Dick Durbin to Gabby Giffords’s husband: We should have held a hearing after the Tucson shooting

posted at 6:46 pm on January 30, 2013 by Allahpundit

Mark Kelly’s a smart guy — an astronaut, as you likely know, with a degree in aeronautical engineering — so I think he must know the reason why there was no hearing after his wife was shot. And if he knows the reason why, he must be seething internally listening to Durbin gladhand him this way. Right? If you’re serious about getting gun-control legislation passed through Congress, the aftermath of the Tucson shooting was a real opportunity. Members of both chambers knew Giffords personally; there was a nationally televised memorial for the victims in Arizona at which Obama spoke. He could have thrown the weight of his public influence into demanding new gun regs, the way he’s doing now after Newtown, instead of spending his politcal capital on … whatever he was doing in 2011. Ignoring the economy. Whatever.

Point is, there was plenty of public grief for Giffords and still is, which is why she and Kelly were on the Hill today testifying and receiving media coverage so sympathetic that it occasionally lapsed into myth-making. So why didn’t Durbin pound the table for a hearing back then? Because, silly: It was inconvenient for Obama’s and the Democrats’ electoral chances. It’s hard to remember now, but there were so many vulnerable Senate Dems whose seats were up last year that, circa 2011, many pundits (including me) thought the odds were better than not that the GOP would take back the chamber. Given the degree of gun ownership in rural parts of swing states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, tackling guns would have been extremely risky for The One and the party at large and might have become a huge distraction from the daily messaging barrage about the plutocratic Republican nominee who gave all his workers’ spouses cancer. Now that he’s been reelected and is throwing his popularity behind this, it’s a bit safer for the next crop of vulnerable Dems to engage on it. (But only a bit.) So imagine Mark Kelly sitting there listening to this patronizing bilge from Durbin, knowing that the reason the Deeply Concerned liberals in government couldn’t lead on gun control after his wife was shot through the head is because they were too worried about their own sweet asses on election day. That’s how much they “care.”

Exit question: What’s the relative of someone who was killed in Aurora last year supposed to think of this? Click the image to watch.


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Exit question: What’s the relative of someone who was killed in Aurora last year supposed to think of this? Click the image to watch.

That there not part of the political ruling class so they’re essentially meaningless?

Mr. Arrogant on January 30, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Everything these clowns do is about acquiring more power for themselves or protecting what they have.

If Giffords had been a R the media would have buried the story almost as soon as it happened and Obama’s fake get-along speech would have never happened.

gsherin on January 30, 2013 at 6:53 PM

I disagree… Mark Kelly is using his wife for political reasons… Shameful…

sandee on January 30, 2013 at 6:54 PM

Man you’d think a principled dem would speak up about this. Oh wait.

DanMan on January 30, 2013 at 6:55 PM

I question whether or not Giffords or Kelly would even care…I just get this feeling that this is all about them attempting to stay in the beltway circuit, do some paid speaking engagements, maybe get a job at some lobbying group, etc.

And not that she’s glad that she was shot, but after she couldn’t perform her duties as a congresswoman and he’s done being an astronaut, this allows them a new “opportunity” from that standpoint. Why else would a smart person actually sit there and say that tragedies like theirs need to force the government to create new laws that would have done nothing to stop their own tragedy?

Does it make me a horrible person for being that cynical?

nextgen_repub on January 30, 2013 at 6:55 PM

The original AWB did NOT stop Columbine, Paducah, Jonesboro, etc. Sheriff Dipshit in Tucson, who tried to blame the Tea Party, Sarah Palin, right-wing rhetoric, etc, KNEW about Jared Loughner’s problems BEFORE he went on his rampage.

What would have been more effective in preventing the deaths of those in Tucson – an AWB with an open border or a legal system that would have enabled society to institutionalise Jared Loughner? (Remember, people in his class at college – from DAY ONE – said that they were afraid that he would shoot up the class. It was THAT apparent).

Work on the things that will have the most impact and also remember that, in order to be constitutional, any law will have to survive strict scrutiny because the Second Amendment recognises a natural, individual right to bear arms, which has nothing whatsoever to do with hunting or sport.

