me, again, who was it that heckled George W Bush at Obama’s INAUGURATION?

“Na, Na, Hey, Hey, Kiss Him Goodbye!”

WTF heckles anyone at a solemn occasion like THAT except for classless ‘tards?

Nope, no hypocrisy there. Move along.

Resist We Much on January 30, 2013 at 8:25 PM

Resist We Much on January 30, 2013 at 8:25 PM

They heckled Paul Ryan at Bark’s last inauguration.

But worse than that they heckled pretty much everyone at Wellstone’s wake.

Liberals are trash.

Bishop on January 30, 2013 at 8:27 PM

Hypocrisy thy name is Micro Soft National Broadcast Company!

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 8:29 PM

MSNBC, here’s the Washington Post, essentially, asking:

Which one of you pathetic, despicable hacks wants to be the last man to die a senseless, but entirely rabid and ideological, death on Epic Fail Meme Hill?”

Resist We Much on January 30, 2013 at 8:30 PM

MSNBC: Um, we can’t reach a conclusion about whether the Sandy Hook dad was “heckled” or not

The Fifth Column Treasonous Media being, well a Fifth Column Treasonous Media…

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

SWalker on January 30, 2013 at 8:32 PM

1. Put up victims so that they cannot be challenged thereby stifling speech.

2. If a victim invites conversation call it heckling thereby stifling speech.

trend?

MSNBC is lower than a midget snake’s belly.

CW on January 30, 2013 at 8:32 PM

The lady on the left side of the vid has nicer legs than the one sitting across from her on the right of the screen.

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 8:33 PM

Stop using NBC video…

Electrongod on January 30, 2013 at 8:21 PM

+1. I don’t give a hoot what MSNBC considers heckling. What I want to know is why they think it’s just dandy to use deliberatly biased editing of video to completely change context and meaning. That is the only question in my mind.

JusDreamin on January 30, 2013 at 8:33 PM

That is the only question in my mind.

JusDreamin on January 30, 2013 at 8:33 PM

Try reading Saul Alinski’s Rules for Radicals, it’s all in it.

SWalker on January 30, 2013 at 8:36 PM

Bishop on January 30, 2013 at 8:27 PM

I didn’t watch his 2nd. I needed cosmos to get me through the first. That was enough. I knew what was coming. More of his telling me that I was greedy, selfish and the beneficiary of white, heterosexual privilege and, if I just “gave a little bit more” because I really don’t “need” what I have, then the fundamental transformation of the United States of America into My Progressive Little Ponyland would be complete.

Teddy bears would couple with butterflies and birth litters of ladybugs. Lollipops and cupcakes would pay off the national debt. Butterflies and pixie dust would pay for the $222 trillion in unfunded liabilities. The USS Good-High-Speed-Rail-Lollipop would be powered exclusively by unicorns and speed happily over paths of clouds while children grow up to learn the Golden Rule (h/t to verbaluce): “I abhor certainty”…(and be certain about their abhorrence of certainty, too!).

There just wasn’t enough Grey Goose in Manhattan for me to do that to myself again.

Resist We Much on January 30, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Same org that can’t reach a conclusion on whether we have an imbecilic Pres…..

hillsoftx on January 30, 2013 at 8:40 PM

At the founding, the Founding Fathers never envisioned the press to deceptively edit video!

rbj on January 30, 2013 at 8:41 PM

This isn’t what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they wrote the first ammendment. If MSNBC had been around then, I bet they would have skipped it.

kam582 on January 30, 2013 at 8:43 PM

This isn’t what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they wrote the first ammendment. If MSNBC had been around then, I bet they would have skipped it.

kam582 on January 30, 2013 at 8:43 PM

I do not believe our founding fathers would have skipped the first amendment. We are talking about hard, disciplined men. The shites at msnbc would have received the vicious beatings they deserve and the amendment would have been written as is.

M240H on January 30, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Normally I think Gutfeld is a bit of a moron, but he was brilliant in this piece…

JohnGalt23 on January 30, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Maybe they can’t.

1. We said he was and really want him to be.

2. He wasn’t.

. . . mungo, vox: We can’t leave drunk and easy 2 for brittle and chortling 1.

The definition of can: to be able to; have the ability, power, or skill to.

