Deal near between Holder, House on Fast & Furious contempt charges?

posted at 10:01 am on January 30, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

The Obama administration’s intransigence on recess appointments gave the judiciary an opportunity to finally rule on the practice — and the White House lost a huge legal battle that would effectively handcuff Barack Obama to the Senate for the next four years on appointments. I’m not too surprised to see that they may not want to take chances again, this time on the reach of Congressional contempt charges:

A deal may be near in the Operation-Fast-and-Furious-related dispute that led the House of Representatives to cite Attorney General Eric Holder for contempt last year.

U.S. District Court Judge Amy Jackson was set to hold a key hearing next week in the lawsuit the House filed seeking to enforce its subpoena for records of how the Justice Department responded to Congressional inquiries about the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives gunrunning investigation that may have resulted in as many as 2000 weapons flowing to Mexican drug cartels.

However, both the Justice Department and the House asked Jackson Tuesday to put the scheduled hearing off for more than two months as the two sides try to work out a deal that could obviate the need for the lawsuit.

The judge postponed the next hearing until April 24th.  That seems like a long time — almost a full month longer than requested — but the scope of the subpoena is extensive.  If the Department of Justice wants to start cooperating with the House, they will probably need to negotiate on a document-by-document basis.  That will take quite a while before the House can determine whether Holder is serious about transparency or taking them for a slightly longer ride.

Just as with the recess-appointment lawsuit, though, both sides risk losing long-term status in a lawsuit.  Previous subpoena disputes have almost all been settled before judicial precedent could be set.  That allows both sides to argue the virtues of their positions in the political realm, which is what the judiciary traditionally prefers.  If both sides push this dispute past a district court into the appellate level, the decision will set firm precedent on the powers and protection of the other two branches of government vis-a-vis the other — with the potential outcome of disaster for one or the other, a disaster that could last centuries.  As it stands, this is almost the political equivalent of Mutually Assured Destruction.

Obama didn’t learn that lesson, and now he has allowed the precedent in the DC Circuit (where the federal government operates in a legal sense as well as an actual sense) that limits recess appointments to only vacancies that first occur during formal intersession Congressional recesses, which all but eliminates recess appointments at all.  That precedent stands until the Supreme Court overturns it.  It looks like the White House has belatedly found the wisdom of keeping those kinds of questions away from the judicial branch, especially when it comes to subpoenas.


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0 got his comeuppance again :-)

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 10:04 AM

When is the Regime going to come clean on Obama’s Guns for Gangsters Operation?

Galt2009 on January 30, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Slow going but it shall be done!

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Any deal that doesn’t involve a prison term for Holder and impeachment or retirement for Obama is a sham.

Archivarix on January 30, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Any deal that doesn’t involve a prison term for Holder and impeachment or retirement for Obama is a sham.

My thoughs too

Rich on January 30, 2013 at 10:06 AM

The administration gave weapons to mass murderers and yet we are supposed to believe they actually care about gun violence.

WisCon on January 30, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Galt2009 on January 30, 2013 at 10:05 AM

2 or 3 more months…

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Archivarix on January 30, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Totally! Now we just gotta wait…

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 10:08 AM

A deal? They ran guns and hundreds of people are dead. A deal.

Bishop on January 30, 2013 at 10:08 AM

Took them 4 years to learn this. Anyhows, its good.

tommy71 on January 30, 2013 at 10:08 AM

Brian Terry unavailable for comment.

hillsoftx on January 30, 2013 at 10:08 AM

My prediction. After this filthy rat-eared dictator finally gets thrown out of office. Future Chief Executives will be kept on a much shorter chain. Congress only has themselves to blame in essentially giving the bastard free reign for so long.

Happy Nomad on January 30, 2013 at 10:09 AM

They kicked the can past Election Day. To Team Obama, that’s the key point.

jon1979 on January 30, 2013 at 10:10 AM

So deal means a plea bargain for Holder and Obama to go to the Big House, right? Oh wait, this is the GOP….nevermind. More golf.

search4truth on January 30, 2013 at 10:11 AM

OT Debate on “gun violence” to start on C-SPAN!