While the deaths of 323 from ALL rifles are horrible, a ban on assault rifles or magazines when there are 3.26 million AR-15s in the country, ALONE, that are legally and peacefully owned seems incredibly overbroad.

Such an infringement upon the rights of millions of law-abiding Americans to POSSIBLY prevent a handful of deaths each year from assault rifles is unlikely to survive strict scrutiny, especially in the wake of Heller and McDonald.

Resist We Much on January 30, 2013 at 6:56 PM

gsherin on January 30, 2013 at 6:53 PM

You recall the twitter feed from the left when Tony Snow died? 100 times what they did when Bush41 was in the hospital a few weeks ago.

DanMan on January 30, 2013 at 6:57 PM

I just saw Wayne LaPierre’s testimony before the Senate and when he’s talking about the government not being there he probably missed the point where guns were confiscated in New Orleans. The point is that there are times when, not only will you need a gun, you might even need a large magazine. The Democrats better be careful, I’m sure there are more than a few people who live on Staten Island and Long Island who wished they had some firepower after Sandy.

bflat879 on January 30, 2013 at 7:00 PM

Does it make me a horrible person for being that cynical?

nextgen_repub on January 30, 2013 at 6:55 PM

1000 times no. You are being a realist.

DanMan on January 30, 2013 at 7:00 PM

If you’re serious about getting gun-control legislation passed through Congress, the aftermath of the Tucson shooting was a real opportunity.

Their only concern was target control back then. Look how far they’ve advanced.

CTSherman on January 30, 2013 at 7:01 PM

So imagine Mark Kelly sitting there listening to this patronizing bilge from Durbin,

Who gives a rat’s azz what Mark Kelly thinks, he wrote a book blasting the Tea Party, blaming them for the shooting of his wife and he’s been on countless talk shows making the same claim.

JPeterman on January 30, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Dick Durbin, just exactly would an assault weapons and large ammo magazine ban work, especially in Mark Kelly’s home state of Texas or his wife’s home of Arizona, WHEN THE BORDER IS WIDE OPEN?

Will gun traffickers magically obey the same laws that drug and human traffickers flagrantly break on a daily basis or are the scientists in My Progressive Little Ponyland working on some giant magnet or something that will strip guns from traffickers in mid-air, as they crossed the border?

Or, maybe, you haven’t thought about this, right?

Utterly unsurprising.

Resist We Much on January 30, 2013 at 7:01 PM

DanMan on January 30, 2013 at 6:57 PM

I remember when Reagan and Nixon died prior to twitter and it was ugly, but of course none of them were ever called out on it. I can only imagine how bad it’s going to be when Bush 43 dies.

gsherin on January 30, 2013 at 7:02 PM

Who gives a rat’s azz what Mark Kelly thinks, he wrote a book blasting the Tea Party, blaming them for the shooting of his wife and he’s been on countless talk shows making the same claim.

JPeterman on January 30, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Exactly…

sandee on January 30, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Durbiin has been around long enough to have that pandering lie stuff down to a T.

docflash on January 30, 2013 at 7:04 PM

sandee on January 30, 2013 at 6:54 PM

I agree… they’re grooming him to eventually occupy Gabby’s old seat in DC.

The fact that he posed for the cameras after her speech sickened me. Rather than allowing her to have her moment – her time – he quickly moved his head into frame, so that he’d be included in the post-testimony photos.

Hill60 on January 30, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Mark Kelly, isn’t he the guy that left the planet when his wife needed him the most?

Flange on January 30, 2013 at 7:06 PM

Just another in a infinitude of reasons why scum bags like Little Diq DirtBag, et al are to be despised and hated.

RavingLunatic on January 30, 2013 at 7:06 PM

Turban is a evil man.

Bmore on January 30, 2013 at 7:10 PM

Allah forgot the other big reason why the Dems didn’t push gun control at the time: because their immediate reaction was to smear Tea Partiers as a bunch of violent, crazed animals one step away from a murderous rampage. Any talk of gun control would have interfered with that message.

HidetheDecline on January 30, 2013 at 7:15 PM

The spectacle of a brain-damaged Giffords telling Congress “we must do something” was very disturbing to me. Taking advantage of her pain and suffering, with emotionality as a substitute for sober analysis.