They lack the powah.

On a related note, here’s the definition of feckless: 1. ineffective; incompetent; futile. 2. having no sense of responsibility; indifferent; lazy.

And here’s dumbass: a thoroughly stupid person; blockhead.

Heh. Second time in two hours I’ve linked “dumbass.”

Axe on January 30, 2013 at 8:55 PM

This isn’t what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they wrote the first ammendment. If MSNBC had been around then, I bet they would have skipped it.

kam582 on January 30, 2013 at 8:43 PM

Nonsense. The Founders, while certainly being shocked at how careless MSNBC is towards matters of Liberty and policy, would have recognized them for what they are, and what was planted thick through this country and England: An openly partisan news organization, trying to advance an agenda. What they would have been surprised at is that people would even accept the idea of an “objective” press…

JohnGalt23 on January 30, 2013 at 8:58 PM

NBC/MSNBC are no longer distinguishable. Comcast owns them and condones them.

d1carter on January 30, 2013 at 8:58 PM

while children grow up to learn the Golden Rule (h/t to verbaluce): “I abhor certainty” . . .

Resist We Much on January 30, 2013 at 8:37 PM

That was like an early Christmas for you. :)

Axe on January 30, 2013 at 8:59 PM

He asked the entire chamber a question, stopped, looked around, received a completely respectful response from several people, acknowledged it and then continued.

End of story.

Chuck Schick on January 30, 2013 at 8:59 PM

The lady on the left side of the vid has nicer legs than the one sitting across from her on the right of the screen.

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 8:33 PM

.
Huh … I didn’t notice.

listens2glenn on January 30, 2013 at 9:00 PM

Maybe, we can get Ahmadinejad to send the MSNBC crew to space in a rocket.

I’ll call Beebes in Jerusalem and tell him “Incoming!”

Resist We Much on January 30, 2013 at 9:00 PM

*1 for 2. 1 is drunk and easy. 2 is brittle and chortling.

Ah hell, I baked it. NVM

Axe on January 30, 2013 at 9:00 PM

That was like an early Christmas for you. :)

Axe on January 30, 2013 at 8:59 PM

You’re not kidding!!!

Aw, you know me sooooo well.

{{Hugs}}

lol

Resist We Much on January 30, 2013 at 9:07 PM

We’ve hit the Treyvon Martin moment.

[BohicaTwentyTwo on January 30, 2013 at 8:24 PM]

Yes, and no. Their actions aren’t much different, but NBC had to act on their defamation of Zimmerman because he could sue their lying little pants off. Here there is no such worry so they’ll stick with their fraudulent editing and defamatory characterization of the events at the hearing.

Dusty on January 30, 2013 at 9:10 PM

I do not believe our founding fathers would have skipped the first amendment. We are talking about hard, disciplined men. The shites at msnbc would have received the vicious beatings they deserve and the amendment would have been written as is.M240H on January 30, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Indeed. They had a cure for libel, slander and outright character assassination — challenge to a duel. Even politicians were not immune from being challenged. Bring it back and we’ll be civil in short order. Even knowing you could get punched with no recourse but to punch back or run was quite civililizing

AH_C on January 30, 2013 at 9:12 PM

God bless the Heslin family. I do not want to imagine their grief.

The fact that MSNBC cannot reach a conclusion that Mr Heslin was heckled, is by default rock solid proof that he was not.

What I could understand from the recording were people saying “We can’t say anything” after being heckled by Mr Heslin.

WestTexasBirdDog on January 30, 2013 at 9:18 PM

SWalker on January 30, 2013 at 8:32 PM


Here’s the Congressional record

HotAirian on January 30, 2013 at 9:27 PM

…NBC had to act on their defamation of Zimmerman because he could sue their lying little pants off. Here there is no such worry…
Dusty on January 30, 2013 at 9:10 PM

The “heckler” was publicly identified and is not a public figure. He can sue for damages.

scrubjay on January 30, 2013 at 9:30 PM

MSNBC is lower than a midget snake’s belly. so low they could walk under a midget snake’s belly while wearing stilts and a top hat.