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 10:11 AM

… House can determine whether Holder is serious about transparency or taking them for a slightly longer ride.

Four years of Holder/Obama and the House has to determine if they’re being taken for a ride?

*snicker*

LetsBfrank on January 30, 2013 at 10:11 AM

************** ALERT ***************

ON NOW LIVE

Live video: Senate Judiciary Committee hears testimony on gun control; Gabrielle Giffords expected to speak – @NBCNews

2 mins ago from http://www.breakingnews.com by editor

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/senate-judiciary-committee-hearing-on-gun-violence-jan-30-2013

canopfor on January 30, 2013 at 10:13 AM

No deal. Prosecute him.

kingsjester on January 30, 2013 at 10:14 AM

It looks like the White House has belatedly found the wisdom of keeping those kinds of questions away from the judicial branch,

Nah. They’re not that smart. Barry and Eric are just stalling some more.

GarandFan on January 30, 2013 at 10:14 AM

canopfor on January 30, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Good Morning!!

I knew you would be along to provide a linky!!

How goes it?

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 10:15 AM

Can we spell AMM-NESS-TEE children?

TimBuk3 on January 30, 2013 at 10:16 AM

America’s heart was broken when 20 children and 6 adults were shot.

No mention of the hundreds killed in Chitown… :-(

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Political Expediency…It’s what’s for Breakfast!

workingclass artist on January 30, 2013 at 10:17 AM

**Alert **

Senate Committee Investigates Solutions for Gun Violence

C-SPAN
******

http://www.c-span.org/Events/Senate-Committee-Investigates-Solutions-for-Gun-Violence/10737437674-1/

canopfor on January 30, 2013 at 10:18 AM

Ed, Allah!

How about an open thread for the gun debate?

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 10:18 AM

So, this make a deal, deal going down in D.C. on the assesory before the fact (Brian Terry killed by a gun run on the direction of Holder/Obama/Clinton) where a bunch of Mexican drug runners, one of which was a paid informant of the D.E.A. kills Border Patrol special operator Brian Terry.

They make a deal?

If it was one of U.S. running guns, drugs, and an officer of the law was killed by the guns one of U.S. ran, do you think any one from the F.B.I., D.E.A., Justice Dept. would be considering a plea bargin or any deal.

Now, given this, why would we the people even consider allowing this crime family in Washington D.C. to do any “immigration reform” before the prove to U.S. that the dam borders, east, west, south, north, air, sea are secure????

Once more.

Its a sorry ass con.

We are the marks.

For sure Brian Terry got the mark deal.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on January 30, 2013 at 10:20 AM

“A deal has been reached” translates to BOHICA to the conservative base.

Mr. Arrogant on January 30, 2013 at 10:21 AM

canopfor on January 30, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Good Morning!!

I knew you would be along to provide a linky!!

How goes it?

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 10:15 AM

Scrumpy:Good Morning Scrump,..Excellent,20 tabs open,so far so good:)

canopfor on January 30, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Live video: Senate Judiciary Committee hears testimony on gun control; Gabrielle Giffords expected to speak –

canopfor on January 30, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Dog and pony show. Democrats demagoguing. Talk about dancing on the graves … All for cheap political gain trying to solve a problem they created by doing more of what caused the problem in the first place. Absolutely disgusting. I’m sure Feinswein is right in the thick of it.

AZfederalist on January 30, 2013 at 10:22 AM

I’m not sure the President has figured out just how much he screwed up recess appointments for future Presidents, the fact is he has and perhaps it’s got him thinking that Laurence Tribe doesn’t know everything.

bflat879 on January 30, 2013 at 10:23 AM

a disaster that could last centuries.

In your wildest dreams. On the current trajectory this country will be lucky to last another 50 years.

chemman on January 30, 2013 at 10:24 AM

It’s nearly 10:30 Eastern Time and no Marco Rubio thread yet. WTF?

bw222 on January 30, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Eric Holder never reads emails from his top employees…he knew nothing. Neither does Hillary.

d1carter on January 30, 2013 at 10:25 AM

bflat879 on January 30, 2013 at 10:23 AM

That assumes Jugears is capable of learning from past mistakes. Narcissists seldom do, failures are always somebody else’s fault.