Paul-Cincy on January 30, 2013 at 7:16 PM

Does it make me a horrible person for being that cynical?

nextgen_repub on January 30, 2013 at 6:55 PM
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Not at all. You haven’t yet been conditioned and you think. Sometimes the truth has some rough edges.

diogenes on January 30, 2013 at 7:19 PM

I feel bad for Giffords – she’s going to be a Democrat Barbie Doll for the rest of her life. Taken out and used for opportunistic photo ops, then pet her on the head and escort her from the room.

But – Loughner had been stalking Giffords for sometime and she was aware of it.

2nd Ammendment Mother on January 30, 2013 at 7:23 PM

Durbin – prime example: Garbage in/Garbage out.

GarandFan on January 30, 2013 at 7:26 PM

Does it make me a horrible person for being that cynical?

nextgen_repub on January 30, 2013 at 6:55 PM

No. Pragmatic.

kim roy on January 30, 2013 at 7:29 PM

… whatever he was doing in 2011. Ignoring the economy. Whatever.

Focused like a laser…

24/7…

First thing in the morning…

Last thing at night…

Evidently, the little peckerwood can’t hold two seperate thoughts in that brilliant brain.

Solaratov on January 30, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Dick Durbin, just exactly would an assault weapons and large ammo magazine ban work, especially in Mark Kelly’s home state of Texas or his wife’s home of Arizona, WHEN THE BORDER IS WIDE OPEN?

Resist We Much

Durbin is one of the Amnesty 8. He’s gonna shut that border down with the new amnesty bill.

xblade on January 30, 2013 at 7:34 PM

Does it make me a horrible person for being that cynical?

nextgen_repub on January 30, 2013 at 6:55 PM

No, nextgen, you were already a horrible person for simply reading HA. But hey, I and all the other racist, homophobic, children – killing, crypto-facists are glad to have you here with us.

questionmark on January 30, 2013 at 7:34 PM

I feel bad for Giffords – she’s going to be a Democrat Barbie Doll for the rest of her life. Taken out and used for opportunistic photo ops, then pet her on the head and escort her from the room.

But – Loughner had been stalking Giffords for sometime and she was aware of it.

2nd Ammendment Mother on January 30, 2013 at 7:23 PM

Why? She has the ability to say “no” at any time.

If she were so concerned, she’d be working on dealing with the mentally ill because they’re the issue, not the tool they choose at any given moment.

She had absolutely no problem with pandering by having a photo op holding a gun.

kim roy on January 30, 2013 at 7:37 PM

This ticks me off no end. Using Giffords s a prop and to further his political career. Then they come up with a new more intrusive solution to fix the problem they caused with the gun free zones they created. Giffords is the only incident not in a gun free zone, but she was hasting a gathering of democrats, so the odds of someone in the crowd being armed was pretty low.

AZfederalist on January 30, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Yeah,
We could have done something perhaps about mental health back then and avoided the incidents since.

Oh wait…that’s not about guns….ah…

ProfShadow on January 30, 2013 at 7:42 PM


Durbin Compares U.S. Troops to Nazi’s, Soviets, & Pol Pot .

Seven Percent Solution on January 30, 2013 at 7:43 PM

Who gives a rat’s azz what Mark Kelly thinks, he wrote a book blasting the Tea Party, blaming them for the shooting of his wife and he’s been on countless talk shows making the same claim.

JPeterman on January 30, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Yep, exactly.

I agree… they’re grooming him to eventually occupy Gabby’s old seat in DC.

The fact that he posed for the cameras after her speech sickened me. Rather than allowing her to have her moment – her time – he quickly moved his head into frame, so that he’d be included in the post-testimony photos.

Hill60 on January 30, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Seems like he’s wanting to be the male version of Sarah Brady with an eventual congressional seat.

PatriotGal2257 on January 30, 2013 at 7:43 PM

I disagree… Mark Kelly is using his wife for political reasons… Shameful…

sandee on January 30, 2013 at 6:54 PM

Sad to say, I agree with you. It’s despicable what Mark Kelly is doing; he certainly seems to be using his wife as a political pawn.

His wife being a victim rightfully garners him sympathy, but in no way makes him any more of an expert on the 2nd amendment, nor on the civil rights of his fellow Americans.

