Why do you want people to lose their jobs?

libfreeordie on January 30, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Dems haven’t cared about people working for the last four years, child molester.

The GOP is literally saying “screw the economy” by refusing to budge on sequester. The data is clear from Western Europe. Austerity retracts economies it does not grow them. The public sector is simply too deeply enmeshed. Why do you want people to lose their jobs?

libfreeordie on January 30, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Amazing how much power the GOP has isn’t it. The left has the Senate, the WH, the media, the schools …. and yet the GOP is controlling everything. Funny how everything used to be controlled by Bush – everything was and still his fault. But Obama is strangely powerless.

You ma’am, are an idiot.

Monkeytoe on January 31, 2013 at 7:55 AM

I concur.

You keep using that word, but I do not think it means what you think it means.

Resist We Much on January 30, 2013 at 5:02 PM

The ‘It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia’ references are awesome.

sentinelrules on January 30, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Unless you’re being sarcastic/ironic (I can’t tell), this quote goes waaaaaay back before Philly. It’s from The Princess Bride, one of the most quotable movies ever made.

Someone recently got busted on an airplane for wearing a shirt quoting Inigo Montoya:

Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.

I have that t-shirt.

I wondering if the GDP number adjusts for inflation and population growth. If it doesn’t then the real number is around -4.

VorDaj on January 30, 2013 at 9:05 PM

It’s real, not nominal, so all adjustments are already made.

The GOP is literally saying “screw the economy” by refusing to budge on sequester. The data is clear from Western Europe. Austerity retracts economies it does not grow them. The public sector is simply too deeply enmeshed. Why do you want people to lose their jobs?

libfreeordie on January 30, 2013 at 4:19 PM

You ma’am, are an idiot.

We never said it would be easy
Would have been much worse under republican policies
We just have to do the right thing
We want a bi-partisan solution
The tea-party is causing economic uncertainty
Rush is blocking action by his own party
When Affordable healthcare kicks in, we’ll see a boost
Immigrants will finally start paying taxes and contributing

TouchdownBuddha

libfreeordie

You reprobate coward imbeciles couldn’t formulate a retort after all this time?

Worthless sequestering of carbon the both of you.

Why can’t you conservatives grasp the very simple concepts laid out in TouchdownBuddha’s point. The GOP is literally saying “screw the economy” by refusing to budge on sequester. The data is clear from Western Europe. Austerity retracts economies it does not grow them. The public sector is simply too deeply enmeshed. Why do you want people to lose their jobs?

libfreeordie on January 30, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Get over your fantasy that government spending increases productivity. It doesn’t. Some spending, such as for the military and police, is necessary to prevent criminals from decreasing productivity, but all labor and resources pulled from the economy by the government can only produce less under the government’s command than they would have in private hands. The more government spends, the worse the economy gets. When governments are finally forced to pull back, there can be some nominal loss of recorded productivity as the wasted resources are finally accounted for, but the economy itself improved.
The only way that government deficit spending can make even a marginal (and temporary) contribution to the economy is if it is able to pull in investment from outside of its boarders that otherwise would not have been brought in — and that is at the expense of future expansion.

Googling “expense deduction”.

rogerb on January 30, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Thought this summed it up nicely. ; )

PolAgnostic on January 30, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Yeah. That’s pretty much what I meant by the markets going totally screwy before that point. It would be an external event that would bring it to a head and the exact point when it would happen would be unknowable.

I have family and close ffriends that have their investments and retirements tied up in IRAs and such. You can’t talk to them about this. They’re mostly lefties and they just freak out.

It’s sad, but I have to take a lot of crap from them because I don’t invest in the markets.

Why can’t you conservatives grasp the very simple concepts laid out in TouchdownBuddha’s point. The GOP is literally saying “screw the economy” by refusing to budge on sequester. The data is clear from Western Europe. Austerity retracts economies it does not grow them. The public sector is simply too deeply enmeshed. Why do you want people to lose their jobs?

libfreeordie on January 30, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Lemme explain this in terms you will understand.

When you EBT card is maxed out you can’t buy booze, cigarettes and lottery tickets, ok? The government’s EBT card is maxxed out.

So next month they need to cut back on the booze and smokes. Gee after all, they only have the money they steal from those of us that work. Not that you would know anything about that.

So, basically, if I have this right, by September 2015 the fed (or their agents) will have bought up all the shares available to be traded?

trigon on January 30, 2013 at 6:17 PM

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No, it’s FAR worse.

Every week, week after week, fewer and fewer shares are being traded.

This makes “goosing” the Dow up very easy but it also means the markets are less and less credible as investments because eventually there will be NO ONE willing to BUY the shares that are held.

How much are those shares worth at that point?

ZERO, zip , nada

“Right now, our economy is growing…”

- President Barack Obama, 14 January 2013

“You see that economic growth? I BUILT THAT!”

- President Barack Obama

“The Commerce Department said Wednesday that the economy contracted at an annual rate of 0.1 percent in the fourth quarter. That’s a sharp slowdown from the 3.1 percent growth rate in the July-September quarter. The surprise contraction could raise fears about the economy’s ability to handle tax increases that took effect in January and looming spending cuts.”

- Associated Press, 30 January 2013

“You see that economic contraction? REPUBLICANS BUILT THAT!”

- President Barack Obama

Why can’t you conservatives grasp the very simple concepts laid out in TouchdownBuddha’s point. The GOP is literally saying “screw the economy” by refusing to budge on sequester. The data is clear from Western Europe. Austerity retracts economies it does not grow them. The public sector is simply too deeply enmeshed. Why do you want people to lose their jobs?

libfreeordie on January 30, 2013 at 4:19 PM

You don’t have the money.

Market volume is collapsing in spite of the QE “fix”. Take the “fix” away and you have the true picture.

On the current trendline, trading volumes go to ZERO by September of 2015, so everything should be perfect by then, right?

PolAgnostic on January 30, 2013 at 5:52 PM

So, basically, if I have this right, by September 2015 the fed (or their agents) will have bought up all the shares available to be traded?

….that’s exactly what Obama is doing over here and it should be right up your alley and in line line with your ideology…why complaining then?

jimver on January 30, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Because he knows a thousand times less about markets and economies than he does with respect to the English language???