AZfederalist on January 30, 2013 at 10:25 AM

No deal. Prosecute him.

kingsjester on January 30, 2013 at 10:14 AM

I don’t believe one will be made – I think Holder will not give the House everything they want, and will end up losing in court.

Anti-Control on January 30, 2013 at 10:26 AM

canopfor on January 30, 2013 at 10:18 AM

ROFLOL. Investigate and senate are two words that should never be used together.

chemman on January 30, 2013 at 10:27 AM

bflat879 on January 30, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Could it possibly have been intentional?

Given that the dems have severely criticised Bush for having so many recess appts, lawfully I might add, perhaps 0 thought that in the future he could make darn sure no Republican would ever do as he did…

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 10:27 AM

“Its called internabional gun running crime” unless its done by some made man from the two party evil money cult in Washington D.C..

APACHEWHOKNOWS on January 30, 2013 at 10:28 AM

bw222 on January 30, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Check the Headlines, there is one there :-)

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 10:29 AM

OT: Grassley making good valid points!!

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Holder and Barry just need more time to shout: “what difference does it make?”

GreatCommunicator on January 30, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Holder,,”Well they are just minor street drug selling operations” not head chopping, dead people in 55 gal drums, people burned alive wrapped in old car tires, terrorist.”

oh, what, there are news reports and photos of it

uh….

“photo shopped””’

APACHEWHOKNOWS on January 30, 2013 at 10:33 AM

If the Department of Justice wants to start cooperating with the House, they will probably need to negotiate on a document-by-document basis. That will take quite a while before the House can determine whether Holder is serious about transparency or taking them for a slightly longer ride.

It wont take long at all if the House does it correctly. Their default position should be that every document is required unless the DoJ can provide a valid reason why it shouldn’t be. The burden should be on them to identify specific documents and provide a reason not to include each one. And assertions that a document is irrelevant, unneeded or too burdensome to provide are not valid reasons. If the House sticks to that position, we will find out very quickly if Holder wants to resolve this or is just trying to run out the clock.

RadClown on January 30, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Results for #guncontrol

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23guncontrol

canopfor on January 30, 2013 at 10:36 AM

OT: Mark Kelly talking about mental health issues on gun debate…

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 10:37 AM

RadClown on January 30, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Lest we forget 0 gave Holder and the DofJ executive priviledge, to block papers…

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Ogimmee is running a criminal enterprise from the halls of the DOJ. What a great cover.

Kissmygrits on January 30, 2013 at 10:42 AM

However, both the Justice Department and the House asked Jackson Tuesday to put the scheduled hearing off for more than two months as the two sides try to work out a deal that could obviate the need for the lawsuit.

In other words, the fix is finally in and Holder and Obama are fully protected from any culpability.

SWalker on January 30, 2013 at 10:42 AM

I’m sure Feinswein is right in the thick of it.

AZfederalist on January 30, 2013 at 10:22 AM

The only place Feinswein should be right in the thick of, is a Federal Prison cell right next to Randy “Duke” Cunningham.

SWalker on January 30, 2013 at 10:46 AM

SWalker on January 30, 2013 at 10:42 AM

Excellent!!

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Does this Mean Judicial Watch’s FOIA can go through the legal system now?

What becomes of the DOJ’s request for a motion to stay on the FOIA request?

Correct me if I am wrong, but the DOJ was attempting to delay the FOIA request pending the outcome of the House’s challenge. Now that they are delaying the House’s request, as predicted, then can Judicial Watch’s case now move forward?

weaselyone on January 30, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Any “deal” that doesn’t put this criminal behind bars in a federal prison isn’t enough.

tpitman on January 30, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Any deal that doesn’t involve a prison term for Holder and impeachment or retirement for Obama is a sham.

Archivarix on January 30, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Reagan said “Here’s my strategy on the Cold War: We win; they lose”. I could live with that attitude in this case. In fact, in damn near every case. Looking at you, Boner…

bofh on January 30, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Anyone remember Judge John Sirica of the Watergate hearings fame?

ss396 on January 30, 2013 at 10:58 AM

OT: Wayne LaPierre speaking

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 10:59 AM

ss396 on January 30, 2013 at 10:58 AM

What did he do?