CW on January 30, 2013 at 8:32 PM

FIFY

ghostwalker1 on January 30, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Indeed. They had a cure for libel, slander and outright character assassination — challenge to a duel. Even politicians were not immune from being challenged. Bring it back and we’ll be civil in short order. Even knowing you could get punched with no recourse but to punch back or run was quite civililizing

AH_C on January 30, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Thought about that. For a long time, there have been people talking like you and people talking like them. And the way of handling things was your way, even in those places and times where and when they banned personal combat. What we’ve done with the whole thing is to create a solution, leaving a gaping hole: we decided we would do without personal combat (it creates problems) and vest arbitration authority entirely with law enforcement officials and the law they enforce — but then we dispensed with any laws that would give us an answer for assaults on honor. Property, yes; reputation such that its loss creates a property issue, yes; being dishonored with no measurable material harm, no. I know the law’s more complicated; I’m trying to use the broadest brush possible.

You’d need to close the gap by rebuilding a common, social sense of honor, work on tightening its definition, and build concurrently public support for its protection — to get the world you want.

I’m all for it. Beats the world progressives are trying to build. But it’s way over there; we aren’t even close.

Just talkin’. Could be wrong.

You cat killing, remote hogging, gas-station robbing jerk!

*yawn*

See? No fear. No penalty.

Axe on January 30, 2013 at 9:41 PM

“Can’t reach a conclusion?” Someone’s being overpaid.

GarandFan on January 30, 2013 at 9:43 PM

Since President Obama took office, federal gun prosecutions have decreased by about 45% from the Bush administration, going from about 11,000 weapons cases to 6,000.

So, obviously, we need MORE GUN CONTROL LAWS for Obama NOT TO ENFORCE!

Lib logic, it’s a special thang!

Resist We Much on January 30, 2013 at 10:32 PM

But they’re sure that people were spitting on Elijah Cummings as he and Nanzi Pelosi walked the gavel of evil through the angry mob of lowly Americans to usher in Obamacare.

SouthernGent on January 30, 2013 at 10:50 PM

I wish Red Eye were on at a less red-eye time. Gutfeld has more monologue time there.

bmmg39 on January 30, 2013 at 11:02 PM

I wish Red Eye were on at a less red-eye time. Gutfeld has more monologue time there.

bmmg39 on January 30, 2013 at 11:02 PM

SECONDED.

Does he still do the Greg-A-Logue? (“It’s a monologue, but with Greg!”)

Myron Falwell on January 30, 2013 at 11:22 PM

MSNBC are a pack of disgusting liars that ought to be whipped for their distortions.

rayra on January 31, 2013 at 3:10 AM

What happened to Megan Kelly’s face? Yikes!

TheAudacityofNOPE on January 31, 2013 at 7:57 AM

It’s not like MSNBC hasn’t done this before…remember the RNC and creative editing of black speakers?

JetBoy on January 31, 2013 at 8:29 AM

I heckle this.

Akzed on January 31, 2013 at 8:56 AM

Inter alia.

Akzed on January 31, 2013 at 8:59 AM

The news media uses editing techniques that are only appropriate in feature films – that is, moving audio around, creating sound (or pictures) where none exist, and creating context out of thin air (or reworking context to their liking). The only difference between feature film makers like Steven Spielberg and J. J. Abrams and the news media is that the news media is supposed to report the facts!

The news media is dead to me. Long live new media! Let’s just hope O doesn’t turn off the spigot and close the Internet.

falcon on January 31, 2013 at 9:02 AM

rayra on January 31, 2013 at 3:10 AM
Resist We Much on January 30, 2013 at 8:25 PM
SWalker on January 30, 2013 at 8:32 PM

As painfully obvious as the yellow journalism in the Spanish American War, isn’t it?

Any sort of participatory problem solving requires the best information and the best dissemination/flow possible.

We can’t have fliers and townhall meetings to haul the low information participants into the light.

The legal system is straightjacketed by their biases and fear of an intervention.

Time for me (or someone) to check the MBA books.

IlikedAUH2O on January 31, 2013 at 9:49 AM

Greg Gutfeld is fast becoming the smartest man in news.

No Myron Falwell, sadly he isn’t doing the Gregalogues, or Mail Time. It’s too bad, but it’s still the best show on cable news, bar none!

netster007x on February 15, 2013 at 12:50 AM