He constantly claims to be a strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment, and boasts of owning hunting rifles. But his pleas only sound like someone who claims to have many gay friends after being accused of being a homophobe.

dugan on January 30, 2013 at 7:44 PM

JPeterman on January 30, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Exactly…

sandee on January 30, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Kelly and Giffords were on the verge of a divorce, until he saw a way to play the “long-sacrificing, loving husband” role.
His ‘career’ as an astronaut was at an end – and all of a sudden, he sees a way to make a bundle with a book, gain a bit of fame…and possibly go into congress as a ‘second’ career.

Oh, yeah! He’s an admirable (/s/) character.

Solaratov on January 30, 2013 at 7:54 PM

She had absolutely no problem with pandering by having a photo op holding a gun.

kim roy on January 30, 2013 at 7:37 PM

Before redistricting, we were in her district. Two things contributed to her winning so many terms (well three, many of the republicans here are indistinguishable from democrats c.f. John McCain):

1) She was a very sweet personality, as in sticky sweet. Very personable, the kind with an endearing smile that mesmerizes while hiding the knife she was going to put in your back.

2) She ran as pro second amendment, hence the photo op. Those of us with functioning brain cells knew she was lying — she was a reporterette on one of the local news stations before running for office and had demonstrated a leftward bias. Now the mask is off. … and no, that’s not being unfair because of what happened to her changing her opinion. Reagan was shot and he didn’t change his principles. She has just reverted to her core.

AZfederalist on January 30, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Kelly is nothing more than a useful idiot for the Democrats.

rplat on January 30, 2013 at 8:04 PM

I agree… they’re grooming him to eventually occupy Gabby’s old seat in DC.

The fact that he posed for the cameras after her speech sickened me. Rather than allowing her to have her moment – her time – he quickly moved his head into frame, so that he’d be included in the post-testimony photos.

Hill60 on January 30, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Seems like he’s wanting to be the male version of Sarah Brady with an eventual congressional seat.

PatriotGal2257 on January 30, 2013 at 7:43 PM

There are reports of them moving back to AZ. Look for a run for McCain’s seat.

AZfederalist on January 30, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Die Dick Durbin!

KOOLAID2 on January 30, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Just because he has a degree in aeronautical engineering, I don’t automatically assume he’s smart. I’ve known plenty of people who were very able in particular fields, but couldn’t think their way out of a wet paper bag when it comes to life on a broader scale.

If he was smart more broadly (or remotely humanly decent), he wouldn’t be participating in this fascism-fest.

WhatSlushfund on January 30, 2013 at 8:23 PM

But then that would have blown up the Dear Liar’s claim to be a supporter of the 2nd amendment, and he wouldn’t have been able to get some gun owners to vote for him.

Galt2009 on January 30, 2013 at 8:25 PM

AZfed- 3.) She sucked up the retired vet vote in Green valley by playing on vet benefits too.

Look, I’m sorry she got shot. I live here. I go to that Safeway. It’s beyond close to home. But it’s sick to parade her out like this.

I need my gun to protect myself from loughners. Taking my gun isn’t going to take his.

Sad part is, that bastard will outlive me, on my dime.

wolly4321 on January 30, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Oracle & Ina.

wolly4321 on January 30, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Before redistricting, we were in her district. Two things contributed to her winning so many terms (well three, many of the republicans here are indistinguishable from democrats c.f. John McCain):

1) She was a very sweet personality, as in sticky sweet. Very personable, the kind with an endearing smile that mesmerizes while hiding the knife she was going to put in your back.

2) She ran as pro second amendment, hence the photo op. Those of us with functioning brain cells knew she was lying — she was a reporterette on one of the local news stations before running for office and had demonstrated a leftward bias. Now the mask is off. … and no, that’s not being unfair because of what happened to her changing her opinion. Reagan was shot and he didn’t change his principles. She has just reverted to her core.