I wasn’t here during that time :-)

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 11:00 AM

I have no idea, but I do know that you guys come up with really cool names for your fake scandals.

crr6 on July 10, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Del Dolemonte on January 30, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Del Dolemonte on January 30, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Lol!! Good Morning!

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 11:01 AM

RadClown on January 30, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Lest we forget 0 gave Holder and the DofJ executive priviledge, to block papers…

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Which IMO wont hold water in court and would backfire. Executive privilege doesn’t extend outside of the White House, and BHO would have to explain the extent to which DoJ’s actions involve him. That’s the last thing he wants to do.

I’m not an expert and could be dead wrong, but I think the WH is scared to death of putting this in front of a judge.

RadClown on January 30, 2013 at 11:05 AM

It wont take long at all if the House does it correctly. Their default position should be that every document is required unless the DoJ can provide a valid reason why it shouldn’t be. The burden should be on them to identify specific documents and provide a reason not to include each one. And assertions that a document is irrelevant, unneeded or too burdensome to provide are not valid reasons. If the House sticks to that position, we will find out very quickly if Holder wants to resolve this or is just trying to run out the clock.

RadClown on January 30, 2013 at 10:36 AM

I say that there is no way Holder is going to give them what they are demanding, and that the only way the House will cave is if they believe there’s a good chance they’ll end up losing in court.

Precedent says they will not lose, and I believe Holder realizes this, too – he is kicking the can down the road as long as he can, which can’t be much longer because the end of the road is in view.

Anti-Control on January 30, 2013 at 11:06 AM

RadClown on January 30, 2013 at 11:05 AM

me either, no expert, having to wait another 2 or 3 months to hear a result, really sucks.

As SW showed on his blog here:

In other words, the fix is finally in and Holder and Obama are fully protected from any culpability.

SWalker on January 30, 2013 at 10:42 AM

The fix is already in perpetrated by Boehner…

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 11:09 AM

My 11.11 comment is the link to SW’s Info!

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 11:12 AM

Ohhhhh just figured out how to do that ;-)

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Uh oh TOTAL FAILURE!!!!

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 11:12 AM

I’m not an expert and could be dead wrong, but I think the WH is scared to death of putting this in front of a judge.

I doubt this admin fears a judge. I’m confident they have the names of those whose lives and careers will be sacrificed if need be.

hawkeye54 on January 30, 2013 at 11:17 AM

OT: DiFi now speaking on gun control…

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 11:24 AM

I’m not an expert and could be dead wrong, but I think the WH is scared to death of putting this in front of a judge.

I doubt this admin fears a judge. I’m confident they have the names of those whose lives and careers will be sacrificed if need be.

hawkeye54 on January 30, 2013 at 11:17 AM

Exactly. The only thing that might scare them would be a big enough change in the House and Senate in 2014 to allow a GOP majority to invoke Impeachment hearings and a Impeachment trial.

SWalker on January 30, 2013 at 11:25 AM

She is speaking about “slide fire” holding up a magazine…

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 11:25 AM

I doubt this admin fears a judge. I’m confident they have the names of those whose lives and careers will be sacrificed if need be.

hawkeye54 on January 30, 2013 at 11:17 AM

So how do you explain 0dumba’s adminstration already having lost numerous unanimous decisions either in appeals courts or at the USSC? Is it your opinion that all of the sudden the tide will completely turn now?

They have to know that the chances are very good that is another loser for them.

Anti-Control on January 30, 2013 at 11:26 AM

…to allow a GOP majority to invoke Impeachment hearings and a Impeachment trial.

SWalker on January 30, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Sorry SW, but I think it’s a ‘dream’ to think that the GOP would actually start Impeachment hearings…

There would indeed need to be major shake-ups within the party.

2014 would be very telling…

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Anti-Control on January 30, 2013 at 11:26 AM

0 will just shrug off any court rulings as he has been shown to do.

He defys the court and NOTHING is done about it!