AZfederalist on January 30, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Thanks for this – it’s great to hear from people who are actually in the areas these posts discuss. :)

kim roy on January 30, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Can we all stop saying Dick? Sounds obscene to me. ;-)

tommy71 on January 30, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Dickie Douchebag does it again…

Moose Drool on January 30, 2013 at 9:11 PM

Durbin is one of the Amnesty 8. He’s gonna shut that border down with the new amnesty bill.

xblade on January 30, 2013 at 7:34 PM

You forgot the sarc tag. :-)

Resist We Much on January 30, 2013 at 9:40 PM

That’s all Senator Dumbdumb is about — words, that is.

polarglen on January 30, 2013 at 9:42 PM

Since President Obama took office, federal gun prosecutions have decreased by about 45% from the Bush administration, going from about 11,000 weapons cases to 6,000.

So, obviously, we need MORE GUN CONTROL LAWS for Obama NOT TO ENFORCE!

Lib logic, it’s a special thang!

Resist We Much on January 30, 2013 at 10:33 PM

Go straight to hell you fking lunatic, Durbin.

tom daschle concerned on January 30, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Let us also note that it was an open secret at NASA Houston that Mr. Kelly got his final assignment to command what was at the time the final Shuttle flight (Congress added another later) after Mrs. Giffords threw her support behind the misguided Constellation Program. He’ll probably try to run for Congress as a D from Houston, and will probably be bought off by the aerospace-defense contractors who like cost-plus contracts – no different from both parties who represent NASA Centers.

What I’ve learned being inside the government for 10 years: it’s only corruption if it’s important enough to make the news or a U.S. Attorney wants to do something about it.

321mdl on January 30, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Can we all stop saying Dick? Sounds obscene to me. ;-)

tommy71 on January 30, 2013 at 9:02 PM

.
Nonsense. That’s absolutely reDICKulous.

listens2glenn on January 31, 2013 at 2:50 AM

They had to keep the story low-key immediately after the shooting because of WHO THE SHOOTER WAS.

A hardcore commie, who was upset that Giffords wasn’t liberal enough.

Am I the only one who remembers this?

listens2glenn on January 31, 2013 at 2:54 AM

I saw some of her testimony, and the only thing I could think was “and she kept her office for how many months in a worse condition than that?” Then I was ashamed. Then I realized that it was a sad situation, but a person needs to do their job, and if you can’t do your job, then it is time for you to go. So I wasn’t ashamed and was awesome instead.

cptacek on January 31, 2013 at 11:08 AM

Several things:
This issue is going to be kept alive for a LONG TIME people. It is a daily issue on NPR and the rest of the LSPM (lying single party media) and now they’ve split their gun grabbing scheme into a TRIAD of effots. 1) revive the AWB. 2) go after magazine capacity TBD AND ‘Uniform Background Check’ (read) REGISTRATION of ALL PRIVATELY OWNED FIREARMS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
AND 3) Raise the public liablity issue buy forcing EVERY gun owner to get an insurance policy (rider) for EACH and EVERY firearm they own.

And … Mark Kelly LIED … the fellow who was armed at Safeway shopping center was buying cigaretts (obvious scum in the eyes of the media) ran to the confusion where an older fellow had Laughner pined to the ground and the guy (sorry I forgot his name) with the gun KEPT IT IN HIS POCKET … not knowing who to put his front sight on.
Kelly claimed in his congressional testimony that this fellow ‘Almost shot the wrong person.’

To this story I say: Bull-Shiite!

This whole episode WAS avoidable. At this ‘Meet and Greet’ event that Gifford’s held, there wasn’t a Sheriff’s Deputy within MILES of the shopping center when the shots ran out.
Why didn’t the protective Capt. Kelly have any PERSONAL PROTECTION arranged for his WIFE during ANY of these events? There were over TEN of her STAFF there at the event. And NO BODY observed this crazy MF with a Glock 19 with an EXTENDED magazine standing in line?

Missilengr on January 31, 2013 at 11:09 AM

Kinldy pardon my typos from my post.

Missilengr on January 31, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Digital dyslexia is bad this AM

Missilengr on January 31, 2013 at 11:14 AM

Final observation:
When Slo-Joe Biden left the Senate SOMEONE had to take his position as the STUPIDEST member.
That slot was filled by DICK ‘Turban’ Durbin.
However, it may be a toss up between him and Nancy.

Missilengr on January 31, 2013 at 11:19 AM