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 11:31 AM

On second thoughts, his time is running short, the courts will catch up to him and his defiance…

I will be glued to the TV the day that happens!!

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 11:36 AM

The administration gave weapons to mass murderers and yet we are supposed to believe they actually care about gun violence.

WisCon on January 30, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Yeah, but it’s OK when they do it. Just like it’s OK for Homeland Security to have 7000 M4s for ‘personal protection’ but if one of us has one it becomes an ‘assault weapon’.

ghostwalker1 on January 30, 2013 at 11:44 AM

If both sides push this dispute past a district court into the appellate level, the decision will set firm precedent on the powers and protection of the other two branches of government vis-a-vis the other — with the potential outcome of disaster for one or the other, a disaster that could last centuries. As it stands, this is almost the political equivalent of Mutually Assured Destruction.

ZOMG!

fossten on January 30, 2013 at 11:46 AM

^^^Melodramatic much, Ed? Don’t pull all the skin off your hands with all that wringing.

fossten on January 30, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Sorry SW, but I think it’s a ‘dream’ to think that the GOP would actually start Impeachment hearings…

There would indeed need to be major shake-ups within the party.

Not just major shake ups, but overwhelming majorities in House and Senate, and courage and confidence enough to ignore the LSM and wrongheaded public opinion and outcry to do what is right.

Never will happen, I think.

hawkeye54 on January 30, 2013 at 11:48 AM

hawkeye54 on January 30, 2013 at 11:48 AM

I have to have faith in the american public in general, to wake the heck up!

I think once the seriousness of 0′s considerable avoidances become well known, it could turn the tides for us!

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Holder will exclaim “What difference does it make!!!” and all will be forgiven. Nothing to see here. Please drive through.

mojojojo on January 30, 2013 at 12:03 PM

1. This administration, the one attempting to strip law-abiding citizens of their Constitutional 2nd Amendment Rigts & thus their weapons, had no problem with providing Mexican Drug cartels with THOUSANDS of automatic weapons & handgrenades, have no problem with the 300+ & counting body count they are responsible for from Fast & Furious, & have no problem with the CONTINUED COVER-UP!

2. This administration CONTINUES to demonstrate its pattern of cover-ups & anything BUT ‘transparency’, even to the point of administration personnel perpetrating CRIMES – as in Holder’s 3 FELONY counts of PERJURY before Congress…& they continue to do so because they are being allowed to get away with it – NO SIGNIFICANT PUNISHMENT AT ALL TO ANYONE!

3. HOW MANY OF US ‘REAL AMERICANS’ WOULD BE ALLOWED TO ‘NEGOTIATE’ IN REGARDS TO OUR PERPETRATION OF 3 FELONY COUNTS OF PERJURY BEFORE CONGRESS? Holder committed 3 CRIMES; however, he faced no criminal charges because his hand-picked Justice Department REFUSED TO OBEY/ENFORCE THE LAW by charging him with those crimes, leaving Congress with doing the only thing they could do on their own – issue an official CENSURE. Holder is the 1st Attorney General in U.S. history ever to be Censured by Congress (for a CRIME that this admiistration would not prosecute)! How many of YOU think you would be protected in such a way by the U.S. Justice department?

Refusing to enforce the law is a *trademark of this Justice Department — They stepped in to DROP CHARGES against the New Black Panthers for perpetrating Voter Intimidation by brandishing weapons at voting locations during the 2008 elections. Pointing out that Obama bragged about their endorsement in 2008 and displayed a link to their web page in 2008…until the media reported it…is significant. Then there was the ‘whistleblower’ inside the Justice Department who proved the Justice department under Holder REFUSED to prosecute descirimination cases when it involved minority-on-white cases. FINALLY, there is the case reported of how Obama directed Holder & the Justice Department to carry out a policy regarding Illegal Immigration where much fewer/no crimes involving Illegals where the crime fell below the level of a FELONY should be prosecuted – no arrests/holding/charging/prosecuting! THIS was a case of a President CREATING a ‘Right’ that American Citizens do not even have!

These acts & the on-going ‘negotiations’ of Holder’s crimes rather than enforcing the law & holding him accountability continue to highlight how badly our government has broken down & how much this President is acting as a Chavez-esque ‘tyrant’ believing he is above the Constitution/Law. …and the GOP continue to go along with it, showing no sign of ‘testicular fortitude’ or desire to do what is right / to adhere to their oaths of office which was to protect & defend the Constituion & enforce the rule of law. Instead, according to this story, its more like ‘Throw out the Constitution/Law & LET’S MAKE A DEAL….’

easyt65 on January 30, 2013 at 12:11 PM

I have to have faith in the american public in general, to wake the heck up!
Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Awww…lol. I remember when I was that naive’, too…. (wasn’t THAT long ago…)

easyt65 on January 30, 2013 at 12:12 PM

0 will just shrug off any court rulings as he has been shown to do.

He defys the court and NOTHING is done about it!

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 11:31 AM

1) you are acting like 0dumba is some unflappable, unstoppable juggernaut, and the evidence doesn’t support that; 2) his supposed non-adherence to court decisions is unrelated to whether the House will cave, whether he’ll win his executive privilege claim, or whether there will be any serious repercussions against him if he loses and refuses to hand over the documents.

Let’s revisit this topic in few months, and discuss how Holder and 0dumba are looking then, ok? :)

Anti-Control on January 30, 2013 at 12:13 PM

easyt65 on January 30, 2013 at 12:12 PM

I know I am and have admitted to being niave… :-)

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Anti-Control on January 30, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Pray tell which court ruling has he thus far obeyed?

His most recent ‘thumbing at the court’ is over the NLRB…

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 12:22 PM

HOLDER=JAIL!

TX-96 on January 30, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Gotta go…

Later HA’ers!

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Any deal that doesn’t involve a prison term for Holder and impeachment or retirement for Obama is a sham.

Archivarix on January 30, 2013 at 10:05 AM

No, it’s merely more GOP complicity, disguised as compromise.

Don L on January 30, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Ruby Ridge, Waco TX., Fast and Furious, Brian Terry, Benghazi Libya.
Connect the dots. What is common to all. Innocent people died by the hundreds. Each was a botched gun running operation by the biggest illegal gun dealer in the world. The Federal Government.

Ruby Ridge, just a man and his family that wanted to be left alone.
Waco Tx., A group of people exercising their Constitution freedom of religion, wanted to be left alone.
Fast and Furious, An illegal gun running operated by the Federal Government for the benefit of ????
Brian Terry, A good man just trying to do a job.
Benghazi Libya, A covert gun running operation for the middle East that went bad because two men from the CIA disobey orders to stand down and let the gun deal go forward.

This may finale get some closure if only because there may be too much on Obama’s plate and this needs to go away one way or another. The handwriting MAYBE on the wall saying that the administration has restraints.

We can only wait and hope.

jpcpt03 on January 30, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Pray tell which court ruling has he thus far obeyed?

His most recent ‘thumbing at the court’ is over the NLRB…

Scrumpy on January 30, 2013 at 12:22 PM

I think a better question is, how many rulings has he defied? I am aware he did that during the Gulf oil spill – which other times do you know of? It’s not like he has pretended any of the SC decisions he lost don’t apply to him, is it? About the NLRB ruling – has he been ordered by the appeals court to honor the decision immediately, before the appeals process is finished?

Don’t get me wrong – I know what he is capable of. My point is that I believe it is premature of so many people to act like we are as bad off as Venezuela, and that he is already as powerful as Hugo Chavez – if 0dumba really felt so free and unchallengable, I don’t believe we would even be talking about Holder negotiating with the House over Fast and Furious.

Anti-Control on January 30, 2013 at 8:09 PM

A Deal? A DEAL?! What the heck?! Holder ignores and basically flips off the House for a year, and House stops the judge from hearing the case?! What is wrong with GOP? My response would have been: “You’ve had over a year to cooperate, Holder. See you in Court, jerk!” Two of our border agents are dead! There is no room for deal making when law-breaking and murder are involved. Obama and Holder belong under the jail!!!

Conservative Independent on January 30, 2013 at 9:38 PM